I've got the II 6.5x21 and I absolutely love them. For the rather low price they are of great quality. They work nicely for butterflies, flowers and insects. Because of their light weight and compact size they are easy to chuck into a backpack when I don't want to carry my heavier and more expensive birding binos with me. Nothing annoys me more than seeing something interesting and not having any binos with me!
Bought the 6.5 x 21 Papilio about 11 years ago. I use the Papilio all the time for birds and butterflies, while my B&L 8x42 sit on a shelf. The small size, sharp focus and close focus of the Papilio have won me. I use the Papilio all the time for birds and butterflies, while my B&L 8x42 sit on a shelf. Just ordered a new pair of the 8.5x21.
Hi Thomas, could you help me with this question? I would like to know which ones do you consider better for birding: the 8.5 or the 6.5. I'm looking for a gift for my girlfriend, and i think these are perfect, i'm just wondering about the right magnification, because she uses binos mostly for birdwatching. Thanks for your help!
Just ordered a pair of Pentax Papilio binoculars and after watching your review I'm even more confident I've made a good choice. I really enjoyed the video and look forward to viewing a lot more,many thanks again.
Greetings, it shows that you are a professional in the field of optics and specifically in binoculars, your description is also very complete and you do not leave out the smallest detail to explain. I have these same binoculars and I love them and I wanted to ask if you know of any other brand of binoculars of this type, with ultrashort focus, precisely because I am a biologist and it is very important for me to use them as a Stereoscope. !!!
Thank you. This was a very useful video for me. A friend had shown me their Pentax Binoculars and I wanted a bit more information before buying a pair. I now definitely will get some. They will perfectly complement my heavier (and expensive !) Zeis binoculars I use for birdwatching. I was keen to get a compact pair to put in my bag when heading out for a walk …something lightweight and small but not compromising on quality. These seem to fit the bill perfectly. Thanks . Sue, New Forest, UK
Hi Sue, Glad it was helpful - many thanks for the feedback and I agree, it is great to have a compact to compliment a full sized bino - in fact I would say that I probably use my compacts more than any other binocular I have. So I think it is a good idea.
Hi Neil, Thanks for the comment and you are welcome - These are a great little set and perfect for your intended use. Enjoy - also feel free to return and reply with your thoughts once you have had time using them.
Well we bought two pairs of these binoculars and all i can say is wow.These are fabulous compact binos that open a whole new world of nature watching with their ultra close focusing.Also more than capable for general bird and wildlife,overall they are a fantastic buy.Can't really fault them on anything for the price,nice clear optics and a pleasure to use.
Hi Jason ! I didn't know anything about binoculars, but I just watched some of your videos and liked it a lot. Even though I don't understand english very well, I subscribed and I will watch your other videos.😎 Bravo pour ta chaîne, elle est super ! 👏👏👏
Hi Demetrius, Thanks for the feedback and kind words - I would love to know how you feel about the binoculars once you have had a chance to use them for a while. All the best. J
I own the 6.5 pentax. I love it for close-up objects. But over the last year my hobby has evolved and now I am more into bird watching and feel they're not sufficient to get the birds sharp enough to see every detail. Also they do not perform ad good as I had wanted in a bit greyish weather. I am now going to buy one for birding, but for insects and flowers I will definitely continue using those. My eyes seem to be fairly close to eachother and as you mentioned, this bino is great in that regard. I agree with you about the flip being too short when you always use the binos wit the eye cups twisted up. Thanks for this video 😊.
Loved this review and the one you write up, looking to get my first ever pair of binoculars and I like the close up focus capabilities. Do you think there will be another version of these released in the next couple years?
Hi, Im looking for binoculars just to have incase i need it, and you seem like the right person to ask, i was looking at the Carson RD 10x42, should i get this one or is there a better one around that same price?
Hi, I think you have made a good choice with the Carson RD Series as for me it is certainly one of the best value for money binoculars within this price range ($50 - $130 / £50 - £130) that I have ever tested: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/CarsonRDSeries8x42BinocularsReview-185.htm - other similar options would include the Hawke Nature-Trek Binoculars www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Hawke8x42Nature-Trek-133.htm and the Celestron Nature DX www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Celestron8x42NatureDX-119.htm or if you want a compact, definitely check out the Pentax Papilio II 8.5x21 www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Pentax-Papilio-II-85x21-Binoculars-Review-286.htm or Vortex Vanquish 10x26 Binoculars: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Vortex-Vanquish-10x26-Binoculars-Review-249.htm - but as I say, the Carson is an excellent option at this price.
Enjoyed your review. I bought a pair of the 6.5s after a friend got one, and that was before I even learned about the close-up focus. I'm wondering about getting an 8.5 too, like the one you reviewed. But as I look around online, most people (even those who own both) end up preverring the 6.5. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Hi there, thanks for the comment and question. Sorry for my delayed reply. To answer it, it largely depends on how or what you mostly use them for. Bigger is not always better and as you say, many people prefer the lower power version. For most general uses, I agree, you get a larger exit pupil making them easier to use and for a brighter view. You also get a wider view and a ore stable image. So unless you often look at longer distances, I can agree the 6.5 would often be my choice.
Hi - I may do so yes, if I get time - my full review of the Fujinon HC 8x42 Binoculars is on the BBR website though: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Fujinon-HC-8x42-Binoculars-Review-284.htm
I’m an (amateur) wildlife photographer and I’m sick of using my camera and lens for spotting. Too heavy and awkward. Recently I’ve started using an old pair of Bresser 10x50s we had around the house for many years and it’s much handier than using the camera. I’ve decided to invest in a decent pair of binoculars in the €100-€150 range (not very expensive but should suit my needs). I’m trying to decide between either Celesteon Trailseekers or Nikon Prostaff 3s’. I trust Nikon glass because my camera is Nikon but the Trailseekers seem well equipped having a magnesium chassis etc. Some of the other options (Hawke, Vortex etc.) seem to be priced much higher in Europe than in the US. Between the two I mentioned, what would you recommend? Or should I look at a different pair? Waterproof is important because I’m in Ireland and it rains. A lot.
Hi David, thanks for the question, which I totally get as I used to use my telephoto lens for long-distance, but have found it much better to also have a binocular with me even though it is bulkier to do so. As for recommendations, as I am sure you have read my review, I think the Celestion Trailseekers offer excellent value for money ( www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Celestron8x42Trailseeker-140.htm ) - although if you can stretch it a little more, the Celestron TrailSeeker ED's are an improvement: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Celestron-TrailSeeker-ED-8x42-Binoculars-review-253.htm - as for the Nikon Prostaff 3s - I can's say too much as I have not used them, but as you say I am sure in terms of optics they will be as good as or better than expected at this price range - however with camera brands, I often find that some details like the accessories to wanting when compared to binocular specific brands. Other ideas include the Bresser Condor which really impressed me and look and perform way better than their price tag suggests: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Bresser-Condor-10x42-Binoculars-Review-240.htm - hope this helps
@@Bestbinocularsreviews So, in the end I ordered a pair of Celestron Trailseekers in 8x32. I was debating the Bressers or the Trailseekers ED in 8x42 when I stumbled across a great deal on Amazon. The Trailseekers in 8x32 for £82. It was the older version in green instead of black in the photos. But I thought it was too good to pass up so I ordered them. When they arrived, they were actually the newer, black versions. They feel very solid and nicely made. They’re a nice size in hand. Optically I’m very happy with them. They’re brighter and sharper than I had expected. Now that I’ve had a few days with a “decent” pair of binoculars, I can see myself nvesting in more down the line. Thanks for the advice 👍
Curious! Would you consider these for watching horse races? Or would the kowa YF II to be better? Which would you buy? Obv I will use your links so you get credit. I read your site and am torn between these two. Unless you have another recommendation that's under $200. If you have the time... Thank you. Also would the 6x30 be better?
Hi Mike, yes most certainly - these small Pentax binoculars are very versatile, and whilst I'm no expert on watching horse racing, I do believe their main characteristics would make them suitable for this. If you want to watch the horses right out from the gate (at a distance) and in more detail, then I would probably opt for the 8.5x version as its field of view is still very wide and as I say, you will get more detail. The Kowa YF II series would also be a good choice, a little bigger to carry about, but perhaps also a fraction better in low light - which may be something to think about if you watch horse racing in places like Hong Kong (I think that is where they have night racing?) :-)
I would definitely go for the 8x. I bought my 6x and like horse racing but mainly bought them for birds, insects, churches, galleries and museums (great for studying minerals etc). I went for 6x as I thought, being compact, images would be much brighter. However, I think 8x would be much better for distant birds and, especially, horse racing. I don't find 6x good for the latter when the horses are on the other side of the course. Too far away. Image is bright on 6x so I don't think light would be an issue at 8x in normal daytime use. Great binoculars but I'd have chosen the 8x if I had my time again as a better all rounder.
Thanks for the video! I'm torn between this set and the Pentax VM 6x21 both of which you've rated quite highly. I hope you don't mind me asking your advice. My wife and I will be sharing whatever we get for hiking to look at nature and wildlife in general. Since we will be sharing it, the monocular seems like it may have fewer settings to adjust when we switch back and forth, as well as take up less space in our daypack. That being said, I really like the short focal range of the Papillion and the fact that they are 8.5x. The microscope function on the VM 6x21 seems kind of cool for our small child, but also maybe gimmicky and I'm not sure I would bring along the macro stand while hiking. How much real-world use did you get out of that? Another thing is my wife is blind in one eye so having binoculars would only be beneficial for me. Which do you think would be the best for our use case? Even if you don't answer, thank you for the video and honest reviews on your website!
Hi Nathan - firstly thanks for the kind words and the question. To answer it is tough as you are right, I really like them both! I do occasionally use the microscope function - like you it is mostly with my daughter - You can use the microscope function without the stand - I sometimes just sit on the ground and balance what I want to see on my knee. However like a tripod and powerful binoculars, the stand makes it much better to get a good view. Having said all that - if it was me and I could only pick one, I would probably go with the Papillio - as I say it is one of my all time fav binoculars - Great price, great image quality and super versatile and whilst you don't get the detail of the microscope, you can still get excellent views of small critters / flowers at close range. I know this will not benefit your wife, but I also just prefer the more immersive view you get from binoculars over a monocular. I could muddle your choice further by suggesting you also consider the Pentax VD 4x20 WP Binocular & Monoculars www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Pentax-VD-4x20-WP-Binoculars-Monoculars-Review-278.htm - this will make it easy to share and use at the same time! But whichever you go for - I would say you'll be happy they are genuinely are all great compact devices. I hope this helps - please do let me know which you eventually choose.
@@Bestbinocularsreviews I really appreciate the response. I think we're going to end up buying both and picking which one we want to include in the daypack and use the other for our backyard. I got the VM 6x21 at a deep discount online and will be keeping my eye on the Papilio for when it goes on sale or one pops up on Amazon warehouse. Thanks again for your in depth reviews that helped me choose!
Hello, great video. May look at getting one of these reverse porro prisms. Look kinda funky! I saw there was a vortex pair too. Which do you think is better?
Hi, thanks for the kind words and yes, I like compact reverse porro prisms as well and yes you are right, Vortex makes some - I have a review of the Vortex Vanquish 10x26 here www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Vortex-Vanquish-10x26-Binoculars-Review-249.htm which I really like and is certainly a low cost compact binocular that i would highly recommend - as for better, I have to say that overall I still slightly favor the Papilio as it offers a little more in terms of flexibility with it's incredible minimum focus distance and build quality.. however it is a little more expensive so that is understandable.
I am an looking to purchase a class set of binoculars like these for my 4th grade elementary classroom to observe insects with. Which binoculars would you recommend, the Pentax Papilio II 6.5 x 21 or 8.5 x 21?
Hi Gabriel, I think either would be a great option, but I would personally lean towards the wider view and more stable image that the 6.5x Papilio would offer your kids.
If you had choose between Hawk frontier ED X 8x32’ Zeiss Terra ED 8x32 or Steiner Sky Hawk 40 8x32 I’d love to know which one you would choose as an optics expert and the reason why ?
Hi Demetrius, thanks for the comment, but to answer that in just a few lines would be not right as there are many, many factors to consider and choices to make depending on your preferences. I can research and go through it all with you and am happy to do so, but obviously this takes my time - if you are interested - the details on how you can "hire me" are here: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/blog/questions-answered-binocular-advice/
Hi Mark I feel you should go with the 6.5, that is plenty of magnification for close range use. I am sure you will get great views with this super little binocular - please let me know how it turns out as this is a use that I had not thought of.
Hi Carolyn, I do have an article with reviews and suggestions on the BBR website: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/cruise-ship-binoculars.php - this should help you - if you are still unsure after going through it, feel free to get back to me.
Hi - If you can get Nikon to send them to me I would love to! - I have been trying for many years to get Nikon to send me binoculars, but without success!
Is there any reason you never do any reviews of some of the quality porro prism binos, Swarovski Habicht, Nikon EII, SE, maybe even some older semi vintage examples, Zeiss, Leica. Some of these porros match the quality of the roofs for half the price. That would very interesting and informative. Thank you for all the great information, well done.
Hi Paul - sorry for the late reply - your question slipped through the net - anyway I think the main reason is there are only so many reviews I can physically do - from testing, research, using out in the field, photography, video graphy and then writing the review, reach takes me over a month to get through and I currently have about 5 that I am working on concurrently at the moment! Alos it all depends on which brands I can get hold of and who are willing to send me a sample - perhaps some are just scared to get my opinion on their devices ;-)
@@Bestbinocularsreviews thank you. there are always people who want to think whatever they bought or have are the best. So we run into that issue on any optic reviewed. There also seems to be differing opinions on many reviews of the same optics. You had high praise for the GPO’s (which I agree with it) yet a few others didn’t rate them so high. Each optics maker has to make their own compromises in their designs to reach what they are trying to,achieve. Many reviewers will harp on those compromises. Obviously Porros have there compromises as well. I’ve tried some of the ones I mentioned & currently waiting on a 8x30 Habicht Swaro I ordered. There is something missing you could say with the roof design when comparing to a quality porro. DOF, immersion are two qualities that they excel at.
I have spent hours reading thru your site - it is my go-to source for info. Thank you so much for the effort you put it into it. I've been looking to get a pair of Vortex Diamondbacks 10x42 but they have been on back order for ages, and i'm about to lose another season. These look like they'd cover my at home and out in the wild viewing instead of my broken 10x50s, esp as often birds disappear and I'm left with insects as my main targets. But I'm puzzled by the Ricoh box, did Ricoh buy out Pentax?
Hi, thanks for the comment. I am not sure of the exact details, but as far as I know, Ricoh bought Pentax in 2011, which if I am not wrong was previously owned by Hoya , another Japanese company who make very high end optical glass for cameras, binoculars, microscopes etc. As for the Vortex Diamondbacks - for the money they are great for sure - but there are other option you could go for - check out my page on great performance to price binoculars for some inspiration :-) www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/binoculars-best-value.php
@@Bestbinocularsreviews Thanks for the info. The big problem for where I am, Greece, is that there is restricted availability, even without COVID. Most non cheap binocs are special order here and dearer compared to other countries. So it's a case of taking the chance that you'll be ok with them. Same risk ordering blind from somewhere else in Europe with availability plus added risk of damage in transit. Might eventually be worth me finding a super cheap flight to Germany or similar and buying from there!
@@Bestbinocularsreviews Based on your review, I took the plunge and went with these. Despite being "in stock" I had to wait almost a month, greatly heightening my anticipation! I'm well pleased with them. The FOV is much smaller than what I'm used to (10x50s) but I''ve adjusted to that. They are razor sharp but the focus depth is very shallow; luckily I have a lot of microscopy experience to rely on for getting focus quickly. They are super light to carry for just having on you, ready in an instant. They also fit perfectly in the front pouch of my LowePro 450, with plenty of room to spare. A wonderful companion for walks out, and fabulous for looking at details of flowers and insects without having to bend down. Thank you for your continued excellent reviews, you really do provide great info based on real use, for all budgets, without any hidden agenda.
Where are these made? That's a major question I have with everything I buy but most people never answer these days.. My Pentax Cameras were made in Vietnam before Ricoh took over but I have seen some of their Binoculars being made In China.. I try and stay away from China and usually find companies selling similar products in other countries with better human rights.. (like Sony making lots of items in Malaysia, Canon in Japan and Olympus Imaging in Vietnam)
I've got the II 6.5x21 and I absolutely love them. For the rather low price they are of great quality. They work nicely for butterflies, flowers and insects. Because of their light weight and compact size they are easy to chuck into a backpack when I don't want to carry my heavier and more expensive birding binos with me. Nothing annoys me more than seeing something interesting and not having any binos with me!
HI, First comment! ... thanks for sharing your experience and why you like the Papilio, which mirror a lot of my own thoughts on them
You can tell The amount of thought and pure dedication in the making of Those binoculars . Definitely worth a hi review, well done .
Hi Robert - yes, that is for sure and the fact that Pentax have managed to keep the price at a reasonable amount is impressive.
Bought the 6.5 x 21 Papilio about 11 years ago. I use the Papilio all the time for birds and butterflies, while my B&L 8x42 sit on a shelf. The small size, sharp focus and close focus of the Papilio have won me. I use the Papilio all the time for birds and butterflies, while my B&L 8x42 sit on a shelf. Just ordered a new pair of the 8.5x21.
Hi Thomas, could you help me with this question?
I would like to know which ones do you consider better for birding: the 8.5 or the 6.5. I'm looking for a gift for my girlfriend, and i think these are perfect, i'm just wondering about the right magnification, because she uses binos mostly for birdwatching. Thanks for your help!
I am on the other side, I got the 8.5, and in a search for the 6.5. Did you got both? How do they compare?
Just ordered a pair of Pentax Papilio binoculars and after watching your review I'm even more confident I've made a good choice. I really enjoyed the video and look forward to viewing a lot more,many thanks again.
Greetings, it shows that you are a professional in the field of optics and specifically in binoculars, your description is also very complete and you do not leave out the smallest detail to explain.
I have these same binoculars and I love them and I wanted to ask if you know of any other brand of binoculars of this type, with ultrashort focus, precisely because I am a biologist and it is very important for me to use them as a Stereoscope. !!!
Thank you. This was a very useful video for me. A friend had shown me their Pentax Binoculars and I wanted a bit more information before buying a pair. I now definitely will get some. They will perfectly complement my heavier (and expensive !) Zeis binoculars I use for birdwatching. I was keen to get a compact pair to put in my bag when heading out for a walk …something lightweight and small but not compromising on quality. These seem to fit the bill perfectly. Thanks . Sue, New Forest, UK
Hi Sue, Glad it was helpful - many thanks for the feedback and I agree, it is great to have a compact to compliment a full sized bino - in fact I would say that I probably use my compacts more than any other binocular I have. So I think it is a good idea.
Great video,will be purchasing these to take on hikes due to their size and close focusing.Thanks for the info.
Hi Neil, Thanks for the comment and you are welcome - These are a great little set and perfect for your intended use. Enjoy - also feel free to return and reply with your thoughts once you have had time using them.
Well we bought two pairs of these binoculars and all i can say is wow.These are fabulous compact binos that open a whole new world of nature watching with their ultra close focusing.Also more than capable for general bird and wildlife,overall they are a fantastic buy.Can't really fault them on anything for the price,nice clear optics and a pleasure to use.
You definitely got my thumbs up! Excellent review on both CZcams video and written one on webpage ;-) Cheers!
Awesome, thank you!
Great review as always. Thank you!
Hi, my pleasure and thanks very much for your comment. It's much appreciated 👍
I can now see expiration dates on my salad dressing!
Thank you Jason for the very interesting and comprehensive video! Like always, you got my thumbs up! 👍
Hi and many thanks to you for the feedback, thumbs up and kind words - Much appreciated!
Hi Jason !
I didn't know anything about binoculars, but I just watched some of your videos and liked it a lot. Even though I don't understand english very well, I subscribed and I will watch your other videos.😎
Bravo pour ta chaîne, elle est super ! 👏👏👏
Hi thanks very much! It means a lot to me! Perhaps the next one I will try and speak in my very bad French :-)
Great video I bought these binoculars because of this great review
Hi Demetrius, Thanks for the feedback and kind words - I would love to know how you feel about the binoculars once you have had a chance to use them for a while. All the best. J
really lovely and in depth, especially considering it's not a 'premium' product. torn between this one and kenko miyabi now xD
An excellent review. Thanks very much!
You are welcome and many thanks for the feedback - much appreciated
I own the 6.5 pentax. I love it for close-up objects. But over the last year my hobby has evolved and now I am more into bird watching and feel they're not sufficient to get the birds sharp enough to see every detail. Also they do not perform ad good as I had wanted in a bit greyish weather. I am now going to buy one for birding, but for insects and flowers I will definitely continue using those. My eyes seem to be fairly close to eachother and as you mentioned, this bino is great in that regard. I agree with you about the flip being too short when you always use the binos wit the eye cups twisted up. Thanks for this video 😊.
Hi you are welcome and many thanks for the feedback and yes, I do feel this is a great little binocular for sure
Loved this review and the one you write up, looking to get my first ever pair of binoculars and I like the close up focus capabilities. Do you think there will be another version of these released in the next couple years?
Hi, Im looking for binoculars just to have incase i need it, and you seem like the right person to ask, i was looking at the Carson RD 10x42, should i get this one or is there a better one around that same price?
Hi, I think you have made a good choice with the Carson RD Series as for me it is certainly one of the best value for money binoculars within this price range ($50 - $130 / £50 - £130) that I have ever tested: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/CarsonRDSeries8x42BinocularsReview-185.htm - other similar options would include the Hawke Nature-Trek Binoculars www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Hawke8x42Nature-Trek-133.htm and the Celestron Nature DX www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Celestron8x42NatureDX-119.htm or if you want a compact, definitely check out the Pentax Papilio II 8.5x21 www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Pentax-Papilio-II-85x21-Binoculars-Review-286.htm or Vortex Vanquish 10x26 Binoculars: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Vortex-Vanquish-10x26-Binoculars-Review-249.htm - but as I say, the Carson is an excellent option at this price.
Enjoyed your review. I bought a pair of the 6.5s after a friend got one, and that was before I even learned about the close-up focus.
I'm wondering about getting an 8.5 too, like the one you reviewed. But as I look around online, most people (even those who own both) end up preverring the 6.5. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Hi there, thanks for the comment and question. Sorry for my delayed reply. To answer it, it largely depends on how or what you mostly use them for. Bigger is not always better and as you say, many people prefer the lower power version. For most general uses, I agree, you get a larger exit pupil making them easier to use and for a brighter view. You also get a wider view and a ore stable image. So unless you often look at longer distances, I can agree the 6.5 would often be my choice.
Hello! Vortex vanquish or pentax papilio? Wich has a better image quality?
Would we be seeing a review video on the Fujinon HC binoculars in the future?
Hi - I may do so yes, if I get time - my full review of the Fujinon HC 8x42 Binoculars is on the BBR website though: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Fujinon-HC-8x42-Binoculars-Review-284.htm
@@Bestbinocularsreviews It was a good read thank you :)
I’m an (amateur) wildlife photographer and I’m sick of using my camera and lens for spotting. Too heavy and awkward. Recently I’ve started using an old pair of Bresser 10x50s we had around the house for many years and it’s much handier than using the camera. I’ve decided to invest in a decent pair of binoculars in the €100-€150 range (not very expensive but should suit my needs). I’m trying to decide between either Celesteon Trailseekers or Nikon Prostaff 3s’. I trust Nikon glass because my camera is Nikon but the Trailseekers seem well equipped having a magnesium chassis etc. Some of the other options (Hawke, Vortex etc.) seem to be priced much higher in Europe than in the US. Between the two I mentioned, what would you recommend? Or should I look at a different pair? Waterproof is important because I’m in Ireland and it rains. A lot.
Hi David, thanks for the question, which I totally get as I used to use my telephoto lens for long-distance, but have found it much better to also have a binocular with me even though it is bulkier to do so. As for recommendations, as I am sure you have read my review, I think the Celestion Trailseekers offer excellent value for money ( www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Celestron8x42Trailseeker-140.htm ) - although if you can stretch it a little more, the Celestron TrailSeeker ED's are an improvement: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Celestron-TrailSeeker-ED-8x42-Binoculars-review-253.htm - as for the Nikon Prostaff 3s - I can's say too much as I have not used them, but as you say I am sure in terms of optics they will be as good as or better than expected at this price range - however with camera brands, I often find that some details like the accessories to wanting when compared to binocular specific brands. Other ideas include the Bresser Condor which really impressed me and look and perform way better than their price tag suggests: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Bresser-Condor-10x42-Binoculars-Review-240.htm - hope this helps
@@Bestbinocularsreviews Thank you. I hadn’t even considered Bresser even though I was alway happy with the cheap Bressers we’ve had over the years.
No problem at all - let me know how it goes and which pair you settle on.
@@Bestbinocularsreviews So, in the end I ordered a pair of Celestron Trailseekers in 8x32. I was debating the Bressers or the Trailseekers ED in 8x42 when I stumbled across a great deal on Amazon. The Trailseekers in 8x32 for £82. It was the older version in green instead of black in the photos. But I thought it was too good to pass up so I ordered them. When they arrived, they were actually the newer, black versions.
They feel very solid and nicely made. They’re a nice size in hand. Optically I’m very happy with them. They’re brighter and sharper than I had expected. Now that I’ve had a few days with a “decent” pair of binoculars, I can see myself nvesting in more down the line.
Thanks for the advice 👍
Curious! Would you consider these for watching horse races? Or would the kowa YF II to be better? Which would you buy? Obv I will use your links so you get credit. I read your site and am torn between these two. Unless you have another recommendation that's under $200. If you have the time... Thank you. Also would the 6x30 be better?
Hi Mike, yes most certainly - these small Pentax binoculars are very versatile, and whilst I'm no expert on watching horse racing, I do believe their main characteristics would make them suitable for this. If you want to watch the horses right out from the gate (at a distance) and in more detail, then I would probably opt for the 8.5x version as its field of view is still very wide and as I say, you will get more detail. The Kowa YF II series would also be a good choice, a little bigger to carry about, but perhaps also a fraction better in low light - which may be something to think about if you watch horse racing in places like Hong Kong (I think that is where they have night racing?) :-)
I would definitely go for the 8x. I bought my 6x and like horse racing but mainly bought them for birds, insects, churches, galleries and museums (great for studying minerals etc). I went for 6x as I thought, being compact, images would be much brighter. However, I think 8x would be much better for distant birds and, especially, horse racing. I don't find 6x good for the latter when the horses are on the other side of the course. Too far away. Image is bright on 6x so I don't think light would be an issue at 8x in normal daytime use. Great binoculars but I'd have chosen the 8x if I had my time again as a better all rounder.
Thanks for the video! I'm torn between this set and the Pentax VM 6x21 both of which you've rated quite highly. I hope you don't mind me asking your advice.
My wife and I will be sharing whatever we get for hiking to look at nature and wildlife in general. Since we will be sharing it, the monocular seems like it may have fewer settings to adjust when we switch back and forth, as well as take up less space in our daypack. That being said, I really like the short focal range of the Papillion and the fact that they are 8.5x. The microscope function on the VM 6x21 seems kind of cool for our small child, but also maybe gimmicky and I'm not sure I would bring along the macro stand while hiking. How much real-world use did you get out of that? Another thing is my wife is blind in one eye so having binoculars would only be beneficial for me.
Which do you think would be the best for our use case? Even if you don't answer, thank you for the video and honest reviews on your website!
Hi Nathan - firstly thanks for the kind words and the question. To answer it is tough as you are right, I really like them both! I do occasionally use the microscope function - like you it is mostly with my daughter - You can use the microscope function without the stand - I sometimes just sit on the ground and balance what I want to see on my knee. However like a tripod and powerful binoculars, the stand makes it much better to get a good view. Having said all that - if it was me and I could only pick one, I would probably go with the Papillio - as I say it is one of my all time fav binoculars - Great price, great image quality and super versatile and whilst you don't get the detail of the microscope, you can still get excellent views of small critters / flowers at close range. I know this will not benefit your wife, but I also just prefer the more immersive view you get from binoculars over a monocular. I could muddle your choice further by suggesting you also consider the Pentax VD 4x20 WP Binocular & Monoculars www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Pentax-VD-4x20-WP-Binoculars-Monoculars-Review-278.htm - this will make it easy to share and use at the same time! But whichever you go for - I would say you'll be happy they are genuinely are all great compact devices. I hope this helps - please do let me know which you eventually choose.
@@Bestbinocularsreviews I really appreciate the response. I think we're going to end up buying both and picking which one we want to include in the daypack and use the other for our backyard. I got the VM 6x21 at a deep discount online and will be keeping my eye on the Papilio for when it goes on sale or one pops up on Amazon warehouse. Thanks again for your in depth reviews that helped me choose!
Hello, great video. May look at getting one of these reverse porro prisms. Look kinda funky! I saw there was a vortex pair too. Which do you think is better?
Hi, thanks for the kind words and yes, I like compact reverse porro prisms as well and yes you are right, Vortex makes some - I have a review of the Vortex Vanquish 10x26 here www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/Vortex-Vanquish-10x26-Binoculars-Review-249.htm which I really like and is certainly a low cost compact binocular that i would highly recommend - as for better, I have to say that overall I still slightly favor the Papilio as it offers a little more in terms of flexibility with it's incredible minimum focus distance and build quality.. however it is a little more expensive so that is understandable.
@@Bestbinocularsreviews thanks for the reply 👍. Great detail on the website
I am an looking to purchase a class set of binoculars like these for my 4th grade elementary classroom to observe insects with. Which binoculars would you recommend, the Pentax Papilio II 6.5 x 21 or 8.5 x 21?
Hi Gabriel, I think either would be a great option, but I would personally lean towards the wider view and more stable image that the 6.5x Papilio would offer your kids.
If you had choose between Hawk frontier ED X 8x32’ Zeiss Terra ED 8x32 or Steiner Sky Hawk 40 8x32 I’d love to know which one you would choose as an optics expert and the reason why ?
Hi Demetrius, thanks for the comment, but to answer that in just a few lines would be not right as there are many, many factors to consider and choices to make depending on your preferences. I can research and go through it all with you and am happy to do so, but obviously this takes my time - if you are interested - the details on how you can "hire me" are here: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/blog/questions-answered-binocular-advice/
8.5 or 6.5 for watching my aquarium? I want to see detail that my eyes cannot anymore.
Hi Mark I feel you should go with the 6.5, that is plenty of magnification for close range use. I am sure you will get great views with this super little binocular - please let me know how it turns out as this is a use that I had not thought of.
Please just tell what you suggest for Alaska cruise? For instance watching bears, whales. Thank you
Hi Carolyn, I do have an article with reviews and suggestions on the BBR website: www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/cruise-ship-binoculars.php - this should help you - if you are still unsure after going through it, feel free to get back to me.
Please do a review on zoom version of this...
Please review Nikon Monarch 7 8x42
Hi - If you can get Nikon to send them to me I would love to! - I have been trying for many years to get Nikon to send me binoculars, but without success!
Is there any reason you never do any reviews of some of the quality porro prism binos, Swarovski Habicht, Nikon EII, SE, maybe even some older semi vintage examples, Zeiss,
Leica. Some of these porros match the quality of the roofs for half the price. That would very interesting and informative.
Thank you for all the great information, well done.
roofs rule.... they render poorly, but that's the landscape
Hi Paul - sorry for the late reply - your question slipped through the net - anyway I think the main reason is there are only so many reviews I can physically do - from testing, research, using out in the field, photography, video graphy and then writing the review, reach takes me over a month to get through and I currently have about 5 that I am working on concurrently at the moment! Alos it all depends on which brands I can get hold of and who are willing to send me a sample - perhaps some are just scared to get my opinion on their devices ;-)
@@Bestbinocularsreviews thank you. there are always people who want to think whatever they bought or have are the best. So we run into that issue on any optic reviewed. There also seems to be differing opinions on many reviews of the same optics. You had high praise for the GPO’s (which I agree with it) yet a few others didn’t rate them so high. Each optics maker has to make their own compromises in their designs to reach what they are trying to,achieve. Many reviewers will harp on those compromises. Obviously Porros have there compromises as well. I’ve tried some of the ones I mentioned & currently waiting on a 8x30 Habicht Swaro I ordered. There is something missing you could say with the roof design when comparing to a quality porro. DOF, immersion are two qualities that they excel at.
I got a pair of these for $20 Canadian in mint condition owner said she only used them twice! Great binoculars and the close up feature is incredible!
Why almost all binocullars are more sharp in the center of the image ?
Similar to human eyesight.
I have spent hours reading thru your site - it is my go-to source for info. Thank you so much for the effort you put it into it.
I've been looking to get a pair of Vortex Diamondbacks 10x42 but they have been on back order for ages, and i'm about to lose another season. These look like they'd cover my at home and out in the wild viewing instead of my broken 10x50s, esp as often birds disappear and I'm left with insects as my main targets.
But I'm puzzled by the Ricoh box, did Ricoh buy out Pentax?
Hi, thanks for the comment. I am not sure of the exact details, but as far as I know, Ricoh bought Pentax in 2011, which if I am not wrong was previously owned by Hoya , another Japanese company who make very high end optical glass for cameras, binoculars, microscopes etc.
As for the Vortex Diamondbacks - for the money they are great for sure - but there are other option you could go for - check out my page on great performance to price binoculars for some inspiration :-) www.bestbinocularsreviews.com/binoculars-best-value.php
@@Bestbinocularsreviews Thanks for the info. The big problem for where I am, Greece, is that there is restricted availability, even without COVID. Most non cheap binocs are special order here and dearer compared to other countries. So it's a case of taking the chance that you'll be ok with them. Same risk ordering blind from somewhere else in Europe with availability plus added risk of damage in transit. Might eventually be worth me finding a super cheap flight to Germany or similar and buying from there!
@@Bestbinocularsreviews Based on your review, I took the plunge and went with these. Despite being "in stock" I had to wait almost a month, greatly heightening my anticipation! I'm well pleased with them. The FOV is much smaller than what I'm used to (10x50s) but I''ve adjusted to that. They are razor sharp but the focus depth is very shallow; luckily I have a lot of microscopy experience to rely on for getting focus quickly. They are super light to carry for just having on you, ready in an instant. They also fit perfectly in the front pouch of my LowePro 450, with plenty of room to spare. A wonderful companion for walks out, and fabulous for looking at details of flowers and insects without having to bend down. Thank you for your continued excellent reviews, you really do provide great info based on real use, for all budgets, without any hidden agenda.
Where are these made?
That's a major question I have with everything I buy but most people never answer these days..
My Pentax Cameras were made in Vietnam before Ricoh took over but I have seen some of their Binoculars being made In China..
I try and stay away from China and usually find companies selling similar products in other countries with better human rights.. (like Sony making lots of items in Malaysia, Canon in Japan and Olympus Imaging in Vietnam)
Pentax Cameras are assembled in Philippines, not Vietnam. I have cameras from ist Ds to KP
Thanks for this great review.
My pleasure and thanks for the feedback - much appreciated :-)
Great review! Thank you!
Hi Sergey - many thanks for the feedback and kind words - much appreciated