Let's Talk About the 2022 Sight & Sound Poll...
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- Every ten years, a group of film experts casts their ballots to determine 'the greatest film of all time.' I break down the latest edition, the surprising new film at #1, and how this poll differed from others in Sight & Sound's prestigious history.
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0:00 - What is the S&S poll?
2:34 - Big changes in 2022
6:15 - BFI vs orthodoxy
12:05 - Directors vs critics lists
13:49 - Jeanne Dielman
18:50 - The Ti West dilemma
26:26 - Advice for 2032 - Zábava
Dan is my favorite critic because I find him to be consistently intellectually honest. Thank you, Dan. I'm sure we could disagree about a number of things, but we would do it in a constructive manner.
That's the important thing - art is often about disagreement, but it should always be in a constructive manner. A real discourse.
He is more a reviewer than a critic. He almost never justifies his impressions beyond his taste.
I know twitter has dumb controversies all the time, and this one regarding director's top ten lists didn't disappoint. Pretty much 100% agree with what you said.
Someone's top ten is obviously and should always be personal, and that includes how they want to define the task of compiling a top ten list.
I just want to say that Dan is the only person that can make me sit 30 min and watch a video on a poll I never knew existed. 💪🏽 And on movies I have no interest in ever seeing. But like he said, isn’t that the purpose of art? It’s your relationship to it, not anyone else’s. I did expect Jaws to be in his list. He might still be upset at the teenagers! 🤣
I would recommend watching some of the films on this list. It's a good way to find new experiences and see what this art form has to offer besides what you already know.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@timonsteup2877 I know, I know. I just know me and I know that I’m gonna be half way through this lady waiting in a bank line and be like “what am I doing with my life?” And go and watch Die Hard for the 150th time. 🤦🏽♂️
@@reignofjerm Well they are not all like that 🤣
I was born in 1990 . My favorite films as follows
Network
Paris texas
Alice in the cities
Raging bull
Vertigo
Chinatown
In a lonely place
Leave her to heaven
Imitation of life
The godfather
The seven samurai
Back to the future
Jaws .
More than ten but whatever i adore those movies
Some of my favourite movies would be considered 'safe picks' like Dr Strangelove or 12 Angry Men.
But then Galaxy Quest and Uncle Buck are some of the best times i've had watching a film.
Critics' lists are more of a guide to well made films you might enjoy.
Hell yeah I just watched Citizen Kane last week and it is surely one of the most influential movie of all time, but nothing can beat the feeling of watching Rush Hour when I was young 😂
I never knew about this poll before, but now that I do, I definitely want to look for it in the future. Thanks Dan for taking the time to talk about this!
That was a beautiful Dan Rant!
Thank you.
Absolutely LOVED this video, Dan. Great commentary and also great list!
Thank you for your thoughtful, informative commentary and sharing your love of film Dan! I absolutely love your Top Ten list!
This is one of the best videos you've made on this channel. Lots of great discussion of how we evaluate art, and why that is very complicated and yet very important.
I tried to make a top 10 list of my own. It's hard because I have only seen a fraction of the movies you or the people from the Sight & Sound poll have seen. So my list is a bit on the basic side, but I think these all at least belong in the conversation. I put mine in alphabetical order too.
12 Angry Men
The Apartment
The Empire Strikes Back
Fantasia
The Fellowship of the Ring
The Godfather
Goodfellas
Groundhog Day
My Neighbor Totoro
Pulp Fiction
This is such an interesting video. Bravo to you for navigating this touchy topic with such a level head and an open mind. What a fascinating analysis, one that is accessible yet in-depth. Thank you for this!
Great video, Dan. Love hearing your analysis of film criticism.
Great video Dan!
Dan hit on something great. While overall we can all agree that some films are great, our personal top 10 should be personal and therefore wildly different and beyond criticism.
I'd love to see if they did two lists. First list of what you think are the top ten films ever, and a second list asking what are your personal favorite/enjoyable films.
I know my answers would be very different. Some films are amazing and influential (like 2001) but I'd much rather rewatch Jurassic Park, and I think my most watched film is Pocco Rosso.
A most enjoyable film list would be nice for sure, but I think I would trust regular people more than I would trust critics to list the films they most enjoy without being influenced by what they think they should say.
My toddler really likes Porco Rosso. Fun movie.
Top 10 lists should be personal AND universal.
I agree. The IMDb 250 is actually a really great list for that.
It's hard to argue against Citizen Kane on a technical and cultural level, but it's not a movie I'd throw on for fun. Jurassic Park, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the King are all in that category and, not as a coincidence, ranked high on the IMDb list
Loved the detail breakdown, Dan!
Great video Dan! Really enjoyed the analysis and breakdown of the history of the poll.
I am confident more than “3 of you stuck around” 😊
Thank you for explaining all of what the sight and sound is, as well as why it was buzzing. It had hit my feed and I had NO idea what it was or why
Glad you covered this Dan
The best video I've seen about the poll. Awesome video, you just earned a sub!
Christmas came a week early! Been waiting for this video.
Well said. Thank you.
A fascinating discussion. Representing all viewpoints cannot be the task of one individual... it is the reason we must open up the list to as many individuals as possible.
I loved this video and found your take to be incredibly spot on. While I might not agree with all of your top 10 list I can understand, appreciate and respect it. And I always enjoy hearing your take on anything related to tv and movies! Thanks for doing what you do 🙂
great vídeo!! love your thoughts on cinema. truly inspiring
I did not know anything about this poll before this video, so thank you for explaining and giving some background on it. I also really appreciate your points about the subjectivity of art, and that people's personal top ten lists will be subjective. I can't stand when people feel obligated to name certain things as their favorite just to appease the public's opinion on a what a top ten list should be.
Adding up how diverse a list is has little to do with the qualities of the films. If the first 80 years of cinema were almost completely dominated by male directors it strikes me as strange that there could be possibly be enough time yet to make any substantial parity in the quantity or quality of films made by women. Sight and Sound has obviously leaned against the idea of there being any canon whatsoever. The IMDb Top 100 for all of it's faults, and there are many, strikes me as being a bit closer to the truth.
I think it’s good to make a list,it gives you an idea of other films you may never thought of watching,and try to get to watch them if time,money,opportunity ect allow.”Shaking up the tree” is good.Keep doing it
Looking like a new camera, if so I love it!
Listening to the full video despite not knowing or caring about the S&S Poll: the appeal of a Dan video is real.
My favourite video you've ever made. Also here's to In the Mood for Love getting the #1 spot in 2032!
Thank you Dan for making a great video on this famous list.
BTW I predict Jeanne Dielman will not be #1 in the 2032 ranking. I look at the Directors List as the better ranking.
I must say, you're the one person that can transcend his passion through YT in such way. I personally couldn't list my 10 favorites movies of all times because it changes depending on your mood, on your age and also on your memory frankly. But well done talking so well. I really didn't care about this list until I saw your video. And now I'm all worked up and can't wait to see 2032 list! How?! How did you do that!?!?
Of course, a 10 favorite movies of all time is going to depend on everything you listed and will change over time. That doesn't mean that whatever your 10 favorites right this moment is meaningless. And that what the S&S poll does, it captures a moment in time. In 2022, the consensus of these critics and directors are these movies. I think anyone who actually cares about movies should seek out most of these if they haven't seen them already. I've seen every movie on both lists except for one.
Great content!!
THANK YOU DAN…! ! !
I love seeing a deep dive into a topic like this. There is so much history and nuance that colours this conversation. Broad assessments of whether the list is "good" or "bad" are far less interesting than the patterns, rules, and behaviours that shape what the list is and how it has changed over time.
Great video man, subscribed
This video is one of those conversations we didn't know we needed, but I'm sure as hell Dan felt the urgency to let out.
I learn a lot through this video. Thank U very much!!!
My personal top 10 vs my Sight and Sound top 10 cause the qualifications are different.
My personal Top 10 are
10. Wizard of Oz
09. Rocky
08. Do the Right Thing
07. Forrest Gump
06. The Godfather
05. Citizen Kane
04. Boyhood
03. 2001 a Space Odyssey
02. Eraserhead
01. Pulp Fiction
Dan, you are amazing. Thanks for putting together this video & opening my eyes to something that I knew nothing about!
I'll have to find this & check out as many movies as I can.
And lastly, there was a portion when talking about top 10's is EXACTLY why I haven't come up with a top 10.
[I think everyone here can sympathize with what I'm about to say]
It is *VERY DIFFICULT* to narrow down a list of movies as there could be several number ones depending on mood & criteria. It's just difficult.
Great video! Always appreciate you!
This is a greasy breakdown of the list. Thank you Dan!
Very interesting and insightful video 👍
The director's list is more interesting. It also has multiple blockbusters, which I was not expecting.
Shout out to you, Dan, for being one of the most level-headed critics on the Internet. I always appreciate your perspective!
Excellent commentary and well-articulated thoughts, as always!
interested seeing Sight and Sound's opinion of the list throughout the decades
The gist I get is that Sight & Sound are like STAR WARS fans: they say "give us YOUR vision!" and then the turn around and say "Yeah, your vision was wrong!"
This was a great commentary, Dan; both well-considered and passionate. Thanks for mentioning the evolution of the Sight & Sound Poll as well as the changes to how it was conducted. There is a lot to consider but, in the end, this list reflects the times we are living in and especially how art and politics mix. That said, there will be some well-deserved attention to movies that have, otherwise, not languished. Discussion is fruitful but criticism towards the tastes of others is reductive. By the way, I thought your own Top 10 List was pretty solid. Keep up the sterling work!
As a French person Dan’s pronunciation of “beau travail” made my day.
LOLLLLLL
As a Belgian person Dan’s pronunciation of Jeanne Dielman made my day 😂
@@thec695 As a fellow Belgian, spotting a fellow Belgian here made my day!
@@thec695 Belgians don’t even have their own language
@@gregbors8364 other than Flemish...
Haven't commented in a while but I just had to jump in here. I fully agree with your points Dan. Into every movie I go into I have an open mind and hope to get the best out of it. These lists should serve as healthy film discussion and I hate to see people being criticised for their film opinions.
Great video! Would love to see a follow up now that the full 250 is out
This the one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. Imagine telling someone that they HAVE to like a movie
You’re absolutely right. Making a list like this in retrospect is silly. Art is subjective. That said, as a film lover and nerd, I love the conversation this list always sparks. For me, I’ve seen some of the films on this list. Some I love, and a couple I don’t particularly care for. That said, I did get something out of all of them. I am looking forward to watching the ones I haven’t seen for that reason alone.
Great commentary Dan! It reminds me of all those gourmet chef's who preach/practice pretentious cuisine while secretly harboring Cheese Whiz in the back of their refrigerators.
This was fascinating I had no idea about any of this and I consider myself a huge movie dork.
lol. So The Seventh Seal isn't as great as Get Out? Sight and Sound has blown what little credibility they had left.
By critics...for critics.
As a French person, I can say that your pronunciation is adorable 🙂 Keep up the good work!
Right back atcha! Thank you!
100% people should be able to choose the 10 films they appreciate the most. For some that might be all foreign language films. For others, all western language films. For some, all gay cinema. It's up to the Sight & Sound selectors to make sure the people being polled are diverse, not the people themselves to try to pick a diverse list for the sake of it. That would lead to dishonest lists, which would be worthless
Great video Dan! I've been obsessed with the S&S poll since I first heard of it in Roger Ebert's Home Video Companion as a kid in the 80s. Minor correction - Sunrise dropped to #11 in this year's poll, not 33(think you were looking at it's ranking in the directors poll)
I loved Ebert's personal top 10 that he submitted to Sight and Sound. I watched all 10 films he nominated and enjoyed all of them.
What an interesting video!
This was fascinating, thank you!
I only have two movie I would call my alltime-favourites (so far). Donnie Darko and Call me by your name.
I must say I'm a little torn. While Sight and Sound was consistent in asking for "change and a new mindset", when they didn't get the change they wanted they kept changing things until they did. Is that a genuine result? Maybe we have movies that simply stand the test of time? Thank you for your insight. Always appreciated.
@@mabusestestament I think you might be underestimating each of these movies. Get Out and Parasite do feel like they created a shift in cinema. And Portrait of a Lady On Fire has had a huge backing from countries other than the US. I think there's a good each all three of these are still Top 100 in 2032.
[Natalie Imbruglia would like to know your location]
When it comes down to it if they had kept polling the exact same pool of people and their direction to those people to try to look to new voices and broaden their horizons fell on deaf ears then they had to bring in new people.
@@mabusestestament parasite will go up if anything lol
@@mabusestestament I think even though they all came out so recently they are already seen as modern classics. Especially Parasite, and Portrait.
Great commentary! I'm one of the three people who watched to the end. Glad to see Fury Road on your personal top 10. :-)
Any top 10 list that includes Aladdin and The Lion King gets an A+ in my book.
I urge you guys/ gals/ NBs to give these films a chance. I was surprised at how much I fell in love with golden age Hollywood and of course independent films always struck a chord with me but the 70s is probably the greatest decade in film history so give those a shot. Every decade has a different thing to offer so go out there and experience these snapshots of time. It’s amazing and although you won’t love all of them I think you’ll be surprised at how much is worth watching. I was shocked at how much I loved Hitchcock, I never thought he’d be one of my favorites. Paul Newmans catalogue is magnetic and Cary Grant has become one of my favorite Hollywood stars. If you want something to leave you shocked and confused give David Lynch a chance to leave you stupefied. He’s a goat imo.
I agree with your respect for 1970s cinema in regards to *American* (US) filmmaking given that was the height of the American New Wave/New Hollywood movement, where the money, power, and infrastructure of major Hollywood studios were used under relatively unparalleled creative freedom by the first generation of college/film school-educated auteurs (e.g. Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg, William Friedkin, George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, Brian de Palma). Other national film cultures experienced auteur-driven, reactionary movements at different times (e.g. Parallel Cinema in India, the French New Wave, etc.).
Always a lot to go into with these lists. At the very least I’m happy to see some animated films finally make the list. A list of the best films ever made that don’t have at least one animated film always feel a bit incomplete.
The early Disney animations are the most worthy of being on this list.
For me, animation is a separate category. When i made my popular music list, i included EVERYTHING EXCEPT Jazz and Classical which i consider separate categories.
Glad to be one of the three people that stuck around till the end.😅
Hmm... two things I think about when rankings (including my own) come out:
1. Not many rankings, and NO GOAT rankings (FFS - how does anyone say X is forever the greatest?! What, nothing will come out in the future that will push it down the list? NOTHING?!) survive a second look. There are just too many amazing films in too many genres, with too many outstanding performances, exploring too many important subjects and/or themes, etc., etc., to choose from. You're forever going, "Damn, I forgot all about that flick. It was [insert superlative here]!"
2. These lists are always bound by the time they came out, they are AWLAYS 'OF THIS TIME'. They are also ALWAYS bound by the expressed and implicit bias (intended and unintended) of the list creators' chosen criteria, and of the chosen contributors. And this does have a value. While I don't think this was necessarily Dan's intention, I now want to explore all the Sight and Sound lists just to see how the cool kids' thinking has changed over the years.
One more thing - there can be no more an orthodox institution than the British Film Institute (And AMPAS, the AFI, and others of their "class".) and no more orthodox an activity than taking it upon themselves to define the "film canon".
Yeah, "if the list is compiled of white men it is of all time, because then the selection is not biased, but if it's not it's of this time and it is biased" might be one of the more insane things I have heard in a while.
@@1998Cebola 🤣 yup!
Amazing stuff Dan. But a bit disappointed you wouldn't put your personal #1 in your top 10 list.
Great rant. I would try to include my favorites along with the films I consider the greatest….the second would be somewhat different from the first.
I found it interesting that under top 10 movie categories there was one for "gangster films" but not horror.
This was a great rundown of the poll(s) and the factors driving the results. There's a lot of "stop the steal" hysteria going about, and it's refreshing to get your broad perspective and incisive insights. The only thing I'd add regarding Jeanne Dielman is that, with Akerman, there's one "clear" choice for a film to include. As with Welles, producing a blazing masterpiece at the tender age of 25 tended to obscure the rest of her impressive output (no more so than with her follow-up, Les Rendez-vous d'Anna). With directors like Hitchcock there are many competing for a place. The same goes for Bresson, and I always like to say that with Jeanne Dielman Akerman out-Bressons Bresson.
My own alphabetical list would also skew more modern: All About My Mother (1999, Pedro Amadóvar); Annie Hall (1977, Woody Allen); Carol (2015, Todd Haynes); Cléo from 5 to 7 (1962, Agnès Varda); The Green Ray (1986, Éric Rohmer); Household Saints (1993, Nancy Savoca); Jules and Jim (1962, François Truffaut); Long Day's Journey Into Night (2019, Bi Gan); Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019, Céline Sciamma); and Les Rendez-Vous d'Anna (1978, Chantal Akerman). I thoroughly believe that there's room on every list for something completely idiosyncratic and off-the-way like Household Saints, although I have solid artistic reasons as well for ranking it.
I happen to big a big Akerman fan: my covid project was working through the entire filmography of Varda, Akerman, Denis, Sciamma, and (Mati) Diop. Akerman is best appreciated for the totality of her work, so intriguing are the crosscurrents of themes, preoccupations, and techniques across her catalogue. At first, her formalism makes her hard to approach and even intimidating, but then the viewer finds oneself in an ongoing relationship with a bracing creative mind.
An interesting tidbit for you: In 1978 the famous journal for French film bros, Les Cahiers du Cinéma, began writing about popular American movies for the first time since the 1950s. It published reviews and an appreciation of the new release, Jaws ... in the same issue where Jeanne Dielman was reviewed!
That t-shirt is dope.
Jeanne Dielman is definitely worth seeing. But Vertigo is still my choice
Three of us? 🤣🤣🤣 Way to underestimate how much we really enjoy your content, whatever it is you decide to talk about.
14:46 - excuse me, but what is 'antinthiness' (sic) do you mean 'antithesis'?
You made my heart miss a beat when you said "Bicycle Thief with Charlie Chaplin". Yes you did. Or at least you said those words in that order :)
Thank you Dan for talking about this, really interesting discussion about list-making. I’m about to do a Top 100 Greatest Films series on my CZcams channel, and I think the best thing to do is encourage objectivity (in regards to impact and execution of filmmaking techniques), but also for voters to include what they think are the best movies ever made to them. Also, would it be cool if I added the 10 movies you mentioned to my poll for the countdown?
I appreciate the nuanced take, I found it hard to disagree with much you said hehe
could've done without the Jeanne Dielman spoilers but great video
Man this was a great fucking video
Dan I’ll love you forever for having Pinocchio on your list. You’re a legend 😃😃
Ti West's list looks like the syllabus for a film class at a community college.
For a few years I worked a couple blocks from an avant-garde video store that carried a lot of movies like this, and would get things because they recommended them (particularly in French because I am close to fluent). Until now I was unaware of the existence of this movie. Doesn't mean they didn't have it. But maybe they didn't want to recommend a 3-hour movie whose premise and conclusion were easily guessable before I read any of the descriptions...
One of my favorite things to do and read about for decades, i would never think that making favorite movie lists is silly.
I can never seem to decide upon the 10 best color films ive ever seen, but i can do 7 and here they are in order of awesomeness...
#1 - War And Peace - 1967
#2 - Lawrence Of Arabia - 1962
#3 - 2001 A Space 0dyssey - 1968
#4 - Apocalypse Now - 1979
#5 - French Connection - 1971
#6 - North By Northwest - 1959
#7 - Singin In The Rain - 1952
But if i had to decide upon 3 more favorite color films they would probably be...
#8 - Star Wars - 1977
#9 - Jaws - 1975
#10 - Exorcist - 1973
And thats 2 for director William Friedkin.
Heres 3 more strong possibilities...
#8 - Kwaidan - 1964
#9 - Come And See - 1985
10 - Vertigo - 1958
And thats 2 for director Alfred Hitchcock.
Some more powerful contenders...
Ran - 1985, Dersu Uzala - 1975, Rear Window - 1954, Umbrellas Of Cherbourg - 1964, Shane - 1953 and on and on it goes.
I always find the director top 10s more interesting and indicative of the canon than the 100 list itself.
Wild prediction: Everything Everywhere All at Once will be in the next top 100 a decade from now
Since this poll has come out and the Directors 104 films I have managed to watch films I hadn't seen and can now say I have watched 97 films of the main poll and 96 films of the Directors poll.
Recently subscribed, fascinated by MovieTube as well as movies. Have to ask: what's the multiplier on views, etc., for focusing on awards, polls, etc., rather than on the qualities of the movies themselves?
I love the phrase "The wrongs of the past" - some critics were asked to list ten films they love, and then they did. There are no wrongs there, and there should be no wrong answers. As soon as one starts thinking about what others will think about your list, rather than what ten films do I love above all others, the list is meaningless.
Should Sight and Sound actively seek out a list that is representative? Sure, why not. Should they add unqualified people to the list to make up the numbers? No. That said, I have no reason to think that they would have to, only that they shouldn't.
Its also weird that they see the list having some constantcy and get miffed, rather than celebrating the enduring quality of those films, and celebrating the wonder of film, that it can be replayed and enjoyed by subsequent generations.
Videos like this are why Dan is a must watch. His analysis is great and critical of the list for all the right reasons. I get the whole need to diversify the list, but to force diversity will lead to major problems. People love different movies, no one is wrong for thinking Half Baked is the greatest movie ever. We all like different things, and everyone is right to have their own opinion. As Dan said, this is art and it is between you and the art. Dan, THANK YOU FOR THIS
Dude. Never seen you before. Your video is perfect.
Great analysis! Interesting thoughts on orthodoxy and elitism too!
where can I see those directors' personal lists?
Loved this video. Long time fan of Dan and I think this is probably the best and might be the most culturally and critically important video he has ever made. I think there is a whole other video within this one about bringing the "elitism" within the critic community into light and encouraging people to be more open minded and accepting of other people's likes and dislikes.
This is so spot on! I love how you discuss the philosophical implications of the margin becoming the center, and what that means for everyone. So wise and fair.
Oh no. They told Fellini to "get ouuuuuut"
Great, great video Dan.
One thing that I have always had a difficult time reconciling is the greatness of a film (in terms of technical and cultural merit) and audience enjoyment of said film.
For example, 2001: A Space Odyssey is an amazingly MADE film...and I hate it. I have watched it 3 times and I just do not get the appeal. It is a good film that I find boring and contentious.
I consider myself as someone with sophisticated film viewing habits (I love the Criterion Collection) and I was a film student at one time. I have seen and loved M, Bicycle Thieves, The Rules of the Game, etc...and I own and enjoy all of them.
However, some of my favorite films include: Shawshank Redemption, Excalibur, and The Crow.
I guess my point is: the greatest films need to be technical and cultural achievements AND are enjoyable to watch.
This is the first time I have heard of Jeanne Dielman. I looked it up and everything I have read makes it sound like a miserable slog to get through.
Good discussion; I personally liked 2001 but it's because during my watch I tried to put myself in the role of the characters. What if I was trapped in space and a sentient A.I. was capable of reading my mouth movements? If you try to place yourself in the situation sometimes it helps. I agree though, at times there was too much time spent on slow moving planning shots and it felt like it was taking forever. I understand why folks hate it, my husband was the same way.
I think a film's success is if they did anything technically great and if it's well remembered in 5 years or so after it released. To me a strong film needs staying power even if its remembered in a negative light as long as its remembered or quoted by people. I liked your outlook too though. It does help if the vast majority of an audience enjoyed said film and not just give it adoration for its technology etc.
If you leave tiktok for a while maybe you'll get a normal attention span again. 2001 is pure spectacle, it being here shows that Hollywood blockbuster moviemaking is still severly over valued.
@@1998Cebola You don't need to be nasty simply because someone has a different opinion than you.
And this is why the IMDb Top 250 list is the only list you should care about when figuring out what to put on. It's a consensus of what normal people like and that's how you get Shawshank, The Dark Knight and Lord of the Rings, all movies I'd much rather watch than 2001 or Jeanne Bielman
@@mabusestestament See...I love Schindler's List. I have seen it like 4-5 times. It is well-paced, a great lead character, beautifully shot, and even has moments of levity. And that ending!
It might be a difficult watch. However, it is an uplifting movie about hope and humanity. I would definitely consider it entertaining.
As always, great watch. Dan is about the only person who can make a video about something like this and make a lot of great observations in a way that provokes thought while not being confrontational.
That being said, I VEHEMENTLY disagree with the philosophy behind this poll. You can’t just keep running an experiment until it gets you the result you wanted, and I think this poll isn’t any different. It’s a definite skewed sample, especially when you consider the potential backlash (Ty West) for not backing what I would consider a new orthodoxy. Granted you could argue it was skewed before, but to act as though it’s only a problem when it’s white and male is dishonest. It also depreciates the art itself, reducing them to mere figureheads that represent a manufactured narrative about film. To see something like The Godfather or Easy Rider reduced to “white, classist” films that are not deserving of inclusion just rubs me the wrong way. And in regards to the new #1, it is more classicist and unapproachable than ever as an experimental film, and while the idea is interesting in terms of art, the film itself is reduced to a talking point; a new champion of diversity rather than judging the film as Dan did, on its own merit.
It is not nearly as experimental as this video tries to make it, it's a slice of life movie that might be difficult for the tiktok brains, but anyone with a normal attention span will get lost in it. We are talking about Jean Dilman, not ORG or Unheimlich or other similar movies here for which I would understand arguments of them being unapproachable by a general audience.
I’d like for the 2032 list to included ranked voting. Rather than picking a random list of 10 and just hobble together which films got on the list the most.
I’m one of the 3! ❤
The punishment should fit the crime… All critics who displaced Vertigo and Citizen Kane should be forced to sit through Jeanne Dielman- no bathroom breaks, and no napping.
Twice, to make sure they didn't miss anything.
They wouldn’t mind because they’re critics who enjoy great works of art. I’ve seen it before and it’s a masterpiece. You’re actually making me wanna watch it again :)