TGM is actually a skate shop here in Michigan. A number of years ago they moved to a different city and started manufacturing different parts as well. Edit: I'm sure they outsource their manufacturing, but with the size of their building. I'm sure it's also a warehouse. If anyone knows differently, please chime in.
Was stoked to see TGM featured here! I was able to pickup a deck from them on clearance for only 35 bucks a couple months back. Definitely work checking out the deals over there.
always refreshing to see you lose your cool a bit, skateboarding can be extremely frustrating sometimes and its important to remind everyone that we all get those feelings 🤙
For anyone who sweats a lot I recommended drinking either Powerade/ Gatorade zero or some rehydration packets to properly rehydrate your body water also works but not as much because there is no sodium or electrolytes that you need to stay hydrated
I worked for TGM for a couple years, the black diamond griptape, core trucks, tgm wheels, amp bearings, dimebag hardware are all house brands. They are much more than just a skate shop/online retailer. They own more brands than that too and also wholesale some of their other brands.
I’ve been skating for years and landed my first kickflip a few weeks ago, just helped my friend set up his first board ever and another friend has a board on the way, boutta shred out here with the crew🤘
Yep! And I've bought them in the US, too. They're solid. It's interesting John didn't know about them, but glad he got to try some. Maybe this set wasn't his style, but they make other styles. Independent is still my go-to, but glad we have so much choice.
It fairness, Having skated since the 90's I didn't hear of them either until about 4 years ago when my son wanted to get a board and I starting looking around. I discovered Thunder trucks after my second complete and rode them for the better part of 25 years without ever considering anything else... As creatures of habit we often find what's comfortable and stick with it. At this point 2 of my boys had a set of CORE trucks and the TGM wheels from one of 2 Amazon complete kits and I wholeheartedly agree, they are a surprisingly good deal
about stealing, its something that shocked me when learning around different places, most of the places and countries I went to, stealing is a lot more rare and u can let ur phone on a table for hours in public and it will stay here even if ur not near it, but it shocked me to learn that there are places where people will try to steal it just because ur not holding it, its super scary
I think I had a pair of Core trucks back in the day, probably 20ish years ago. I may have even gotten them from the TGM Skateboards website. Forgot that ever existed until now.
Me too, I had Core trucks in my skateboarding beginning. Long time ago. In the same time period 2007 or maybe something later. It was my first time I destroyed my kingpin on the back truck. I tried bs 360 Ollie's with the pivot (bs 180 plus revert). I was very disappointed. The Amphetamine bearings. I know them also, from the past. I bought it together (complete skateboard) It was a fair price. But not the best. I usually don't comment. But it gives me a little smile. Because I know the hardware from the past
Core is a somewhat legit truck brand. They basically copy a lot of the Indy geometry. They’re so similar, you can even put an Indy hanger in a core baseplate
I just got into skateboarding.. and yeah i spent 250$ on my skateboard set up after i bought my first one which was a walmart board. I use andy anderson's 9.13 flight deck with ace1 trucks and dragon formula wheels + Reds bones bearings
Love you’re videos dude you are so inspiring and relatable i watch ur clips before every skate sesh for inspiration also i was wondering how u made/got your bench ledge you skate a lot
Nice! I actually have a board with core trucks and people at the park actually tend to really like them funnily enough. Personally, I think that the trucks are decent, although the bushings aren't, so any bushings instead of the stock ones makes it enjoyable
I’ve been skateboarding the past year with riser pads (1/8). Found that I’ve been struggling to Ollie do flip tricks etc. I decided to take the riser pads off jeez it has made a huge difference I can now kickflip,Ollie do manuals etc with ease. The feel of the board just feels so more natural to me
@@zabukoii8081 Wow. It is hard to imagine they are that common. The closest thing I can think of is brushtail possums here in Aus. You see those every so often if there's a family of them locally but not very common.
my man, it is detrimental to bring a 2nd and sometimes 3rd shirt for every session I have. In this bullshit heat this year, Im drenched after 20 minutes lmfaooooo
From what I have read those core trucks and TGM completes are fairly solid, but the bushings are junk. Several people on reddit said swapping in Shortys Doh-Oh's or Bones Bushings made a big difference.
@John Hill That grip job on the board is bunkAF. That could be why it feels weird and isn't flicking right. At 13:16 you can see all the air bubbles under the tape. It's an OCS nightmare. 😅😅😅😅 Those bubbles can screw everything up. 💯
GUARANTEE the problems u were having w/ the complete were the bushings & pivot cups.👀 Cheap setups cut corners in the smallest places most sk8rs don't know where to look, and the reason the trucks went from tight to too loose was because the bushings were an inferior urethane, and also the pivot cups were prolly settling&cracking as u rode it. Another thing about cheaper trucks is the kingpin might not sit well and be sturdy enough for the weight of an adult male. Cool vid tho, i dig that u can sk8 w/e kinda setup. These vids serve as PSAs to anyone bound to buy a random Amazon complete 😏 thnx John🤙🏾
Would love to see a review of the Joslin’s! I started skating this when they first came out in like 2018 or something and I’ve been skating them since! My favourite shoes ever!
those are the same trucks and wheels i had on my very first board, the deck i had was Tony Hawks Falcon 3 Birdhouse deck, I had red and black core trucks and tgm wheels. Spent my first two years riding those. I think theyre pretty solid for beginners compared to other cheaper options
The last time I was at that park there was a guy I guess posing as the grounds person but he was smoking meth and just happily and aggressively raking the leaves. I mean… euphorically … like at the concert of his life … just raking the… grass
Good review John and hats off to maintaining your energy and creating quality content in such heat. Also, I bet if people switch the bushings in those trucks it would make a big difference. I think pro bushings can improve any budget truck.
as of end of 2023 Elements and Zero completes are good. decks are "Standard Construction", which means they are the same as the Pro decks with generic graphic. pretty sure the board manufacturer is the same and is one of the "Big 4". think Anti Hero is good, too, but double check. Element wheels are similar to a 99a mini logo wheel, trucks are a surprisingly good stainless steel with decent medium bushings, and bearings aren't far off of mini logo either. fyi- the $15 Element "Premium" bearings aren't far off of Reds. Element had some crazy sales at one point, so a $50CDN complete is a $50 complete. got one and like 6 decks. if you are an older skater getting back into it or are just on a serious budget you really do have to watch out for some of the completes. Birch just isn't that good compared to maple, but it's cheaper and "OK", so some companies use it for price point decks and "beginner" completes. pretty sure birch with epoxy glue can be more ok than "OK", but haven't tried one yet personally.
TGM is a great shop. I get inline skate wheels and skateboard wheels from there. Their skateboard wheels work great on rollerskates too. Just bought powell ribs for my deck last week from them
I bought my first board in February it was flip 8.0 complete, trucks and wheels HKD which i still use with element board.. i didnt expected to hold strong for so long.. i got brand new indys for 8.25 and SF wheels but for now ill stick to my old trucks until something brakes😅
hated new boards when i got a new one i jumped on it to get it to flex more and new shoes i use to just flip them and sit on them for it to flex more lol
I've been so unmotivated to skate this summer every time i do go out its blazing hot and i end up on the Verge of heat exhaustion because i don't know how to sit down lol
Imagine riding a heroin board with amphetamine bearings.
the drug deck, nice
@@error.418 imagine the speed
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤yk u pop high asf 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤@@81casperflip
speedballing lol
Imagine the change of commitment? Lol
TGM is actually a skate shop here in Michigan. A number of years ago they moved to a different city and started manufacturing different parts as well.
Edit: I'm sure they outsource their manufacturing, but with the size of their building. I'm sure it's also a warehouse. If anyone knows differently, please chime in.
some skate lore
TGM is great. Tons of good deals.
The blank wheels and Core trucks for example.
Was stoked to see TGM featured here! I was able to pickup a deck from them on clearance for only 35 bucks a couple months back. Definitely work checking out the deals over there.
Awesome company❤ just change the bushings in the trucks good to go... excellent service 💯
@@CurtAlanRunloooll
always refreshing to see you lose your cool a bit, skateboarding can be extremely frustrating sometimes and its important to remind everyone that we all get those feelings 🤙
For anyone who sweats a lot I recommended drinking either Powerade/ Gatorade zero or some rehydration packets to properly rehydrate your body water also works but not as much because there is no sodium or electrolytes that you need to stay hydrated
35 grams of sugar tells me otherwise
@@Skotbro1true true, I agree with your statement
I worked for TGM for a couple years, the black diamond griptape, core trucks, tgm wheels, amp bearings, dimebag hardware are all house brands. They are much more than just a skate shop/online retailer. They own more brands than that too and also wholesale some of their other brands.
i actually like amp bearings
black diamond tape is the only tape I use, it's the best!
SQUIRREL! 😂😅😂
That squirrel was ready for a game of skate or something hahaha
hahah i saw him too and i said ''SQUIRREL !'' out loud like a true ADHD'er 😀 you as well i take it ?
Nobody absolutely nobody:
Squirrel out of no where : do it for the views
1:17 squirrel got a clip 🎉🎉
"I don't feel good, but that felt good" pretty well encapsulates why we skate.
Or him saying, "i didn't land it, but im learning."
Pause at 13:16 to acknowledge the grip bubbles. 🔥 John you are gas ⛽️
I love the fact that every attempt you go for almost always matches the music. very satisfying to add to the skating!
Literally came here to say this lol
That squirrel stole the show before the show started 😄😍🥰
I’ve been skating for years and landed my first kickflip a few weeks ago, just helped my friend set up his first board ever and another friend has a board on the way, boutta shred out here with the crew🤘
the entire skatepark literally looks like its on fire for real
i almost died of toast the other day so i feel
All my worst injury's have been when I keep skating at that exhausted point.
this heat just insane bro, nationwide. and this shit does not feel "on my side" 😂
1:17 Squirrel
Core is considered a great brand of trucks in Europe, economical and with good quality.
Yep! And I've bought them in the US, too. They're solid. It's interesting John didn't know about them, but glad he got to try some. Maybe this set wasn't his style, but they make other styles. Independent is still my go-to, but glad we have so much choice.
It fairness, Having skated since the 90's I didn't hear of them either until about 4 years ago when my son wanted to get a board and I starting looking around. I discovered Thunder trucks after my second complete and rode them for the better part of 25 years without ever considering anything else... As creatures of habit we often find what's comfortable and stick with it. At this point 2 of my boys had a set of CORE trucks and the TGM wheels from one of 2 Amazon complete kits and I wholeheartedly agree, they are a surprisingly good deal
@@GIBsonCubed Yep, it's always fair to not heard of something!
They’re awful.
@@thekaratekidpartii2169 Not really, they're a solid entry truck. There is far far worse out there.
about stealing, its something that shocked me when learning around different places, most of the places and countries I went to, stealing is a lot more rare and u can let ur phone on a table for hours in public and it will stay here even if ur not near it, but it shocked me to learn that there are places where people will try to steal it just because ur not holding it, its super scary
you know its a good day when john hill posts
Life's good n productive when he does🇧🇷🌏❤️🔥💯
Yeah tgm is a skateshop or skateware house with a lot of great prices specially on ebay
Going straight to their site usually has the best deals in my experience.
I think I had a pair of Core trucks back in the day, probably 20ish years ago. I may have even gotten them from the TGM Skateboards website. Forgot that ever existed until now.
Me too, I had Core trucks in my skateboarding beginning. Long time ago. In the same time period 2007 or maybe something later.
It was my first time I destroyed my kingpin on the back truck. I tried bs 360 Ollie's with the pivot (bs 180 plus revert). I was very disappointed. The Amphetamine bearings. I know them also, from the past. I bought it together (complete skateboard)
It was a fair price. But not the best. I usually don't comment. But it gives me a little smile. Because I know the hardware from the past
Core is a somewhat legit truck brand. They basically copy a lot of the Indy geometry. They’re so similar, you can even put an Indy hanger in a core baseplate
But why would you need to do that
@@81casperflip If it's what you happen to have lying around when you bust a hangar, etc. Shit happens.
nothing like watching a john hill video at 12 o clock in the morning
the little squirrel 1:17 lol
I just got into skateboarding.. and yeah i spent 250$ on my skateboard set up after i bought my first one which was a walmart board.
I use andy anderson's 9.13 flight deck with ace1 trucks and dragon formula wheels + Reds bones bearings
Oh also I have Boneshaw deck rails,
Forgot which company made them?
i buy decks from TGM in Michigan all the time. They are bad ass!!! that was a good session man. you should be happy with it. we all enjoyed it.
Random squirrel @ 1:17!! Lol
Love you’re videos dude you are so inspiring and relatable i watch ur clips before every skate sesh for inspiration also i was wondering how u made/got your bench ledge you skate a lot
Nice! I actually have a board with core trucks and people at the park actually tend to really like them funnily enough. Personally, I think that the trucks are decent, although the bushings aren't, so any bushings instead of the stock ones makes it enjoyable
i live in/near the Dallas area my whole life and the heat is literally the worst part of skateboarding.
Gotta watch that heat exhaustion boss, not gd. Love watching your vids. Thanks
I’ve been skateboarding the past year with riser pads (1/8).
Found that I’ve been struggling to Ollie do flip tricks etc. I decided to take the riser pads off jeez it has made a huge difference I can now kickflip,Ollie do manuals etc with ease.
The feel of the board just feels so more natural to me
For and tgm kept me rolling as a kid tgm is a shop in Michigan and core is like their brand of trucks
1:15 Is that a squirrel? Haha Why is no one reacting, are they that common?
Yes, they’re extremely common. It’s the same as being in New York and seeing a pigeon. They’re super super common and everywhere in America
@@zabukoii8081 Wow. It is hard to imagine they are that common. The closest thing I can think of is brushtail possums here in Aus. You see those every so often if there's a family of them locally but not very common.
in certain areas yea, where im from i see one every other day lol
TGM is a skate shop I use often. It’s in my Home Town Mt Clemens
Genuinely how you record skate clips has been the best tool for conceptualizing tricks that I’ve always felt were out of my reach
Bro this is the quickest I have ever watched a video (Under 2 minutes)
I love the joslin vulcs, the grip on the bottom is almost too grippy though. It slows down your slide.
The first time i heard the f word in johns vids it was hilarious 🤣
11:30 I would love to see John try a grind up, flip out combination on that obstacle
damn john you got a temper dude that heel flip manny was good
GIRL was my first pro skateboard I bought at a skate shop. I remember it being purple and green such a cool board. I miss it.
LETS GOO FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SWEATS AS MUCH AS ME (only the real ones understand)
Broooo by the time I'm done with my session. My shirt is literally like someone poured a bucket of water on me.....
my man, it is detrimental to bring a 2nd and sometimes 3rd shirt for every session I have. In this bullshit heat this year, Im drenched after 20 minutes lmfaooooo
@@ace4evr yeah shit sucks lol
@@ace4evr bro so fr h omfg
1:56 John be like "Eww brother ewww" hahaha
From what I have read those core trucks and TGM completes are fairly solid, but the bushings are junk. Several people on reddit said swapping in Shortys Doh-Oh's or Bones Bushings made a big difference.
@John Hill
That grip job on the board is bunkAF. That could be why it feels weird and isn't flicking right. At 13:16 you can see all the air bubbles under the tape. It's an OCS nightmare. 😅😅😅😅
Those bubbles can screw everything up. 💯
I wish you still sold those hats, great design!
Nice! Always stoked on a new JH video. Can't believe you went new shoes and new complete haha. Gutsy! Hope Sarah and Baby are doing well!
GUARANTEE the problems u were having w/ the complete were the bushings & pivot cups.👀
Cheap setups cut corners in the smallest places most sk8rs don't know where to look, and the reason the trucks went from tight to too loose was because the bushings were an inferior urethane, and also the pivot cups were prolly settling&cracking as u rode it. Another thing about cheaper trucks is the kingpin might not sit well and be sturdy enough for the weight of an adult male.
Cool vid tho, i dig that u can sk8 w/e kinda setup. These vids serve as PSAs to anyone bound to buy a random Amazon complete 😏 thnx John🤙🏾
just leaving my comment here to support my fav skate youtuber
Would love to see a review of the Joslin’s! I started skating this when they first came out in like 2018 or something and I’ve been skating them since! My favourite shoes ever!
About 4:50 I am seeing a foot skating trick...NBD...One More Hand ! XD
the flick issue could have been from the grip bubbles maybe
Never thought i would watch a 16 min video of John Hill complaining.
I found out they do this with other brands too, so I'm actually planning to get a complete Baker deck with the same parts:)
those are the same trucks and wheels i had on my very first board, the deck i had was Tony Hawks Falcon 3 Birdhouse deck, I had red and black core trucks and tgm wheels. Spent my first two years riding those. I think theyre pretty solid for beginners compared to other cheaper options
Ahhhh keep killing it! The outro ♥️
The last time I was at that park there was a guy I guess posing as the grounds person but he was smoking meth and just happily and aggressively raking the leaves. I mean… euphorically … like at the concert of his life … just raking the… grass
Good review John and hats off to maintaining your energy and creating quality content in such heat. Also, I bet if people switch the bushings in those trucks it would make a big difference. I think pro bushings can improve any budget truck.
I have read on reddit swapping out the bushings in cores helps a lot.
I've heard of that bearing company. I remember because I thought it was a funny/good name for a bearing company lol.
Cranking out the content! Love to see it
Forgot to shoutout the black diamond grip. My go to for years now
i love how loud all the pops are
i have not seen one of your videos in years im happy to be back
Yu should definitely start a transition series 🙏
Squirrel!!
1:17 squirrel jumpscare
as of end of 2023 Elements and Zero completes are good. decks are "Standard Construction", which means they are the same as the Pro decks with generic graphic. pretty sure the board manufacturer is the same and is one of the "Big 4". think Anti Hero is good, too, but double check.
Element wheels are similar to a 99a mini logo wheel, trucks are a surprisingly good stainless steel with decent medium bushings, and bearings aren't far off of mini logo either. fyi- the $15 Element "Premium" bearings aren't far off of Reds. Element had some crazy sales at one point, so a $50CDN complete is a $50 complete. got one and like 6 decks.
if you are an older skater getting back into it or are just on a serious budget you really do have to watch out for some of the completes. Birch just isn't that good compared to maple, but it's cheaper and "OK", so some companies use it for price point decks and "beginner" completes. pretty sure birch with epoxy glue can be more ok than "OK", but haven't tried one yet personally.
TGM is a great shop. I get inline skate wheels and skateboard wheels from there. Their skateboard wheels work great on rollerskates too. Just bought powell ribs for my deck last week from them
I miss videos where John didnt complain about his own skating that much
I bought my first board in February it was flip 8.0 complete, trucks and wheels HKD which i still use with element board.. i didnt expected to hold strong for so long.. i got brand new indys for 8.25 and SF wheels but for now ill stick to my old trucks until something brakes😅
I thought you quit making skate videos?
1:20 squirrel😊
I did the same thing with a Zero board a year ago. They gave me the same trucks and wheels as yours.
Amphetamine bearrings are fairly popular in europe
John hill is my inspirational skateboarder❤
Stay safe! This heat has been harsh.
You should go back to Jon comer skatepark hope I’m spelling that right it’s such a good park I would love to see another session there
John’s next video title
I got kicked off Revive Skateboards (I shouldn’t have posted my last video)
awesome bro Ive been watching you for like 6 years now
Revive’s 2 mystery graphic board bundle w/grip and free shipping for 65.00 that’s going on right now is a killer deal.
That should tell you something. They can’t even give those boards away.
@@kennynewell85 Crailtap also has a similar sale going on. IDK about you but I'm not made of money.
manuals with those trucks are gonna be hard... they dont turn at all even if you loosen them all the way
Yeah I’ve noticed with joslins you gotta get a half size bigger. The toes are short for some reason
i had that manchild board, loved the dimensions and it lasted a while
hated new boards when i got a new one i jumped on it to get it to flex more and new shoes i use to just flip them and sit on them for it to flex more lol
I actually skated a baker complete with all that same stuff but gold trucks
That park looks hella fun!
I've never heard so many excuses😂😂😂😂
Do the trucks fit the deck width? Look a little inside
I think the right bushings can transform the worst trucks to the best trucks, what you guys think?
I've been so unmotivated to skate this summer every time i do go out its blazing hot and i end up on the Verge of heat exhaustion because i don't know how to sit down lol
Hey come to silverado skatepark long beach Ca they revamped the park!!
I got a tip against dehydration DRINK MORE THAN JUST ONE FUCKING DROP OF WATER BRO JEEEEEEEZ
i believe iv seen thoughs wheels before, if they are the same ones. saw a guy review them because they were a dollar a peace at the time
A john hill post🎉🎉🎉 yayy🎉🎉🎉
Those Chris joslin shoes are so good
Dude I miss watching your videos! Been a long time, how are you?
My ex also told me I get hotter when I get angry 😂🤣
shoutout that squirrel
i would like to see you skate a 8.5 board