Forst thing about UFC is that judges constantly flip flop about control time and takedowns. For Petr Yan they mean nothing, for islam, ngannu and aljo they're enough to win, suddenly damage and strikes aren't most important, just make up your minds already so we can have clear rules
Well, WE have a clear scoring criteria. Problem is what you said, Consistency. They don't FOLLOW the criteria. Fans and judges alike, don't realize that certain things outscore others, cancel them out. It's damage #1. So IF damage is Equal, they move on.. Effective striking is equal, they move on the grappling. Then aggression, octagon control, control time, etc. But if a guy walks down his opponent the entire round, showing some effective striking, and octagon control, but then gets rocked and dropped in the last 30 seconds. Who wins that round ?
If the damage or striking impact is even then control comes into it more so, if it’s relatively even then control matters more. (I think yan won) Also it’s different judges on different nights with different fighters, it’s never going to be consistent.
Yan sort of got screwed on the cards that night, but those same people saying he should have won; are saying Yan was Cheated out of the win vs aljo in the rematch. Fans only complain when thier favorite fighter doesn't win. Volk clearly lost that fight, stopping the takedowns and going on to lose in the striking exchanges to Islam means you lost the round. Islam then beats you on the feet and takes you down, has your back and is controlling you, and all you loand is pitter patter shots that don't help to improve postion, means you didn't do anything significant to win the round.
@@floatinggoose9197 also what people are doing, is wanting to hate on Islam. Or put him down, so they can't compare him to khabib, or make sure khabib is still on a pedestal for best. They expected Islam to steamroll volk, so when it didn't happen like that, they want to give Volk more credit than he deserves. Volk definitely overperformed and did much better than everyone expected, but he still spent a large part of the fight on the wrong side of the grappling exchanges, even if he was able to stop a few take downs, and stay out of trouble on the ground, he was still put in those spots and when they were striking; Islam did better than him. Islam beat him cleanly, it was very close, but Islam did enough to get the decision.
Not when there's an interim title at FW, another near #1 contenders fight with Max vs Allen, and then Beneil on his streak. It's fair to Volk only, but nobody else.
@@NateMulder Its not fair to the people who watch MMA. Rematch in July during Fight Week, and let Yair defend the title (he's on a 6 month suspension until cleared) against Max v Allen. Islam dont want to fight Volk, he's already talking about retirement.
I love how your drawing managed to capture Islam's sideways mouth despite it being at such an awkward angle to do so, your talents are truly unparalleled! 😂
Hes not getting a title fight, literally no one cares about Beneil, he couldn't sell ppvs and fans would only watch his title fights if a bigger fight was after him and your forced to watch him cos he's co main.
Eh, the buzz isn't dead. That might've been the greatest fight I've ever seen and even people who aren't as closely following seem enthralled by it still
I think it's unfair to not follow through with the deal that was agreed upon. P4P on the line and Lightweight belt on the line. That was the deal. It's unfair that Islam took a massive risk and got nothing for it. Got disrespected and falsely accused of cheating. CKB showed their true colours, they are whiny sore losers.
He’s fighting Charles Oliveira in May. He should already be fighting for the title but got screwed because they put this match up together. I want Beneil to win against Charles so we can see him face Islam. Tough matchup for him, but he can get it done.
@@mikeymouse3941 he didn't get screwed imo, fighting charles is the correct thing to do since fiziev is on a 6 fight win streak and is fighting gaethje. if fiziev beats geathje who is a big name and makes it exciting he would be riding a 7 fight win streak with a win over a big name in the top 5, and would even be ranked higher than beneil. if beneil chose to sit around they might easily give it to fiziev.
@@mw6836 Beneil is on an 8 fight win streak over better completion than Fiziev. He deserved the shot at Islam over Volk, but it is what it is. Fiziev doesn’t deserve it with a win over Justin Gaethje, at least not until the Beneil has fought Oliviera. If Beneil loses and Fiziev wins, then he would be next up. But if Beneil loses, he got screwed because he should’ve already gotten his shot at the belt.
@@TheScience69 lol I’m a Volk fan and I do think he would win a rematch, but it would be close. Sure, Islam gassed in the last round but it happens and it’s not like Volk will steam roll him. They both need to defend against fighters in their actual weight class. If they can do so, then I say run it back 3-4 fights down the line.
@@fifaelregala2610 Under the old scoring guidelines, it'd be arguable... but maybe not reasonable, lol. But under the new guidelines, it's RIDICULOUS to give Islam 3 rounds when he did nothing with the position in one of them except to hold on and eat punches... which is exactly why the guidelines were changed to try to prevent dumbass judges from giving rounds to guys who just lay and pray (or hold back position and pray) while getting bombed by the active fighter that they are just holding.
@@linx4677 why? Just because you like Volk more. It's pretty clear the second-round strike was not a knockdown, and Islam hit him with the cleaner strikes. Round 3 is razer close and could go either way, but Islam landed more significant strikes and had more control time. Rounds 1 and 4 are clear for Islam.
Always enjoy hearing your take. I also want to thank you for doing your due diligence and covering the IV subject accurately and with all available pertinent information. I've seen so many people cover this topic over the past few days and almost everyone leaves out some of the important details. For example, one of the big ones is that many people have been discussing the tweets and USADA response but fail to mention that the Australia commission doesn't even allow the small amount that USADA explained. You're always thorough and I appreciate that because knowing you covered it all here gives me confidence that if I'm ever listening to a subject from you that I'm not familiar with, I can trust that you're accurately explaining it and including all pertinent information. Too many lazy content creators and people who muddy the water and falsely represent certain things, and you're not one of them.
Y think he did his do diligence? well i have news for you: HE fkn didn't....he clearly failed to report that both Combat Sport Commission of Western Austrialia and Usada released a public statement already , Friday 17, clearing Makhachev of any wrongdoing , this guy here is just another hater pushing a false narrative designed to discredit Makhchev's win. Hardly an honest and fair "MMA journalist" it's just ridculous the amount of selective quotes this man put in the video, what i'll give him credit for it's that he's really really good at building a narrative choosing what information furthers his own(Volkanovski's camp) agenda; and gullible or biased fans thinks he's not the one muddying the water or misrepresenting things. This entire video's based on the unsubstantiated claims of a salty Dan Hooker, i like news based on facts ,not unproved/unprovable hypotheses.
Yup so many people saw that interview and now just think team CKB must just have been lying but no investigation has actually been done and USADA will avoid looking into it unless obvious evidence shows up that would make them look bad
Seems like you didnt do any research either. Ali wasnt in Australia so his tweet is totally irrelevant. Also the athletic commission recorded the cage weights of both fighters and islam came in UNDER weight. Thats a fact. If he IV hydrated he must be terrible at it cause he came into the fight dehydrated. He was actually only 2lbs heavier than Volk. This is also played a factor in Islam gassing and being less durable as the fight went on.
its funny bc once u said that it prompted me to look up john fitch on ufcstats then i FINALLY found someone with as nullish striking as islam (2 strikes out per minute, 1 strike absorbed minute), its wild, even khabib is literally double this
@@verycalmgamer4090 Well, that's not really cope since Makhachev won the fight. Still, it was a stupid comment from him. Unless he was trying to make a word play as in hit the mats like Muslims praying on mats, but also hit the mats like the guy can't wrestle and doesn't wanna hit the wrestling mat. That'd be clever, but I don't think he had the foresight for that one.
Nah rematch asap. This is a historical rivalry. If either lose the belt then the rivalry doesn't matter and the fight is ruined from a financial standpoint. However from a pure logic standpoint they should fight defend their belts adsp.
About your question about round 4. You score it that way because one fighter is controlling the other fighter. If there were no judge to stand them up, the over the shoulder shots would never win him the fight, eventually the man controlling the other man will eventually end the fight. You know this from the early mma events without time limits. At least IMHO.
There are also many cases where the fighter with controlling position, in attempting to advance to land ground and pound or a submission, loses that control. It's an unknown that can't factor in scoring the fight. We can only go off what actually happened, which was no damage or threatening submissions. That said, I gave the round to Makhachev. On a side note, it looked like Volkanovski landed a few of his over the shoulder shots on his own chin.
Thats only true if the person being controlled needs to invest energy in order for the position not worsen. But if the person controlling is the one wasting energy trying to get the finish, he will eventually have to give up the position
Love the work. I think it was a super interesting fight, but doubt we will see a rematch. I am pretty interested to see Islam vs Beneil if Beneil can get thru Charles. And interested to see Volk vs Yair. That said, I am even more interested to see the Beige Frequency take on BGL crossing enemy lines and drone striking Brendumb with thiccc boy intel.
In regards to the P4P rankings a fair question might be why Makhachev was basically given Khabib's reputation just for being his protégé. It's not as if Islam has cleared out the 155 lb division.
Exactly what I took from this fight. Though I do believe he’s a more complete fighter than khabib, his IQ may be suspect.. So either Islam is overhyped or Volk is Batman with prep time.
@@TheScience69 That's a good point. Either way I look at Makhachev's record and see an impressive win over Olivera and then...what exactly? The win against Volk is nice but he's a featherweight. At 155 Makhachev's second most impressive victory is over a then 23 year old Arman Tsarukyan I guess?
@BiggieTrismegistus bobby greene at catchweight so doesn't even count, and Dan hooker who took the fight on short notice I'm pretty sure. It's just because kebab fled the sport, so all his fans are pretending he tagged Islam in on his career like that's how it works. They're all pretending that Islam has accomplished what kebab accomplished because they're friends. It was a joke everyone comparing his streak with volks lol. Not even close to equal level of competition. Islam was there the whole time kebab was, and no-one gave a crap until kebab left so they moved on to the next.
Pretty sure it was Fedor vs Co Cop. Or Randy vs Chuck, or a Chuck vs Tito, light heavyweight was the glamor division for a long time before the lighter weight guys got any attention.
@@zachsawyer2067 I agree with you. GSP and BJ were 2 of the most skilled fighters ever, whereas the fights he listed were super popular fighters but nowhere near as well rounded. That was like the best PFP matchup that this fight was made out to be.
the scoring base is on damage when it favours whoever the promotion wants to win but all the sudden were basing the fight on control this goes back and forth with whoever the promotion seems to be more "profitable"
It’s odd how they scored Brenner v Zukhugov (opening fight on early prelims) It was consistent with how they scored Pimblett v Gordon But both times I completely disagreed with the judges I think they have very specific criteria that goes deeper than the 3 categories they mention
It's not based on damage though; it's based on "impact." Impact is an ambiguous term but damage is worse because it leads people to factor in things like cuts and bruises.
@@BeigeFrequency "Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponents’ energy, confidence, abilities and spirit." - Unified Rules However, clinching your opponent against the fence and leaning on him, seems to be subjective in whether it can win a round.
i feel like the 4th round backpack argument should be looked at the same way the shevchenko vs santos fight was seen. even though santos was controlling shev, she didnt do enough damage as valentina did to fully get the rounds
Islam beat Volk on the feet for the first 1.5min before that, as explained. Even Volk said on Helwani that he lost the 4th. Valentina vs Santos was different. Santos didn’t win on the feet in those later rounds and when she did control her, she literally got zero offense off while Valentina was getting more damaging shots off than Volks pitter patter punches + Santos didn’t have her back for the same length.
I just rewatched the fight. Santos had Shevchenkos back for the last 1.5min of rounds 1&3. She was losing the first 3.5min of those rounds, but not by much. 2/3 judges gave her the first round and all 3 gave her the third round. The one judge that didn’t give her the first isn’t far fetched, in my opinion, as she was winning 2/3 of that round before getting her back taken, as opposed to Volk losing on the feet, and then, like i said earlier, she was actually punching Santos with her back taken and snapping Santos’ head back pretty good. 2/3 judges also gave her round 2, where she again was winning on the feet but spent like a minute with Santos on top. Santos literally did nothing with her top position, though. Valentina had her in full guard and was landing decent punches. Valentina won rounds 4&5 clearly and per all the judges. Volk clearly won the 5th and edged out the 3rd, but to argue he won anything more is a stretch.
@@seanskywalka5172 Gotcha. I personally don't interpret that reference necessarily as an accusation. Just talking about the issue doesn't mean someone thinks Makhachev is guilty.
@@BiggieTrismegistus come on man. Theres not even a question mark after it. And then it should P4P over Volk. It's obvious that the guy's a salty Volk fan
It did amount to something though. He put Volk in a position he couldn't escape. Instead of yelling at him he could've worked harder to escape. He didn't though because the threat of the submission.
@@lindseyormsbee That is where things get a bit murky imo. You can only score the control like that IF the effective striking/grappling was equal. It's priority based, not added. I think adding grappling control time to the criteria for effective grappling would clear this up, but I think it would also be bad for the sport.
Great video as always, but I kind of disagree with the idea of an immediate rematch at 12:36 I think a rematch will hold up both the 145 and 155 division. Yair is next in line for 145 since he's the interim champ and at 155, the next contender should be Dariush. Guy is on a 8 fight win streak and just beat Gamrot.
I think round 4 is a clear Islam round. He won on the feet before the takedown, and while he didn't damage Volkonovski, it's clear he was the one who was in a dominant position. To explain it as best as I can, Volkonovski was simply unable to move if he wanted to, while Islam could at any time. I also don't understand the missed strike analogy since, using that logic, any form of grappling is ineffective unless it causes a finish or tears a ligament.
Yeah, if someone is on your back, you're losing. You can't finish them from that position. The best you can do is force a stalemate, as Volk did, or escape.
His analogy is a complete fallacy. I’ve never heard such a terrible argument. Taking the back is not effective grappling?🥴 How can we take this guy serious? He simply wants to change the rules because he didn’t like the outcome of the fight. Instead of being a professional and sticking to the rules. He gives his opinion to try to change the rules because he doesn’t like it. To don’t like something is not an argument. Stick to the rules. I can make up rules if things Volkanovski did. I can make a rule that Volkanovski can’t stay in a position and holding the arm instead of trying to get up.
@@fifaelregala2610 They don’t believe that. They are just frustrated. They are so frustrated. They have to invent new rules because they don’t like the outcome. It’s not genuine. It’s pure frustration. If Volkanovski had the back of Islam. They would be celebrating the whole week. They wouldn’t have any problem with it. He would have made hundreds of videos how impressive it is that Volkanovski took Islam back.
I'm a very casual UFC viewer. However the style you present and layout a topic manages to captivate my interest and care. Bravo and for old time sale #TeamBeige
Damn bruh you gotta upload more frequently, I always forget about your channel man you make some great content This fight shows the judging didn't get any better since the rule change , judging fights off damage is dumb and very very subjective, imo this fight should've been a draw or a ud by volk. The judge that gave a 49-46 scorecard should never be allowed to judge another mma fight ever again
Dude, such an amazing fight! People are still debating the result online, and everything that has happened since then has only served to fuel the continued discussion. I can't wait to see Volk vs. Yair, but I also want Volk to run it back with Islam, and I really can't choose which fight I want more.
I think the Yair fight will be super interesting. I imagine Volk wins somewhat handily, but Yair is so flashy and such a unique fighter. Seeing a fresh matchup personally excites me
Makhachev performed far better in Volk's area of strength (standup) evidenced partly by the many times Volk himself acknowledged hard shots, than Volk performed in Makhachev's area of strength (the ground). However, Makhachev definitely underestimated Volk which is partly why he didn't dominate like all his other fights. There should be a rematch & if so, I think Makhachev wins much more convincingly.
I think a rematch would favor volk. Knowing his wrestling is good enough to hold off Islam he can do more with the striking and put on a much more dominant performance
i dont know if you think youre talking highly about makhachev here but its way more insulting to say that islam undestimated his opponent and didnt took his training camp seriously than just admitting volk showed good defence on the ground.
Team Kreg for the 2nd place true victory! And I’m a competition noob, but to my understanding in most BJJ rule sets Islam holding Volk in a body triangle for minutes without advancing position or landing a sub would probably only count for the initial guard pass and pin, im not sure how the submission attempts would be ruled though but regardless in an MMA rule set I definitely favor Volk winning that exchange because he was resisting like the Spartans at Thermopylae while keeping himself pretty safe and being able to talk
Glurp Glurp VOLK IS THE BEST Glurp Glurp... We should always base fights soley off the last minute of the fifth round and ignore the rest. He fought a guy he didn't have to cut weight, travel, or fly on a plane (it can absolutely affect your body) I know we only allow fighters we like to make excuses but these are the key points a lot of so-called fans are completely ignoring.
Agree with ur Rd 4 analysis... I think the distinction should be defining what 'control time' is... Islam had the body lock, but i wouldnt call it control time because Islam couldn't advance and Alex looked as likely to break loose as Islam looked to score damage or a submission, so it was more of a deadlock
The hardest strike on round 3 was basically an elbow that cut Volk. Listen on the commentary around (0:42) remaining on round 3, Volk's cut on the forehead was mentioned by Anik. Basically that round was Islam's if you base it on damage and power strikes.
Great vid...and I hate to be that guy... But I'm feein for that next chapter in your Jon Jones series when can we get that?? Or you waiting for the gane vs Jones fight to conclude?? Or you doing some boss hog shit and dropping it fight week?? Either way man love the content
Bad comparison imo, Sabatello wasn’t doing anything on the feet, Islam was getting the better of Alex on the feet in the rounds where he established ground control. Seems like people are willfully ignoring that islam won the match largely because of what he did on the feet, not the grappling.
@@mua2 It was a very close and very good fight. I think both men underestimated each other in their own strengths and I was amazed at Islam's success on the feet both here and against Charles when he won the title. I just think I could see it scored either way
Beige, I love all of your videos, I’ve watched them all multiple times, come back to them routinely once a year. You just have to train though and then you’d understand more about why having someone’s back in a body triangle for 4 minutes wins you a round rather than over the shoulder punches. It’s not JUST that he had Volks back, it’s where he had his back and for how long. If GSP takes you down and lays there for the whole round but you can’t get out, he wins. Volk couldn’t get out and the reason he didn’t just explode out is because of the fire consequences he was in. You have to understand these grappling positions and how Islam’s knee was cleverly jammed in between Volk and the fence… if Volk tried to turn into it he was trapped and could get choked and if he turned the other way, that’s how noobs get choke all the time.. so Volk was displaying his intelligence by staying there AND I DO give him credit for those strikes… but let’s say Islam held him there for 2 minutes… that’s 2 minutes of being mere moments from finishing the fight… then Volk maybe out pointed him the last minute of going crazy talking trash and throwing punches… but those points he scored for being the aggressor in that 1 minute is entirely outweighed by the fact that Islam had him in a near finish position for 3 minutes. That’s how you score fights guys… they’re 5 mins for a reason. You just score who “won” each minute and that’s who won the round. Objectively, Islam was winning going into the fifth. I was cheering so hard for Volk and has bet on him. But even I said out loud when the fourth ended “Volk needs a finish or a 10-8 to win” It just was what it was, it isn’t really that big of a debate or robbery. 49-46 is silly of course but like it’s not THAT egregious.
Exactly! Like Uncle Chael says, it goes back to the playground rules, if a guy punched you, took you down and was riding you for 3 minutes, you did not win that fight no matter what!
06:50 pretty sure Volk did...you have to understand his mindset and work ethic. The Dagestani guys don't share thier super secret techniques with the rest of the world like other disciplines so thats why people look so lost against them, but the great fighters of the era have taken bits and pieces that they learned while fighting them and incorporated it into their games and there's enough tape for a master to get a sense of what is coming and what to expect. Alex is a master, and he proved that in a fight that should have by all rights been considered a draw, but the UFC would never let that happen because the UFC hates genuine competition and it's fighters. it's why they let Tony Ferguson fight 4 months after a KO loss so bad that it was genuinely scary and it's clear he was terrified of further damage.
Idk about the "same size" argument because if Volk was the same size his skills would be possibly slower or different. I just can't get behind that argument and the fact that they said the pound for pound title was on the line. I just feel bad for Islam, he literally won nothing in this fight. I love your videos, might not agree completely but you are awesome!
I still have a hard time deciding how it would go if Volk was 5'10 with a 74" inch reach, his leverage from being stockier and shorter worked to his advantage in the grappling defense aspect. As a fellow fire hydrant I can say it does help keep control in takedown defense when you have lower center of gravity and shorter but stronger arms. So I think the fight would play out differently if he was more Islam's size
That’s a pretty massive “if” though. He trained, and fight’s specifically due to how his build is. ( Maybe, not as much as say Mike Tyson, or Wonderboy) The but if game, is just wild to play. And yeah, it’d be interesting. Though Islam has dismantled folks who are more similar to his build.
There is some truth in this. Volk's shortness definitely helped to some degree. On the other hand, I think a light weight sized Volk would also have a pretty substantial strength advantage. He would be a brick wall imo.
I agree that the grappling rules need to be reevaluated. I think we could use a very simple criteria. Control regardless of position should mean, you are doing what you want to do, your opponent cannot do what he wants to do. If the opponent is punching you repeatedly, and you can't stop him, it does not matter what position you are in, you are not controlling the fight.
So by your logic, Makachev still dominated the 4th, because Volk was stuck and couldn't do anything exept punching low power punches over his shoulder. He couldn't stop Makachev from controlling him.
@@t.s.p187 that is the opposite of my logic. Islam did not want to be punched. He could not stop volk from punching him. He was not able to make any serious submission attempts. That is not control. To make it clearer, imagine looping that part of the fight for 20 minutes. Islam's face would be ground beef and Volk would look no different. You should not get points for pure postion in MMA. Position in theory gives you better opportunity to do damage than your opponent. Being in the position is your advantage. You don't need extra points allotted for the position. In the rare cases where the opponent is outdamaging you from the bottom, you are not controlling him and you are losing the fight.
no my friend there is a differewnce when you are in the dominant position or in the submissive position in scoring. its the equivalent of jabbing in boxing, you are not attacking with your dominant hand and the jab is always there, should we score jabs different from straights and hooks by the main arm?
I'm pretty sure they score control which would mean Islam definitely won round 4. I was rooting for Volk and was super impressed but knew he didn't win that fight
Personally I think volk won, not by far but definitely. I get the argument of control time, but I think judges tend to score in extremes sometimes and i feel like they judged it almost like it was a wrestling match rather than mma, I don't know that you can just give a guy a ton of points for grappling exchanges where the person in bottom position is never in any real danger.
Forst thing about UFC is that judges constantly flip flop about control time and takedowns. For Petr Yan they mean nothing, for islam, ngannu and aljo they're enough to win, suddenly damage and strikes aren't most important, just make up your minds already so we can have clear rules
Well, WE have a clear scoring criteria. Problem is what you said, Consistency. They don't FOLLOW the criteria.
Fans and judges alike, don't realize that certain things outscore others, cancel them out. It's damage #1.
So IF damage is Equal, they move on..
Effective striking is equal, they move on the grappling. Then aggression, octagon control, control time, etc. But if a guy walks down his opponent the entire round, showing some effective striking, and octagon control, but then gets rocked and dropped in the last 30 seconds. Who wins that round ?
If the damage or striking impact is even then control comes into it more so, if it’s relatively even then control matters more. (I think yan won)
Also it’s different judges on different nights with different fighters, it’s never going to be consistent.
Yan sort of got screwed on the cards that night, but those same people saying he should have won; are saying Yan was Cheated out of the win vs aljo in the rematch. Fans only complain when thier favorite fighter doesn't win. Volk clearly lost that fight, stopping the takedowns and going on to lose in the striking exchanges to Islam means you lost the round. Islam then beats you on the feet and takes you down, has your back and is controlling you, and all you loand is pitter patter shots that don't help to improve postion, means you didn't do anything significant to win the round.
@@gilbertoflores7397 "Fans only complain when their favorite fighter doesn't win"
That's a very strong point that nobody is wanting to admit to
@@floatinggoose9197 also what people are doing, is wanting to hate on Islam. Or put him down, so they can't compare him to khabib, or make sure khabib is still on a pedestal for best.
They expected Islam to steamroll volk, so when it didn't happen like that, they want to give Volk more credit than he deserves. Volk definitely overperformed and did much better than everyone expected, but he still spent a large part of the fight on the wrong side of the grappling exchanges, even if he was able to stop a few take downs, and stay out of trouble on the ground, he was still put in those spots and when they were striking; Islam did better than him. Islam beat him cleanly, it was very close, but Islam did enough to get the decision.
I hate the era of immediate rematches. But this right here is a good example of needing one
Not when there's an interim title at FW, another near #1 contenders fight with Max vs Allen, and then Beneil on his streak.
It's fair to Volk only, but nobody else.
@@NateMulder Its not fair to the people who watch MMA. Rematch in July during Fight Week, and let Yair defend the title (he's on a 6 month suspension until cleared) against Max v Allen. Islam dont want to fight Volk, he's already talking about retirement.
@E43 youre wrong boyo, let yair fight whoever. volk can come back and fight the winner.
Yeah Alex again going down on the weight and then fighting at 155 .
Give dariush his shot immediately. I'll admit he hasn't fought yet but I'm pretty confident he's going to win.
I love how your drawing managed to capture Islam's sideways mouth despite it being at such an awkward angle to do so, your talents are truly unparalleled! 😂
Slack-jawed inbred IVslam
“There isn’t a clear contender at 155”
*Beneil Dariush would like to know your location*
Yeah everybody forgets about him.
@@out_of_orbit1968 He's very forgettable
Beneil impressed me big time against Gamrot. I didnt give him much chance coming off injury layoff
Hes not getting a title fight, literally no one cares about Beneil, he couldn't sell ppvs and fans would only watch his title fights if a bigger fight was after him and your forced to watch him cos he's co main.
Yeah Dariush has a better resume than islam did before his title shot.
Sorry this is so late. Some stuff got in the way as it always tends to do with the videos that are more time sensitive...
Yeah, usual excuse. Unacceptable.
Eh, the buzz isn't dead. That might've been the greatest fight I've ever seen and even people who aren't as closely following seem enthralled by it still
I think it's unfair to not follow through with the deal that was agreed upon. P4P on the line and Lightweight belt on the line. That was the deal. It's unfair that Islam took a massive risk and got nothing for it. Got disrespected and falsely accused of cheating. CKB showed their true colours, they are whiny sore losers.
Maybe some nice dish on the recent orange chicken revealed by a certain large homosexual feline? 👀
I subscribed for your other videos and forgot you cover the UFC also so this was a pleasant surprise.
Yo give my man Benny a title shot already!
He’s fighting Charles Oliveira in May. He should already be fighting for the title but got screwed because they put this match up together. I want Beneil to win against Charles so we can see him face Islam. Tough matchup for him, but he can get it done.
Fuck that. Rematch. The Islam fans are absolutely shitting themselves and don't want it.
@@mikeymouse3941 he didn't get screwed imo, fighting charles is the correct thing to do since fiziev is on a 6 fight win streak and is fighting gaethje. if fiziev beats geathje who is a big name and makes it exciting he would be riding a 7 fight win streak with a win over a big name in the top 5, and would even be ranked higher than beneil. if beneil chose to sit around they might easily give it to fiziev.
@@mw6836 Beneil is on an 8 fight win streak over better completion than Fiziev. He deserved the shot at Islam over Volk, but it is what it is. Fiziev doesn’t deserve it with a win over Justin Gaethje, at least not until the Beneil has fought Oliviera. If Beneil loses and Fiziev wins, then he would be next up. But if Beneil loses, he got screwed because he should’ve already gotten his shot at the belt.
@@TheScience69 lol I’m a Volk fan and I do think he would win a rematch, but it would be close. Sure, Islam gassed in the last round but it happens and it’s not like Volk will steam roll him. They both need to defend against fighters in their actual weight class. If they can do so, then I say run it back 3-4 fights down the line.
Wake up babe new beige frequency video
Wow the originality you have is astounding
@@Slickgary007 ok
@@Slickgary007 whoooooo caresssss
@@Slickgary007 no one asked
Glad this video finally came out, now I know what my opinions are on the fight
Great job bro. I was holding my breath hoping you'd bring up all the info and lo and behold you did.
Always thorough
The fight was great, but a 49-46 was crazy in my opinion
How? It's perfectly reasonable to give Islam 1,2,3,4. I'd even say that's more reasonable than 48-47 Volkanovski.
@@fifaelregala2610 no. just no.
@@fifaelregala2610 Under the old scoring guidelines, it'd be arguable... but maybe not reasonable, lol. But under the new guidelines, it's RIDICULOUS to give Islam 3 rounds when he did nothing with the position in one of them except to hold on and eat punches... which is exactly why the guidelines were changed to try to prevent dumbass judges from giving rounds to guys who just lay and pray (or hold back position and pray) while getting bombed by the active fighter that they are just holding.
@@linx4677 why? Just because you like Volk more. It's pretty clear the second-round strike was not a knockdown, and Islam hit him with the cleaner strikes. Round 3 is razer close and could go either way, but Islam landed more significant strikes and had more control time. Rounds 1 and 4 are clear for Islam.
@fifa el regala got nothing to do with me "liking volk more". Its just that there isn't a better argument for 4 rounds to 1 for Islam.
Always enjoy hearing your take. I also want to thank you for doing your due diligence and covering the IV subject accurately and with all available pertinent information. I've seen so many people cover this topic over the past few days and almost everyone leaves out some of the important details. For example, one of the big ones is that many people have been discussing the tweets and USADA response but fail to mention that the Australia commission doesn't even allow the small amount that USADA explained. You're always thorough and I appreciate that because knowing you covered it all here gives me confidence that if I'm ever listening to a subject from you that I'm not familiar with, I can trust that you're accurately explaining it and including all pertinent information. Too many lazy content creators and people who muddy the water and falsely represent certain things, and you're not one of them.
My thoughts exactly.
Y think he did his do diligence? well i have news for you: HE fkn didn't....he clearly failed to report that both Combat Sport Commission of Western Austrialia and Usada released a public statement already , Friday 17, clearing Makhachev of any wrongdoing , this guy here is just another hater pushing a false narrative designed to discredit Makhchev's win. Hardly an honest and fair "MMA journalist" it's just ridculous the amount of selective quotes this man put in the video, what i'll give him credit for it's that he's really really good at building a narrative choosing what information furthers his own(Volkanovski's camp) agenda; and gullible or biased fans thinks he's not the one muddying the water or misrepresenting things. This entire video's based on the unsubstantiated claims of a salty Dan Hooker, i like news based on facts ,not unproved/unprovable hypotheses.
Well said, this is why I love this channel
Yup so many people saw that interview and now just think team CKB must just have been lying but no investigation has actually been done and USADA will avoid looking into it unless obvious evidence shows up that would make them look bad
Seems like you didnt do any research either. Ali wasnt in Australia so his tweet is totally irrelevant. Also the athletic commission recorded the cage weights of both fighters and islam came in UNDER weight. Thats a fact. If he IV hydrated he must be terrible at it cause he came into the fight dehydrated. He was actually only 2lbs heavier than Volk. This is also played a factor in Islam gassing and being less durable as the fight went on.
Talent right here, man. In art and in video-making. Another entertaining production. Well done.
Beige Frequency, thanks for the upload.
in 2010 we called this "lay and pray" scoring
and alas its 2023 and you still havent hit the mats yet. we are waiting
@@lowlowseesee cope
@@lowlowseesee we get it. Islam is the same religion as you. Woooow 🙄
its funny bc once u said that it prompted me to look up john fitch on ufcstats then i FINALLY found someone with as nullish striking as islam (2 strikes out per minute, 1 strike absorbed minute), its wild, even khabib is literally double this
@@verycalmgamer4090 Well, that's not really cope since Makhachev won the fight. Still, it was a stupid comment from him. Unless he was trying to make a word play as in hit the mats like Muslims praying on mats, but also hit the mats like the guy can't wrestle and doesn't wanna hit the wrestling mat. That'd be clever, but I don't think he had the foresight for that one.
its wild i dont even watch these fights or anything but you gotta watch the new beige upload no matter what
You should watch the fights though! They're wonderfully entertaining.
Same, I enjoy MMA but not familiar with it at all. I just watch for Beige's style.
THANK YOU for how you articulated your thoughts towards the state of the"MMA Ruleset" and how the Fight played out. I agree 💯%
Perfect time for an upload 🍿
Love seeing you around the block lol
You're back! I've been watching Florida Man over and over waiting for a new video
Great video as always!
Rematch is a must ! But let yair and beneil have their shot first
What if Beneil takes the belt off Makhachev though? Wouldn't Volk be better off fighting him (regardless of whether or not he beats Yair)?
Nah rematch asap. This is a historical rivalry. If either lose the belt then the rivalry doesn't matter and the fight is ruined from a financial standpoint. However from a pure logic standpoint they should fight defend their belts adsp.
Great discussion on this highly contested fight and result,
Very well dissected and disseminated.
Now we need a video titled "Curious case of Drew Dobers preferred type of opponents"
Great insights and opinions, thank you!
You're on another level man 🙏
This is why I love your channel, man does the research!!!
Brilliant take mate 👍
Great vid
Excellent video and review.
About your question about round 4. You score it that way because one fighter is controlling the other fighter. If there were no judge to stand them up, the over the shoulder shots would never win him the fight, eventually the man controlling the other man will eventually end the fight.
You know this from the early mma events without time limits. At least IMHO.
There are also many cases where the fighter with controlling position, in attempting to advance to land ground and pound or a submission, loses that control. It's an unknown that can't factor in scoring the fight. We can only go off what actually happened, which was no damage or threatening submissions. That said, I gave the round to Makhachev. On a side note, it looked like Volkanovski landed a few of his over the shoulder shots on his own chin.
Thats only true if the person being controlled needs to invest energy in order for the position not worsen. But if the person controlling is the one wasting energy trying to get the finish, he will eventually have to give up the position
Love the work. I think it was a super interesting fight, but doubt we will see a rematch. I am pretty interested to see Islam vs Beneil if Beneil can get thru Charles. And interested to see Volk vs Yair.
That said, I am even more interested to see the Beige Frequency take on BGL crossing enemy lines and drone striking Brendumb with thiccc boy intel.
In regards to the P4P rankings a fair question might be why Makhachev was basically given Khabib's reputation just for being his protégé. It's not as if Islam has cleared out the 155 lb division.
Exactly what I took from this fight. Though I do believe he’s a more complete fighter than khabib, his IQ may be suspect.. So either Islam is overhyped or Volk is Batman with prep time.
Not even his protoge. They're like the same age more or less. Islam joined the ufc not long after kebab
@@TheScience69 That's a good point. Either way I look at Makhachev's record and see an impressive win over Olivera and then...what exactly? The win against Volk is nice but he's a featherweight. At 155 Makhachev's second most impressive victory is over a then 23 year old Arman Tsarukyan I guess?
@BiggieTrismegistus bobby greene at catchweight so doesn't even count, and Dan hooker who took the fight on short notice I'm pretty sure. It's just because kebab fled the sport, so all his fans are pretending he tagged Islam in on his career like that's how it works. They're all pretending that Islam has accomplished what kebab accomplished because they're friends. It was a joke everyone comparing his streak with volks lol. Not even close to equal level of competition. Islam was there the whole time kebab was, and no-one gave a crap until kebab left so they moved on to the next.
@@TheScience69 I've never read a more biased paragraph in my entire life💀
People always forgetting about Bj vs GSP 2, that was the first superfight
Pretty sure it was Fedor vs Co Cop. Or Randy vs Chuck, or a Chuck vs Tito, light heavyweight was the glamor division for a long time before the lighter weight guys got any attention.
@@gilbertoflores7397 I guess I'm considering a superfight as current champion of one weight class fights a current champion of another.
@@zachsawyer2067 I agree with you. GSP and BJ were 2 of the most skilled fighters ever, whereas the fights he listed were super popular fighters but nowhere near as well rounded. That was like the best PFP matchup that this fight was made out to be.
@@zachsawyer2067 Are you counting Pride? Because Dan Henderson vs Wanderlei Silva 2 was before Penn vs GSP 2.
@@BiggieTrismegistus Oh yea true true
Thanks as always.
Always love your ufc takes. Thanks for the input. Still don't know who I feel won this fight. Great fight.
Love u as always
The art is incredible as always!
Given what happened in their rematch, this case is closed.
So glad you chose this particular image. Makes me sputter with laughter every time I see it. 😂
Didn’t know you covered mma. I like it
Like many, I expect, I was looking forward to hearing your thoughts (and I was not disappointed). Thank you! 🙏🏾
Love this
the scoring base is on damage when it favours whoever the promotion wants to win but all the sudden were basing the fight on control this goes back and forth with whoever the promotion seems to be more "profitable"
It’s odd how they scored Brenner v Zukhugov (opening fight on early prelims)
It was consistent with how they scored Pimblett v Gordon
But both times I completely disagreed with the judges
I think they have very specific criteria that goes deeper than the 3 categories they mention
It's not based on damage though; it's based on "impact." Impact is an ambiguous term but damage is worse because it leads people to factor in things like cuts and bruises.
@@BeigeFrequency "Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponents’ energy, confidence, abilities and spirit." - Unified Rules
However, clinching your opponent against the fence and leaning on him, seems to be subjective in whether it can win a round.
@@miket4506 Shit, you got me there. Fair enough.
Great breakdown
Letsss goo new beige upload
i feel like the 4th round backpack argument should be looked at the same way the shevchenko vs santos fight was seen. even though santos was controlling shev, she didnt do enough damage as valentina did to fully get the rounds
Islam beat Volk on the feet for the first 1.5min before that, as explained. Even Volk said on Helwani that he lost the 4th. Valentina vs Santos was different. Santos didn’t win on the feet in those later rounds and when she did control her, she literally got zero offense off while Valentina was getting more damaging shots off than Volks pitter patter punches + Santos didn’t have her back for the same length.
I just rewatched the fight. Santos had Shevchenkos back for the last 1.5min of rounds 1&3. She was losing the first 3.5min of those rounds, but not by much. 2/3 judges gave her the first round and all 3 gave her the third round. The one judge that didn’t give her the first isn’t far fetched, in my opinion, as she was winning 2/3 of that round before getting her back taken, as opposed to Volk losing on the feet, and then, like i said earlier, she was actually punching Santos with her back taken and snapping Santos’ head back pretty good. 2/3 judges also gave her round 2, where she again was winning on the feet but spent like a minute with Santos on top. Santos literally did nothing with her top position, though. Valentina had her in full guard and was landing decent punches. Valentina won rounds 4&5 clearly and per all the judges. Volk clearly won the 5th and edged out the 3rd, but to argue he won anything more is a stretch.
I wish that penalty cards for stalling and other things were given. Rounds were 10 minutes and soccer kicks, stomps, etc. were legal.
*Accusing someone with no evidence. Your youtube name is very fitting. Super beige point of view*
*WTF are you talking about?*
@@BiggieTrismegistus look at the video thumbnail. It says mL4mL over Islam which stands for "millileter for milliter" referencing the IV
@@seanskywalka5172 Gotcha. I personally don't interpret that reference necessarily as an accusation. Just talking about the issue doesn't mean someone thinks Makhachev is guilty.
@@BiggieTrismegistus come on man. Theres not even a question mark after it. And then it should P4P over Volk. It's obvious that the guy's a salty Volk fan
@@seanskywalka5172 It's much you're a Makhachev fan just looking for things to whine about. Just like he does actually.
Thank yiu
Thoughts on Marg switching sides?
Love you Beige. What are your combat/MMA credentials?
100% agree with the holding / grappling someone shouldn't really count for much, if it doesn't amount to anything.
It did amount to something though. He put Volk in a position he couldn't escape. Instead of yelling at him he could've worked harder to escape. He didn't though because the threat of the submission.
@@lindseyormsbee That is where things get a bit murky imo. You can only score the control like that IF the effective striking/grappling was equal. It's priority based, not added. I think adding grappling control time to the criteria for effective grappling would clear this up, but I think it would also be bad for the sport.
@@lindseyormsbee 😊 no nh
PvP vs ml4ml still has me 🤣
Beige do you ever listen to Jack Slacks MMA stuff? If not I think you'd like it. Anyway love when you do MMA stuff. Good stuff
Yeah. I try to wait until after I've formed my opinions to watch Jack or the MK guys though.
@@BeigeFrequency Give the Heavy Hands guys a go as well. They are similar quality to Jack and well above MK imo
Great video as always, but I kind of disagree with the idea of an immediate rematch at 12:36 I think a rematch will hold up both the 145 and 155 division. Yair is next in line for 145 since he's the interim champ and at 155, the next contender should be Dariush. Guy is on a 8 fight win streak and just beat Gamrot.
the most sensible breakdown i’ve heard on the fight thus far. i agree 100
I think round 4 is a clear Islam round. He won on the feet before the takedown, and while he didn't damage Volkonovski, it's clear he was the one who was in a dominant position. To explain it as best as I can, Volkonovski was simply unable to move if he wanted to, while Islam could at any time. I also don't understand the missed strike analogy since, using that logic, any form of grappling is ineffective unless it causes a finish or tears a ligament.
Yeah, if someone is on your back, you're losing. You can't finish them from that position. The best you can do is force a stalemate, as Volk did, or escape.
His analogy is a complete fallacy. I’ve never heard such a terrible argument.
Taking the back is not effective grappling?🥴
How can we take this guy serious? He simply wants to change the rules because he didn’t like the outcome of the fight. Instead of being a professional and sticking to the rules. He gives his opinion to try to change the rules because he doesn’t like it.
To don’t like something is not an argument. Stick to the rules.
I can make up rules if things Volkanovski did.
I can make a rule that Volkanovski can’t stay in a position and holding the arm instead of trying to get up.
@@thetraffic849 yeah it was such a weird argument. I genuinely have no clue how anyone sane scored round 4 for Volkanovski.
@@fifaelregala2610
They don’t believe that. They are just frustrated. They are so frustrated. They have to invent new rules because they don’t like the outcome.
It’s not genuine. It’s pure frustration.
If Volkanovski had the back of Islam. They would be celebrating the whole week. They wouldn’t have any problem with it. He would have made hundreds of videos how impressive it is that Volkanovski took Islam back.
new beige yeahhhhhh!!!
I just found your channel bro 🙏🏼 is it you drawing as well?! Or do you work with an artist?
I'm a very casual UFC viewer. However the style you present and layout a topic manages to captivate my interest and care. Bravo and for old time sale #TeamBeige
At the time, I felt like volkanovski won rounds 2,3 and 5 but honestly, I have no idea how to accurately score this fight.
I always watch to the end just to hear Mike Robawls shout out
Damn bruh you gotta upload more frequently, I always forget about your channel man you make some great content
This fight shows the judging didn't get any better since the rule change , judging fights off damage is dumb and very very subjective, imo this fight should've been a draw or a ud by volk. The judge that gave a 49-46 scorecard should never be allowed to judge another mma fight ever again
Yes, I got some Beige. Just in time for the weekend!
1st to the plate. Love Beige Frequency thanks for the continuous top notch content
Seriously. Amazing art and great insight on the topics he chooses to cover. He only does things you can tell he really cares to make and it's great
Nice take as always.
I just wanna say that IVs play a huuuge role if that's the case. Talking from personal experience
Idk, Volk’s whole style is based of him being the smaller guy. Maybe he wouldn’t have done better if he was bigger.
Whenever you upload it’s a celebration
The fact I watch this only for your voice is wild like you could go into just art or just commentary and be fine. A man of many talents.
Haha awesome art man!
Dude, such an amazing fight! People are still debating the result online, and everything that has happened since then has only served to fuel the continued discussion. I can't wait to see Volk vs. Yair, but I also want Volk to run it back with Islam, and I really can't choose which fight I want more.
I think the Yair fight will be super interesting. I imagine Volk wins somewhat handily, but Yair is so flashy and such a unique fighter. Seeing a fresh matchup personally excites me
Makhachev performed far better in Volk's area of strength (standup) evidenced partly by the many times Volk himself acknowledged hard shots, than Volk performed in Makhachev's area of strength (the ground).
However, Makhachev definitely underestimated Volk which is partly why he didn't dominate like all his other fights. There should be a rematch & if so, I think Makhachev wins much more convincingly.
I think a rematch would favor volk. Knowing his wrestling is good enough to hold off Islam he can do more with the striking and put on a much more dominant performance
i dont know if you think youre talking highly about makhachev here but its way more insulting to say that islam undestimated his opponent and didnt took his training camp seriously than just admitting volk showed good defence on the ground.
Team Kreg for the 2nd place true victory! And I’m a competition noob, but to my understanding in most BJJ rule sets Islam holding Volk in a body triangle for minutes without advancing position or landing a sub would probably only count for the initial guard pass and pin, im not sure how the submission attempts would be ruled though but regardless in an MMA rule set I definitely favor Volk winning that exchange because he was resisting like the Spartans at Thermopylae while keeping himself pretty safe and being able to talk
Lol what are you even on about dude ?
Glurp Glurp VOLK IS THE BEST Glurp Glurp... We should always base fights soley off the last minute of the fifth round and ignore the rest. He fought a guy he didn't have to cut weight, travel, or fly on a plane (it can absolutely affect your body) I know we only allow fighters we like to make excuses but these are the key points a lot of so-called fans are completely ignoring.
He's the smaller guy 😅. You can't use "didn't have to cut weight" as an excuse when fighters cut weight to GAIN an advantage.
Loved this introspective look at the crazy fallout from the Volk Islam fight
Agree with ur Rd 4 analysis... I think the distinction should be defining what 'control time' is... Islam had the body lock, but i wouldnt call it control time because Islam couldn't advance and Alex looked as likely to break loose as Islam looked to score damage or a submission, so it was more of a deadlock
The hardest strike on round 3 was basically an elbow that cut Volk. Listen on the commentary around (0:42) remaining on round 3, Volk's cut on the forehead was mentioned by Anik. Basically that round was Islam's if you base it on damage and power strikes.
Great vid...and I hate to be that guy...
But I'm feein for that next chapter in your Jon Jones series when can we get that?? Or you waiting for the gane vs Jones fight to conclude?? Or you doing some boss hog shit and dropping it fight week?? Either way man love the content
You never disappoint my friend.
Absolutely correct about the scoring being a big issue and I felt it went the other way in Stots vs Sabatello during very similar rounds
Scoring is not a big issue.
He simply didn’t like the outcome and wants a change of rule to benefit his favourite fighters.
Yeah, It feels like every other fight people change their mind about this
Bad comparison imo, Sabatello wasn’t doing anything on the feet, Islam was getting the better of Alex on the feet in the rounds where he established ground control. Seems like people are willfully ignoring that islam won the match largely because of what he did on the feet, not the grappling.
@@mua2 It was a very close and very good fight. I think both men underestimated each other in their own strengths and I was amazed at Islam's success on the feet both here and against Charles when he won the title. I just think I could see it scored either way
0:39 11 fight win streak since Islam's last loss and Volkanovski a 12 fight UFC streak, but 22 if you count pre-UFC in that streak.
Beige, I love all of your videos, I’ve watched them all multiple times, come back to them routinely once a year.
You just have to train though and then you’d understand more about why having someone’s back in a body triangle for 4 minutes wins you a round rather than over the shoulder punches. It’s not JUST that he had Volks back, it’s where he had his back and for how long.
If GSP takes you down and lays there for the whole round but you can’t get out, he wins. Volk couldn’t get out and the reason he didn’t just explode out is because of the fire consequences he was in.
You have to understand these grappling positions and how Islam’s knee was cleverly jammed in between Volk and the fence… if Volk tried to turn into it he was trapped and could get choked and if he turned the other way, that’s how noobs get choke all the time.. so Volk was displaying his intelligence by staying there
AND I DO give him credit for those strikes… but let’s say Islam held him there for 2 minutes… that’s 2 minutes of being mere moments from finishing the fight… then Volk maybe out pointed him the last minute of going crazy talking trash and throwing punches… but those points he scored for being the aggressor in that 1 minute is entirely outweighed by the fact that Islam had him in a near finish position for 3 minutes.
That’s how you score fights guys… they’re 5 mins for a reason. You just score who “won” each minute and that’s who won the round.
Objectively, Islam was winning going into the fifth. I was cheering so hard for Volk and has bet on him. But even I said out loud when the fourth ended “Volk needs a finish or a 10-8 to win”
It just was what it was, it isn’t really that big of a debate or robbery. 49-46 is silly of course but like it’s not THAT egregious.
Exactly! Like Uncle Chael says, it goes back to the playground rules, if a guy punched you, took you down and was riding you for 3 minutes, you did not win that fight no matter what!
I am so stoked to see my coach Guram Kutateladze make his run toward the LW title. Also, hot damn has your drawing gotten good.
Who
@@usernotfound904 Check Mateusz Gamrot's first loss.
Who?
@@seanmatthewking Look at tomorrow's fight card.
Finally someone realizes what pound for pound means. It seems like everyone has forgotten what it means.
06:50 pretty sure Volk did...you have to understand his mindset and work ethic. The Dagestani guys don't share thier super secret techniques with the rest of the world like other disciplines so thats why people look so lost against them, but the great fighters of the era have taken bits and pieces that they learned while fighting them and incorporated it into their games and there's enough tape for a master to get a sense of what is coming and what to expect. Alex is a master, and he proved that in a fight that should have by all rights been considered a draw, but the UFC would never let that happen because the UFC hates genuine competition and it's fighters. it's why they let Tony Ferguson fight 4 months after a KO loss so bad that it was genuinely scary and it's clear he was terrified of further damage.
Thanx for the video, man. I also dig how your sketch accurately represented the inbred unibrow.
Idk about the "same size" argument because if Volk was the same size his skills would be possibly slower or different. I just can't get behind that argument and the fact that they said the pound for pound title was on the line. I just feel bad for Islam, he literally won nothing in this fight. I love your videos, might not agree completely but you are awesome!
Where's the Mark Harley vs Schwoob drama video?
You gonna cover BGL vs Bapa?
Man I hope so
What's your take on the whole Israel vs Alex 3-1 situation and Israel turning heel?
I still have a hard time deciding how it would go if Volk was 5'10 with a 74" inch reach, his leverage from being stockier and shorter worked to his advantage in the grappling defense aspect. As a fellow fire hydrant I can say it does help keep control in takedown defense when you have lower center of gravity and shorter but stronger arms. So I think the fight would play out differently if he was more Islam's size
That’s a pretty massive “if” though. He trained, and fight’s specifically due to how his build is.
( Maybe, not as much as say Mike Tyson, or Wonderboy)
The but if game, is just wild to play. And yeah, it’d be interesting. Though Islam has dismantled folks who are more similar to his build.
There is some truth in this. Volk's shortness definitely helped to some degree. On the other hand, I think a light weight sized Volk would also have a pretty substantial strength advantage. He would be a brick wall imo.
DJ and cejudo did a video about why islam failed to control volk. I think their video is a good breakdown on the wrestling aspect of the fight.
I disagree. Volk's cut to 145 is comparable to Islams cut to 155 and he still has insane endurance and pace in the later rounds.
I agree that the grappling rules need to be reevaluated. I think we could use a very simple criteria. Control regardless of position should mean, you are doing what you want to do, your opponent cannot do what he wants to do. If the opponent is punching you repeatedly, and you can't stop him, it does not matter what position you are in, you are not controlling the fight.
So by your logic, Makachev still dominated the 4th, because Volk was stuck and couldn't do anything exept punching low power punches over his shoulder. He couldn't stop Makachev from controlling him.
@@t.s.p187 that is the opposite of my logic. Islam did not want to be punched. He could not stop volk from punching him. He was not able to make any serious submission attempts. That is not control. To make it clearer, imagine looping that part of the fight for 20 minutes. Islam's face would be ground beef and Volk would look no different.
You should not get points for pure postion in MMA. Position in theory gives you better opportunity to do damage than your opponent. Being in the position is your advantage. You don't need extra points allotted for the position. In the rare cases where the opponent is outdamaging you from the bottom, you are not controlling him and you are losing the fight.
I went all in on PulseX too. Great choice bro. Check out Ben Kayge as well he’s another smart dude picking PulseX
It was such an awesome fight
I’m still laughing about that William Knight performance last night
no my friend there is a differewnce when you are in the dominant position or in the submissive position in scoring. its the equivalent of jabbing in boxing, you are not attacking with your dominant hand and the jab is always there, should we score jabs different from straights and hooks by the main arm?
Will you please make a video exposing mma Guru and the GuruSalem army kinda like how you exposed brenden shaub?
I'm pretty sure they score control which would mean Islam definitely won round 4. I was rooting for Volk and was super impressed but knew he didn't win that fight
Personally I think volk won, not by far but definitely. I get the argument of control time, but I think judges tend to score in extremes sometimes and i feel like they judged it almost like it was a wrestling match rather than mma, I don't know that you can just give a guy a ton of points for grappling exchanges where the person in bottom position is never in any real danger.
Has the 'Aussie Nurse' left for Dagestan too? Does the nurse exist beyond Hooker's tweet?
Don't blame Ali, he thinks a liter is 100ml, he thinks 1000 is called a "killaliter"
No wonder the FBI didn't think he was a reliable informant. He's not a double agent; he's just stupid.
You and Napoleon Blownapart are the top 2 creative forces on CZcams.
You guys should collaborate.