We made Raids & Strikes so easy, ANYONE could do them...
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I've been wanting (and asked) to run some endgame groups content together with our discord Phamily members. I liked the idea, but I wanted to set some guildes:
* ANYONE would be able to join, regardless of skill or experience level
* We would take out the pressure to perform, for both new and experienced players
We came up with a comp that simply works. Auto-attack guardians that do 26k dps and have access to copious amounts of Aegis. Heralds who provide permanent stability, and Scourges who can clean up any mistake that's possible being made.
The results were stellar. We had multiple first timers in our group, and all of them not only made it through the fights, they helped carry them!
We're taking this into raids this week, and will find out how it goes :)
00:00 Intro
00:39 Guardian (DPS)
02:45 Scourge (Alacrity, Healing)
03:53 Herald (Quickness, Stability)
04:10 The results
04:41 Outro
#guildwars2 #gaming #mmorpg - Hry
Join the Phamily! discord.gg/JGdQ6Hjny9
Guardian (DPS): gw2skills.net/editor/?PWQAIlVwuYVsJ2JO0L/raA-DSRYBRBH2cQnnRtSgKUAy8HAAVA-e
Herald (Quickness, Stability, DPS): gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAwyZlpQHMLyhdRNMM6hJSfsCKgJ7lazC-DSRYBR333cQgHSLCh2koVoqk5ZBAqA-e
Scourge (Alacrity, Healing): gw2skills.net/editor/?PSwEgE+rMDGETCbET1ruXPA-DSJYqR7fZkYKUdB47vAAqA-e
This was a lot of fun! I've never done group content, only did fractals once and got carried. This felt "easy" and to the point. I learned how to heal scourge, did a lot of mistakes, never got criticized , got a lot of positive reinforcement and now I have a new appreciation for the game and am ready to get the content going. Watching the vod later I also got a better understanding of the fights because I know exactly what I was doing at that time and were I could've done better. 12/10 will do it again! (and if nothing else, at least I have turtle now!)
Awesome! I'm happy the group enjoyed it so much, I had a blast as well!
There was minimal input needed from me, which made leading the group such a breeze, too.
This is fantastic! I love that you are trying to get new players into the end game stuff. Even as an experienced GW2 player, it can be difficult to find groups or get into this content! Thanks for getting others into it!
It's been such a fun experience for me as well! I often shied away from leading stuff like this, but everything and everyone being so chill, definitely makes me want to do it more.
I tried out Mechanist just now with the build from MrMystic, and if you set your mech to autocast all his abilities and just autoattack with a sword you do 27,5k dps. And without thinking, just slamming your forehead into your keyboard, that dps goes up to 37k. You dont need to track kits or weaponswaps or anything, just keep the skills on your bar on cd, and you have a shift signet as a panic button whenever you need it.
Mech (and cVirt) are definitely on my list to check out. Right now, I'm not too eager to swap out Guardians, though, as they provide 4x Aegis per minute on demand for the whole squad, if they all overlap casts. Otherwise, 12/minute, but we're not aiming for perfect timing.
Nice, that's a really clever concept. Assuming someone had Mechanist unlocked, you could do something similar with Power/Power Alac Mechanist. Hammer, Rifle, Sword/Pistol variations have low intensity options - maybe not one button auto-attack like Guardian, but easy enough for a new player to pick it up. Plus Mech has ranged options and good utilities.
Agreed! I actually play a very low intensity variant of mech (both dps and alacrity) quite often.
I intend to add builds to the list going forward, so people can pick and choose.
This time this video is NOT a click bait, and is quite fun and interesting!. Thanks for vid.
Truth be told its not that bad as many make it out to be
I have not started raiding for ages but startet 2 years ago and now i have 3 full leggy armor sets, ring and still play it with my static - even the CMs (quite regularly)
I feared the elitists back then but its really not so hard to join. You only need to be a bit brave 😊
Many groups search for know mech on non-CM fights anyway so be aware of a few things before you join…
- at least research the encounter beforehand so you know the mechanics on a basic level. That is what know mech means. Go in blind and wipe the group a few times and you will be kicked first sure ^^
- Try to stay away from special roles if you join at the start
- beware especially about the insta-death stuff that wipes the group
- stick to wing 1-4 first. Those are easy. 5-7 in NM too but check the mechanics because those could be tricky
- play an easy class you are comfy with. There is so much going on that you are happy to be aware of your surroundings and not worry too much about your rotations. Nonetheless get to know your rotation a bit so you are at least decent with it. That may sound a bit harsh but believe me - if all people do 5k dps the encounter is really hard for everyone and you will fail which takes the fun out of it. So dont worry too much - go to the golem and test it a bit. If you are like 25k on the golem you are golden because in real fights 15k is enough to clear it
And as presented here there are really easy autoattack builds that can do that. So do a bit of research and get raiding!
- strikes are really easy - just join via the lfg 😊
- stay away from CMs; contrary to what i said above CMs (fractals, raids, strikes) are definitely harder and require you to play properly. They are called challenge modes for a reason so dont grieve yourself with those until you are able to handle normal mode 😊
A lot of my own (early) experience was similar to yours:).
I did focus on learning special roles ASAP, though, as those were tickets into pugs when I had low kp.
Definitely agree on learning the easy builds first. I personally prefer that approach to sending people over to a build site where they're bombarded with options.
Time to learn playing those 3 clases then. Never been to Raids or Strikes T^T rarely see anyone willing to carry or open a learning session too!
I hope to eventually add different professions and/or builds, as well. But they gotta remain true to the overall idea (dropping guardian would mean we lose a lot of aegis, etc).
Quite surprised to see core guardians for dps rather than rifle mechs cause of melee vs range
The abundance of extra aegis felt like a nice safety blanket for these runs, as well as the elite signet.
Over time, I want to add builds for people to pick from, though.
Rifle mechs would encourage these players to spread out and not get boons/healing
Core guardian the fun part was that I made one with zealot gears, still holds 20k dps auto hammer, and when needed, especially in fractals, I swap to staff and use burst healing and full group full HP
Ooh, cool! I might check that out for myself.
I love trying so e of these more off-the-cuff builds.
Holy shit, Guardian just autoattacking does almost as much dps as pre-nerf rifle mechanist. That's very nice. Also nice how you can expand the build in steps, like equipping a greatsword instead of a hammer and just pressing all the greatsword abilities on cooldown. If I had to guess, that would already break the 34k dps mark.
Yeah, greatsword feels like a great next step. I figured the core dps guardian could eventually graduate to a dragonhunter.
with 6 hammer guards you should drop virtues for honor and run "writ of persistence" to buff symbols even harder 😎
Ooh, might have to give that a shot :O ty!
Have that Guardian build almost exact, just off a few points here and there - I can only manage 8k DPS on the golem - not even close to 25k.
It requires having all boons, though, which is a realistic thing to aim for in raids/strikes. Without those, DPS flatlines rather fast.
@@phandrel thank you.
There is another lazy DPS for newbies to focus on learning mechanics rather than looking at their skill bar too much: the Pistol Akimbo Deadeye. This one is 900-range rather than Core Guardian's melee. Put as much Power, Precision and Ferocity on your gears and Signets as possible, Ctrl+RMB on your skill 3 to set that rather than Pistol 1 to auto attack. Rotation is F1, F2 every 20 seconds. After F2, your Deadeye will keep autoattacking with Pistol 3 without pressing another skill and deal 24k DPS in best case scenario. Your fingers and eyes are now free to react to AOEs and other fight mechanics.
Thanks, will give it a try, never played thief before
I'll definitely add that one to the list of future builds to try and add to the comp!
The guardian aegis was nice, but probably overkill on quite a few of the encounters. The extra range will definitely feel nice.
thanks i think i will try this since my left hand got injured i can't doing my berserker rotation properly
Isn't Pistol DD's damage actually horrible compared to either Mecha or Guardian?
Sounds like some fun off meta shenanigans, I joined the discord but I still don't understand where I can try to apply for a spot in one of the next runs :)
In the #guild-activities channel, although you might have to scroll up slightly to see the message :) (gotta react w/ the red circle).
I'll get a more sightly system in place soonish, which should make it easier, though.
I love Guardian.
This build is also a lot of fun.
Can we get a solo pve guardian build to fight Vetrans, elite's and champions on our own?
I have been using this build and it does pretty well solo against most things. Just wondering if you would change some things if solo.
I like that idea, I'll look into it! I think we can make it a bit more OW proof, but I gotta spend some time experimenting.
Condi harb would be good for easy condi build as most of the rotation is press shroud off cd and you can only auto and still do well plus it’s ranged. If cc is needed you can press shroud 5 or elite minion
Also with the curse trait to heal for condi damage.
Awesome! Didn't think of harbinger immediately for an easy condi build, but that one might definitely be worth to play around with. Thanks!
@@phandrel your welcome! And of course there is condi virt too
I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since season 2 and sadly, have never seen raid content. How can I get involved in this to actually see the content? (11 years without seeing some of this stuff is too long...)
I try to organize a weekly run on discord (discord.gg/JGdQ6Hjny9), for now it's a bit of a first come/first serve situation. But eventually, the goal is to make this perpetuate into multiple groups.
We cleared Wing 1 Saturday, with minor hiccups (mainly me messing up on calling something I told I would on Sabetha)
I hope you can make a similar comp for w5. I would really appreciate it
I plan on some extreme cheese for those encounters :) Stupid levels of toughness for both tanks on Soulless Horror, more Aegis than Dhuum can push out lines, etc.
@@phandrel do u play on eu? I hope I'm able to join you lol
@@imdamanization yep! Spots might be limited at first, but I'm looking at getting multiple runs going soon
Dual Pistol deadeyes work as much as core Guardian, maybe better since last patch, put skill 3 on auto and just use mark on CD, pretty lazy pretty fun :p
Definitely gonna see how that one goes :D Ideally, I hope we can make a list of builds that interact well together.
37k dps by autoattack core build
Elementalists are crying
Elementalists always seem to need that one (or 10) extra button.
Although, I must admit that the condi dps tempest build that sticks to fire is kinda fun. Still requires to hit 11 skills off cooldown, though.
This sounds an absolutely marvellous idea!
I have stayed away from the group content for a couple of years due to the toxic Try-Hard-ness of it all. If you can finish the encounter without entering keyboard smashing rage from too many wipes then, surely, that is good enough? Games are for fun, right?
I do get the feeling that some folk believe that being good at a video game gives you some sort of status - no, it doesn't :D No one cares!
Back in the day, I was something of a big wheel {:D} in the Gran Turismo environment - it was prior to the online gaming scene being as seamless as it is now. You had to buy some extra gear to stream your playing to and send the files off to the adjudicators for your run to be checked for compliance to the rules and so on. Anyhow, back then I was in the global top ten and was a recognised 'name' on the game forums, especially as a 'tuner' (similar to designing builds in GW2 but for modifying and setting up cars). Does anyone give a damn? No! :lol:
Hence, my rather sniffy attitude to the elitist 'kick/mock the losers/noobs' vibe that arises all too often in online games.
I generally approach games the same nowadays. I've had my try hard moments in the past too - yours sounds so much cooler than what I did, though.
But yeah, I'm all for finding people with the same attitude and having fun together. If that's 10 people speedrunning, or 10 people going as chill as possible, doesn't matter. I just care about have 9 others with me with the same mindset.
I mean it’s cool, but part of raiding for me was getting good enough to do well (after dying multiple times) and this to me at least takes the fun out of it…
No law against doing it your way, mate :) Back in the old times of gaming we used to make things hard on purpose for just that reason - doing Doom with just the shotgun , that sort of thing. In LOTRO there was a portion of the player base that did what is called Naked Running - it's not as rude as it sounds, it just means using no armour and/or jewellery :)
Nice, but you know you chickened out by not running "core only" teams :p
Haha, that might have to become a goal eventually!
yeah but raids are still really annoying for people with limited play time... not only learning and practicing mechanics (which, to me are just torturous, fussy and annoying), but finding groups, waiting for groups to start, which eats away at your limited time... or when you do have a group being locked into content for multiple hours, not wanting to let people down, and then your family come along and say "Hey I need you for something, dad/husband". And, as an altoholic, I can't bring myself to focus and just 'get good' with one thing, I need to be able to flip around from prof to prof, spec to spec.
Open world metas are the greatest endgame content for people like me. I can try out weird builds that are just fun not minmaxed, perfect builds that perform perfectly in perfect conditions, I can just go afk at random and not let anyone down, I can log on, find an active world event and just join in. Its a blast. Raiding is a chore.
There are indeed countless of downsides to (organized) group content, this is my take on a solution for requests I've been getting recently to keep things fun and smooth to organize as well.
Sorry what? 3+min of ADS before this video? Please stop!
That is sadly out of my control. If I were to make 8min long videos, I could put them in the middle (YT still decides if you see those). But as you can see, most of my videos are 3-5 min long.
@@phandrel It's really sad how bad CZcams is :/ I like your videos, but the YT ads make me mad