$1100, $400, $125 Margaux Wines: Which is BETTER?
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- In this video we’re comparing three 1855 Bordeaux Classification wines:
Chateau Margaux, Chateau Palmer, and Chateau Brane-Cantenac. All
three wines are produced in the same Margaux appellation and even in the
same commune. All of the wines are from the 2005 vintage, which is a
classic vintage In Bordeaux and particularly successful in Margaux.
Often referred to as “the Queen of First Growths”, Chateau Margaux is one
of the most collectable wine from Bordeaux and retails for $1,100. The
Chateau Palmer retails for about $400 and the Brane-Cantenac for $125.
We ask “How much better, if at all, is a $1,000+ compared to a $125
bottle?”
While comparing the wines, we explore what makes the soil so unique in
Margaux along with the history and location of each of the chateaux.
Viewers will get facts and research on each of the wines, along with our
subjective opinions. We conclude the video by comparing our preferences
with that of the CellarTracker community. See what our final conclusions
are about these incredible wines.
The video includes original footage from Margaux along with footage from
our wine cellar from where the bottles were chosen.
A blind tasting would have been better
Lots of comments about it - great suggestion! Team B and Pops is on it...:-)
Yes. That's the allways best.
Instead of people focusing on what you should’ve done in the video, we all need to recognize the effort (time and money) to create this video. The editing is superb and adding side notes to each wine elevates the content. It’s entertaining and engaging as well. Because of this video, I took a 2009 Brane-Cantenac to Flemmings last night and it was AMAZING. Thank you all 🙏🏻
First of all, thank you for your kind words. Second, you are absolutely right - the editing is quite challenging and B is doing it all by herself. Self taught.
I love the fact that the '09 Brane-Cantenac was fabulous - I have four bottles of that vintage in my cellar and now I'm really excited.
Love that you're doing this with your daughter. Looks like you guys are having a lot of fun! Unbelievable collection and even better dadding!
9:17 keep it real, B! Love it, great stuff as always you guys.
You guys should try doing a lineup like this but blind!
Agreed - great suggestion!
Love it!! Someone on here that actually pops bottles and puts them up to some major players in wine. It doesn’t need to be 1st growth, 2nd growths are monsters!!
You’re videos are incredible, always love watching them. Thanks for sharing all these beautiful bottles and love of wine with us!
Loving your content so far! Congratz!!
I truly enjoyed this video. Well done guys.
Love this!! Y’all are awesome!
Yessss. Made my day. More videos please
My new favorite channel!
An amazing cellar to be able to make these videos! keep em coming!
Great video , you are doing amazingly good! Keep it up
“The slurp heard around the world” had me rofl 🤣. Really enjoying your videos!
just a great video thank you!!
I concur. 05 Palmer has been my favorite Bordeaux of all time. Delightful layers of fruits and silky texture, endless finish.
I like your channel, keep on going!
The videos keep getting better and better, keep up the good work!
Maybe do a blind tasting of different price points next?
Blind tasting is in our future for sure! Great suggestion.
You guys are quickly becoming my favorite wine channel. Great job! I love how you open stuff that is hard to find/collectable/expensive and aren’t afraid to say how you really feel. How did you decide to try these open label vs blind? I was just wondering. Please keep these videos coming.
Thank you for your nice comments - our goal is to keep it real. We went back and forth on having Stacey tasting them blind. It's hard not to notice the wine smell and color when I open the wine so I would need to have someone else do it for us. We'll figure it out and in the future we'll do some blind tasting for sure based on all the feedback.
You should make a video on Soldera. Soldera wine rocks and is easily confused with top end Burgundy although it is not cheap
Very interesting tasting!👍👍👍👍👍
Fantastic Friday video...
Very nicely presented and entertaining, thanks! Whet my whistle, I have 6 Palmer
same vintage too! great video
Will -hopefully- try one of those wines one day :). bought a 2019 Domaine Tempier Bandol ‘ Cabassaou’ this week.
Thanks is putting it mildly! Maybe have a little recap tasting after a few hours -- each time with the age worthy wonders?
Love your channel. I’ve started collecting myself lately but worry about buying expensive wine online. Could you recommend several online merchants that you trust in providing quality wine? Thanks.
Nice horizontal tasting. Well done. How about trying some verticals?
Check out our vertical tasting of haut brion!
I have had all three wines but with different vintages: 1983 Palmer, 1986 Margaux, and 2019 Brane-Cantenac. The Palmer and the Margaux were neck to neck with Palmer slightly ahead. But the Margaux showed a certain breeding that Palmer could not match. The Brane-Cantenac was a distance third. I really enjoy your channel.
'83 Palmer is legendary - what a treat! I had so lucky to have had a bottle of that last year in Paris from a chateau re-release. It was special. I'm glad you had a great experience with the '86 Margaux. I've found the '86 vintage to be closed to the point where I'm wondering if they'll ever come around. Good for you!!
2019 Brane is not even fair to compare.
No 2019 from Bordeaux is even close to be ready to drink. It is one of the vintages that would need a lot if time to show the potential. Last 3 months i have tried over 150 2019 vintages here in Bordeaux and every time on both nose and pallet it is not that nice feeling. But it will be a beautiful vintage and should start open up in maybe 7-8 years.
Great stuff, wish I had these wines. My God!
Bought a case of 2020 Brane today based on this video. Cheers
2005 was such a great vintage
05 has developed into a great vintage for sure. Thank you for another very enjoyable post. If you have other regions where you have reds or whites another taste off would be great. Or maybe a vertical? Cheers and thanks again.
We're just getting started so if you have specific suggestions, please let us know through comments or email. We would love to hear from you.
Just stumbled to your channel, great stuff…love Bordeaux!
Brane Cantenac always delivers! Henri Lurton's focus on modern winemaking techniques is putting Brane-Cantenac in the spotlight. It’s also at a great price point, compared to the other 2 wines (excellent wines but pricey).
Looking forward to more Bordeaux content from your channel!
Also, this would have been even better if done blind!!!
Salud 🍷!
Agreed - just bought more Ch. Brane-Cantenac.
@@OurPourDecisions 👍🏻 Plus that gold Label just looks stunning in the cellar!
I take this episode as evidence that the wine needs to cellar long enough to get to its happy place so it will drink really well. I would have liked to pick the Chateau Margaux as my favorite but the Palmer was clearly in a better place. Brane Cantenac? I am not the barnyard guy, so good to know. The only way to know is to buy more than one bottle and take your best guess about when to open a bottle to zero in on when the vintage of that wine is at its best.
Yea, agree, would have been fun to see this done as a blind tasting.
Congrats on creating what is arguably the best wine channel on CZcams to-date. Love the content, the wines and just how humble you guys are on screen. Cheers!
What an incredibly nice comment. Thank you!
@@OurPourDecisions what is your day job?
No. Not even close. Mathew Horkey and Konstantin Baum is much better. And they taste mostly blind.
@@nikolajkrarup-os9gnwine archive, wine king and Andre Mack from Bon Appetit. Konstantin is the best by far
I can't believe you opened up the 2005 vintages again! I saw you opening the 2005 Mouton-Rothschild and thought infanticide.
19 years of age is plenty. You may prefer more age, but that is not infanticide by any definition. Cheers!
What an amazing cellar,! The sommelier has to taste blind the next time... maybe the dad as well because he's definitely tasted loads of amazing wine
On it! :-)
Love this video again !! Nice comparison, and unbelievable that Chateau Margaux still needs time !! Love all your insight on the appellation as well. Thanks for doing this again, keep them coming !!! And ... Bought the 2023 en primeur, the Chateau Margaux had the highest ratings in total from all the critics. Be sure to visit my wine cellar when you are in the Netherlands 😉
We'd love to visit your cellar! Email us and we'll stay in touch.
@@OurPourDecisions no clue how to email you 🤣🤣🤣
berit@ourpourdecisions.com
Perfect ! Did you receive my email ?
I was lucky enough to try the 2009 Chateau Pontet-Canet recently! I think they’re fully biodynamic/organic by now. I guess that’s Pauillac. Recently here in Little Rock we held a Bordeaux-Rendezvous tasting with 16 classified growths. My fav from Margaux was d’Issan ‘14.
I look forward to some Italian on this channel! Barolo and Brunello especially!
We'll do some in the future for sure. Thank you for the suggestion!
Idea!!: now that we know “Pops” as you lovingly call him loves Bordeaux. You should do a blind tasting with the Palmer Bordeaux, and a California Bordeaux style blend and another Bordeaux style blend from a different country. (Super Tuscan?) Make them all from vintages that are with a few years of each other and that rates really high for that particular region and also make them around the same price point. Keep up the good work love your videos 😊
Love that idea! - Pops
Very interesting comparison of three great Margaux wines of classic 2005 vintage :) Maybe next time to do a blind tasting of it and select the best wine this way :)?
We'll incorporate blind tasting in the future - seems like a consistent feedback from all our viewers. Good stuff!
Great video. I've already visited Margaux and Palmer. 2005 Margaux blew my mind but 83 Palmer could compete with Margaux in a blind tasting (Palmer was my fav). Cheers
Cheers!
Superb
Again a very interesting tasting event. But ... what about blind tasting these wines, and do you think any of you would have been able to recognize them ?
Great suggestion and something we've taken note of. Will absolutely happen in the future.
Love expensive wine, but since I drink wine pretty frequently I tend to also look for great $20-$70 bottles to try. Would be cool to see which bottles you guys like that are in that range
I'm about the same as you($20-100). My wheelhouse is $35-80(some XLNT St Emilion for $35, Left Bank starts at $45). I'm a Quality/Price ratio(QPR) guy, like you.
I get as much overall enjoyment with a 97-point wine(shorthand) for $75, as a 98-pt, $125-200 wine. HOWEVER, a 100-pt wine is a Different Animal.
To keep an example within Margaux, a $45(now $75) 2015 Giscours was Great(feminine, elegant but complex smell & flavor. Medium to Med-Heavy balance). 96 points.
We need to that for sure.
Shouldn’t this have been done blind to eliminate label bias?
Bias is always there - I love the suggestion of tasting these blind. They'd be single blind of course since we're picking the wine from the cellar.
We have really been arguing about doing something blind. Glad to hear there are so many of you interested! Stay tuned.
I would hace added Château Giscours and Château Kirwan - these are very good values! And: what would be interesting: your personal exchange rate! E.g. "I would exchange 1 Chateau Margaux for 2 Palmer or 5 Brane-Cantenac (this really for example) to determinate the value. What do you think then?
That's a tough one....
Bordeaux pricing is heavily influenced by several factors. That 2005 will be slightly over $1k, yet say, a 1998 will be under $500. Futures can often be purchased for under $400. Same can be said for those other wines. The answer to your question applies to each individual. It would have been more interesting if you covered the labels, tasted them blind, then revealed them at the end along with the prices.
Great points. Lots of viewers have suggested blind tastings so expect some of that in the future.
Palmer is an amazing winery !!! Fascinating tasting.... would be super interesting to do it BLIND and rank it...
Lots of comments about doing this blind. Love it - great suggestion!
@@OurPourDecisionsBlind removes confirmation bias.
Do a tasting of the best of Chile!
Fore sure - lot's of great wines made in Chile. Got any favorites you'd like to see?
I had alter ego second wine of Chateau Palmer ….. it’s an awesome wine. We can enjoy this wine sooner than Palmer.
what kind of wine glasses do u use ?
These particular glasses were Schott Zwiesel purchased at Costco. Practical and affordable.
How do you'll store the opened wines?
They get consumed that same evening by the team (and friends). We had steak with these! :-)
Blind tasting is the only way to fairly compare
What wine glasses did you use?
Stölzle Bordeaux glasses from Costco :-)
Palmer is your favorite; I would like to know your thoughts on Alter Ego and how it compares to Palmer. Who is Jeff?🍷
We would love to compare with Alter Ego!
Watch our cellar tour video to find out who Jeff is! :-)
@@OurPourDecisions - I did, but I guess I need to rewatch it 🤪
The man behind the camera 👌🏻👊🏻👍🏻
Absolutely love Alter Ego! A second label not a second wine…big difference!
Blind taste it.
For me, Brane-Cantenac is the epitome of barnyard smell and the jammy seductive taste...Quite like it. Only tasted 1986 Margaux, which was fantastic, and 1986 Palmer, which I did not like too much. One notion about the tasting: half-blind would have been more honest? Or maybe the styles are so distinctive that there would have been too many giveaways in any case...
There have been lots of suggestions about single-blind tasting and we plan to incorporate those into future episodes. You bring up a good point, which is why we didn't do it this time. The aromas and colors are different enough that I would need someone else to open the bottles for us. Also, I think the wines were distinct enough in this episode that they would be easy to pick out. On the other hand, I think single-blind tasting is a great suggestion that we'll incorporate in future episodes. We're just getting started so we'll learn as we go!
Great video! but should have been a blind tasting and before you reveal the bottle score each of them out of 100 ;)
Quite a few viewers have pointed this out and we will most definitely do some blind tastings in the future.
new subscribers from Norway gets an invite to next tasting right?
LOL - selvsagt! Må dog betale flybilletten selv. :-)
Love how you drink wine like me, do I think it taste great?
Nice video. Next time blind to avoid biases
Great suggestion!
Lafite the king? No … Latour
LOL - a person after my own heart. Stay tuned because we'll do an episode on Latour very soon.....
Next time do it blind! Another great video though.
Agreed - blind tasting is going to happen in the future!
Seems early to be drinking a 2005.
Too early for Ch. Margaux, on the early side for Ch. Palmer, and perfect timing for Ch. Brane-Cantenac.
Next time another sommelier please. Not nice to listen to. There can be much more passion and love within expressing what you taste/feel.
Thanks for another very good and interesting episode.
One small request, remove the background music. It takes the focus from your interesting comments!
Noted!
You guys have instagram? Would love to follow your page and watch you open a bottle every now and then. Gr Robert Nass from the Netherlands