The Look Back Diaries Episode 87 with Mary Kate Wiles
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Watch The Lizzie Bennet Diaries: • An Understanding - Ep: 87
Subtitles (and opinions) by Sophie Lesher - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Ah the Cry Back Diaries. Exactly what we signed up for.
"We made tears, you made tears..."
Jane made tea 😂
I was one of the sisters Ashley heard from. I remember tearing up at a vidcon telling her how important seeing that scene was and how much it challenged me to really see my sister. Thanks for that episode ladies 💖
Thank you for keeping it light, it actually helped to rewatch this one without crying too much by just imagining MK shouting "It's a sex tape!" In a laundromat haha
This episode is probably my favorite one in the series. My favorite line is when Lizzie says, "I'm sorry I wasn't there before. I'm sorry I didn't understand, but I love you." I'm tearing up just typing it. It's the sort of thing I think a lot of us wish we could hear from our families--not just love and care, but those things paired with an acknowledgment of having done wrong. The immediate problem is Wickham's fault, but Lizzie has hurt Lydia too, and it's so cathartic to hear her acknowledge that.
KITTY BENNET!!! 😻😻😻
I think all of us look back at work we did 10 years before and think we could do better, which means we've grown and that's good. But know this: you both hit us right in the feels in such profound ways it's been 10 years and we still feel it.
I also had the same reaction to realizing that this is also the "everyone deserves tea" episode. Y'all just crammed every emotion you could into this episode.
“Everyone deserves tea!” is a sentiment so full of grace and love. Which is what Lizzie is now also giving to Lydia.
some of the bet acting ive ever seen, i always think im not going to cry but when lizzie holds lydia and just repeats that SHE loves lydia and that she is sorry for not seeing her lydia is just soooobbing into lizzie’s arms and you just see this release of emotion- it’s maybe more satisfying than episode 98 because it’s so real to what i think everyone needs to hear about being loved and accepted (when mk’s voice cracks at why didnt he love me, i love him, that part just KILLS me)
Every time. It's that line. Why didn't he love me? That just destroys me
Finding out the comments Lydia listed off were written before those episodes even aired was mind-blowing. Because a lot of the comments really were like that. Watching it was heart-wrenching. And if I remember right, it was a pivot point in the comments section. Like the anti-Lydia people had either been won over or shamed into silence.
Where is Rosie's IMdB page? Girl deserves the credit!
My facebook memories ten years ago today have the "everyone deserves tea" quote, like even teenage-me knew this one was a keeper. I go back to it every couple of months and always find something new in it. It has, quite literally, saved me. Thank you both for looking back on it so compassionately.
Still making me cry ten years later too!!
Same
It was a nice change that Lydia comes through ok. I remember having to read the novel in a British Literature class in college, and hated how awfully Lydia ended up so oblivious to how much she hurt her family and will end up in rough straits, such as when she writes Elizabeth when she hears she's marrying Darcy "hey hook us up with a nice position".
I just realized that this aired in 2013, and 4 years later, I was myself in an abuse situation and like Lydia, I didn’t see it until someone pointed it out to me and did what Lizzie did: showed me the love i couldn’t give myself to get out.
The fact that I cry during this episode every time is a testament to Mary Kate's use of authenticity and genuine emotion in her acting. Ashley complements her performance with great reaction work, creating a synergy in storytelling with an excellent script that allows the audience to completely suspend disbelief and believe in the reality of the moment instead of admiring the acting performance. Good work. It is the magic of acting.
Kitty!
def tear up at this one every time. I believe my first viewing of this also resulted in an "I love you" text to my lil sister, with no context for her.
I loved the discussion about how while you would do things differently now, what you did then was perfect for this show; that is such a good and accurate way of looking at it. It's been extremely rewarding watching you both grow as actors (and producers) over the past decade, but rewatching LBD never feels like, "Aww, look at baby Ashley and MK"; it feels like "Ashley and MK killing it as always." Still furious that y'all didn't get the money and acclaim you deserved for this, so I also want to echo the call to join both Ashley's and MK's Patreons!
Me watching this right before bed thinking, it's okay, they're going to be talking over it, I'm not going to cry. Of course I'm crying right now as I type this. I understand wanting to do things differently ten years after the fact, but for what it's worth, you and MK did a fantastic job.
I know you’re always gonna have opinions about your own acting, but genuinely for me the acting in this episode is staggeringly good. I think yous said something about “letting go” while you were watching and I could really feel that. It was like they both -finally- stopped performing for the camera and got every last thing out that needed said, and with like an urgency as well because it was so long overdue. Also shout out to Laura last episode with her stare at the floor as she said “He made his choices and his choices hurt people”. It looked like Jane was having to really strain to stay composed. Just, great stuff all round ❤
I've mentioned it before in comments but this episode was so important to me and my sister. Also I am so here for the inappropriate jokes. My friend and I got a cake after our (separate) grandpas died that said "dead grandpa club!" Sooo
How do we convince DFTBA Records to re-stock LBD merch for the Look Back Diaries/10th anniversary? I’m getting FOMO for merch I didn’t buy a decade ago. 😂
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I tried to find a copy of the DVD version soon after Look Back Diaries began and it was only available on Amazon for like $100! :(
When the watch back ends I judt notice my eyes are just covered in tears. They've been quietly welling even with you guys talking over. One of the best things I've ever seen and I think so transformative for me. I was nineteen when I first watched it (in 2016, years after it finished) and I'd never seen this experience represented. Mary Kate does just let herself go and it is so powerful. It's given me a love of Lydia that has stayed with me through all of it.
I'm the youngest of my siblings, so I don't have the situation where I was a Lizzie. But I've watched it with friends and it took us hours to get through the arch. Just stopping and crying. Processing.
I think I've watched the series ten or eleven times and yet it still feels cathartic.
Same, I was sobbing by the end of the watch back.
Thank you both for this. Thank you for your insights and lightness in the face of the sad nature of the story. I’ve been watching the episode before your commentary and this one never fails to make me cry you were both so incredibly in touch with your characters. Also loved the Kitty Bennet appearance!
Brave! Brave! Even muted and with voice-over your amazing acting made me cry. Of course the writers deserve praise for bringing the story to such an emotional high (low?) point as well.
I think this may be my favorite episode because of the tangible love expressed between the sisters here. There are a million romantic love stories, but not so many familial love stories, certainly of this intensity.
Ugh this is so good, because it’s so sad. In the purest sense of the word
On an unrelated note, I’ve just realised I’m pretty sure this show is 60% of the reason I have had red hair for the last 6 years? (With 40% from Hayley Williams)
The way I also thought about LOTR right before Mary Kate made that comparison, it’s a good one. Thought I could make it through this one without crying, tears still came. But that’s the power of what you two brought to it. I appreciated the laundromat story for holding off the emotion for a bit. Protect Lydia Bennet always.
This is the first time I am rewatching this after the end of a long and very unhealthy friendship and while it wasn't as drastic as what Lydia went through, there were definite similarities to the situation and somehow I am feeling even more sympathetic to Lydia than before. Considering this friend was one who also watched this show with me, this is an interesting time from that standpoint 😅
I also have definitely quoted Everyone deserves tea in more than one fanfic I have written (not even for this fandom! 😂)
I really appreciate what you both said about how this project happened right when it needed to- too many of us artists want to put off certain projects until we’re “better,” but this attitude is such a game changer
I think this is my favorite episode. The emotion is so real and so at the surface, after this long of investing in these characters you can't help but feel everything right along with them.
i still full-on cried even while listening to your conversation over the video and only half-reading the subtitles 😅
not even mk's laundromat sex tape story helped haha
There are many things to love about the P&P adaption 'Fire Island', but this is definitely where you feel the biggest difference. The scandal there is similar, but definitely not given the emotional weight and care that we get here.
Yeah, I think that's probably my only major critique of that version.
Ah, the first time I watched this is fully engraved in my brain. 2014. Watching it in my flat, crying in that shocked, oh God why-kind of way.
I knew Mary Kate Wiles was great before this episode. It cemented me as a life long fan.
Watching this one Valentines Day and definitely not a good choice 😢
I also forgot this was the everyone deserves tea episode! I used my mug for years till the design faded off. Hats off to you both for this episode - I still sobbed so much the other day watching it despite knowing exactly how it goes! I think what LBD did with the Lydia/Lizzie relationship and arc is something really special.
First! Thank you so much for doing these!
ten years later, and i'm crying again
I know I watched LBD super late, but were there really more negative comments about Lydia than about Collins? Or Caroline? Or George?? MKW deserves tons of credit for putting up with that. I thought Lydia was portrayed perfectly!
(Fwiw I do love how those other three are portrayed as well, but the characters themselves seem so much more hatable than Lydia.)
Oooof! This is still hard to watch, even with the talking over the top. I feel like I should look away, or watch through my fingers, because it’s too private and personal.
I think the fact that it’s uncomfortable for everyone involved, actors and audience, is a testament to the great writing. This shouldn’t be an easy experience.
Nope, still cried even with the jokes. You both were and are phenomenal. (Jane too). Breaks my heart every time
It's been a long while since I last rewatched LBD, because life, but this episode is permanently ingrained in my brain. And even encapsulated within The Look Back Diaries: yup. Cried. A lot.
So, a job well done?
Not gonna lie, I tend to skip this one on rewatches cause it makes me cry every time
I know that Lydia is 21, definitely considered as an adult, but she always felt so young. Even when I was younger than her and watching the show I always thought of Lydia as a child. And now being older than her, being Lizzie’s age with younger sisters close to Lydia’s age all I can think of during this episode is that Lydia’s just a baby. She just wanted to feel loved and she never deserved anything that George did.
this episode is truly the only thing that makes me cry every time I watch, you guys all did so amazing, its heartbreaking but like in the best way possible
Speaking as an English lit student...this series is ostensibly better written than Pride & Prejudice. Granted, P&P has a more elaborate, elegant vocabulary. But LBD has better character growth for most characters. The development of Lizzie's friendship with Charlotte, Lydia's personality shift and arc, the theme of sisterhood, reasoning behind Caroline's vindictiveness...it is all executed superbly. I regret to say it, but LBD's writing and characters make P&P look flat and one-dimensional.
That’s blasphemy.