Assyrian laminated Bow by Bogar Archery - Review
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2020
- Just saw on the website, the bow comes with free shipping!
229 Euro, 295g, 200fps
What a bow!
Thank you Peter for sending this beauty!
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Thanks to your Review i got one of These with 46#. IT seems to be stiffer than the one Reviewed Here so i have no Vibration, and of course No Handshock. Over 200 fps easily. So thank you for the Inspiration! I have watched many of your Other Reviews Back to Back and my Impression is that this bow is at eye Level If Not better than some of the big names and more expensive bows when it comes to Performance and fun. Now i have only one desire left: a 34" Long Draw Monster that actually survives Long Time. Af archery bows do Not...
You have some really interesting bow reviews I'm from TX and haven't heard of many of these Bowers. very informative
This is one of the most impressive bows I’ve seen you review (and I’ve watched MANY of your vids). It is beautiful, silent (which means it is efficient) and very very fast.
Thank you for your work - your channel is a pleasure to watch and learn from.
My heart goes with Assyrian bow, and this Bow perfectly pleased Armin Hirmer which makes me happier!
Maraming Salamat Peter!
Maraming Salamat Armin!
I'll walang anuman for them lol
Ok keyooo brad
Another in a line of lovely bows and reviews. Armin, you present too many choices!!!
Have shot a horsebow and not really enjoyed it compared to short, field recurve or a flatbow - but I keep coming back to watch these as Armin is so good to watch and makes shooting these look so easy!
Always excellent instructions and evaluations on various bows. I appreciate listening to someone who really knows their stuff.Prost!!
Armin, many Olympic Style Bow Shooters use a Positive Tiller of 2mm too 6mm. Meaning that the Tiller distance of the Top Bow Limb is 2mm too 6mm more than the Bottom Limb. This is to reduce vibration and lower the Sound Level. If the Bottom Limb has more Tiller than the Top Limb then it’s Called a Negative Tiller. Thanks for your Videos. Be Safe!
Probably the most relaxed bow ever. The weight, the curves, the way it bends....
It's pretty too.
Two!!
Everybody to shelters!!!! Red Alert!!! Meister Armin is reviewing new bows !!! 😄
Will they break !!!????
Richard lionheart 👍😎🏹🇫🇷
Send your wallet to shelter! 😂
I love the point at 10:20, this is what sold me on the bow. You can only hear the arrows rattling in Armins hand, no arrow slap, almost no string and no sound from the bow. It points to the bow being at peak efficiency for it's drawweight in conjunction with the arrow shot!
Another excellent looking bow it's beautifully designed. And performs well I wish 32" was a little easier to reach but 31" is ok. Price seems excellent for what you get. Wish international shipping was a bit better but it is what it is! Thank you for building this bow Peter I've been following for a while quite a remarkable archer! Thank you Armin for an excellent review and I'll hurry up and just wait for that wiggly Hun bow still very excited about getting it. My wife had to let the cat out of the bag when it didn't arrive! Thank you very much my friend can't wait to show you me shooting it!😂😂😂😂😂
Outstanding review as always!
Yes!! I hoped you would get some of Bogar bows for review :) Happpppyyyyy :)
Excellent looking bow, I like how well it shot, another excellent review as always
After this test I am very curious about Péter's Hungarian bow. I can't wait for its review. Congrats Péter.
That's one beautiful piece
Having viewed this review, I have just placed my order for a 44lb assyrian. I was thinking of buying a Turkish bow but this bow really appealed !
Fantastic review Armin! Thanks! -JP
It looked like a real fun bow, and beautiful, I already set up an account on their website. His biography is pretty interesting.
Nice one! I love your “a keeper”reviews 😊
i got mine for about 2 months now.. shooting 70m with ease. 10gpp arrows at 23grams.. very little handshock. and the arrow torque is great compared to my other bows. one of the best bow i have ever used.. :D
Man that’s a beautiful bow.
Nice review. Not my preferred design but very interesting bow maker! Thx! 👍👍
Seems fantastic (for the price)! 😊
thanks for sharing kind a resembles the one that broke on you couple videos ago not a bad looking bow but kind of plane. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸
Fantastic bow, lightweight, beatifully made. Bought it in 34 LBS/28“. Although it is my first „classical“ bow, it is easy to handle and very accurate. Outstanding price/value. Shooting mediteranean though. Started with compount, moved on to hybrid and recurve (Damon Howatt Super Diablo 45LBS) and, after watching these great reviews, orderd bows from Alibow, AF, Freddie, Kaya and I Szimeiszter... Because of Armin, my bank account is in danger...
Absolute beginner bow? It's still pretty and want one to play with😍 I'm impressed with performance. Always nice to have a bow you can just string and shoot a couple before work or bed if you need to get it out of your system😁
Great review! 178 fps is fantastic for a 12.2 GPP arrow! That's a strong indication it's well engineered and constructed. No extra mass where it doesn't need to be.
On a side note, mosquitoes are able to detect the CO2 you exhale - that's one of the principle ways they find you apparently. One of the ways you can keep them away if you're going to be standing in one spot for an extended period is to use a fan to diffuse and blow your CO2 away. There are some cheap, fairly large industrial sized fans that could easily do the job for a whole group of people at an outdoor range. I have one that moves an enormous volume of air that runs on 50-90 W. It's like a little hurricane machine and it does work at keeping the little bloodsuckers away. Also, mosquitoes go for ankles, so keeping them covered makes you a less attractive target.
great, will try :) thanks
Simply beautiful.
This is becoming ridiculous! I've seen so many cool bows being reviewed on this channel I am now at a complete loss as to which to go for as my first. 🤔
Incorporeal all the ones in this vid are good options, your best bet is to just jump in with a random bow. After which you develop preferences so your next bow will be better usually haha.
I've shot quite a few, but I think a great middle ground is the Kheshig by Alibow, very nice starter bow and will serve you long throughout your whole archery journey!
I would like to see a review of the "Buck trail hayk" :D
I hope you get your hands on Bogar’s Hun bow. It’s asymmetric and looks very interesting. 😊
closest bow to what legolas has
Hi! Mr. Armin✌😀 that bow It's so beatiful. And if it looks really snappy. It is just my opinion it seems to me that with 10grains it would be great😝. here there are also many mosquitoes
😅It's kind of hard to have fun without touching you without them. Nice Review Great day.🙏
Got the Tatar one from Vegh - also a great bow, very fast!
Woa!! Can you tell me any more about it? That's the bow I've had my eye on for a while. I plan on making it my next purchase.
@@malachimatcho7583 not much to say its very good I recommend it. I know Peter Bogar who's selling these bows personaly and the bow is a good buy. As I said accurate and very powerful bow for its librage. Outperforms Turkish and Sipahi bows with the same librage in terms of range and speed
Very good looking bow thanks for the review.
What would be a good video would be the top 5 bows that you have reviewed.
Cheers Mark
thanks, this video is already in preparation :)
@@ArminHirmer I look forward to it.
Aw dude that is one sexy bow lol. I’d love a longer version of that in black fiberglass and darker riser wood.
Would also love that same kind of thing but made with kind of an English warbow length and heavy draw weight. Like what most editions of Dungeons & Dragons would describe as a Composite Longbow.
For a bow aimed at beginners it sure is preferred by a lot of experienced Archers! I think this is my next bow the Assyrian Bogar one simply because of the good comments being made all over about this bow…
Ok now please make a video to compare the three different Bowyer assyrian bow
it could be an 'assassin bow'.. light, silent, strong and accurate :)
DAMMIT. A lightweight assyrian that can reliably reach 32 is the next bow I was looking for. AND it's super fast too?!?!!? WHYYY?!??!?!!? I just ordered a Kaiyuan... sob... I hope the price doesn't raise too much by the time I'm ready to get one of these.
Why are measurements not in the metric system almost the whole world is using ? :) ah yes 200 feet per second is about 220 kilometers per hour, pretty fast indeed, thank you so much for these videos! :)
You are in Archery World now!😁 It's a higher dimension. We have freedom of units here!😂
Nice bow
thank you for the test; not bad...
I'm hoping you'll get and test a modern "assyrian" bow that really looks like, and behaves like, what historical assyrian reliefs are suggesting :-) that means ~36 inches long draw (scaled up to modern people), beautiful half circle shape when drawn, angular when not drawn, duck or lion ears, more round that flat in section, no particular change in profile at the handle...
@Eschen Harja no, did not see one yet... i guess we have to wait for a bowyer to decide to make an assyrian bow that is fully compatible with depictions of the time, instead of adulterating the shapes and capabilities with (probably) more efficient modern profiles and norms...
@Eschen Harja (more) if we suppose that (1) the shape of the assyrian bow was looking like a half circle - with the string and the arrow looking like 3 of the radiuses of that circle - when drawn at full length, and that (2) the draw length was 10 cm less that what we can do now with our (probably) longer arms, we would need to have assyrian bows Pi*10 cm longer that the real assyrian bows... the modern assyrian bow would be as tall as the bowman, instead of being as tall as one's shoulder (like we see in assyrian depictions)... the thing would be relatively viable...
@Eschen Harja thanks for asking my advice :-) but i have no opinion about that. You'd better ask Armin Hirmer - Malta Archery - who made the video that we are commenting : he tests a lot of bows... as for myself, i would only consider an assyrian bow that really looks like the bows that the assyrians used... (i've seen none for now).
@Eschen Harja i don't
Nice!
It seems to be a great bow and at a good price!
In your opinion,Is the Grozer one better??
I had the Biocomposite from Grozer, yes it's better but almost double the price
@David Munir its personal taste, I just like the look and feel more. if it is worth it for you, you need to know
In your opinion, Armin, which bow feels better for you? Jackal Archery's assyrian or this one? I think that both are pretty similar...
This one :)
Thanks :-)
Hello love your video about de Assirian and I've bought one with #48 from Bogar. It's possibel to buy a longer string to downsize the power a little? Thank you
Does not make sense as it will not bring much but will change the whole geometry of the bow. Better build up the strength
@@ArminHirmer Thank you for your precious wisdom. Best Regards
Hy Armin, quick question, you test the bow speed with pulling and stop for 1-2sec...how many does the arrow speed affect if you shoot like Mr Cozmei (pull the arrow ~90% and then to 100% your draw and snaps the arrow)... I tried it with my alibow (glassfiber), I have no technical stuff to measure my arrows yet, but it feels the arrows snaps faster away... Maybe you can show your experience us and techniques how to "snap" arrows away!? Me and my son, we still learning, watching you, thanks anyways for your advice,experience and lessons...
it will increase speed, but to keep it normal, I do it like I do
@@ArminHirmer yes of course Master Armin, I am just interested, I learn... I listen, I try... Sometimes it hurts my thumb (that's why I have a big thumb) anyways, every time thumbs up to your informational videos. My son and me, we appreciate you!
Assyrian bow speed is the best, better than Egyptian, Mongol, Turkish, Hungarian, and Chinese design. And to think the Assyrian empire predates all other empires. Assyrian king would hunt lion with the very same type of bows. In term of speed I would dare say the only bow can rival the Assyrian bow is Tatar bow if made with bamboo and modern lamination process.
What does speed mean? Arrow speed? I don't know anything about bows.
@@Ace-zb5xr Yes I have 2 Assyrian bows and arrow speed is very fast, rivals some of my modern recurves at the same poundage, not as fast as my friends space tech recurve bow but he also pays thousands of dollars for his bow.
@@antwantuan4040 are modern recurves faster at same poundage than traditional bows ? i am looking to get into archery any advice would be great thanks
@@shahidrafiq6401 Western tradtional and modern recurve are very similar (you draw to corner of your mouth or chin with 3 fingers). onlympic recurve limbs cost 3-8 times the price because of space age design and material. It does give superior adjustability draw smoothness but not by the factor of 3 or 8 times. Traditioanl horse bow are really fun easy to get into but harder to master. Western trad bow is here i started. Western recurve perfoms better speed wise and very efficient at same draw weight and draw length. But Some eastern trad bows are no that far behind if not better in speed and does not lose as much efficiency at launching heavier arrow. They get the speed from longer draw (draw behind ear with thumb due to its design of the siyah). The Tang chang An bow and Asyrian bow by grozer or Saracen or monolith Tatar bow from Lukas nawalny. But if i had a do over i would get an ali bow advance mogol bow to practice and enjoy archery and its reward feeling. (you can 3 finger or thumb draw) It is a well balnce between speed and ease of draw for great price. perhaps get a decent western trad recurve too. i am not experts just from my research and own personal experience. I can talk alot more about the designs and differences but too long
@@antwantuan4040 thank you so much tbh its a minefield out there i thought i could buy a bow and start learning but the more i looked into it the more confused i got there is just so many bow types to choose from and because of covid cant even try some out thanks for getting back so quick
Very fast arrow speed for a 34-pound bow!
What is the draw weight again? 35? Goddamn it's a beast. Also I keep wondering if you use 320 grains arrow, does this means the entire arrow weight or only the shaft?
You account for the entire mass of the arrow for gpp. No diddling around 😁
Na toll...einen Türken von Ali Bow, von Vegh und skimeyster dito plus Kaya Bow Black Shadow🤪... ich darf mir keine Videos mehr von Dir ansehen ... vielen Dank für die Mühe ...👍
Do you get scratches on the side of the bow where the fletches rub it? My bow already has a bunch of scratches in the finish. Had I known this would happen, I would have put some leather or something around where the arrow goes.
Yes
so I know this is not about the video, but what are your general thoughts on Compound bows?
Do you enjoy shooting them, if yes/no why?
I guess you never saw me shooting one :) I simply don't like them, its like cheating :D
@@ArminHirmer I thought so too, I mean if you break it down its always about pushing a "weapon" to the max. potential.
By the way, are you german?
Your "so" reminds me alot of it :)
But to add something different, at first I just wanted to lookup how Thumbrings really work(Because of age of empires haha) and then I found your channel which brought back alot of love for Archery...
Im currently looking for a "club" or something in my area , I attended a "taster course?" (thats what google tells me) when I was younger but I can't remember why I wasn't allowed to continue..
Hi armin, i just checked their site and the draw weight options for this bow are all under 30 pounds. Do you know whats up with that?
That is what they have in stock. You can ask for higher poundage
Can you tell me, is this the brown or dark brown bow? Hard to tell in the video. Thanks
Is there a big and tall bow maker? Its depressing to see such cool bows and not be able to shoot them. My (thumb ring) draw is 35" (38" in Yumi, and Mediterranean 32" (Olympic)
Alibow has a few that draw 36". I think there's also a few other that draw around 34". Af archery has a couple that draw 35" also. Hope this helps
Hi I have a 50 pound bow but it is my first bow
RIP your form, joints, and long term enjoyment 😣
is this fiberglass laminate or only wood?
Glass and wood laminated
my bow also
Hallo Armin, du macht tolle Videos und als ich dein Video zum Daumen Ring auf Deutsch gesehen habe war voller Vorfreude auf verständlichere Videos. Aber leider war das wohl das einzige oder weshalb kommt da nix mehr auf Deutsch. Untertitel wurden zur Not auch gehen. Ich filter mir zwar das wichtigste raus aber um alles verstehen zu können reicht mein Schul Englisch leider doch nicht aus. Gruss aus Altenburg, Thüringen.
ich glaub ich hab 2 videos auf deutsch gemacht. Am besten ist, Du kommst zu einem meiner Kurse in D :D
@@ArminHirmer finde ich da wo Termine?
Is this bamboo core laminated
I looke the Website from Grozer. So many beautifull Bows. I wan' t all of them. Now I have the torture of diziding. And Armin is guilty of that torture. How dare you.
Sooooory
OMG
Pozdrav zo Srbska!
Annnnddd I bought one , oh my myy , I really like my Korean bows , but this just ticks all my boxes , .
the trick is: Bogár Péter, Szimeiszter István mother language is Hungarian ... you know trianon lives here with us😐
master awesome video , maybe a comparison with Jackal Assyrian ;-)
Anyone know of a company that makes a western asiatic angular bow (Egyptian/Assyrian) style bow with a arrow shelf?
You can ask Grozer, sure he can make that custom for you
I don't follow your logic of geometry regarding the 60 degrees at the tips. And you are experienced in Design theory?
Can I get this bow in the US
They ship worldwide
I just did, and the shipping was free!
For your Price/Value, you should go ahead and do the math, dividing the price by your rating. In this case, the smaller the number the better the value. That’s a little counter-intuitive, so I suggest the reciprocal, Value/Price. This would actually mean how many dollars or Euros the buyer would be paying per star, or bang for the buck, as they say. This, of course, would be a subjective rating as you stipulate many times.
This would also start to give you a sense of how consistent you are in your ratings. It would also let you see in your ratings what is most important. Is a second string as important or more important than, say, the draw experience? You can then adjust the weight of each rating by either increasing the number of stars possible or increasing the number of items rated. For example, let’s say you decided that performance was worth twice as much as packaging, then you would have twice as many performance rating items as packaging rating items. Because of the number of items you have in your evaluation, you have weighted each area already, The question is are those weights appropriate to you?
Of course there are sorts of efficiency calculations you could perform, but I understand this is not the purpose of your evaluations and videos. Thanks for your excellent videos. Just trying to help.
The arrow looks like a bullet its so fast going through the air
Wow. Not much else to say, except gimme!
what is the best bow I can buy for 2-300€ ?
depends on what you are looking for, draw length, design, use
Armin Hirmer hi, I want a bow for target hiting and to learn to fire arrows like you and lars andersson , basically to be able to hold 3 arrows in my right hand and shoot them really fast . I dont care about design , i want something practical and not very expansive . thank you so much , you are amazing at what you do .
Niemand weiß wie ein assyrischer Bogen ausgesehen hat , es kann also kein Nachbau sein sondern , bestenfalls eine funktioniernde Interpretation dieser Waffe . 😊
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