I hope they don't start covering petrol vehicles. Those are at least to me not interesting. But EVs and all the related topics like car software and stuff - yeah, a lot of potential in that. I'd watch also!
I'm guessing it'll probably not happen anytime soon. if you watched their video about working at ltt they all said they were making too many videos and wanted to slow it down so another channel would be counter intuitive.
@@visilyrom Then again, despite the repeated desire to slow down they certainly aren't, so who knows. I do want to see a car review with both Jake and Alex though, that would be awesome
@@MrMCDiggles In my opinion, i prefer the less company like videos LMG makes in comparison to Donut, besides, i can have some actual metric useful great units with LMG lmao (last one is a jokey joke) Edit: Maybe i can't have all my units in metric afterall 😭
Alex is a good guy and a fun host, but has literally the worst taste in cars. It's like having someone who wears socks and sandals giving out fashion tips.
Hi EV Fan Girls.. Because a EV wieghs more than a ICE car.. Car Transporters can carry less cars.. so you need More Co2 Blurting Trucks to transport them around the Country.. And the Same with this car.. As all, ship, car shipping transporters have a weight limit, to be efficient.. Guess what you idiots..you need more Ships.. EV Is the biggest lie on Earth..
I'm waiting for the Aptera solar car to appear on this channel, if there's one EV I really want to see succeed then it is Aptera's three wheeled, solar panel covered, user repairable car. I love how it looks, how it operates, and the focus on our right to repair.
Yeah let's see if they actually make any... I was tempted to invest but a bit of research makes me think it is iffy that they ever ship anything. I would love to have one though.
@@chriscalderon1337 Aye, with how excited I am about that car it is easy to count one's eggs before they hatch, the excitement should be saved for when and if they reach production next year.
Definitely. Most of us are still waiting for that break-even point where buying an EV is more or less the same as the cost of an ICE. This one's sorta getting there, but it's still $42k for the base model. That's certainly better than most EVs that have been stuck around $80k-150k. One of these days, that economy of scale is gonna kick in... any day now... I dunno if they have much control over what cars they're able to test drive though. It seems like most of the cars they review are media samples that get passed around, so it depends on what's available. They're usually commenting that they only have a week or two daily driving the cars until they have to pass them on to the next reviewer.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 The economy of scale will kick in when everyone stops making gas cars. Splitting your resources between two different types of cars is obviously going to affect the economy of scale.
@@ghomerhust Agreed, I thought there was definitely some styling inspired by or borrowed from Porsche for the rear end, and it does look good for sure!
@@Just_a_commenter I think one of the higher-ups at Hyundai has gone on record saying they've taken inspiration from Porsche from some of their recent cars, so it's not surprising.
Just want to point out that these kia and Hyundai cars do NOT charge at 350kw. They max out at 240kw which is a huge difference. They technically say that the 350kw charger is capable of the 18 minute charging, not that it charges at 350kw. (I have an Ioniq 5 and love it, less into the Ioniq 6 I saw the other day but I appreciate they are breaking out of the mold a bit)
I'd really like to see cheaper or even very cheap EVs reviewed. A new car is probably neccessary for me in the mid-term and since money is tight I'd appreciate lower price options.
@@Raansu If you account for the much lower fuel and maintenance costs EVs have there are. The Chevy Bolt or Nissan Leaf for example. OP might be better off looking for a used EV or a plug-in hybrid though.
I just bought myself a used VW e-golf, and I can confirm they are fantastic. If you do want to get one used though, highly recommend the SEL package for the heat pump to not waste range on heating in winter, and absolutely get 2017 or later if you need some okay range (they jumped from a 24 kWh battery to a 35 kWh). Other than that it's been excellent for me so far, and I love it to death so far
I haven't seen this car in person, but quite frankly I love the way it looks, front and back. You kinda got a Porsche aesthetic in the back, and an almost...Nissan Zish look in the front...Have always liked the egg shaped cards, and I'm Lovin the Hyundai mullet that goes along with it!
As per usual, Alex is one of the most entertaining reviewers of electric cars on the internet. Great stuff. In my opinion the Ioniq 6 has a very mixed bag of visual choices. The rear end is great, and probably the best part of the car. The front end is unoffensive in a “we took the shape language of a Porsche from 10+ years ago and gave it sharper lines” sort of way. My issue is with the waist line. I *know* that they were intentionally breaking the mold with where they put the apex of that arc, but I cannot stand how it visually drops after the B-pillar. And I’d rather the waist line meet the rear portion of the roof line in a different, maybe less-sharp way.
Really loving the EV content! Now, what I'd like to see you wonderful folks tackle is the Leaf's new cousin, the Nissan Ariya. I'm considering changing my hybrid vehicle in 2-3 years to a BEV, and right now, this seems like a serious contender. And considering Nissan's experience with the Leaf, I'd have good expectations for the Ariya.
If you're 2-3 years away then wait 2-3 years because the battery tech changes every 5 or so, and when the old ones go out of use they become extremely expensive to replace, which you will be required to do unless you're the kind of 'environmentalist' who purchases a new car every 5 years.
I test drove this earlier this week. I noticed that lag when you let off the accelerator too, hopefully they fix that with a software update. The torque doesn't slam you back like a Tesla, it rolls in but it's still quick and fun and overall good handling.
At 1:40 there's no miles conversion. I'd like to see both kilometers and miles represented more consistently please. Some times I see both and other times I only see one of them. I just want to make sure everyone gets their units haha
@@MuppetsSh0w Your comment is *hilarious* because emblems are a fairly significant source of aerodynamic drag. You can prove this simply by looking at any wind tunnel result or virtualization or you can ask Porsche. Porsche uses stickers to replace the emblems for aerodynamic and weight-saving purposes. Such models include: 997 GT2 RS and 996 and 997 RSR/R race cars. Let me know if you're still confused.
I'm 6'4 and love mine. You just have to try it out. It really depends on the length of your torso more than your overall height. My legs are a bit longer I guess. You can drop down the seat pretty good though either way and then if you need to just tilt the back a bit like he says in this video. The amount of legroom in the car is incredible and that is a huge advantage for tall people like me or you.
It'd be nice to have an EV brand comparison once every few years, like a compilation of the EV reviews comparing how refined their UI's are, what flaws they have compared to the competition, basically what makes the different brands stand apart from each other besides just looks. Imo there's basically 3 types of EV's right now, the Tesla's, the high end sports cars that cost way too much for most people, then everything else cause they all just seem to fail at what should be simple things.
I enjoy car reviews on Short Circuit, but I have a small complaint today. Alex mentioned that the lane centering is not as good as in the Mercedes EQS or BMW, but what does that actually mean? Can you provide any data that would demonstrate a difference in lane centering between these cars on comparable roads? I understand it's very opinion-based, but I would like to know why one car (especially a more expensive one) would stay in its lane better than another. Are there differences in sensors? In software? What are the specific numbers? What are the key distinctions?
I’ve driven my og ionic for 4 years now. If you want to decelerate on turns hit the regen paddle. I use that like a gear shifter. If I want to slow down paddle down. The less regen the more it coasts.
@@maxm611 Marketing aside, it's definitely not a coupe size... Nothing against the Ioniq 6; it actually hides its size better than most cars and handsomely at that, but in general, cars are too big these days. It's ironic given the industry's movement toward sustainable platforms. I'd like cars to go back to sub 3000lb weights but alas.
@@WhatisaLee Coupe doesn't really mean anything, it's mostly a marketing term based around the general design language. There's no legal definition for it
Gonna be honest, I absolutely love the look of this car. If EVs were like 20-25% cheaper I think I'd go for this for my next car, after my current Hyundai Accent hatchback
I traded in my EV6 for this and enjoy it way more than I ever enjoyed the EV6. The handling is far more refined and I love the ride. The one big thing I do hate is the silver trim around the infotainment reflects onto the windshield as a bright stripe. Sadly it's hard to vinyl wrap because the glass on the infotainment covers the matte silver trim. That and the US model currently has a graphical bug in the birds' eye camera. It has a black box around the white stock car photo which looks crappy, furthermore the camera button being on the far right is an odd choice.
@@EileenTheCr0w sorry for the late reply. I got a solid trade deal for it and came out as if all I did was pay taxes again to start over. (Like a penalty free lease.)
Something always loved about the catfish camero is that there was no noise or buffeting when driving with the windows down. You hair wouldn’t get blown funny or anything and it was so nice.
2:03 Like the other E-GMP platform vehicles, max DC fast charge speed is 233kW on an appropriate 350kW fast charger. 3:19 Roughly the same size frunk as the AWD EV6 and HI5; enough for your 110V granny charger, Tesla Adapter, V2L adapter, small first aid kit, and a 12V battery booster pack. 7:25 Using Auto Regen level 3 lets you use the radar and cameras to come to a stop via regenerative braking in traffic, or you can hold the left paddle to give you max regen at any time. Still absolutely love my EV6 GT-Line after 2 months and 6000km on Vancouver Island.
I'd love to see a big review of hybrid cars as I am thinking of the latest Toyota Camry for myself. I'm a big boy at 6'4" so it's hard to know what works lol, but I always appreciate Alex getting into the comfort for taller people
Hi EV Fan Girls.. Because a EV wieghs more than a ICE car.. Car Transporters can carry less cars.. so you need More Co2 Blurting Trucks to transport them around the Country.. And the Same with this car.. As all, ship, car shipping transporters have a weight limit, to be efficient.. Guess what you idiots..you need more Ships.. EV Is the biggest lie on Earth..
I'm 6'4 and own this car in the all-wheel drive limited version and yes the roof is close to my head but I don't hit. I think it just depends on how tall your actual torso is more than your height. I actually love how I fit in the car especially because it's so long I can stretch out even with my son's car seat behind the driver side.
All the cars! Maybe some hybrids? I appreciate the mid/cheaper cars because I might actually get one eventually. But the super fancy ones are cool too.
Really loving this from Hyundai. I went from a Hyundai Sonata to a Tesla M3P. I still love the design language that Hyundai is going with. I would be very tempted by an N variant, but would need Hyundai to fix some non-starters for me. Namely, one pedal braking not being a default setting? So one of the best things about an electric car? Super easy fix in software IMO. Then Carplay and Android Auto being required to be plugged in? Requiring plugging in on say an Elantra might be okay, but not on a car that could cost 60K USD. Everything else though is very well thought out!
I think I still prefer the Ioniq 5 as I love a good hatchback but this is a good car from the looks. I REALLY want you guys to give a look at the Maverick hybrid. It's a truck so Alex's review of it will tell me a lot.
Wouldn't covering the back tires and somehow shielding the front tires lower the drag coefficient even more? The rims definitely look pretty but I'm sure people would appreciate increased range even more than wheel aesthetics. I would also add an option to cover the roof and bonnet with solar panels, it would not give unlimited range but it would give some free range every day, at least enough to cover most people's daily commute to and from work, it would be great to never have to visit a charging station during a regular work week. I do appreciate that it's mostly buttons rather than putting everything in the screen so you have to look away from the road to change things, it could do with more recycled plastic though.
A 100W solar panel at an unachievable 100% efficiency for 8 hours a day would give you just over 5 miles a day in the Ioniq 6. It's just not worth it at this point. Add 20 pounds of equipment to a car, and factor in the solar panels would be locked at a flat angle AND it's not always sunny, and its even less worth it. A lot of consumers don't even park in direct sunlight to begin with. Might as well focus on efficiency improvements of the systems they have already. Covering the wheels does work but air curtain aerodynamic wizardry does most of that and people like the look more of exposed wheels. In a practical sense, having 20 inch wheels is worse than a 18-17", yet that's what people want and buy. The 1st gen Honda Insight did not sell very well, even though it was a fuel efficiency marvel.
All you can do is try it. I'm 6'4 and bought one, I love the car. The roofline is pretty low but it really depends on how tall your torso is. I have longer legs and you can really stretch out in this car. I have the seat dropped all the way down and lean back just a bit and it's perfect for me, it's really an amazing car.
Even with cars where it isn't a talking point I often have problems not hitting the roof, so I guess it's just for the best to not start dreaming about this one!
It really looks like a modern take on the Saab 900, I wouldn't have know about the Saab 900 but my teacher in elementary school had two and I really loved looking at it. Weird that not more people are seeing the likeness or maybe it's just me.
We are already at the spot where if you can afford a new car, you can afford a decent EV, look at the recent Tesla price cuts for example, model 3 is really good value already
Nice content as always. I'm quite interested to see the "cheap" EV, because I think it's where you see the most compromises and how well it can be addressed by the manufacturers.
My one gripe is all these manufacturers putting in plug in only Android Auto/Car Play. My experience with it has been nothing to call home about, with a bump in the road disconnecting your phone and then you have to try re-plug it while driving. Wireless with a wireless charging pad is the way to go (as it does consume battery that would otherwise be recharged by the wired connection)
I've always wondered. How do you get this style of charging port door open when it gets iced in the winter? Most doors have little bump outs where you can pry them open, this has nothing. Just pound on it and hope it frees up? That puny motor certainly isn't going to bust it open. Maybe they'll install hair dryers at the charging stations...
In my experience if you can push the BASS through the doors - is better. A lot better. Its great actually. But its tricky to do - fitting 10’’ in a door is a challenge - usually there is not enought space in the door, and you need to fortify the door, the vibrations from 10’’ subs will rattle your door and panels, and you don’t want that. The reason why a bass thrue the door is better is the following: 1) you eliminate the problem of Time correction for the sub (front speakers are about 1 to 1.5 meters away from you, if you put sub in the trunk, thats more than twice the distance - so signal from front speakers will reach you faster than the low end of the sub - you have to correct for that, otherwise you will get moody sound (due to interferences between 2 sound sources) and bass coming from the rear. (In a proper stereo - nothing is coming from the rear! You should hear the stage in front of you! Spaning from right to left pillar, and voice* should be comming from the center of the windshield. Bass guitars and bass drums should also come thru the center) Thats ideal) *=unless purposely mixed NOT to be at the center, thats rare. 2) sound stage - again you want everything up front - if you put sub in the back - you won’t have that. But lets say you have processor, and can adjust the Time correction of the sub - in my experience - that never worked as i wanted - i still can hear the sub from the back. My solution was placing sub in passenger foot well. But that has its own problems. 3) bass fro(m the doors sound better - that one is MY subjective opinion - turns out that my front speakers (Dyn Audio Esotec 3 342 i think - 3 way system) are capable of pushing almost the same amount of bass vs my 10’’ front subwoofer (focal utopia). AND the doors transmit vibration more, so what happens is - when i listen to say clasic rock - not much bass there - the speakers can handle that, i don’t need the sub. But if I listed to say Die Antwoord - Rats Rule (extremely low end song) - the 10’’ sub chokes - it makes almost no sound at frequencies below 30hz. The doors CAN’T play that frequency good either - but you get the vibration transmitted to the leg. - bottom line - i get more ‘apparent’ bass thrue the speakers. ‘Try blending them you might say - Let the sub and the doors play to the lowest note they can!’’- it does not work that way 🙂 - if door speakers and the sub run together, even with TCR - i loose the bass. I have to invert the phase of sub to get back the bass. And its not perfect either - its certainly stronger at some frequencies, but worse in others. Bottom line - more speakers playing in unison - the more problems you get. The only redeeming quality for the sub, is at the end of the day it DOES sound cleaner for the most part (when playing by itself, up to 80hz) But i would trade the front sub for bigger speakers in the doors. (I had a plant of putting 10’’ in the doors, but …well maybe in the future). Problem is - DIY is expensive, and becoming more and more inconvenient, and chances that you will get a good sound are slim - you really have to know what you are doing, and read read read and read material. Then trials. Then measurements - for that at least you need a dedicated calibrated mic… Car manufacturers potentialy have all the tools to make great sound in any car - but i believe most don’t bother, and or fall for marketing (we offer you 17 speaker system! (Why??? What you do with 17 speakers??? How do you even EQ them???? Or do you turn them ON/OFF - only that can somehow make sense - ‘you preffer tweeters on the dash? - here you go” “ prefer tweeters in the pillar? We got you covered!”.). As well as - the placement - i dont belive there is much say from the audio guys where to put the speakers in a car. I think cars come as is - and audio companies have to figure out how to make it sound descent. I, if i was a car manufacturer , would do the following - biggest mid-woofers you can get in the doors, mid range speakers - also in the door, say just above the woofers, tweeters Idealy should also go somewhere next to the other speakers but thats a compromise (the driver will probably obstruct the tweeter, passenger will not hear it) so lest compromise and put them on the dash. Add middle channel (i never did, it has its own trade offs, but its better if you want all occupants to enjoy somewhat correct stage). Thats it. MAYBE add a sub sub for..well extreme low end content. But you would want 12” sub for that. And put it up front in the dash as well if possible - why not. Thats it. 6 channel class-D power amp (offcores i preffer hybrid Tube-Transistor amp like PHAZE audio Buttler amp, but thats unreasonable for most people) with processor for fine tuning .In that setup processor tuning will be minimal.
I just picked up my Model Y Performance a few weeks ago. I had been looking at the Kia EV6 GT, but after Tesla dropped the price on top of qualifying for the tax credits, there was no contest. The EV6 had a much nicer interior, but it also got 100 miles less per charge and cost almost 25k more after rebate. Though, if someone were absolutely dead set on not buying a Tesla, Hyundain/Kia would certainly be my first suggestion.
As a mechanic and overall car enthusiast I would LOVE if you guys started getting under the car and talking about the suspension and drivetrains. Like you mentioned this car is AWD but I believe said single rear motor, id like to see how that setup works. I’m sure there’s some legal/insurance stuff related to having a vehicle lift and walking under cars though.
For me as a German, it looks good. I need something to... use and dont care about 20". Trailer cupping with 1500kg, fast charging... if it can get 350-400km out of the "big battery, RWD" edition at Autobahn speeds of... eh... limited 185km/h. The best thing... it's not a SUV ^^
Just a little detail, but kWh is not the same as kW/h (as described in de little notification in the video). kWh is a unit of energy, while kW/h is the rate of power. Assuming your talking about the battery I guess you meant the former :)
Hyundai is fucking killing it these days. I honestly feel they have a good change to leap forward in automotive market share with how fully they've embraced the electric transition.
I'd really like to see a review of the polestar 2 (or 3 if that comes out when you get round to it). seems like the perfect ev for a lot of people, but I'd wanna see what you think
Shout out to the camera person and the color graders. This miserable day, and you made it look good. Gorgeous background helped, but even so, great job.
What I love about Hyundai is that there's different designs for basically every car. Unlike most of the brands where their roster is just basically the same car a bit resized with different badges
Nice video! Small feedback: The battery capacity unit is kWh and not "kW per hour", and the correct way is "Performance: xxx hp" and not "Horsepower: xxx hp"
WUT. Alex listening to Suchmos is one of the biggest revelations of this year. He just went from "One of my favorite hosts" to "THE ONE" Edit: yeah, no way. Taeko Onuki as well? Damn this guy lmao
nwo if they only offered the limited trim with long range rims and only RWD. this would be the perfect ev.. no idea why they offer the best comfort on the shorter range model
After playing with the configuration options there's no way to get front cooled seats with the longer range wheels. You got your 3 trims, 6 colors, sometimes either white or black seats. To change literally anything else you gotta change the entire trim, which of course comes with features you either don't want or simply don't need. Not like I have enough money to buy one anyway. But if I did, I'd find that quite annoying.
i swear the guy who's working for Hyundai designs is just playing Cyberpunk 2077 on its off time...
I'm okay with that
I wish the guys behind the electric challenger did🥲🥲
Good
Some of my favourite car content on CZcams. I’m so glad LTT is making these. Also if this were a separate channel I would 100% watch it 👀
I do hope some day that they will learn the difference between rims and wheels...
Yeah I'm waiting for them to do a full on car channel. Not just EV too.
I hope they don't start covering petrol vehicles. Those are at least to me not interesting. But EVs and all the related topics like car software and stuff - yeah, a lot of potential in that. I'd watch also!
@@gigakoresh what about a new channel with new staff that still features some of the current car enthusiasts like Jake.
@@chettlar212 they mentioned in that employee interview video that they do want to do that
Man you guys truly need to create a car channel, if it isn’t something that is in the pipeline it at least should be considered
They should do a Collab with donut.
I'm guessing it'll probably not happen anytime soon. if you watched their video about working at ltt they all said they were making too many videos and wanted to slow it down so another channel would be counter intuitive.
@@visilyrom Then again, despite the repeated desire to slow down they certainly aren't, so who knows.
I do want to see a car review with both Jake and Alex though, that would be awesome
@@MrMCDiggles In my opinion, i prefer the less company like videos LMG makes in comparison to Donut, besides, i can have some actual metric useful great units with LMG lmao (last one is a jokey joke)
Edit: Maybe i can't have all my units in metric afterall 😭
Alex is a good guy and a fun host, but has literally the worst taste in cars. It's like having someone who wears socks and sandals giving out fashion tips.
The Ioniq 6 is starting to get popular where I lived, and I cannot state how much I liked it more in real life than any videos could cover
Hi EV Fan Girls..
Because a EV wieghs more than a ICE car..
Car Transporters can carry less cars.. so you need More Co2 Blurting Trucks to transport them around the Country..
And the Same with this car.. As all, ship, car shipping transporters have a weight limit, to be efficient..
Guess what you idiots..you need more Ships..
EV Is the biggest lie on Earth..
Ok then don’t.. gosh
@@kevinagostinello9968 he CAN'T
You didn't like the car so you decided to move?
Ioniq 6 looks hideous. Mazda 6 is a great looking sedan.
I'm waiting for the Aptera solar car to appear on this channel, if there's one EV I really want to see succeed then it is Aptera's three wheeled, solar panel covered, user repairable car. I love how it looks, how it operates, and the focus on our right to repair.
Yeah let's see if they actually make any... I was tempted to invest but a bit of research makes me think it is iffy that they ever ship anything. I would love to have one though.
@@chriscalderon1337 Aye, with how excited I am about that car it is easy to count one's eggs before they hatch, the excitement should be saved for when and if they reach production next year.
would be pretty epic and scifi to have both an aptera and a cybertruck on your driveway.
Hahahaha it’s a scam
But it's so freaking lame in every way except efficiency.
Would love to see more of the cheap EVs, lets see how the current Leaf stacks up to the Bolt since you did that one not too long ago.
BYD atto 3 is a must
And Aptera! Whenever it finally has production models. Lol.
Definitely. Most of us are still waiting for that break-even point where buying an EV is more or less the same as the cost of an ICE. This one's sorta getting there, but it's still $42k for the base model. That's certainly better than most EVs that have been stuck around $80k-150k. One of these days, that economy of scale is gonna kick in... any day now...
I dunno if they have much control over what cars they're able to test drive though. It seems like most of the cars they review are media samples that get passed around, so it depends on what's available. They're usually commenting that they only have a week or two daily driving the cars until they have to pass them on to the next reviewer.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 The economy of scale will kick in when everyone stops making gas cars. Splitting your resources between two different types of cars is obviously going to affect the economy of scale.
Agreed. Lower budget EVs is the most interesting market segment right now, it's where the real EV revolution will happen.
I'd take the IONIQ 5 first, but as far as egg shaped cars go, I'd take the aesthetics of the IONIQ 6 over any of the eggs Mercedes sells.
the butt reminds me of the late 90s 911s, which is a bonus. it's a nice looking car all around.
@@ghomerhust Agreed, I thought there was definitely some styling inspired by or borrowed from Porsche for the rear end, and it does look good for sure!
The front looks really cheap. Like really. Would pick a merc any day over this.
Better than the cube/ crossover crap that we have been forced to "enjoy" so far.
Still waiting on the estate (station wagon) format to be used.
@@Just_a_commenter I think one of the higher-ups at Hyundai has gone on record saying they've taken inspiration from Porsche from some of their recent cars, so it's not surprising.
Alex has come so far in presentation and delivery, dude is srsly great now
I love how Hyundai have somehow managed to make a car that looks far more like a 4-door Porsche than Porsche have ever done.
Indeed, it’s amazing how Porsche screwed it up with the Panamera.
@@tiadaid latest gen panamera is dope, idk what ur talking ab
@@nigmosh65 I don't feel it's dope at all. The rear overhang is too short, making it look frumpy at the back.
are you high?
Umm the Taycan is one of the sexiest 4-doors in existence.
Just want to point out that these kia and Hyundai cars do NOT charge at 350kw. They max out at 240kw which is a huge difference. They technically say that the 350kw charger is capable of the 18 minute charging, not that it charges at 350kw. (I have an Ioniq 5 and love it, less into the Ioniq 6 I saw the other day but I appreciate they are breaking out of the mold a bit)
yep, they did the same mistake for the for all other e-gmp cars they reviewed
They continue to make this dumb mistake.
I'd really like to see cheaper or even very cheap EVs reviewed. A new car is probably neccessary for me in the mid-term and since money is tight I'd appreciate lower price options.
@@Raansu If you account for the much lower fuel and maintenance costs EVs have there are. The Chevy Bolt or Nissan Leaf for example.
OP might be better off looking for a used EV or a plug-in hybrid though.
I just bought myself a used VW e-golf, and I can confirm they are fantastic. If you do want to get one used though, highly recommend the SEL package for the heat pump to not waste range on heating in winter, and absolutely get 2017 or later if you need some okay range (they jumped from a 24 kWh battery to a 35 kWh). Other than that it's been excellent for me so far, and I love it to death so far
i really love the car videos and i also really love the car shots, angles and cinematography in general. very good job
I haven't seen this car in person, but quite frankly I love the way it looks, front and back. You kinda got a Porsche aesthetic in the back, and an almost...Nissan Zish look in the front...Have always liked the egg shaped cards, and I'm Lovin the Hyundai mullet that goes along with it!
It’s revolting.
Hyundai Mullet! LOL!
As per usual, Alex is one of the most entertaining reviewers of electric cars on the internet. Great stuff.
In my opinion the Ioniq 6 has a very mixed bag of visual choices. The rear end is great, and probably the best part of the car. The front end is unoffensive in a “we took the shape language of a Porsche from 10+ years ago and gave it sharper lines” sort of way. My issue is with the waist line. I *know* that they were intentionally breaking the mold with where they put the apex of that arc, but I cannot stand how it visually drops after the B-pillar. And I’d rather the waist line meet the rear portion of the roof line in a different, maybe less-sharp way.
Really loving the EV content!
Now, what I'd like to see you wonderful folks tackle is the Leaf's new cousin, the Nissan Ariya. I'm considering changing my hybrid vehicle in 2-3 years to a BEV, and right now, this seems like a serious contender. And considering Nissan's experience with the Leaf, I'd have good expectations for the Ariya.
Completely agree. I'm in the same spot and I'm thinking 3 years is when I'll upgrade to.
+1 on the Ariya, I'd love an honest Alex take on it
If you're 2-3 years away then wait 2-3 years because the battery tech changes every 5 or so, and when the old ones go out of use they become extremely expensive to replace, which you will be required to do unless you're the kind of 'environmentalist' who purchases a new car every 5 years.
Hyundai killing it once again! Honestly looking to be my next car in 5 years lol
yeah theyre going to be the ones to watch i think. several of their models have already impressed
Good luck with the constant repair costs.
@@ItReallyIsiPODin what world? They are one the most reliable, although not safest, vehicles out tlhere
@@aditya_gupta reliable until your engine catches on fire or your car gets stolen because Hyundai cheaped out on anti theft measures
@@bitbat9 not on every model... by your logic, every porsche would catch fire too and every vw would blow its transmission
the interior with the mood lighting is on point, its no eqs but for sub 50k that interior is perfect
Alex has gained soo much on camera charisma and confidence since he started.
I test drove this earlier this week. I noticed that lag when you let off the accelerator too, hopefully they fix that with a software update. The torque doesn't slam you back like a Tesla, it rolls in but it's still quick and fun and overall good handling.
At 1:40 there's no miles conversion. I'd like to see both kilometers and miles represented more consistently please. Some times I see both and other times I only see one of them. I just want to make sure everyone gets their units haha
Just count them bro
@@TC-iv7dn dude this comment is a year old
@@dragonflame64 I know, I thought about commenting for a few seconds but did it anyway. Do you know the miles to kilometres conversion number?
@@TC-iv7dn I'm pretty sure you divide km by 1.609 but I might be thinking of something else shrug
I actually don’t mind the sticker label. Sure, it doesn’t shine like the genuine article made of metal. But it helps with aerodynamics.
Saying it helps with aerodynamics is like saying taking a dump before getting in helps with efficiency.
@@MuppetsSh0w Your comment is *hilarious* because emblems are a fairly significant source of aerodynamic drag.
You can prove this simply by looking at any wind tunnel result or virtualization or you can ask Porsche.
Porsche uses stickers to replace the emblems for aerodynamic and weight-saving purposes.
Such models include: 997 GT2 RS and 996 and 997 RSR/R race cars.
Let me know if you're still confused.
@@tim3172 Remember kids, always de-badge your cars!
2:09 Has anyone noticed, that for battery capacity it said:
"77 kW Battery Per Hour" - got a bit confused there
yeah. should be "77kWh Battery Capacity" or something
Also tire thickness.
Alex is the reason I started digging into the connection between Ireland and Newfoundland. When he says "arse" he could be a born and bred Irish man.
As a person who is 6’3” or more I appreciate you letting me know I won’t fit.
Keep up the great reviews Alex
I'm 6'4 and love mine. You just have to try it out. It really depends on the length of your torso more than your overall height. My legs are a bit longer I guess. You can drop down the seat pretty good though either way and then if you need to just tilt the back a bit like he says in this video. The amount of legroom in the car is incredible and that is a huge advantage for tall people like me or you.
I know you are still a bit new to reviewing electric cars.
Peak DC charging power is around 230 kW, not 350 kW 😉
yeah it's misleading, you need the 350kW charger to reach peak speed. I have seen someone post 241 kW charge speed in the Ioniq 6.
I was just looking up this car and then BAM ShortCircuit put up a video. LOVE IT. Thank you for your content. I love watching you guys!
In Europe, you can chose between the mirror cameras or normal mirrors
It'd be nice to have an EV brand comparison once every few years, like a compilation of the EV reviews comparing how refined their UI's are, what flaws they have compared to the competition, basically what makes the different brands stand apart from each other besides just looks. Imo there's basically 3 types of EV's right now, the Tesla's, the high end sports cars that cost way too much for most people, then everything else cause they all just seem to fail at what should be simple things.
I enjoy car reviews on Short Circuit, but I have a small complaint today. Alex mentioned that the lane centering is not as good as in the Mercedes EQS or BMW, but what does that actually mean? Can you provide any data that would demonstrate a difference in lane centering between these cars on comparable roads?
I understand it's very opinion-based, but I would like to know why one car (especially a more expensive one) would stay in its lane better than another. Are there differences in sensors? In software? What are the specific numbers? What are the key distinctions?
I’ve driven my og ionic for 4 years now. If you want to decelerate on turns hit the regen paddle. I use that like a gear shifter. If I want to slow down paddle down. The less regen the more it coasts.
The Ionic 5 looked great, too, but this is like they completely redesigned it for coupe size. Hope they keep this streak up!
Coupe?
from what I understand they will do something completely different with every new Ionic
@@WhatisaLee Hyundai's website states "electric sedan featuring coupe styling"
@@maxm611 Marketing aside, it's definitely not a coupe size... Nothing against the Ioniq 6; it actually hides its size better than most cars and handsomely at that, but in general, cars are too big these days. It's ironic given the industry's movement toward sustainable platforms. I'd like cars to go back to sub 3000lb weights but alas.
@@WhatisaLee Coupe doesn't really mean anything, it's mostly a marketing term based around the general design language. There's no legal definition for it
Thsi looks so sick in and outside and the fact that in the EU we get cameras instead of mirrors is so cool
love how the IONIQ 5 looks more, but if this had a fastback I'd consider it too
Gonna be honest, I absolutely love the look of this car. If EVs were like 20-25% cheaper I think I'd go for this for my next car, after my current Hyundai Accent hatchback
I traded in my EV6 for this and enjoy it way more than I ever enjoyed the EV6. The handling is far more refined and I love the ride. The one big thing I do hate is the silver trim around the infotainment reflects onto the windshield as a bright stripe. Sadly it's hard to vinyl wrap because the glass on the infotainment covers the matte silver trim.
That and the US model currently has a graphical bug in the birds' eye camera. It has a black box around the white stock car photo which looks crappy, furthermore the camera button being on the far right is an odd choice.
That's a wild trade
@@EileenTheCr0w sorry for the late reply. I got a solid trade deal for it and came out as if all I did was pay taxes again to start over. (Like a penalty free lease.)
Something always loved about the catfish camero is that there was no noise or buffeting when driving with the windows down. You hair wouldn’t get blown funny or anything and it was so nice.
2:03 "77kW Battery Per Hour"
At what point are the editors going to learn that it's kWh?
2:03 Like the other E-GMP platform vehicles, max DC fast charge speed is 233kW on an appropriate 350kW fast charger.
3:19 Roughly the same size frunk as the AWD EV6 and HI5; enough for your 110V granny charger, Tesla Adapter, V2L adapter, small first aid kit, and a 12V battery booster pack.
7:25 Using Auto Regen level 3 lets you use the radar and cameras to come to a stop via regenerative braking in traffic, or you can hold the left paddle to give you max regen at any time.
Still absolutely love my EV6 GT-Line after 2 months and 6000km on Vancouver Island.
I'd love to see a big review of hybrid cars as I am thinking of the latest Toyota Camry for myself. I'm a big boy at 6'4" so it's hard to know what works lol, but I always appreciate Alex getting into the comfort for taller people
Hi EV Fan Girls..
Because a EV wieghs more than a ICE car..
Car Transporters can carry less cars.. so you need More Co2 Blurting Trucks to transport them around the Country..
And the Same with this car.. As all, ship, car shipping transporters have a weight limit, to be efficient..
Guess what you idiots..you need more Ships..
EV Is the biggest lie on Earth..
I'm 6'4 and own this car in the all-wheel drive limited version and yes the roof is close to my head but I don't hit. I think it just depends on how tall your actual torso is more than your height. I actually love how I fit in the car especially because it's so long I can stretch out even with my son's car seat behind the driver side.
As an irish person everytime Alex says arse it catches me of guard.. not in a bad way at all. just catches me.
Both the EQS and Lucid Air have a drag coefficient of 0.2
Yeah i was also really confused about that.
All the cars! Maybe some hybrids? I appreciate the mid/cheaper cars because I might actually get one eventually. But the super fancy ones are cool too.
1:28 you can tell LMG is still new to car content "20 inches tyre thickness"
ShortCircuit in 5 years be like:
I wear a hat
Dennis wears a hat
And Linus looks over a short wall
If I had the money, I'd be getting this one. The design of the 6 is so nice!
Truly one of the most ugly cars available right now
Really loving this from Hyundai. I went from a Hyundai Sonata to a Tesla M3P. I still love the design language that Hyundai is going with. I would be very tempted by an N variant, but would need Hyundai to fix some non-starters for me. Namely, one pedal braking not being a default setting? So one of the best things about an electric car? Super easy fix in software IMO. Then Carplay and Android Auto being required to be plugged in? Requiring plugging in on say an Elantra might be okay, but not on a car that could cost 60K USD. Everything else though is very well thought out!
my 2022 forte has wireless andriod auto... i wonder if it has something to do with the larger screens?
I think I still prefer the Ioniq 5 as I love a good hatchback but this is a good car from the looks. I REALLY want you guys to give a look at the Maverick hybrid. It's a truck so Alex's review of it will tell me a lot.
The Ioniq 5 is way too close to a crossover SUV for my liking
I love that you guys don't give 2 craps about it raining. Gives the video so much more character!
Wouldn't covering the back tires and somehow shielding the front tires lower the drag coefficient even more? The rims definitely look pretty but I'm sure people would appreciate increased range even more than wheel aesthetics. I would also add an option to cover the roof and bonnet with solar panels, it would not give unlimited range but it would give some free range every day, at least enough to cover most people's daily commute to and from work, it would be great to never have to visit a charging station during a regular work week. I do appreciate that it's mostly buttons rather than putting everything in the screen so you have to look away from the road to change things, it could do with more recycled plastic though.
A 100W solar panel at an unachievable 100% efficiency for 8 hours a day would give you just over 5 miles a day in the Ioniq 6. It's just not worth it at this point. Add 20 pounds of equipment to a car, and factor in the solar panels would be locked at a flat angle AND it's not always sunny, and its even less worth it. A lot of consumers don't even park in direct sunlight to begin with. Might as well focus on efficiency improvements of the systems they have already.
Covering the wheels does work but air curtain aerodynamic wizardry does most of that and people like the look more of exposed wheels. In a practical sense, having 20 inch wheels is worse than a 18-17", yet that's what people want and buy. The 1st gen Honda Insight did not sell very well, even though it was a fuel efficiency marvel.
Give Him his own Car Chanel already!!!😂
The aesthetics of this car has made me follow it very close even tho im broke af to get it
EDIT: i'm 6'3 so fuck me
All you can do is try it. I'm 6'4 and bought one, I love the car. The roofline is pretty low but it really depends on how tall your torso is. I have longer legs and you can really stretch out in this car. I have the seat dropped all the way down and lean back just a bit and it's perfect for me, it's really an amazing car.
Alex jamming out to Taeko Onuki establishes he gets permanent aux cord privileges ❣️
I do not think that "20 inches" describes the "tire thickness".
Even with cars where it isn't a talking point I often have problems not hitting the roof, so I guess it's just for the best to not start dreaming about this one!
I'll take hard matte plastic center console over piano black ANY DAY, ANY TIME!! Thank goodness piano black is on its way out!!!
It's never going to get old seeing Alex head-bobbing to Crab Rave.
It really looks like a modern take on the Saab 900, I wouldn't have know about the Saab 900 but my teacher in elementary school had two and I really loved looking at it.
Weird that not more people are seeing the likeness or maybe it's just me.
I get the Saab look too, though unlike Saab, this doesn't quite look right in my opinion.
I would really love if you would take your time to explore the options of the board system and generally a bit more software view on those new cars
Graphic says 77 kW per hour battery 🤔
Even though I'll probably never be able to afford an EV, I really like watching these videos and learning about the new tech in the industry. Thanks!
One day bud
We are already at the spot where if you can afford a new car, you can afford a decent EV, look at the recent Tesla price cuts for example, model 3 is really good value already
@@frameshade Yeah, but then you have to drive a Model 3. At that point buy a half decent hybrid and have a car that doesn't make you suicidal.
The back of it kinda looks like a Porsche
Love that it's absolutely pissing rain in this video haha
This is close looking to a Porsche 911. Or am I crazy? 🤔
I wouldn't be surprised as some of the designers used to work for BMW and Audi
I just got the limited awd version a couple weeks ago and love it.
FIRST!
Thank you mum and dad for an internet connection.
At 2:04 there is an error in the overlay saying "77kW Battery Per Hour" instead of "77kWh Battery Capacity"
Nice content as always.
I'm quite interested to see the "cheap" EV, because I think it's where you see the most compromises and how well it can be addressed by the manufacturers.
When the laptop your watching on gets a random shout out in the middle of an EV review!
It's been a pretty good laptop so far too!
Watching Alex review cars is just a nice spot to be.
The surrounding environment is so beautiful in this vid. Rain, nature, fog/mist. Nice setting.
Alex just casually talking about his fear of death with nothing blocking stuff from rolling to the driver foot well
My one gripe is all these manufacturers putting in plug in only Android Auto/Car Play. My experience with it has been nothing to call home about, with a bump in the road disconnecting your phone and then you have to try re-plug it while driving. Wireless with a wireless charging pad is the way to go (as it does consume battery that would otherwise be recharged by the wired connection)
I've been so excited for this to be reviewed by the team. Woo!
I've always wondered. How do you get this style of charging port door open when it gets iced in the winter? Most doors have little bump outs where you can pry them open, this has nothing. Just pound on it and hope it frees up? That puny motor certainly isn't going to bust it open. Maybe they'll install hair dryers at the charging stations...
In my experience if you can push the BASS through the doors - is better. A lot better. Its great actually. But its tricky to do - fitting 10’’ in a door is a challenge - usually there is not enought space in the door, and you need to fortify the door, the vibrations from 10’’ subs will rattle your door and panels, and you don’t want that.
The reason why a bass thrue the door is better is the following:
1) you eliminate the problem of Time correction for the sub (front speakers are about 1 to 1.5 meters away from you, if you put sub in the trunk, thats more than twice the distance - so signal from front speakers will reach you faster than the low end of the sub - you have to correct for that, otherwise you will get moody sound (due to interferences between 2 sound sources) and bass coming from the rear. (In a proper stereo - nothing is coming from the rear! You should hear the stage in front of you! Spaning from right to left pillar, and voice* should be comming from the center of the windshield. Bass guitars and bass drums should also come thru the center) Thats ideal) *=unless purposely mixed NOT to be at the center, thats rare.
2) sound stage - again you want everything up front - if you put sub in the back - you won’t have that. But lets say you have processor, and can adjust the Time correction of the sub - in my experience - that never worked as i wanted - i still can hear the sub from the back. My solution was placing sub in passenger foot well. But that has its own problems.
3) bass fro(m the doors sound better - that one is MY subjective opinion - turns out that my front speakers (Dyn Audio Esotec 3 342 i think - 3 way system) are capable of pushing almost the same amount of bass vs my 10’’ front subwoofer (focal utopia). AND the doors transmit vibration more, so what happens is - when i listen to say clasic rock - not much bass there - the speakers can handle that, i don’t need the sub. But if I listed to say Die Antwoord - Rats Rule (extremely low end song) - the 10’’ sub chokes - it makes almost no sound at frequencies below 30hz. The doors CAN’T play that frequency good either - but you get the vibration transmitted to the leg. - bottom line - i get more ‘apparent’ bass thrue the speakers. ‘Try blending them you might say - Let the sub and the doors play to the lowest note they can!’’- it does not work that way 🙂 - if door speakers and the sub run together, even with TCR - i loose the bass. I have to invert the phase of sub to get back the bass. And its not perfect either - its certainly stronger at some frequencies, but worse in others. Bottom line - more speakers playing in unison - the more problems you get. The only redeeming quality for the sub, is at the end of the day it DOES sound cleaner for the most part (when playing by itself, up to 80hz) But i would trade the front sub for bigger speakers in the doors. (I had a plant of putting 10’’ in the doors, but …well maybe in the future).
Problem is - DIY is expensive, and becoming more and more inconvenient, and chances that you will get a good sound are slim - you really have to know what you are doing, and read read read and read material. Then trials. Then measurements - for that at least you need a dedicated calibrated mic…
Car manufacturers potentialy have all the tools to make great sound in any car - but i believe most don’t bother, and or fall for marketing (we offer you 17 speaker system! (Why??? What you do with 17 speakers??? How do you even EQ them???? Or do you turn them ON/OFF - only that can somehow make sense - ‘you preffer tweeters on the dash? - here you go” “ prefer tweeters in the pillar? We got you covered!”.). As well as - the placement - i dont belive there is much say from the audio guys where to put the speakers in a car. I think cars come as is - and audio companies have to figure out how to make it sound descent.
I, if i was a car manufacturer , would do the following - biggest mid-woofers you can get in the doors, mid range speakers - also in the door, say just above the woofers, tweeters Idealy should also go somewhere next to the other speakers but thats a compromise (the driver will probably obstruct the tweeter, passenger will not hear it) so lest compromise and put them on the dash. Add middle channel (i never did, it has its own trade offs, but its better if you want all occupants to enjoy somewhat correct stage). Thats it. MAYBE add a sub sub for..well extreme low end content. But you would want 12” sub for that. And put it up front in the dash as well if possible - why not. Thats it. 6 channel class-D power amp (offcores i preffer hybrid Tube-Transistor amp like PHAZE audio Buttler amp, but thats unreasonable for most people) with processor for fine tuning .In that setup processor tuning will be minimal.
I just picked up my Model Y Performance a few weeks ago. I had been looking at the Kia EV6 GT, but after Tesla dropped the price on top of qualifying for the tax credits, there was no contest. The EV6 had a much nicer interior, but it also got 100 miles less per charge and cost almost 25k more after rebate.
Though, if someone were absolutely dead set on not buying a Tesla, Hyundain/Kia would certainly be my first suggestion.
As a mechanic and overall car enthusiast I would LOVE if you guys started getting under the car and talking about the suspension and drivetrains. Like you mentioned this car is AWD but I believe said single rear motor, id like to see how that setup works. I’m sure there’s some legal/insurance stuff related to having a vehicle lift and walking under cars though.
AWD means one motor in the front and one in the back.
For me as a German, it looks good. I need something to... use and dont care about 20". Trailer cupping with 1500kg, fast charging... if it can get 350-400km out of the "big battery, RWD" edition at Autobahn speeds of... eh... limited 185km/h. The best thing... it's not a SUV ^^
Just a little detail, but kWh is not the same as kW/h (as described in de little notification in the video). kWh is a unit of energy, while kW/h is the rate of power. Assuming your talking about the battery I guess you meant the former :)
I think they ment "Battery Per Hour" like kWh/h which is still dumb
Hyundai is fucking killing it these days.
I honestly feel they have a good change to leap forward in automotive market share with how fully they've embraced the electric transition.
I'd really like to see a review of the polestar 2 (or 3 if that comes out when you get round to it). seems like the perfect ev for a lot of people, but I'd wanna see what you think
Shout out to the camera person and the color graders. This miserable day, and you made it look good. Gorgeous background helped, but even so, great job.
those pixels on the steering wheel are actuall morse code for hyundai!
Bose: it sounds good because we told you it does...
What I love about Hyundai is that there's different designs for basically every car. Unlike most of the brands where their roster is just basically the same car a bit resized with different badges
Every Car Electric car that does not have the outline for a front radiator gets a huge plus in my book.
I'd love to see y'all do a Top Gear style road trip series. It'd be really entertaining!
The front gives me old school Hyundai coupe/Hyundai Tiburon vibes love it
Nice video!
Small feedback: The battery capacity unit is kWh and not "kW per hour", and the correct way is "Performance: xxx hp" and not "Horsepower: xxx hp"
I wasn't sure what I thought about the design when I first saw it but now I love it.
This is what the first Panamera should've looked like.
Really want to see your perspective on the BMW i4, have had mine since early may and wonder how you think it lines up with the rest of the market.
LTT needs to have a whole car channel fr 😤
WUT. Alex listening to Suchmos is one of the biggest revelations of this year. He just went from "One of my favorite hosts" to "THE ONE"
Edit: yeah, no way. Taeko Onuki as well? Damn this guy lmao
I was so surprised and honestly I'm a little shocked but happy. I want to have a convo with him about his music now haha
nwo if they only offered the limited trim with long range rims and only RWD. this would be the perfect ev.. no idea why they offer the best comfort on the shorter range model
LTT car channel is what needs to happen next 🔥
It's nice to see a Citypop enjoyer 11:09 ☺
We've got an Ioniq 6 on backorder, arriving within the next month! Super happy about this video 👌
After playing with the configuration options there's no way to get front cooled seats with the longer range wheels. You got your 3 trims, 6 colors, sometimes either white or black seats. To change literally anything else you gotta change the entire trim, which of course comes with features you either don't want or simply don't need.
Not like I have enough money to buy one anyway. But if I did, I'd find that quite annoying.
Not asking for more pixels to drive…. bruh u even a true gamer 😂😂😂
Cheaper cars ! Love this segment ! Make Linus approve a car channel hahahaha