When I first started shooting and joining clubs and ranges during the 1970s and 80s there were quite a few members who had those old Victory S&Ws in both calibers and different barrel lengths. I once saw a 2" for sale in a gun store in those days. One of the elderly members, a retired cop, told me that the City he served in during the 1950s and 1960s authorized those WW2 sidearms for use but only in .38 Special. When +P and +P+ ammunition came into law enforcement use by the late 1980s the old guns were phased out, these are fine with standard velocity and mid range target wadcutters.
Missed a screw. One in front of the trigger guard is the 'forth screw' of a 'four screw (Smith & Wesson) revolver'. Therefore manufactured between 1955 (end of 'fifth screw' at top of side plate) and 1961 (end of 'forth screw' in front of trigger guard). Victory model was indeed made during WW2. However, S&W did not make the 'model 10' at that time. 1957-1958 (there is a bit of 'slide' in manufacturing) was the date (time period?) when model numbers were first used. At the time of the Victory model (before and after) that revolver was 'officially' a .38 Hand Ejector, Military and Police. Just for information, the Victory model was made in both .38 S&W and .38 Special. The British Army used the .38 S&W round (called the '380/200') and some were issued to factory guards. Barrel lengths were made by the factory in both four and five inch configurations. As shown, the .38 Special cartridge will not (should not) fully fit into a .38 S&W chamber as the case is too long to fit. Nor will the .38 S&W cartridge properly fit into a .38 Special chamber, as the .38 S&W is of greater diameter (the case itself) than the .38 Special chamber will allow. One should be careful. Some of the .38 S&W models have been 'altered' to allow the .38 Special round to fit. In these guns, the cylinders and frames are built to withstand the higher pressure of the Special and nothing will blow up, but the .38 Special cases so used will expand somewhat and be difficult or impossible to reload. (Not a problem for a non-reloading shooter.) In any event '+p' loads should NOT be used at all. Having shot double action revolvers for the greater part of my life, I find ALL the S&W 'service' stocks (the original type with the rounded top fitting into the frame) and the 'magna' stocks (the updated sort from around 1935 for some harder recoiling revolvers and on everything from the early 1950s) to be hideous. The grips are too small for a decent grip and anything with recoil allows the trigger guard to smack on on the first knuckle of the middle finger. If nothing else, a Tyler T-Grip is needed to fill in the gap and decent after market grips (I like Herrett) are much better. I currently have several such revolvers of both pre- and post- WW2 vintage. I even have a Victory Model, but it was 'altered' to accept .38 Special cartridges and had the barrel lopped off just behind the extractor rod head. As I shoot predominantly double action, the Smiths appeal to me more than others.
@@david-laurie-life8950 This is my hobby and in many ways I'm probably a bore about it. All that aside, I do appreciate the older revolvers made by S&W, However anything I've learned will die with me (next fifteen to twenty years) if I don't share it. And I do agree with Mr. Smith below who mentioned the older ones have soul.
@@OldManMontgomery To extrapolitate my humble remark from your learned perspective, I recollect that many pistoleros, (including older police officers holdouts) who used these wonderful sidearms would restock them with rubber Pachmayers, Hogues, and wood Herretts, and numerous other fine makers, most of which are no longer in business.
@@richardkluesek4301 Not Pachmayrs. They didn't come out until the 1960s. Prior to that, there was a company called 'Mershon" who made essentially the same grips. They were bought by Pachmayr in the 1960s. I always wondered what happened to them. Hogue didn't exist until 1968. They are still functional as I understand. Herrett's is my favorite, their 'Shooting Star' line works for all the S&W revolvers for me. Steve Herrett passed away some time ago, but I bought a set of the aforementioned grips some five or six years ago. On the other hand, perhaps you were referencing the 1960s and 1970s. In which case, yes, many did. The S&W 'Magna' stocks smack my middle finger if the arm recoils.
@@OldManMontgomery I began handgun shooting in 1972. Those who had "service" style stocks on the S&W K s and Colts used those Tyler Ts for the reasons you cited. Many shooters retrofitted 10s and 15s with the Magnum stocks from Model 19s and 66s as well as the Herretts and others. I atarted with a Colt Python and Trooper long since disposed of, now preferring Smith Ks.
Hello David Laurie from Colombia My Country in South America (Excuse my English it´s a work in progress hehe)... I have a question to you because you are an Expert in firearms and in Smith and wesson...... Look , i have an Smith and Wesson Revolver , Model 10- 5 , 38 Special ( I supouse year 1979, 1980, 1981 but i am not sure exactly what year it is).... and my ask is What do you think about this arm, is a good revolver ??? what is your opinion about this S.W model.... Many people say me that it´s a classic revolver and they say me is very commun or popular around the world in many Countries... What is your opinion about it ?? , and also how much would be the Cost to collectioners this arm , S.W. revolver model 10- 5 , 38 Special year 1980 , in USA for example ??.... Thank you man if you answer me and greetings again fron my Country in the distance !!... BByyeee !.
Thank you for your answer, i appreciate it... Well, now i know i have a greatest firearm of the Smith and Wesson company, isn't it hehe... it´s a classic revolver and it´s very famous.... Take care man and thank you !.@@david-laurie-life8950
Thank you for sharing the history of your father's gun. I have a Model 10-7. Old guns always have more of a soul to them. Thanks again.
Thank you for the support 😊
Love all these old guns you have thank you for sharing with us
Thank you. And thank you for the support 😊
Model 10 withh Model 15 and Colt Diamondback are the best revolvers ever made!!!Thanks for sharing!!
This eas my second gun that I owned in 1980!! A real gem!! Very sturdy and accurate in double action!! Sweet firi g revolver!!
Yes they are😊
When I first started shooting and joining clubs and ranges during the 1970s and 80s there were quite a few members who had those old Victory S&Ws in both calibers and different barrel lengths. I once saw a 2" for sale in a gun store in those days. One of the elderly members, a retired cop, told me that the City he served in during the 1950s and 1960s authorized those WW2 sidearms for use but only in .38 Special. When +P and +P+ ammunition came into law enforcement use by the late 1980s the old guns were phased out, these are fine with standard velocity and mid range target wadcutters.
I owned a victory model made for Australia. It had a 5 inch barrel and was 38 Smith and Wesson which was equivalent to the british rounf.
Very cool😊😁
Missed a screw. One in front of the trigger guard is the 'forth screw' of a 'four screw (Smith & Wesson) revolver'. Therefore manufactured between 1955 (end of 'fifth screw' at top of side plate) and 1961 (end of 'forth screw' in front of trigger guard).
Victory model was indeed made during WW2. However, S&W did not make the 'model 10' at that time. 1957-1958 (there is a bit of 'slide' in manufacturing) was the date (time period?) when model numbers were first used. At the time of the Victory model (before and after) that revolver was 'officially' a .38 Hand Ejector, Military and Police.
Just for information, the Victory model was made in both .38 S&W and .38 Special. The British Army used the .38 S&W round (called the '380/200') and some were issued to factory guards.
Barrel lengths were made by the factory in both four and five inch configurations.
As shown, the .38 Special cartridge will not (should not) fully fit into a .38 S&W chamber as the case is too long to fit. Nor will the .38 S&W cartridge properly fit into a .38 Special chamber, as the .38 S&W is of greater diameter (the case itself) than the .38 Special chamber will allow. One should be careful. Some of the .38 S&W models have been 'altered' to allow the .38 Special round to fit.
In these guns, the cylinders and frames are built to withstand the higher pressure of the Special and nothing will blow up, but the .38 Special cases so used will expand somewhat and be difficult or impossible to reload. (Not a problem for a non-reloading shooter.) In any event '+p' loads should NOT be used at all.
Having shot double action revolvers for the greater part of my life, I find ALL the S&W 'service' stocks (the original type with the rounded top fitting into the frame) and the 'magna' stocks (the updated sort from around 1935 for some harder recoiling revolvers and on everything from the early 1950s) to be hideous. The grips are too small for a decent grip and anything with recoil allows the trigger guard to smack on on the first knuckle of the middle finger. If nothing else, a Tyler T-Grip is needed to fill in the gap and decent after market grips (I like Herrett) are much better.
I currently have several such revolvers of both pre- and post- WW2 vintage. I even have a Victory Model, but it was 'altered' to accept .38 Special cartridges and had the barrel lopped off just behind the extractor rod head. As I shoot predominantly double action, the Smiths appeal to me more than others.
Wow! Thank you for the great information. My newest video features the British model😊🥰😁
@@david-laurie-life8950 This is my hobby and in many ways I'm probably a bore about it. All that aside, I do appreciate the older revolvers made by S&W, However anything I've learned will die with me (next fifteen to twenty years) if I don't share it. And I do agree with Mr. Smith below who mentioned the older ones have soul.
@@OldManMontgomery To extrapolitate my humble remark from your learned perspective, I recollect that many pistoleros, (including older police officers holdouts) who used these wonderful sidearms would restock them with rubber Pachmayers, Hogues, and wood Herretts, and numerous other fine makers, most of which are no longer in business.
@@richardkluesek4301 Not Pachmayrs. They didn't come out until the 1960s. Prior to that, there was a company called 'Mershon" who made essentially the same grips. They were bought by Pachmayr in the 1960s. I always wondered what happened to them.
Hogue didn't exist until 1968. They are still functional as I understand.
Herrett's is my favorite, their 'Shooting Star' line works for all the S&W revolvers for me. Steve Herrett passed away some time ago, but I bought a set of the aforementioned grips some five or six years ago.
On the other hand, perhaps you were referencing the 1960s and 1970s. In which case, yes, many did. The S&W 'Magna' stocks smack my middle finger if the arm recoils.
@@OldManMontgomery I began handgun shooting in 1972. Those who had "service" style stocks on the S&W K s and Colts used those Tyler Ts for the reasons you cited. Many shooters retrofitted 10s and 15s with the Magnum stocks from Model 19s and 66s as well as the Herretts and others. I atarted with a Colt Python and Trooper long since disposed of, now preferring Smith Ks.
Great model 10 and story of your pops pistol.
Thank you for the kind words and support 😊👍
Thats my Dads gun. Just like it. Great gun, but never let my Dad hear I said that.
Cool😊
Hello David Laurie from Colombia My Country in South America (Excuse my English it´s a work in progress hehe)... I have a question to you because you are an Expert in firearms and in Smith and wesson...... Look , i have an Smith and Wesson Revolver , Model 10- 5 , 38 Special ( I supouse year 1979, 1980, 1981 but i am not sure exactly what year it is).... and my ask is What do you think about this arm, is a good revolver ??? what is your opinion about this S.W model.... Many people say me that it´s a classic revolver and they say me is very commun or popular around the world in many Countries... What is your opinion about it ?? , and also how much would be the Cost to collectioners this arm , S.W. revolver model 10- 5 , 38 Special year 1980 , in USA for example ??.... Thank you man if you answer me and greetings again fron my Country in the distance !!... BByyeee !.
Excellent revolver. What I learned to shoot with. Although my teaching gun was a war model😳. They are the backbone of Smith and Wesson. My opinion 😊
Thank you for your answer, i appreciate it... Well, now i know i have a greatest firearm of the Smith and Wesson company, isn't it hehe... it´s a classic revolver and it´s very famous.... Take care man and thank you !.@@david-laurie-life8950
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