V8 Solenoid Engine

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  • Running V8 solenoid engine I made from recycled materials. Look inside the engine as it is running! See more solenoid engines on my channel page. SUBSCRIBE for future videos.
    Engine description below.
    Technical details:
    Type: 90 degree V8 electric piston engine with cross plane crankshaft
    Maximum RPM: 1,000 RPM
    Input voltage: 15 volts dc
    Speed controller: Mechanical PWM using eccentric rotating contacts.
    Cylinder bore diameter: 13mm
    Piston stroke length: 25.4mm (1 inch)
    Total theoretical displacement: 27cc
    Firing order: 1, 8, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 2 (MOPAR)
    Main bearing size: 4x9x4 mm (684zz)
    Big end bearing size: N/A (plain)
    Flywheel mass: 500g
    Switching relays: 12 volt 30 amp
    Solenoid model: home made
    Total mass of engine: 4kg approximately
    Exhaust emissions: zero
    More information:
    A solenoid engine uses the magnetic pull of solenoids to turn a crankshaft, and resembles the architecture of an internal combustion engine. The crankshaft on this engine was built using Meccano discs, 4mm brass rod and various m4 nuts and bolts, and is counterweighted to balance the rotational and reciprocating mass. The engine uses Meccano timing chain and sprockets, and was originally designed as a four stroke but later converted to two stroke. The engine can still run as a four stroke, simply by swapping the timing gear to a 2:1 ratio and re timing the camshaft. This engine does not develop much torque, certainly much less torque than a standard rotary electric motor can produce, for the equivalent power input - for this reason the solenoid engine is just a novelty and an educational model.
    I built this engine for fun, from mainly scrap metal and wood, and using mostly hand tools, and a cordless electric drill, during summer and autumn of 2012.
    Links:
    You can watch stages of the V8 engine build here: • V8 Solenoid Engine Bui...
    Be sure to subscribe to my channel for future new engine videos.
    Check out some of the other engines I have built if you like -
    My first solenoid engine #1: • Single Solenoid Engine #1
    Single solenoid engine #2: • Single Solenoid Engine #2
    Fast single solenoid engine #3: • FAST Solenoid Engine W...
    Steam engine style solenoid engine: • Electric Steam Engine ...
    V12 solenoid engine - 24 volts: • V12 Solenoid Engine
    V12 solenoid engine - 35 volts: • V12 Solenoid Engine Ov...
    Thanks for watching.

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  • @VinnyMartello
    @VinnyMartello Před 10 lety +16

    An electromagnetic V8. Now I've seen it all. Great work!

    • @VinnyMartello
      @VinnyMartello Před 7 měsíci

      @@scottcrawford7674 It's a great question. But this adds a lot of moving parts that a regular DC motor wouldn't otherwise have. In a daily driver situation you would most likely see reduced efficiently. It's entirely possible to make it work. But it would not be practical.

  • @MichaelTheRead
    @MichaelTheRead Před 4 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite facts about life is that no matter what it's made out of, a V8 will always sound badass if you can get its parts spinning fast and steadily enough.

  • @melton7142
    @melton7142 Před 9 lety +33

    People always have critism this is not about efficiency. It's about challenge and imagination. Show something that you have done instead, The theory in your head amounts to nothing until it is put into action.

    • @name4102
      @name4102 Před 2 lety

      It's efficiency engine ... Would you like to cooperate with me to cut all the friction inside the engine ... Looking forward to hearing from you .

  • @golferchin76
    @golferchin76 Před 10 lety +2

    Seriously man, if I was an elementary school kid and see this in a science fair I would have been blown away by the awesomeness !
    Even as an adult this puts a smile on my face, great work.

  • @produKtNZ
    @produKtNZ Před 10 lety +26

    I quite love your ingenius method for controlling the engine speed via contacts on a cam shaft. A very elegantly simple solution :)

    • @HuntosDee
      @HuntosDee Před 10 lety +2

      I noticed that too but my knowledge of mechanics isn't great so I don't fully understand it. Would you mind explaining how this works when you have the spare time?

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety +9

      David Hunt Above the camshaft you will see eight copper wire prongs, when these prongs receive electric current from the camshaft, the relevant solenoid switches on. Moving the copper prongs closer to the camshaft results in a longer duration of electrical contact, and therefore a longer magnetic pulse from each solenoid, and of course more RPM. I have a couple of single cylinder engines on my channel that use this principle if you want to see in more detail. I hope this helps.

    • @HuntosDee
      @HuntosDee Před 10 lety +2

      Wow, that's genius! You explained exactly the part I didn't understand. Thanks!

  • @ggnutsc
    @ggnutsc Před 10 lety +7

    That is pretty cool!!! The cam operated firing for the solenoids is very similar to the older diesel engines with mechanical injection timing. You could use an encoder on the crankshaft to detect crankshaft position and a computer control to electronically fire the solenoids and it would be similar the newer style engine controls. Obviously without the valve train. Two thumbs up from a great build!!!

  • @murilovsilva
    @murilovsilva Před 10 lety +123

    I would buy an electric car if its engine was like this one.

    • @pokrec
      @pokrec Před 4 lety +10

      Such an engine would consume much more energy than normal electrical engine.
      Piston engines in case of internal combustion are necessity if we have to maximize the efficiency in automotive applications, but in case of electric motors, the rotary types are almost perfect and have primitive construction in comparison with solenoid / piston engines. If you lack the sound of V8 engine, you can always get come audio system to emit this sound for you via car stereo system.
      The more primitively constructed engine - the less maintenance and lower the price of purchase and later service.
      This is a nice toy, but I have never heard of anyone, who used a solenoid engine to any serious work (of, course, there are linear engines, but used in a very specific application, where the linera motion is expected and there is no need to convert the reciprocal motion to rotary motion. Such a conversion is always troublesome.

    • @murilovsilva
      @murilovsilva Před 4 lety +14

      pokrec It was a joke. But thanks for the info!

    • @popinmo
      @popinmo Před 4 lety +11

      @@murilovsilva 6 year repley Nice

    • @jakobsmith5915
      @jakobsmith5915 Před 3 lety +2

      @pokrec isn’t there potential to have a dual type engine, in which a solenoid system and Internal combustion are used on a cylinder essentially increasing the pistons velocity???

    • @goldenretriever6440
      @goldenretriever6440 Před 3 lety +3

      @@pokrec
      What if it ran on a solid state battery
      I hear solid state batteries charge within minutes like filling up a gasoline engine
      Personally I think if it charges that quickly who cares about range

  • @quadrunner2124
    @quadrunner2124 Před 8 lety

    One part of me thinks this thing is a beautiful work of art, and I'm thankful to see it. The other realizes that the builder obviously has the resources to utilize his time for something truly useful. Balance is key to a good life.

  • @ashadowawhisper
    @ashadowawhisper Před 8 lety +4

    The sound reminds me of being inside the cockpit of a Cessna 172 and taxiing out to the runway.... nothing like taxiing on a warm Georgia morning with the windows open and getting the strong breeze from the prop...

  • @curtchase3730
    @curtchase3730 Před 10 lety +1

    You could win the slowest idling engine competition! Very clever.

  • @barzaka18
    @barzaka18 Před 8 lety +239

    it souds like diesel engine :D

  • @xlifegiverx
    @xlifegiverx Před 10 lety

    I love cars. I love working on cars. Cars and anything engine driven are basically my life.

  • @davidblalock9945
    @davidblalock9945 Před 10 lety +6

    I built and am patenting a hybrid version of this type of engine. I call it a hybrid because when It runs on electricity the solenoids also function as air compressor; when acting as an expansion motor they also act as a linear alternator.
    The end result is a system that very efficiently switches back in forth between running on air and electricity while still providing mechanical work to power the car.

  • @AsymptoteInverse
    @AsymptoteInverse Před 8 lety

    I've watched a lot of videos of model V8's, and it surprises me how, whether they're powered by combustion, compressed air, or electricity, they *still* sound a lot like big V8s.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 8 lety

      I guess it just goes to show that the basic sound of an engine is related to its internal geometry. One engine that gets me is the Yamaha R1 2009 onwards crossplane inline four, that sounds so much like the traditional v8.

  • @irelandbloke
    @irelandbloke Před 10 lety +98

    Fantastic !. Even sounds like a proper V8 :)

  • @speeddemon4484
    @speeddemon4484 Před 10 lety

    It doesn't take much to make a V8 sound, but it takes real talent to make an electric V8 out of spare parts

  • @davidrobert2007
    @davidrobert2007  Před 11 lety +7

    Ah, I thought so - It runs on straight 15v dc but when it's running the action of the cam lobes hitting the copper prongs provides pulses of current to switch the solenoids, the closer I move the prongs to the camshaft the longer the duty cycle, so it is effectively mechanical pwm, although the duty cycle cannot exceed 50% as the solenoids can only pull and not push. Hope this helps and thanks for your interest :)

    • @cmwehrmann1
      @cmwehrmann1 Před 4 lety

      Would making it a boxer style engine help with the duty cycle?

  • @victorrodas4357
    @victorrodas4357 Před 8 lety

    Your experiments contribute to make the tech education more affordable in times when the superior educational system is ripping off our students. I made two 3D printers, one prosthetic hand and two 3D printed drones (including a DJI Inspire clone) all that information including .stl files where gathered by me from Open Sources around the world. I don't
    even have an electronics degree. I wish there were more people like you.

  • @smithraymond09029
    @smithraymond09029 Před 10 lety +29

    It reminds me of the sound created when you put a piece of cardboard into the path of a rotating ceiling fan.

    • @HORIZON8026
      @HORIZON8026 Před 10 lety +1

      Shakespear Meerkat soda cans in between the wheel and frame for me discovered it by running a can over and getting it stuck on a tire

    • @MF11283
      @MF11283 Před 10 lety +2

      HORIZON8026 destroying a baseball card that is now probably worth a small fortune was my preferred method

    • @spdwebdotnet
      @spdwebdotnet Před 10 lety

      HORIZON8026 lol I second this.. a nice metallic two stroke sound if you get it right. ahh memories.

  • @Dinosorable
    @Dinosorable Před 10 lety

    I'm glad to see that even electric motors can sound badass as long as they have cylinders.

  • @bertjohnson6509
    @bertjohnson6509 Před 9 lety +16

    That has to be one of the most damn cool contraptions I ever seen! I am an electronics eng. tech... I have true appreciation. Kudos brother :)

  • @davidrobert2007
    @davidrobert2007  Před 11 lety +5

    If I remember the engine consumes a maximum of about 60 watts. Each solenoid pulls about 2 amps static on 15 volts dc.

  • @mspenrice
    @mspenrice Před 10 lety +22

    In an alternate timeline, where we invented neither internal combustion nor rotor-based electric motors...

  • @OwlexMyth
    @OwlexMyth Před 10 lety

    It's such a trip to see that configuration moving at such low speeds. Reminds me of trains of old.

  • @riparianlife97701
    @riparianlife97701 Před 10 lety +25

    Love it! Too bad all that reciprocating mass is so inefficient. Better to go with a nice, brushless motor.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety +12

      Ah but the purpose of this motor is purely to resemble an internal combustion engine, rather than to efficiently convert electric current into kinetic energy. Cheers

    • @riparianlife97701
      @riparianlife97701 Před 10 lety +4

      davidrobert2007 I completely understand the purpose, and I marvel at how well it was done. I'm simply pointing out that any engine with reciprocating mass is inefficient. I enjoyed the video.

    • @tomp016
      @tomp016 Před 10 lety +1

      Docktor Jim they say that rotary car engines were supposed to be efficienct al they are efficient at is drinking petrol and giving you a measily pathetic 30mpg while my old renault gives me 50mpg sometimes conventional methods cannot be beaten i look forwards to hearing of the russian vane engine if it does actually make production and become an efficient engine :P

    • @riparianlife97701
      @riparianlife97701 Před 10 lety +1

      Tom Peters Yeah. The only advantage to the rotary was that a deaf, drunk driver couldn't over-rev them. Total crap otherwise.

    • @gabrielhoward9002
      @gabrielhoward9002 Před 10 lety +2

      Docktor Jim
      Thanks for the "education" anyone watching this video obviously has mechanical interests and is well aware of the fact that reciprocating mass can be inefficient. (Though it does have advantages in terms of stored energy (why trucks have heavy flywheels)
      You comment would be along the same lines as someone watching a hydrodynamics video and proclaiming water to be wet.
      Best regards.

  • @JoshuaSmith-rn7zh
    @JoshuaSmith-rn7zh Před 10 lety

    Imagine this being in production and actually working with like an aluminum block and such. That's pretty astonishing.

  • @problmch1ld
    @problmch1ld Před 10 lety +29

    sounds like a damn cesna

  • @jeffersondodson
    @jeffersondodson Před 9 lety +4

    Love the fact this guy has this much time on his hands!!

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 9 lety +1

      Well that's good to know, Jeff.

    • @Blaze0357
      @Blaze0357 Před 9 lety +1

      davidrobert2007 X)) Now you can sleep at night! Cool stuff Dave, thanks.

    • @embrj1453
      @embrj1453 Před 9 lety

      Jeff Dodson Time and Knowhow...more the latter

    • @cmmguy99
      @cmmguy99 Před 9 lety +3

      Jeff Dodson Some people do productive things with their time instead of passive activities

    • @BigEsGarage
      @BigEsGarage Před 9 lety

      +Jeff Dodson I would agree. I think it's great to see somebody using there free time to build something.

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph Před 9 lety +96

    This is how classic piston powered cars will be kept running after Gasoline is is outlawed (Hah!)

    • @TheHassleFreeZone
      @TheHassleFreeZone Před 9 lety +43

      DocWolph Until someone eventually invents the electric motor....

    • @DocWolph
      @DocWolph Před 9 lety +19

      Bob Firth
      Oops! Yeah... Well, I was thinking more along the lines of not ditching the transmission and most of the mechanicals besides.

    • @aelitadelarobia
      @aelitadelarobia Před 9 lety +1

      DocWolph good thought perhaps, though somehow i doubt gasoline will ever be outright outlawed... probably phased out, but there will probably be grandfather clauses, such as those that apply to antique vehicles today exempting them from certain emissions laws etc..., who knows :)

    • @hosgoth
      @hosgoth Před 9 lety +3

      aelitadelarobia
      Like all the futuristic movies. "This runs on gasoline, you know gasoline explodes."

    • @aelitadelarobia
      @aelitadelarobia Před 9 lety +1

      josh cooper i-robot, right?

  • @thesantiso
    @thesantiso Před 11 lety

    Amazing, that size, solenoid and still sounds like a V8. Nothing beats that sound dude

  • @ian-c.01
    @ian-c.01 Před 10 lety +4

    This made me smile today, I love it !
    I would think efficiency would be pretty low but for a bit of fun it's fantastic !
    I was wondering why I couldn't see sparks jumping out of it but then I noticed all the electrolytic capacitors inside, great job man !

  • @knobovsossidge2022
    @knobovsossidge2022 Před 9 lety

    Bloody brilliant. You can hear the V8 rhythm.
    Well done for getting it running so smoothly.

  • @rickmurray7123
    @rickmurray7123 Před 9 lety +5

    It could be made to push and pull both on each piston with another set of switches. Electronic switching would allow unlimited speeds except for induction limitation in the coils, but that can be reduced by good design. Think fuel injector solenoids and computer controls.

    • @billydarley6925
      @billydarley6925 Před 9 lety

      Rick Murray spark plug solenoids.

    • @NismOzzy
      @NismOzzy Před 9 lety

      +jo schmo (stepsider4life) spark plugs don't have solenoids, they have coils. Fuel injectors have solenoids.

    • @billydarley6925
      @billydarley6925 Před 9 lety

      NismOzzy
      ya thats what i meant, thanks :)

    • @anwitmondal6417
      @anwitmondal6417 Před 5 lety

      Pushing is possible only if the plunger is made of magnets and not iron. Neodymium magnets are ideal.

  • @clayboi6939
    @clayboi6939 Před 10 lety +2

    This is the coolest thing I have ever seen in my entire life..

  • @RobThePlumber
    @RobThePlumber Před 10 lety +24

    You have great skills. Beautiful work.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety

      Thanks :)

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety +3

      *****
      It doesn't come anywhere close to a regular electric motor in terms of performance or efficiency and so it is just a novelty, for fun :) Thanks for your comment.

    • @DigitalNoomad
      @DigitalNoomad Před 10 lety

      davidrobert2007 How much would you value one of these in cash?

  • @davidrobert2007
    @davidrobert2007  Před 11 lety +1

    Yes a diode in a relay circuit can also be used to deal with back emf, it's known as a snubber, the resistor and capacitor do a similar job, it's called an "rc snubber". This engine has both diode snubbers and rc snubbers.

    • @jamieeast4974
      @jamieeast4974 Před 3 lety

      just send back emf into next cycle cylinder !

  • @Migueldeservantes
    @Migueldeservantes Před 10 lety +21

    Love it, have you consider to check what is the power consumption VS the hp and torke??

  • @westmc45
    @westmc45 Před 9 lety

    perfect example of why we don't need gasoline, be nice to see a larger version running in a small car with solar power running the solenoids or something I like this its really cool

  • @buckylaine
    @buckylaine Před 10 lety +5

    That would be an awesome way to make an electric muscle car and still have the nostalgia of a V8. Might loose the muscle but it would be something different for a show car.

    • @michaelramsey82
      @michaelramsey82 Před 6 lety +1

      You could easily have as much torque and power as the original V8 - just feed it more power, and use thicker wire in the coils to handle the current.

  • @dazmatic
    @dazmatic Před 9 lety

    This has to be quite possibly the one of the coolest things I've ever seen

  • @flyurway
    @flyurway Před 9 lety +3

    Pretty cool...VERY innovative! I don't suppose it's the most efficient way to convert electrical energy to mechanical - then maybe I could be in for a surprise - but it IS very cool!

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 9 lety +14

      It is badly inefficient but what it lacks in efficiency it makes up for with cool.

    • @punkinhaidmartin
      @punkinhaidmartin Před 9 lety

      davidrobert2007
      Dude, that thing would be grea for a kids toy tractor.
      That sound is perfect.
      Would it help the efficiency if your coils had a neodymium magnet to pull on?

    • @flyurway
      @flyurway Před 9 lety +1

      I would think since it's technically a 1 stroke engine it should develop decent torque. When considering efficiency, doesn't that have a considerable effect on the equation? In response to Mark's comment, I would think it would be simple to develop a control chip that would allow a variation of this just for the use in toys too. I don't know, seems there's a practical use for this somewhere.

    • @punkinhaidmartin
      @punkinhaidmartin Před 9 lety

      Andork Kuomo it would be interesting to see what a radial kind of merlin version would do.

    • @bertjohnson6509
      @bertjohnson6509 Před 9 lety +2

      As inefficient as it would be, wouldn't you think it would have a ton of low end torque vs a regular electric motor? Also what about different gear ratios?

  • @chuckbear1961
    @chuckbear1961 Před 9 lety +1

    Since there is one power pulse per revolution per cylinder its like a 2 cycle gas engine.
    Great work on this "Mechanical art form"

  • @jackrichards1863
    @jackrichards1863 Před 10 lety +3

    maybe I should not say it? but, I think you may be a bit Genius whoever built this solenoid engine/motor . Impressive speed control ability. what torque is available and the power consumption to achieve that is the foremost question that formed with myself. Well done.

  • @davidrobert2007
    @davidrobert2007  Před 11 lety

    The copper camshaft is energised full time and when a prong touches a cam lobe it switches a relay which then switches a solenoid. The closer the prongs are to the camshaft the longer the duration of electrical contact per revolution. Each solenoid has its own relay, prong and cam lobe. Hope this helps.

  • @davidrobert2007
    @davidrobert2007  Před 11 lety +3

    Thanks :) it runs on 15v dc

  • @chrisking4186
    @chrisking4186 Před 9 lety +1

    Sounds like a radial. Awesome project!

  • @ztwntyn8
    @ztwntyn8 Před 9 lety +36

    so it works opposite of internal combustion right? as in, the pistons are pulled up instead of pushed down.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 9 lety +21

      You are correct the pistons are pulled in by magnetism.

    • @akashbansal8564
      @akashbansal8564 Před 9 lety +2

      Does the induction motor produce more power for same amount of torque?

    • @DeltaDestiny
      @DeltaDestiny Před 9 lety

      +ztwntyn8 No. some "Internal combustion engines" are "pulled up" as well, take the Flame Gulping engine for example.

    • @ztwntyn8
      @ztwntyn8 Před 9 lety

      yes, good point. I have seen those.

    • @ghostxop2101
      @ghostxop2101 Před 7 lety +1

      To activate the driving force on the up stroke would be incredibly inefficient.

  • @jiggermast
    @jiggermast Před 9 lety

    It never ceases to amaze me the kind of incredible stuff people are building out there in the real world!
    I once watched a short film about a very famous UK engineering works and the presenter made a big thing of condescendingly pointing out..."Look, not a tobacco tin full of old rubbishy nuts and bolts in sight!" when in fact a great many innovations in engineering history were first designed and put together in small workshops by very clever people like this!
    Well done my friend, it's a credit to your skills!

  • @valdemar_gomes
    @valdemar_gomes Před 11 lety +5

    Very, Very, Very GOOD!

  • @proaerro
    @proaerro Před 8 lety

    i read basically all the comments i dont see any that are really as high priority as the questions;
    How much wattage(Y) is being used to give how much torque (X) = Z
    What is the weight of the engine/motor relative to Z
    vs an engine of the same weight.
    Well id guess that a typcal motor half the size could easily out power it, But im willing to bet a normal AC or DC motor would consume Much more power per hp/torque, I have a feeling these style of motors could prove much more efficient.
    The fact that you threw this together and made a WORKING prototype is amazing man!

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 8 lety

      Hi, I haven't measured the power consumption, but it is fair to say that a standard dc rotary motor is way more efficient than a solenoid engine, simply because of the increased friction and limitations of reciprocating parts, as you say. The v8 here is more of a novelty, I built it for fun, but you never know, one day someone might come along and find a way to make it feasible. I'm sure every Prius owner would want this.

  • @TheSupervincent
    @TheSupervincent Před 9 lety +5

    holy shit... din't know this kind of engine existed. lol nice job

  • @Northaxe
    @Northaxe Před 9 lety +1

    WoW! that would be great electric engine for cars!

  • @TheRaptor1967
    @TheRaptor1967 Před 10 lety +3

    Nice work.
    You have some serious engineering talent there!
    I was wondering (and I'm sure others are) if you did any power output comparisons with a reasonably efficient electric motor?
    While I dont expect it to be anywhere near as efficient, its novelty value alone is excellent! Well done. :)

  • @franksgarageandcustoms8321

    Nice. As said a piece of art. I cant imagine the time spent building this,or even the time thinking about it. Beautiful workmanship and attention to detail. My hat's off to you.pure genius.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 9 lety

      Thanks Frank. It took me eight months to build, off and on. I did a v12 as well, have you seen that?

  • @MrLiamHenderson
    @MrLiamHenderson Před 10 lety +18

    I love it. I suspect it is rather inefficient tho :P

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety +25

      It is very inefficient, like all good v8s. Cheers.

    • @MrLiamHenderson
      @MrLiamHenderson Před 10 lety

      davidrobert2007
      hehe :)Have you ever considered using PWM to adjust the timing? I think you'd be able to RPMs sky high.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety +4

      Brick Top
      Well it already uses kind of a mechanical pwm but I agree fully electronic pwm would offer higher rpm, but that would show up just how unbalanced the crankshaft is.

    • @MrLiamHenderson
      @MrLiamHenderson Před 10 lety +3

      davidrobert2007
      Yes, true. And it would actually detract from what a fine machine you've built. I like the fact it has mechanical timing like a proper motor.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety

      Brick Top Hey thanks :)

  • @Zoidberg227
    @Zoidberg227 Před 11 lety

    Finally, something for those of us who want an electric vehicle but also want a reciprocating engine!
    How cool would a hot rod using a solenoid engine be?

  • @UraniumMan
    @UraniumMan Před 7 lety +4

    Very cool. I remember pondering of this possibility many years ago, and the person I was talking to said it couldn't be done. I am pleased to see someone has proven them wrong! I am curious if you have since placed a load on it. Would be fun to make a go-cart or something with it. I wonder if regenerative braking would be possible.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 7 lety +4

      Hi, these engines produce very little torque, I haven't placed this one under load, but I did build a v12 variant and have a video of that running a small generator, if that may be of interest to you? Regenerative braking would be possible but fairly pointless, as these engines are extremely inefficient when compared to a conventional rotary electric motor. Thanks for commenting.

    • @itzdragonlover1800
      @itzdragonlover1800 Před 2 lety

      Se podría usar en un vehículo con un motor eléctrico e impulsado x un start de un vehículo convencional

  • @parasar_the_destroyer
    @parasar_the_destroyer Před 7 lety

    and for few saying this as not a engine its a motor, then they dont know what an engine is, its really a great engine.

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan Před 9 lety +5

    That's very cool. Someone should make a step by step video on how to make that at home because I would totally make that.

  • @andomotohisa7092
    @andomotohisa7092 Před 10 lety +1

    I now feel peaceful.
    Production technology of you is amazing.
    穏やかな気持ちになりました。
    貴方の制作技術は凄いです。

  • @Zanehoward88
    @Zanehoward88 Před 10 lety +4

    Coolest thing ive seen on youtube!!!

  • @vernjackson1509
    @vernjackson1509 Před 9 lety

    A great Art Piece. maybe not the most pratical engine but shows someone
    using thier Brain.
    Shows that there are a million ways to power the Pony.
    great work.

  • @nitishk9
    @nitishk9 Před 10 lety +3

    Something I've been thinking of since a long long time, can this be actually made life size and be fitted into a real motor-vehicle? Obviously it will need a lubricating system and a cooling system.

    • @michaelramsey82
      @michaelramsey82 Před 6 lety

      Theoretically it could, but it would be much less efficient than just using a normal rotary electric motor, like electric cars do.

  • @fp2282
    @fp2282 Před 10 lety

    That is truly elegant in its simplicity. Let's see what it can do!!

  • @Capturing-Memories
    @Capturing-Memories Před 8 lety +6

    Although it is very inefficient compared to a real electric motor this reminds me how inefficient combustion engines are !!

    • @ashscott6068
      @ashscott6068 Před 8 lety +2

      Still a better way to power a car, though. And that doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon.

    • @goldenretriever6440
      @goldenretriever6440 Před 8 lety +1

      It be cool if they some how figured out how to connect it to an alternator so it could charge its batteries some how
      But I'm just an idiot making stupid CZcams comments what do I know??????

    • @kreynolds1123
      @kreynolds1123 Před 7 lety

      You could, but your not going to charge the batteries when you'll loose more power than is generated.

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben Před 9 lety

    I do not have the skills or know how to do this, but I told my brother a few years ago that I would love to find a way to take the top off a v-8 gas engine, and make it run on solenoids, because then the battery would be recharged by the alternator, and it would become a very cheap electric car. But I always thought it would need a way to cool the solenoids and a heavier flywheel to keep the inertia going. You are showing me that not all my ideas are just pipe dreams. :-) thank you.

    • @LunaticCharade
      @LunaticCharade Před 9 lety

      +Gristle Von Raben So you would take the top off, and run it with solenoids instead of gas? You do know that that would be less efficient than just using an ordinary electric motor, because the way you describe would break the laws of physics! You cannot create energy from nothing, that would be a perpetual motion machine

    • @gristlevonraben
      @gristlevonraben Před 9 lety

      Petter olofsson
      the energy comes from the battery, the battery is recharged from the alternator. It is still relying upon the battery and parts. Basically I see a solenoid engine as just being another type of electric motor.

    • @LunaticCharade
      @LunaticCharade Před 9 lety

      +Gristle Von Raben yes, and thats exactly why it (sadly) won't work. What will happen is that the motor(or rather a good electric one) and the generator will have an efficiency around 97% maybe, each. so you lose ~6% power going battery->motor->generator->battery, and this is only driving the generator by a motor of similar power. with a smaller generator, and driving the car with the motor aswell you get smaller losses, but still no gains, so the most efficient is not to have any generator. if you could build a car like you want to, you would get a nobel prize and have proven one of the laws of physics to be false.

    • @gristlevonraben
      @gristlevonraben Před 9 lety +1

      Petter olofsson
      On old tractors, and a few old cars, they came with a generator that would turn on once the engine was running. Then I think the losses would be a lot less. Some electric cars are made so that when you are going down hill the car engine acts as a generator and recharges the batteries. I once asked a mechanic why they stopped using generators and switched to alternators. He said it was to use the battery more so that they could sell more batteries. When I was a kid, I thought it plausible. Later, as the years have gone by, I've seen car batteries that used to last for ten years suddenly become less efficient, and now they rarely last five years. The same process was created in Edison light bulbs. There are Edison light bulbs that are still being lit after over 100 years of use. Check out the Livermore Centennial Light bulb. I once saw a documentary on the lightbulb and economy, and if I remember correctly, they made light bulbs to burn out faster so that they could keep making money from the sales. While this is a crappy way to treat people, it is business, and it does keep jobs for people, and sales up. Car mechanics have complained for years that they were becoming harder and harder to work on so that you would have to take them to a dealer, but I suspect that they no longer engineer cars to be worked on, but simply to be dumped in favor of the customer buying a new one. I suspect, that long ago, that guy was right about generators, and even worse, I suspect there are lots of ways to make magnetic perpetual motion machines, we just don't hear about them. I do have one in mind, that requires only three magnets. If you would ever like to hear about it.

    • @jerrymaulden9805
      @jerrymaulden9805 Před 9 lety

      +Gristle Von Raben Everyone taps into a common pool of knowlege... Kinda like muscle memory... Like they say like minds think alike..

  • @Elite69Halo
    @Elite69Halo Před 10 lety +8

    Sounds like a Jetta hahah

  • @noahoscarson3006
    @noahoscarson3006 Před 9 lety

    2 things 1 you can put the can on the crank, 2 you can rebuild the celnoids, put a magnet in them and turn it into a single stroke,make them push and pull,,but very cool

  • @chirola20100
    @chirola20100 Před 10 lety +3

    REALMENTE EXELENTE TRABAJO , MUY MUY BUENO

  • @ZXXpilot
    @ZXXpilot Před 9 lety

    Now if this was in a Prius, I'D buy one in a heartbeat!!!

  • @alexfot4407
    @alexfot4407 Před 10 lety +3

    This is absolutely cool.

  • @michal_king478
    @michal_king478 Před 4 lety

    fitting something like this inside an rc car would be cool as hell

  • @raymondvanorsoydeflines9904

    Brilliant

  • @davidrobert2007
    @davidrobert2007  Před 11 lety

    Yes, they are capacitors, they each have a series resistor and their purpose is to help absorb the back emf (high voltage spikes) coming from the solenoid coils. Without them you get arcing across the relay contacts.

  • @robertbrockway6580
    @robertbrockway6580 Před 10 lety +7

    great job.

    • @caitgems1
      @caitgems1 Před 10 lety

      Very very nice! You always seem to post video`s that interest me :o)

    • @robertbrockway6580
      @robertbrockway6580 Před 10 lety

      caitgems1
      Similar interest. I love mechanical things and electricity.

    • @caitgems1
      @caitgems1 Před 10 lety

      Robert Brockway Me to, and anything that flies...

    • @robertbrockway6580
      @robertbrockway6580 Před 10 lety

      caitgems1
      I forgot about flying.

    • @caitgems1
      @caitgems1 Před 10 lety

      Robert Brockway How could you forget the most important one, lol

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd Před 9 lety +1

    I love that it even sounds like a pushrod v8

  • @The2012SRC
    @The2012SRC Před 10 lety +3

    can i get a book on how to build this?

  • @washawtaw1
    @washawtaw1 Před 9 lety

    Electro Magnetic Pulse Assisted Internal Combustion Engine: EMPAICE This could be made into a beautiful fuel efficient engine. Electro Magnetic pulse available on demand to assist the traditional piston engine. This could be used to provide 77% of the torque required to operate the engine. The battery would be charged for free during the operation cycle. I see a Nobel prize here.

  • @AngelArm1110
    @AngelArm1110 Před 9 lety +6

    as cool as this is, it makes me wonder why we don't just use AC motors and be done with it

    • @MrPollyBlitzKrieg
      @MrPollyBlitzKrieg Před 9 lety +2

      Robert Johnson because of the batteries.

    • @TheSmileyFacedPizza
      @TheSmileyFacedPizza Před 9 lety +6

      MrPollyBlitzKrieg What about the batteries? Any mobile motor requires batteries. Or at least solar panels.

    • @MrPollyBlitzKrieg
      @MrPollyBlitzKrieg Před 9 lety +1

      ya, I just don't want to drive to work and than wonder if I have enough power to get back home. And do you really save any money with an electric vehicle? Sure you don't have to buy gas any more but what is your electric bill going to be now that you have to plug your car in every night?

    • @TheSmileyFacedPizza
      @TheSmileyFacedPizza Před 9 lety +3

      MrPollyBlitzKrieg Electricity is far cheaper than gasoline per megajoule of potential energy, and motors do a much better job turning that potential energy into kinetic energy, which makes the price difference even bigger. If you drive 30+ miles to work and 30+ miles back, then mod your car to hold more batteries. It's pretty easy to do, and it would be reversible and discreet if you're smart about it. Or use a hybrid so you can use gasoline when you need the extra range.

    • @TheSmileyFacedPizza
      @TheSmileyFacedPizza Před 9 lety

      MLFreese That's an extremely good point; I hadn't thought of that before. You just talked me out of converting my car into a hybrid. Thank you for saving me a few thousand dollars.

  • @Maxum97SeaDoo91
    @Maxum97SeaDoo91 Před 11 lety

    Now that is a fine piece of craftsmanship! American ingenuity at it's best!

  • @hktech5649
    @hktech5649 Před 9 lety +3

    now wide open throttle so we can see it THROW A ROD

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 8 lety

      You would love that wouldn't you? czcams.com/video/S02jzVNOJI0/video.html who needs rods?

  • @ChuddleBuggy
    @ChuddleBuggy Před 10 lety

    Nice. Looks like a tandem 4 with a crossplane crankshaft. Sounds much like a 4-cyl diesel engine.

  • @user-pp5jr2rf4b
    @user-pp5jr2rf4b Před 10 lety +4

    даже звучит как v8

    • @user-zy7pi6hr1t
      @user-zy7pi6hr1t Před 10 lety

      а по большому счету - нет разницы, что толкает поршня: давление газов или магнит. Звук-то, я так думаю, в бОльшей степени механическими характеристиками определяется...

  • @n4120p
    @n4120p Před 9 lety

    Great work , The relays reaction time is the speed limiting factor here rather than the solenoids, you will have to advance the switching timing to compensate, also the further out the rods had to be sucked in and this is the crank stroke design the more wasted current in heat in the solenoids , coils are unhappy with the core partially far away, lenz law ,,,
    congratulations once again ernest B.

  • @HDFoxra
    @HDFoxra Před 9 lety +3

    Probably already been said/asked but.... what exactly is 'powering' that 'engine'?? cause... if i remember correctly, for something to be an engine comparable to that of a gasoline/diesel engine... it has to be supplying its own power to achieve movement.. If this is really just feeding electricity into the solenoids via a battery or something, then it isn't really an engine but just an ordinary motor.

    • @joehastings1
      @joehastings1 Před 9 lety +10

      OMG are you serious

    • @HDFoxra
      @HDFoxra Před 9 lety +1

      Yes. This essentially is just an 'electric motor'. not an 'engine' of any type. It resembles an engine yes, but mechanically/technologically, its just an electric motor. nothing 'engine' about it in the general, everyday sense/meaning of the word.
      don't get me wrong, its a really nice motor and looks really cool, and alot of intricate stuff is involved with it. I was just merely curious if it supplied its own source of power for continued operation like a typical combustible engine does, or if it is simply ran off of a battery.
      Having it 'start' by a battery, then sustaining itself by turning the mechanical energy back into electricity via a generator of sorts, would make this much more interesting and 'cool' to present to people. Then you could just have a capacitor or two set up to store the electricity produced from the mechanical actions, and use that stored electricity to continue operating the solenoids. I dont mean as a perpetual machine or anything, just that it'd make for a fun challenge to attempt.

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 9 lety +9

      The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word "engine" as: "A machine with moving parts that converts power into motion"

    • @ionbg7
      @ionbg7 Před 9 lety +3

      Hikari Internal combustion engines do not supply their own power the fuel they burn does. Engine means engineous device which converts some form of power into motion. In this case reciprocating motion to rotational inertia.

    • @duviday
      @duviday Před 9 lety

      Please explain the difference between engine and motor?

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite Před 9 lety

    Those look like lawn sprinkler solenoids.
    Very cool!

  • @MrBrukmann
    @MrBrukmann Před 10 lety

    Nice work David! I sincerely hope you use eye protection around your contraptions. This advice can't be repeated enough. :)
    PSA: As a tinkerer for life, I can say two things: 1) I have saved my eyes from severe damage twice or more. 2) I definitely have microscopic metal in my eye from when I didn't use safety goggles. I would have to get them checked before getting an MRI.

  • @davidlisney2059
    @davidlisney2059 Před 10 lety

    Although opto couplers and a bank of FETs would be an easier way to do the commutation this is cool being entirely electro mechanical, great project. A workmate made a "3 cylinder" version using trafficator solenoids from old turn signals.

  • @robbysteele
    @robbysteele Před 10 lety

    cant get much greener than that..well done

  • @flipr7
    @flipr7 Před 11 lety

    Sounds like an old prop plane. Very cool.

  • @iaagg
    @iaagg Před 9 lety +1

    Your engines are like art. No they are art.

  • @santosj2274
    @santosj2274 Před 3 lety

    Efficiency: left chat
    Practicality: left group
    Amazement&Excitement: hello boys!

  • @jimmym2719
    @jimmym2719 Před 2 lety +1

    Looks cool, sounds even cooler 👍 I love it. Thanks for sharing your awesome built💕

  • @KarlsLabReport
    @KarlsLabReport Před 9 lety

    Would LOVE some details about the solenoids - how many turns of wire, what size wire, how large the piston, etc. VERY COOL piece of craftsmanship!!!

  • @MrBallistics
    @MrBallistics Před 11 lety

    you can hear some of that v8 growl too! very cool!

  • @LHJC10
    @LHJC10 Před 8 lety

    That's cool! even got the V8 rhythm without the pipes

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 8 lety

      Thanks - It just goes to show - it's the crossplane crankshaft layout that gives the iconic v8 sound.

  • @Aedrieus
    @Aedrieus Před 10 lety

    Now this should be the future of electric engines. XD

  • @LedCROwbar2
    @LedCROwbar2 Před 9 lety +1

    Sounds like an old Mercedes diesel engine :D
    Great work, very cool!

    • @jacobbelcher3512
      @jacobbelcher3512 Před 4 lety

      Yes it does. Both are very neat engines. Love the Mercedes engine, but this is a v8

  • @wdavem
    @wdavem Před 9 lety

    Very nice!! I'd wondered long ago about what a rotary version would be like but to actually see one is totally awesome!

  • @msgcheckout
    @msgcheckout Před 10 lety

    Amazingly it sounds like a real engine, my earlier comments were not criticism, but I have been looking to get more torque out of ICM, and there are a number of ways in which this can be achieved, but I don't have the time and money to put my theory into practice, and the idea shall go with me when I go, not too long to go now!

    • @davidrobert2007
      @davidrobert2007  Před 10 lety +1

      Don't worry I didn't take your comment as criticism, although I absolutely welcome constructive criticism.

    • @TheoSloat
      @TheoSloat Před 10 lety

      davidrobert2007 Take this as criticism, What an amazing build! I love how it sounds. does it make enuf power for a canoe? I would love to have a motor like that.