Actually, that would go to Oathkeeper/Oblivion (or vice-versa, or singular) for they give you TWO keyblades, and each have their own unique first form (light\dark) and two unique transformations. With the double keyblade form being so badass 🎮🕹️💜💯
@@CherikoSol uhhhhh howabout "Dual-wielding" supremacy?! Easily Trumps storm flag. Just with its shotlock alone (a freaking galaxy firing entire stars at an opponent?!) I'd go even as far to say dual wielding trumps over Ultima! 💯
Ever since The Lingering Will, seeing a Keyblade take on another form has always been an amazing idea. Better late than never, I love KH3 for letting Sora do the same. I just REALLY love TLW.
I love the concept yes but I wish they would’ve included different types of forms not the same transformations with a color swap. The key blades were they actually crafted a unique shape or ability were the best ones in KH3
Well not just that, but stats don't matter as much, as you can increase them, and you have 3 slots for keyblades. This means you can run a less than optimal keyblade for most encounters and have 2 fully transformed ones in reserve for the boss, a strategy i used quite often, usually with the kingdom key as the one i run around with for it's singular transformation, making it more justified to let run out after fights, and giving me 3 different limits at the end, allowing for adaptability. Honestly i hope they further expand upon this with more single stage key blades and even some 3 stage one's, like say ot goes from base, to first form, second form then third, changing the moveset on each stage. Perhaps we could unlock stuff to further extend the time in saod stages, with a side quest reward for infinite form gadge, like the infinite magic one in kh3.
I only wish we could get both keybkade forms *and* drive forms. Or at least something that changes your normal combat feel, like synch blade from valor or telekinetic swinging and mid attack gliding like final form.
You can, there’s a way using items and animation cancels. Just look it up. You can buy a ton of panaceas since they’re extremely cheap. It adds a layer of skill to the gameplay.
Honestly, I really love the keyblade system in Re:Coded. I know the game has it's issues, but in terms of keyblade mechanics it was my favourite. You had to level up the keyblades to unlock more abilities and skills, and they gave each keyblade so much variety and it's individual playstyle.
Did you not see the teaser for Kh4? Where Sora is able to do advanced formchanges like Terra? It’s very clear you need to be extremely powerful to be able to do stuff like Terra since no one else really does it to that extent or that often. We saw exactly the level of formchange that Sora was at. Just because you would have liked more doesn’t mean it wasn’t explored as much as it needed to be at the time. They showed us his future potential by showcasing Terra’s abilities.
Keyblade Transformations are cool, I just hated that they were blocked behind situation commands. If it was more meter based like Devil Trigger or KH2 Forms so I can use them freely on the fly, I would've loved them even more than forms.
If it was a DT system, they'll probably have a shared DT pool, but the way they are now, you can activate 3 of them simultaneously with each having a separate cooldown. You can freeze the current cooldown by switching to another keyblade. So what I did throughout my playthrough was use a keyblade till I get the transformation, switch, use 2nd keyblade till transformation, do the same with the 3rd, then now you have 3 transformed keyblades together and you can switch between them essentially making them like the style switching in DMC. Worth noting that in Critical mode, you have 2 exclusive abilities that make the transformations way better: * Critical Recharge - Your situation command gauge will fill faster while your MP is recharging. * Critical Converter - Attraction commands no longer appear, and instead filling your command gauge will always result in a form change (keyblade transformation).
There are no greater Keyblade transformations than those of the X-Blade. I really hope we get to use it and its transformations in KH4 as the game's Ultima Weapon.
@@johnpantag472 There are a lot of people arguing about it actually. There are some that say that the X-Blade is gone because it's connected to Kingdom Hearts and that once one is gone the other one follows. I myself argue against that, since it is shown that Kingdom Hearts does not appear at the same time as the X-Blade and that it has to be summoned separately. Then there is also the fact that the Master of Masters is clearly targetting Sora in Quadratum for some reason, a reason which could very well be the X-Blade.
Keyblade Transformations are the best compared to Drive Forms, but I still want to activate my forms on command instead of relying on RNG and building up arrows.
It’s not RNG lol, it takes the same amount of damage to activate the situation command for it every time. You can activate them on ‘command’ by activating the form change before a major fight and swap to another keyblade since forms are stored when they’re not being used… It’s effectively the same system as a drive gauge my dude. But instead of waiting for enemies to drop orbs that slowly tick up the drive bar, you’re doing damage and ticking up the formchange bar at a consistent rate, which is WAY more intuitive for fluid combat.
@TheSCPStudio It is not the same system at all. It's the Command Style system from BBS, not Drive Forms. They are mechanically different and one takes away choice and resource management from the player to encourage "freebies" The sheer amount of situation commands thrown at you for free Za spells/Form Changes/Team Attacks/Attractions is absurd and honestly it's either ignorance of how game design works or disingenuous to claim they are similar
@@TheSCPStudiolmao bro sit your ass down. It is rng. If you use magic through your combos you might get grand magic instead of a form unless you play on critical mode. Also the form commands have countdowns.
@@DaniNyoMHwhat you said is true. I hate how some of these "fans" defend their dumo design choices. It's clear that Disney out their hand on kh3 to make it more accessible for a broader audience with the flashy attacks.
A small price to pay for the amount of them we got. Even then, I think the differences between the different Drive Forms attached to the same Weapon is good enough for me.
@@aguywithgames3135 I think having unique transformations with each form would have been better, so it could incentivize combat exploration… instead of having the same combos over and over. The forms in 3 are too bare bones to even be called “forms”… They don’t exist to give you an advantage, they exist to break early game exploration.
@@D.W.M.T.Y.A.W._CheckAbout_ That’s kind of asking for a lot, considering the *_thirteen_* (including Base Form + two more with OKP/OBV) weapons you could wield for the base game… And to call the forms in 3 “bare bones” when they’re essentially the Drive Forms mixed with the Command/Link Styles is just… well, IDK how to describe it, but I heavily disagree. And your last line is pretty confusing, does that not sound like gaining advantages?
That’s why I really loved Recoded! It gave options for Keyblade use. It had unique abilities and didn’t really affect stats, except their abilities of course. Kh3 keyblades, though had stats, the keyblade transformations balanced it out AND many stats closely resembled each other
Don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion or not but I always preferred formchanges to drive forms; they’re functionally similar, with small groups of each transformation being part of one “form” (with the exception of second, light, dark, double, and ultimate) but the transformations do a lot more to alter your moveset, Wisdom Form and Final Form changes things a lot, but the rest just felt like buffs. Furthermore, it’s a lot harder to cheese fights as you can’t enter a battle with a form already charged up like in KH2, you have to do enough in the fight to earn the formchange. Also, there’s no more random chance Antiform, another plus!
I agree. I love having 3 Keyblade Transformations of my choosing on standby and even if a number of the form changes are similar to one another, I still love the diversity and some of the stuff you can pull off with them. Like skating around after switching from the Blizzard Claws Form Change, or creating clones with Mirage Staff with the finisher resembling KH2 Trinity Limit, or preforming extremely fast and snappy combos with the Light, Dark or Double Forms, or just using a giant Frying Pan against enemies. Also, this doesn't relate to utility, but I'm glad that abilities like Double Flight and Glide are no longer locked behind Drive Forms. As much as I love Drive Forms and while I do think they have overall more diversity considering that each one feels different in both combat and magic, constantly grinding so that you can have access to the best version of your growth abilities (Which you need to get through the Cavern of Remembrance) is pretty tedious and annoying.
see other keyblades still kinda fall short once you get the ultima weapon and oblivion and/or oathkeeper since their forms are busted and have the highest damage when fully upgraded
Seeing the kind of crazy stuff people can do with the Form Changes in the Data Battles will never not be entertaining to me. I love both Drive Forms and Form Changes, but I think I slightly prefer Form Changes. Even if the diversity isn't as high. From the fast combos of Double Form, the Nostalgic Second Form, the Hyper Hammer that's great for Crowd Control, and the stylish and fluent Mirage Staff and Arrow Guns, I just find them really enjoyable to use, and I love the fact that you can upgrade your Keyblades as well.
I personally from a gameplay perspective prefer soras form changes i find them more enjoyable to use From gameplay standpoint i do prefer kh2 forms From a lore ish perpective i much prefer the keyblade transformations
The thing I noticed about Drive Forms and Formchanges is that Sora has to use his teammates (save for Limit Form) to activate his Drive Forms and is at risk of activating Anti-Form against his will. Formchange, on the other hand, doesn’t require Sora to fuse with anyone and can activate Rage Form at will.
Nailed it. Essentially, he doesn't need the power of his friends, and is actually using his OWN power to bring out these transformations. Essentially, his mastery over the keyblade 🙏🎮🕹️🫂💯
I'd like the ability to level up keyblades, it'd basically just make it so that all keyblades are basically near same damage wise so you can just pick your favorites
Tbh I dont like keyblade transformations. They kinda take away from the power fantasy of being a keyblade wielder imo. They are cool on their own but I prefer swinging the keyblade, not a giant hammer, not claws, not a pair of yoyos or guns or a spear. Im here to use a keyblade lol I do think the keyblade upgrading system is really cool tho and I hope it stays
Oathkeeper/Oblivion Will be the best keyblade transformation, in any of the series. Was definitely my favorite in 358/2 days, but KH3 took that a step further by giving them each their own unique (first) forms, with the final attack in "double form" being THE best final attack (Not to mention the amazing KHU\x shotlock) 🙏🎮🕹️💜💯
Isn't the best in the series. It's not even greater than Limit form, or even Final Form. Double Form isn't even better than base Roxas even in combo modifiers.
i’m very very happy to see another fan mention anything about dream drop distance, shows he played it :)) a lot of controversy on that game for some reason
For me I wish they would have kept drive forms or something I’m not a fan of the key blades transforming. The whole draw of the key blade for me is the fact that it’s a giant key I think it kind of defeats the purpose when it transforms into a different weapon.
I do wish Keyblade transformations worked more like how Drive Forms worked in KH2, so you had to work more for it and couldn't pull it off literally every combat, be it boss or random encounter.
I mean drive forms were way more peak than keyblade transformations IMO. Nothing hit like final form. Even the 4th level spells I feel like are more indicative of growth and visually striking than keyblade transformations.
At first I hated keyboard transformations over drive forms but after Replaying kingdom hearts 2 and 3 I can say key blad transformations are better they offer more variety and abilities to the game sometimes it’s even hard to pick my favorite transformations now
Yeah, but then the problem comes that there’s no need to use any other weapon if all weapon can essentially do the same job. You just pick which is your favorite animation
hard disagree here. the transformations are fun to use and look great but on critical way too dangerous to use cause of their long attack animations. i loved the drive system much more. dualwielding keyblades was amazing and getting rid of it was a huge bummer for me. and yes, i know you can dual wield with a specific sword but it's locked behind dlc and critical difficulty.
In my opinion, Formchanges was an improvement compared to Command Styles and Drive Forms. The downside of Formchanges though, some of them have 2 of the same thing and you can't activate them on command. But other than that, Formchanges have more variety as opposed to Drive Forms. In my opinion, KH3 may not be THE best game in the franchise, but it's nowhere near the worst game in the franchise.
@@TheSCPStudio I must've forgotten because it was a long time since I played KH3 or used any Formchanges besides Second, Light/Dark, Double, and Ultimate forms (which are my favorite/Go-To Formchanges in the game).
Unfortunately they acted more as command styles, than actual Keyblade Transformations. Kh2 and Re:Coded have the ability based systems we love in KH games, and 3 DOES do that which is lovely. However the forms associated with each Keyblade Transformation, feel like as if someone decided to make Zero Sugar versions of each available drive form. The only improvement, was Rage form over anti. THAT is a genuine buff that I can appreciate from three. Rage Form isn’t the worst. Guardian is. The main issue I have with Keyblade transformations, not to dissuade your argument, is that we had only iirc the guns/launchers, the hammers/drills, claws, shields, ice blade skates, yo-yos, a lance/flag, and after that it’s like… pseudo drives after that. I mean.. Second Form (and its variants), Rage Form, Everafter’s Elemental Form, Light Form, Dark Form, Dual Form, Nanomachine’s blitz form, Ultimate Form… those all feel very drive-y… but as I said, zero sugar. I have an issue with it, that we can’t exactly mix and match and utilize whatever unique form with whichever unique transformation… we’re given sets of 2s. And essentially told to break the game’s exploration before the second to last encounter sets before the game ends. I hard agree, concept wise they were cool and MUCH needed since LW was what showed how far they could go early on. But now, we really can’t do much aside from using the “oh this is red hammer, this is yellow hammer” or “this is blue guns, these are yellow guns”. Just, a teensy gripe. TLDR; Good argument, however it’s limited beyond the idea of it.
Honestly my only criticism with these transformations is that the _act_ of transforming not only does more damage than the combos or after effects themselves {possibly due to the transformations counting as a tick to both combo boosts but resets after the pause} But more importantly you get _zero_ i frames. Got stuck in ansem's mega dark ball of destruction and darkness and death doing a transformation? TOO BAD, PREPARE TO DIE
Imo KH1 was just progression based which felt really good, which wasn't the case in kh3 because of upgrades but you had more build freedom so I guess it's just personal preferences as always
@Dr.AvenVon I don't think so. You have to build up a limit meter for each one. And each keyblade has unique properties. I'm using the Tangled keyblade and it's useful for healing. Etc...
@Dr.AvenVon The Frozen one has 2 transformations and utilize different skill sets. The Monsters Ink one is also a 2 step one. The Olympus Keyblade has longer reach and has a block function once you build it up Etc... Take the time to mess around with the keyblades and you see it changes combat alot
@@KrazyStargazer yes, keyblades have differen transformations. but in the end, they play exactly the same, just different animations. the olympus shield is unique, yes. but most other (again, MOST) play exactly the same.
I like keyblade transformations, I just want them to be tied to a gauge like drive forms. So it's more tactical if you use them and not just, hit them activate hit them even more
How is it not tactical? The form doesn’t go away when you don’t have the keyblade equipped. So just activate the form prior to whatever fight is happening and then switch to it whenever you want to during that fight???
@@TheSCPStudio that's true I mean I was switching them too. But what I really meant was the emergency aspect. If your low on health and have no MP you can still use drive form recover everything and get some extra damage too. With keyblade transformations you don't recover anything, just better attacks and in some even really good defense abilities. So you end up always using them, which isn't bad but you lose the emergency aspect, the on a clutch recovering when almost dying. I mean leave keyblade transformations in but give us at least 1 or 2 different forms to use at a last resort. Keyblade transformations probably then need to be nerfed a bit with their damage output, but I still think it would be fun with even more combat options.
The keyblade transformations were all pretty ugly tbh with few exceptions, the main reason why keybladed were more usable in KH3 is because you can upgrade every keyblade, drive forms are peak
Keyblade transformations are truly the worst thing since fighting lingering will without slapshoting drive forms was the greatest thing ever introduced in kingdom hearts and they should've added on to them
@@TheSCPStudio oh look someone played the franchise a couple of months ago and tries to play it smart on someone who has been playing it since day one. You ain't that guy bro
Damn how thed the skeleton key from skyrim get into kingdom hearts🤔 (I know its a fummy joke guys also if you dont get it its because the skeleton key from skyrim could unlock more then well normal locks canonically like a soul or in this case to me a transformation of itself to make it a weapon that unlocks victory or to a complete new dimension also im super fummy i know).... .. ..... ..... .. . ....
Gameplay is boring though. If you got any enemy without retaliation built into it, you simply keep pressing „X“ and you’ll juggle the enemy into the Air where no other enemy can hit you. It’s so boring I dunno what happened in between KH2 and KH3 but whatever it was, it was a *MASSIVE* step in the wrong direction
I love the mechanic. However I did not love the story aspect that it was never explained how Sora got this power, I’m just saying that the Lingering Will fight is canon and they could say it’s from that fight in which Sora learns the ability to do it.
I mean I’m pretty sure there just what remains of his drive forms since the keyblade transformations combine with drive forms And remember that his powers were all over the place since he was almost turned into Xehanort
The form change is inherent in the keyblade itself from the moment they use it. You don’t get new keyblades, you get new keychains, which are what alter the keyblade forms. Sora’s been witnessing form changes since the very beginning.
@@TheSCPStudioyou just proved his point. They never explained where he got them from. If they are tied to the keyblade the why he didn't use them in previous games?
I love how consistent keyblade transformations are in the series it's always there and then they finally gave us this power
Highwind/Storm Flag will forever be the greatest kh3 transformation (in my opinion)
Actually, that would go to Oathkeeper/Oblivion (or vice-versa, or singular) for they give you TWO keyblades, and each have their own unique first form (light\dark) and two unique transformations. With the double keyblade form being so badass 🎮🕹️💜💯
Stormflag supremacy
@@CherikoSol uhhhhh howabout "Dual-wielding" supremacy?! Easily Trumps storm flag. Just with its shotlock alone (a freaking galaxy firing entire stars at an opponent?!) I'd go even as far to say dual wielding trumps over Ultima! 💯
@@Cornelius9013it's weird how you even replied to someone's unrelated reply
@@yoshihaze1525 agree .. its best keyblade after ultima weapon kh 3
Me: *sees a list of cool and well-designed keyblade transformations.*
Also me: *Prefers Kingdom Key over all of them.*
@@unfortunaterabbit5900 yeah whenever i play a kh game i usually just stick to the base keyblade unless i'm dealing with super bosses or playing days.
Ever since The Lingering Will, seeing a Keyblade take on another form has always been an amazing idea. Better late than never, I love KH3 for letting Sora do the same. I just REALLY love TLW.
I love the concept yes but I wish they would’ve included different types of forms not the same transformations with a color swap. The key blades were they actually crafted a unique shape or ability were the best ones in KH3
Highwind. Stormflag the twin yoyos double form Ultima form second form the mirage stuff where all amazing forms
And Terra turning his into a literal cannon
I mean, the Shooting Star and Hunny Spout keyblades legit turn into RPGs
@@astrotrainiac1191 also true
It's a great way to show Sora's level of mastery over the keyblade 🔥🔥🔥
Well not just that, but stats don't matter as much, as you can increase them, and you have 3 slots for keyblades. This means you can run a less than optimal keyblade for most encounters and have 2 fully transformed ones in reserve for the boss, a strategy i used quite often, usually with the kingdom key as the one i run around with for it's singular transformation, making it more justified to let run out after fights, and giving me 3 different limits at the end, allowing for adaptability. Honestly i hope they further expand upon this with more single stage key blades and even some 3 stage one's, like say ot goes from base, to first form, second form then third, changing the moveset on each stage. Perhaps we could unlock stuff to further extend the time in saod stages, with a side quest reward for infinite form gadge, like the infinite magic one in kh3.
It wasn’t the transformations that made them all useful it was the Keyblade Forge
I actually really liked this feature in KH3 as well as the ability to level up the keyblades
Why nobody talks about Kh 358 days Keyblades? Each one has it owns combos and abilities. Making you decide what you prefer.
It mainly due to veing so gog dang many of them that that a video in of itself
It's not only keyblade transformation that made kh3 fun but the way they take it that you can upgrade any keyblade to make it stronger
The honey pot goated
I only wish we could get both keybkade forms *and* drive forms. Or at least something that changes your normal combat feel, like synch blade from valor or telekinetic swinging and mid attack gliding like final form.
We have Ultimate Form with the Ultima Weapon, it's basically Final Form on twelve pounds of crack
I just wish in 3 you could more seamlessly swap keyblades without just letting the boss break out of your combo
Just go to the settings and turn off the transformation command pause
You can, there’s a way using items and animation cancels. Just look it up. You can buy a ton of panaceas since they’re extremely cheap.
It adds a layer of skill to the gameplay.
I want these to return in kh4
Honestly, I really love the keyblade system in Re:Coded. I know the game has it's issues, but in terms of keyblade mechanics it was my favourite. You had to level up the keyblades to unlock more abilities and skills, and they gave each keyblade so much variety and it's individual playstyle.
The form changes my favorite mechanics in kh3 which, unfortunately, were not explored as far as they could’ve been
Did you not see the teaser for Kh4? Where Sora is able to do advanced formchanges like Terra? It’s very clear you need to be extremely powerful to be able to do stuff like Terra since no one else really does it to that extent or that often. We saw exactly the level of formchange that Sora was at. Just because you would have liked more doesn’t mean it wasn’t explored as much as it needed to be at the time. They showed us his future potential by showcasing Terra’s abilities.
@@TheSCPStudio I guess you have a point. So do you think we’ll see more of the mechanic?
@@TheSCPStudio yeah thats something im SUUUUPER excited for!! :D
Keyblade Transformations are cool, I just hated that they were blocked behind situation commands. If it was more meter based like Devil Trigger or KH2 Forms so I can use them freely on the fly, I would've loved them even more than forms.
If it was a DT system, they'll probably have a shared DT pool, but the way they are now, you can activate 3 of them simultaneously with each having a separate cooldown. You can freeze the current cooldown by switching to another keyblade.
So what I did throughout my playthrough was use a keyblade till I get the transformation, switch, use 2nd keyblade till transformation, do the same with the 3rd, then now you have 3 transformed keyblades together and you can switch between them essentially making them like the style switching in DMC.
Worth noting that in Critical mode, you have 2 exclusive abilities that make the transformations way better:
* Critical Recharge - Your situation command gauge will fill faster while your MP is recharging.
* Critical Converter - Attraction commands no longer appear, and instead filling your command gauge will always result in a form change (keyblade transformation).
@@FireStarJutsudon't forget that going into the water, leaving the world or activating certain cutscenes make you revert from said form
@@johnpantag472 Those aren't really that much of an issue, because charging the forms mid fight is quite fast.
@@FireStarJutsu unfortunately that is true
There are no greater Keyblade transformations than those of the X-Blade. I really hope we get to use it and its transformations in KH4 as the game's Ultima Weapon.
@@EUM_NEMESIS I mean we should consider xehanort CLEARLY hands us the X-blade
@@johnpantag472 There are a lot of people arguing about it actually. There are some that say that the X-Blade is gone because it's connected to Kingdom Hearts and that once one is gone the other one follows. I myself argue against that, since it is shown that Kingdom Hearts does not appear at the same time as the X-Blade and that it has to be summoned separately. Then there is also the fact that the Master of Masters is clearly targetting Sora in Quadratum for some reason, a reason which could very well be the X-Blade.
It's better when you turn the transformation cutscenes off to be honest hahaha
also having 3 keybaldes equipped were really nice
Keyblade Transformations are the best compared to Drive Forms, but I still want to activate my forms on command instead of relying on RNG and building up arrows.
It’s not RNG lol, it takes the same amount of damage to activate the situation command for it every time. You can activate them on ‘command’ by activating the form change before a major fight and swap to another keyblade since forms are stored when they’re not being used…
It’s effectively the same system as a drive gauge my dude. But instead of waiting for enemies to drop orbs that slowly tick up the drive bar, you’re doing damage and ticking up the formchange bar at a consistent rate, which is WAY more intuitive for fluid combat.
@TheSCPStudio It is not the same system at all.
It's the Command Style system from BBS, not Drive Forms.
They are mechanically different and one takes away choice and resource management from the player to encourage "freebies"
The sheer amount of situation commands thrown at you for free Za spells/Form Changes/Team Attacks/Attractions is absurd and honestly it's either ignorance of how game design works or disingenuous to claim they are similar
@@TheSCPStudiolmao bro sit your ass down. It is rng. If you use magic through your combos you might get grand magic instead of a form unless you play on critical mode. Also the form commands have countdowns.
@@DaniNyoMHwhat you said is true. I hate how some of these "fans" defend their dumo design choices. It's clear that Disney out their hand on kh3 to make it more accessible for a broader audience with the flashy attacks.
I hate how some of them was copy and paste
Yeah, that’s kinda why I didn’t like some of them.
They were just form swaps, and element changes, that’s it.
"some"
A small price to pay for the amount of them we got.
Even then, I think the differences between the different Drive Forms attached to the same Weapon is good enough for me.
@@aguywithgames3135 I think having unique transformations with each form would have been better, so it could incentivize combat exploration… instead of having the same combos over and over.
The forms in 3 are too bare bones to even be called “forms”…
They don’t exist to give you an advantage, they exist to break early game exploration.
@@D.W.M.T.Y.A.W._CheckAbout_ That’s kind of asking for a lot, considering the *_thirteen_* (including Base Form + two more with OKP/OBV) weapons you could wield for the base game…
And to call the forms in 3 “bare bones” when they’re essentially the Drive Forms mixed with the Command/Link Styles is just… well, IDK how to describe it, but I heavily disagree.
And your last line is pretty confusing, does that not sound like gaining advantages?
i just miss reflect 😢
That’s why I really loved Recoded! It gave options for Keyblade use. It had unique abilities and didn’t really affect stats, except their abilities of course. Kh3 keyblades, though had stats, the keyblade transformations balanced it out AND many stats closely resembled each other
There's also the fact in KH3 you can have multiple key blades equipped at a time where as before you could only have one at a time.
FR also fire vid I subbed cause you deserve it
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Kingdom key, ultima weapon, and nano gear sit on my list constantly once i have them. Everything else collects dust 😂
I'll be the first to admit. Drive forms are awesome. But Keyblade Transformations are better
Don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion or not but I always preferred formchanges to drive forms; they’re functionally similar, with small groups of each transformation being part of one “form” (with the exception of second, light, dark, double, and ultimate) but the transformations do a lot more to alter your moveset, Wisdom Form and Final Form changes things a lot, but the rest just felt like buffs. Furthermore, it’s a lot harder to cheese fights as you can’t enter a battle with a form already charged up like in KH2, you have to do enough in the fight to earn the formchange.
Also, there’s no more random chance Antiform, another plus!
I agree. I love having 3 Keyblade Transformations of my choosing on standby and even if a number of the form changes are similar to one another, I still love the diversity and some of the stuff you can pull off with them. Like skating around after switching from the Blizzard Claws Form Change, or creating clones with Mirage Staff with the finisher resembling KH2 Trinity Limit, or preforming extremely fast and snappy combos with the Light, Dark or Double Forms, or just using a giant Frying Pan against enemies.
Also, this doesn't relate to utility, but I'm glad that abilities like Double Flight and Glide are no longer locked behind Drive Forms. As much as I love Drive Forms and while I do think they have overall more diversity considering that each one feels different in both combat and magic, constantly grinding so that you can have access to the best version of your growth abilities (Which you need to get through the Cavern of Remembrance) is pretty tedious and annoying.
see other keyblades still kinda fall short once you get the ultima weapon and oblivion and/or oathkeeper since their forms are busted and have the highest damage when fully upgraded
Seeing the kind of crazy stuff people can do with the Form Changes in the Data Battles will never not be entertaining to me. I love both Drive Forms and Form Changes, but I think I slightly prefer Form Changes. Even if the diversity isn't as high. From the fast combos of Double Form, the Nostalgic Second Form, the Hyper Hammer that's great for Crowd Control, and the stylish and fluent Mirage Staff and Arrow Guns, I just find them really enjoyable to use, and I love the fact that you can upgrade your Keyblades as well.
I personally from a gameplay perspective prefer soras form changes i find them more enjoyable to use
From gameplay standpoint i do prefer kh2 forms
From a lore ish perpective i much prefer the keyblade transformations
The thing I noticed about Drive Forms and Formchanges is that Sora has to use his teammates (save for Limit Form) to activate his Drive Forms and is at risk of activating Anti-Form against his will.
Formchange, on the other hand, doesn’t require Sora to fuse with anyone and can activate Rage Form at will.
Nailed it. Essentially, he doesn't need the power of his friends, and is actually using his OWN power to bring out these transformations. Essentially, his mastery over the keyblade 🙏🎮🕹️🫂💯
@@Cornelius9013 That's a gameplay mechanism. He doesn't need his friends to use it. Even if he did they were a liability in the game anyway.
My favorite so far is Favorite Deputy.
I'd like the ability to level up keyblades, it'd basically just make it so that all keyblades are basically near same damage wise so you can just pick your favorites
Tbh I dont like keyblade transformations. They kinda take away from the power fantasy of being a keyblade wielder imo. They are cool on their own but I prefer swinging the keyblade, not a giant hammer, not claws, not a pair of yoyos or guns or a spear. Im here to use a keyblade lol
I do think the keyblade upgrading system is really cool tho and I hope it stays
Oathkeeper/Oblivion Will be the best keyblade transformation, in any of the series. Was definitely my favorite in 358/2 days, but KH3 took that a step further by giving them each their own unique (first) forms, with the final attack in "double form" being THE best final attack (Not to mention the amazing KHU\x shotlock) 🙏🎮🕹️💜💯
Isn't the best in the series. It's not even greater than Limit form, or even Final Form. Double Form isn't even better than base Roxas even in combo modifiers.
@@selassieaspen9940tbh most of the double form attacks are attacks from valor form and Roxas dual wield combos.
i’m very very happy to see another fan mention anything about dream drop distance, shows he played it :)) a lot of controversy on that game for some reason
And then you got Ultima in KH3 and all the other Keyblades will never see the light of day too
Wrong, you either get oathkeeper or Oblivion, and once you access dual form everything else is essentially null and void lmao 🤭🤷🎮🕹️💯
Technically only the keychains would go unused
I need Drive Forms back
Keyblade transformations combine drive forms tho
@@randomgamer625 still less fun
@@sephiro2063 fair
Go play terrible KH2 then
It would be cool to see the kingdom key get a transformation in its based form in KH4
For me I wish they would have kept drive forms or something I’m not a fan of the key blades transforming. The whole draw of the key blade for me is the fact that it’s a giant key I think it kind of defeats the purpose when it transforms into a different weapon.
I wish they gave sora armor
I do wish Keyblade transformations worked more like how Drive Forms worked in KH2, so you had to work more for it and couldn't pull it off literally every combat, be it boss or random encounter.
The only issue is they need to LAST LONGER!!
And having a button to activate them. I miss using s to escape a bosses attack
So who idea what created their own Keyblade and start difficulty finding weapons that we all like to transformations
I mean drive forms were way more peak than keyblade transformations IMO. Nothing hit like final form. Even the 4th level spells I feel like are more indicative of growth and visually striking than keyblade transformations.
I used 2 Keyblades in the 3 run. Sorry but it doesnt fix the "keyblades stay unused" issue 🙂
Especially when some of them have the same forms as other. The abilities are cool tho
At first I hated keyboard transformations over drive forms but after Replaying kingdom hearts 2 and 3 I can say key blad transformations are better they offer more variety and abilities to the game sometimes it’s even hard to pick my favorite transformations now
If not for platinum trophy, I would not try the monochrome keyblade which is very fun to use.
Yeah, but then the problem comes that there’s no need to use any other weapon if all weapon can essentially do the same job. You just pick which is your favorite animation
Facts
hard disagree here. the transformations are fun to use and look great but on critical way too dangerous to use cause of their long attack animations.
i loved the drive system much more. dualwielding keyblades was amazing and getting rid of it was a huge bummer for me. and yes, i know you can dual wield with a specific sword but it's locked behind dlc and critical difficulty.
I prefer forms.
Kh2 Drive forms still the best 💯
In my opinion, Formchanges was an improvement compared to Command Styles and Drive Forms.
The downside of Formchanges though, some of them have 2 of the same thing and you can't activate them on command.
But other than that, Formchanges have more variety as opposed to Drive Forms.
In my opinion, KH3 may not be THE best game in the franchise, but it's nowhere near the worst game in the franchise.
The ones that are similar are only so on a surface level. They each have different attacks, finishers, dodges, shotlocks, etc.
@@TheSCPStudio I must've forgotten because it was a long time since I played KH3 or used any Formchanges besides Second, Light/Dark, Double, and Ultimate forms (which are my favorite/Go-To Formchanges in the game).
Unfortunately they acted more as command styles, than actual Keyblade Transformations.
Kh2 and Re:Coded have the ability based systems we love in KH games, and 3 DOES do that which is lovely.
However the forms associated with each Keyblade Transformation, feel like as if someone decided to make Zero Sugar versions of each available drive form.
The only improvement, was Rage form over anti.
THAT is a genuine buff that I can appreciate from three.
Rage Form isn’t the worst.
Guardian is.
The main issue I have with Keyblade transformations, not to dissuade your argument, is that we had only iirc the guns/launchers, the hammers/drills, claws, shields, ice blade skates, yo-yos, a lance/flag, and after that it’s like… pseudo drives after that.
I mean.. Second Form (and its variants), Rage Form, Everafter’s Elemental Form, Light Form, Dark Form, Dual Form, Nanomachine’s blitz form, Ultimate Form… those all feel very drive-y… but as I said, zero sugar.
I have an issue with it, that we can’t exactly mix and match and utilize whatever unique form with whichever unique transformation… we’re given sets of 2s. And essentially told to break the game’s exploration before the second to last encounter sets before the game ends.
I hard agree, concept wise they were cool and MUCH needed since LW was what showed how far they could go early on.
But now, we really can’t do much aside from using the “oh this is red hammer, this is yellow hammer” or “this is blue guns, these are yellow guns”.
Just, a teensy gripe.
TLDR; Good argument, however it’s limited beyond the idea of it.
Honestly my only criticism with these transformations is that the _act_ of transforming not only does more damage than the combos or after effects themselves {possibly due to the transformations counting as a tick to both combo boosts but resets after the pause}
But more importantly you get _zero_ i frames.
Got stuck in ansem's mega dark ball of destruction and darkness and death doing a transformation?
TOO BAD, PREPARE TO DIE
Imo KH1 was just progression based which felt really good, which wasn't the case in kh3 because of upgrades but you had more build freedom so I guess it's just personal preferences as always
I actually really like the keyblade transformation. It completely changes the dynamic of a fight and gives alot of versitility
except that most transformations played exactly the same
@Dr.AvenVon I don't think so. You have to build up a limit meter for each one. And each keyblade has unique properties.
I'm using the Tangled keyblade and it's useful for healing. Etc...
@@KrazyStargazer how exactly is your first point relevant at all?
and yes, the tangled one is actually unique. most other transformations are not.
@Dr.AvenVon The Frozen one has 2 transformations and utilize different skill sets.
The Monsters Ink one is also a 2 step one.
The Olympus Keyblade has longer reach and has a block function once you build it up
Etc...
Take the time to mess around with the keyblades and you see it changes combat alot
@@KrazyStargazer yes, keyblades have differen transformations. but in the end, they play exactly the same, just different animations. the olympus shield is unique, yes. but most other (again, MOST) play exactly the same.
I still think Drive forms are better and still miss final form
What’s annoying is the transformation cute scene
I hated keyblade transformations, I want drive forms instead please
I like keyblade transformations, I just want them to be tied to a gauge like drive forms. So it's more tactical if you use them and not just, hit them activate hit them even more
How is it not tactical? The form doesn’t go away when you don’t have the keyblade equipped. So just activate the form prior to whatever fight is happening and then switch to it whenever you want to during that fight???
@@TheSCPStudio that's true I mean I was switching them too. But what I really meant was the emergency aspect. If your low on health and have no MP you can still use drive form recover everything and get some extra damage too. With keyblade transformations you don't recover anything, just better attacks and in some even really good defense abilities. So you end up always using them, which isn't bad but you lose the emergency aspect, the on a clutch recovering when almost dying.
I mean leave keyblade transformations in but give us at least 1 or 2 different forms to use at a last resort. Keyblade transformations probably then need to be nerfed a bit with their damage output, but I still think it would be fun with even more combat options.
@@TheSCPStudiostop moaning the whole kh community agrees with this statement except 10 people your point is... well, pointless
The keyblade transformations were all pretty ugly tbh with few exceptions, the main reason why keybladed were more usable in KH3 is because you can upgrade every keyblade, drive forms are peak
Keyblade transformations are truly the worst thing since fighting lingering will without slapshoting drive forms was the greatest thing ever introduced in kingdom hearts and they should've added on to them
I never liked the keyblade transformations in KH3 looks childish compared to drive forms.😅
Drive forms were better
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Formchanges have been in the series since KH1. You don’t get new keyblades. You get new key CHAINS which attach to the keyblade and alter its form.
@@TheSCPStudio oh look someone played the franchise a couple of months ago and tries to play it smart on someone who has been playing it since day one. You ain't that guy bro
Keyblade transformations are whack. Drive forms were waaaaaay better
Key blade transformer and drive from are something that I don't really like because the in both 2 and 3it made both games a joke
Damn how thed the skeleton key from skyrim get into kingdom hearts🤔
(I know its a fummy joke guys also if you dont get it its because the skeleton key from skyrim could unlock more then well normal locks canonically like a soul or in this case to me a transformation of itself to make it a weapon that unlocks victory or to a complete new dimension also im super fummy i know).... .. ..... ..... .. . ....
Gameplay is boring though. If you got any enemy without retaliation built into it, you simply keep pressing „X“ and you’ll juggle the enemy into the Air where no other enemy can hit you. It’s so boring I dunno what happened in between KH2 and KH3 but whatever it was, it was a *MASSIVE* step in the wrong direction
"promosm" 🙋
Ya I kinda hate them. There a resourceless damage boost mechanic.
I love kh3 but the attraction rides were annoying
no it sucks
Or ya know, delete the game. that is useful as well frees up 60gbs of space
I love the mechanic. However I did not love the story aspect that it was never explained how Sora got this power, I’m just saying that the Lingering Will fight is canon and they could say it’s from that fight in which Sora learns the ability to do it.
I mean I’m pretty sure there just what remains of his drive forms since the keyblade transformations combine with drive forms
And remember that his powers were all over the place since he was almost turned into Xehanort
The form change is inherent in the keyblade itself from the moment they use it. You don’t get new keyblades, you get new keychains, which are what alter the keyblade forms. Sora’s been witnessing form changes since the very beginning.
@@TheSCPStudioyou just proved his point. They never explained where he got them from. If they are tied to the keyblade the why he didn't use them in previous games?