Make your own dubbing how YOU want it! - McFly Angler
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- First off I want to say that this was not my idea, but I got it from another youtuber called Piscator Flies. He had a video called "DIY Laser Dubbing" and I had to share the technique with you guys. Check out that video here... • DIY Lazer Dubbing How ...
Also, if you want to see this dubbing in action, here is a video of me tying a fly with the dubbing. • Point Up Laser Bunny -...
This stuff really is awesome dubbing. I tried it with a few brands of yarn, and I found that "lion brand - landscapes" yarn seemed to be the best. You can get it at walmart (at least my local one) If you cannot find it there, or want to order online, Amazon sells it for pretty cheep. Actually its better price than at the lion brand website. Here is the link. amzn.to/2qDcKyQ
Also, some of you were asking where I get my small baggies. I got 500 of them for $6 or so.. Here is the link to where I got them. amzn.to/2s0DQUM
So basically you just cut the yarn to your preferred fiber length, then brush it out till it turns to dubbing. Add some flash if you want with ice dub, or starburst dubbing, or even Angelina fiber. - Sport
So glad I found this! What a great idea! Thanks for sharing. I went to the dollar store and picked up two brushes for a dollar each and a roll of rainbow yarn for 5 bucks. Best 7 dollars I ever spent on fly tying materials.
+MileHigh Angler thanks! It wasn’t my idea though. This is the same reaction I had when I saw someone do this the first time. Depending on the yarn you use, the quality of the dubbing could be as good or better than the store bought stuff... experiment with different yarns.
great video, again, thanks so much. I have been making my own dubbing as well and use my blender. It works really well.
Yeah man! Making your own materials to tie flies is almost as rewarding as catching a fish on a fly you tied huh?
Thanks for the video. I wasn’t able to get the longer fibers using the coffee grinder. This makes it much clearer now to get the longer dubbing.
Glad I could help!
I have seen this on you tube. the one I saw used a old coffee grinder. so I went to Good Will store and picked up a used one for $3. works like a charm. However, I like the dog brush approach. That looks like it would be a good way to mix it up. Thanks for the vids keep up the good work.
+T Stewy yeah I'm not the originator of the idea (I said that on the video I think). Lots of great channels and smart people out there.
So the coffee grinder is great for shorter fiber dubbing... I find that the grinder can either cut the fibers or get spun up and break of the grinder with longer fiber dubbing. I've had that issue before...
I used to card wool for my mom to spin, with those. Great idea!
Nice! Yeah, basically the same thing huh?
Yep! As we did more she bought a drum carder but the paddles work well for smaller batches of dubbing. The drum was for a whole sheep LOL
great idea. and I would have never thought to buy a multi yarn instead of individual colors. I would advise watching the beard with those brushes 😀
+torrey self haha yeah, maybe some beard dubbing!? Haha
Yes at 6:50 it almost blended , so don't get them mixed up.
Great video man really nice how to!
+FreshSalt Fishing thank you! :)
+McFly Angler Thanks for the shout out in the video, much appreciated. You're right on the acrylic on the Laser Dub. I've been using both wool and acrylic in my blends. A note on the Anglina fiber, you can use Ice Dubbing or Ice Wing Fiber for longer strands. Cheers.
Hey man, loved your video.
Yeah, thats awesome! I wasnt coming down on the wool thing, in fact I am looking for some good wool yarn to use. I want to make some wool, and alpaca dubbing.
yeah, Ice dub is pretty much the same as what I used. I used a product by "fly tiers dungeon" called starburst dubbing. Its identical to ice dub, but a bit cheaper. Just you have to wait a while for it to be delivered cause its not sold to any fly shops. Just can buy online only. Its what I had, so I used it. But yes, Ice dub and Ice wing fiber would also work, your right. In fact they probably have some more range of colors.
Where did you buy the Angelina fiber? I have seen it online a few times, but I can only find like huge bags (more than I will use in a lifetime) and its like $9.99. Of course thats a great deal for all that, just I cannot use it all. Is that about what you found it for?
Thanks for your vid man. I hope you don't mind me making one like it for my subs. I always say, there is nothing new under the sun. Ive had people find my original idea's for flies, then tie them on their channel. It happens, and thats ok with me. I just felt if I would use your info, that I would make sure and tell people where to find your channel for it. If you live close to me, we should do a video together. help build each of our channels more. Your subs might come to me, and mine to you. If your interested, PM me. We can have a blast tying together. Or even doing a fishing trip.
Cool, sent you a PM.
Awesome!
I have trouble finding dub in the color I want. I found acrylic yarn on eBay in the exact color I wanted, now I will make some homemade dubbing. Thanks!
Wonderful! Glad this helped
great idea!
good video again ;-)
Thank you
That's awesome! And a money saver
Thanks! :)
McFly Angler welcome!
When I searched for "dub" i meant voice acting. Damn, how did i get there
Well no matter how you did, welcome! Haha! Good luck finding what your looking for
I just saw one befor i clicked this vid
The carding brush sets I found that looks like they will do the job costs around 30 bucks. There's others cheaper, but they don't get good reviews when they were bought for this sort of task. I'm thinking a set of brass wire brushes from the auto parts store might work, but those are about 9 bucks each..
Or a cheap couple of pet brushes like I showed
This is a great video! For a while now I've been using something called Wool Roving, I used to get it from Hobby Lobby, but now I can't find it. However it's not as soft as what u have in the video. My rolls came packed with about 5 feet, and longer strands, so I use that usually for like flies! Thanks man!
Yeah I have seen the roving wool as well. They still sell it on Amazon. I was thinking of getting some for a different type of dubbing. So does it still move well in the water? Or is it super stiff?
McFly Angler it's not bad and I love how it comes sort of in strands already so they are somewhat aligned. The wool roving isn't much thicker but it's just a tad bit more Curley not much though. Try it out, it just may not feel as fluffy or soft but isn't bad
I've also used it a lot on dries and I love how it really soaks up the floatant well
Yeah, wool is good for that. I will try it out. Just a different type of dubbing ya know?
thanks for the tip mcfly
No problem, hope it helps.
This is weird---I'm on vacation in W. Va. right now and I've "fly fished" in the Potomac, going today to "support a local fly shop", have "pet issues" here with the relatives I'm staying with, and I really need to "clean my fly line". Of course now all I have left to do is raid the kids' craft cabinet when I get home. Can't wait for your next video so I'll know how to tie your "yarn dubbing" fly!
lol
tomorrow at 10:am
Great video, thanks for sharing. Question: would a coffee grinder mix the wool with angel hair? I know it’s used for mixing hare’s mask and deer hair, or do you ‘need’ those dog brushes to mix this wool?
You could try it, I think the coffee grinder would not work with longer fiber dubbing like this. Would get caught up and stuff. At least I feel it would. I haven’t actually tried it.
Great idea, thanks for sharing! I was wondering about using this as fur for tying some minnows, what do you think?
Yep could work
Don't forget Kanekalon Jumbo Braid hair. Years of pike streamer body for $3 and it comes in 48" length! So many colours too. Similar to SF Gamechanger blend (stiffer) Macrame yarn is close to reg SF blnd
thanks for the recommendation! :)
Try Loops and Threads Chunky yarn. You don't have to use dog combs because the fibers are not twisted. It comes in multiple colors on each skein also. 100% acrylic.
I’ll take a look
Hi Shawn, nice video, looking forward to the tying of that fly. I think the originater of this technique are the people that make yarn out of natural fibers. For fun just Google wool carding and see the tools and methods for this. One CZcams video (HervorandWeyland is the channel ), under 4 minutes long, shows how it's done. It becomes apparent how preparing dubbing and making "noodles" and "loops" is much like what fly tyers do but on a smaller scale. Also I think Hareline makes kit for this. Your right, there's a ton of videos and print on this subject and I subscribe to Piscator too. Btw, that GSS is actually polyester, according to Jack Gartside himself. There's many videos featuring his flys but do a CZcams search for Jack Gartside's Secret Sand Eel by the Herald News. It's a short on him tying at a fly fishing show in '09. I think he was 67 at the time, before he passed away. He reveals the "secret" of his "stuff" as well as an interesting shaping technique. Like you said, nothing new under the ⛅ sun, sometimes we're just blinded by the glare ;-) Good stuff Shawn 👍😎 Thanks.
PS, how you doing?
Joe, I know my videos aren't as good as others, actually that's what I said in this video. Haha
I'm doing fine joe how r u doing? I just went to the doc for some stress tests, and hopefully they come back good. Been having some chest tightness and dizziness. So hopefully it's not bad. Will find out in a week. But I'm doing great now, much better then when my dog passed last week.
McFly Angler Hi Shawn, I just wanted to share what I found about this technique. In no way was I comparing videos. Your stuff is top notch, I wouldn't have sub'd if I thought otherwise. You're a good man, I was concerned because of what you've been going through. I've had similar symptoms for awhile, Dr gave me EKG. Now he wants me to go to a cardiologist for another. Hopefully both of our results will be ok. Take care my friend. 👍
+Joe Duca I wasn't offended or thinking you were comparing...
Yeah it's been tough, but it could be a lot worse. Not sure why the dogs death hit me as hard as it did, but apparently it did. Turns out the chest pain, shortness of breath, and dizziness was just stress and anxiety. At least that's what the doc said because the stress test and blood work came back fine.
McFly Angler Cool. Glad to hear good diagnosis. I know euthanasia of a pet is painful, been through it several times with our dogs, youngest was 12, oldest 17. Both my parents passed in '09 and '16. My dad's only sister in '11. I more or less was their caretaker before they went to nursing homes. But you had a son and another on the way, that compounds it. Now I'll sweat out my consult with a cardiologist. Glad to hear all is well...
The winter coat of my golden retriever makes great dubb. I pull it from the brush.
Yeah man absolutely
I love the way that this is done I also found one that is similar using just one brush and using a board as a plane to brush against and make the dubbing but what I am having trouble finding is either the fiber dubbing that you used to make the laser dubbing with or the other stuff that the gentle man claimed to have used that he said he used but only comes in large quantities and is expensive. Can you let me know where to get it please along with the price of it? I love the idea of making my own dubbing and being able to make it to what I need in the color and how light or dark I want and or need. Thank you very much
I got some yarn at Walmart. I don’t remember the price. Sorry. All yarn though is of large quantity unfortunately
I od the same ting with craft fur. I take my dog brush run it thru the craft fur, wall-a dubbing. To mix my regular dubbing up I use a coffee grinder, my own not the one in the kitchen..
LOL yeah you wife would be upset if it was the kitchen one. HAHA Yeah, craft fur dubbing works well. I always just save the underfur when I clip off clumps. Never thought of bringing a brush through it though... Good thinking.
great
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What is the sparkle material you use for this? Thanks, cool video!
Oh man, it’s been a while since this video. My guess is starburst dubbing. Glad you like the video
Happy Easter! He has risen!
how long can you make the fibers???
Not sure, I guess it would depend on the yarn you use.
you could also get a cheap coffee grinder and cut yarn into 1 inch strips .and place in grinder for 20-30 seconds and walla you have dubbing .try grinding some squirel fur n yarn and it makes some buggy dubbing too. tight lines!
Yes, you could do that thank you John. The reason why I didn't do that, is I find with the longer fibers, that they get wrapped up in the grinder. I do that technique for my shorter fiber dubbing mixes though for sure! Just these 2-3" strands are tough with coffee grinder.
ok. I never thought about doing that techniqe for longer strands. you mix with pet brush and then card the fibers to align the yarn fibers. i will add that to my bag of tricks for long fibered dubbing.Thanks for the videos. keep making them. tight lines!
+John Watson thanks John! Yeah it works well, again it's not my idea, I got it from another CZcamsr.
Will this yarn dubbing make good egg flys?
Depends on what yarn you use, but to be honest the cost of egg yarn is very low. I’d just get the egg yarn. One package will make 100+ flies. Lol
Hey man, thanks for the great video!
Quick question from a "new guy" in to all this!
So, I can buy legit packs of acrylic yarn (Saw a 12 pack of multiple colored yarn for like 10 bucks), cut it, put it in a coffee grinder and make my own!? I'm new to this and trying to learn and "practice" tying but don't really want to waste good money...would like to learn this "on the cheap" I'll buy the named brand stuff down the road as I improve or as I need it!
Thanks and be well
I would imagine the cheap acrylic yarn could make some decent dubbing. Keep in mind, different yarn has different properties so, you will totally get some decent dubbing, to have a wide variety of different dubbings you might want to try some other yarn types. However if you're just starting out, that yarn will make so much dubbing you won't be able to use it up for years. But buying the pre made bags of dubbing from fly tying shops (online or brick and mortar) might be cheaper, yeah you dont get as much, but it is less expensive than a whole hank of yarn. At least I would think. And most of the time it will give you enough dubbing to make many dozens of flies.
@@McFlyAngler I appreciate the information! I'm getting my practice in.
Not sure why my attempt at an egg resulted in a goofy looking critter with a mowhawk!! LOL I pulled straight up and cut straight across and everything!
Could it be not *enough* mc fly foam on the hook?!
It is possible with that egg, there are many ways it could go wrong, I’d try a couple more times with more or less foam. But I haven’t ever had a Mohawk fly come from it so I can’t say what the reason is. I mean it could be a number of different things.
great idea bud thank u. should have shown use a bit of a close up..would like to see what it looks like a bit more...thanks for ur time though
+michael walker yeah I agree but you will see it close up on my next flight time video this Friday so check that out
i will for sure thanks again. im gonna go to michaels n get some yarn...
Nice! Let me know how it goes. Keep in mind, different yarns (even if it says acrylic) will come out different. Fibers might be thicker, or thinner. The weeve might end up making knots and tiffs in the dubbing, and be annoying. I find the thicker yarns, and more softer yarns do better (for me). But give it a try and try a few different ones.
I will thanks..at the moment I'm standing in line buyin some dog food n than I'm racing to the river.. can get out of here fast enough
+michael walker yeah I hear ya!
Those look like some pretty big dog brushes. Where might I be able to buy a set?
I got mine at Walmart I think.
Thanks, I'll go have a l look at Walmart tonight. BTW your videos are great & really enjoy your practical interpretation of the topics you cover - rock on dude!
Thanks man! Yeah Its been a while since I purchased them since this video is over a year old. But..... I think thats where I got mine. If not, Amazon probably has a few options. Not sure the quality of this one, but its inexpensive from Amazon... amzn.to/2xKFWIS
Hey man if yo ever make to utah look me up..
Will do
Try your beard for wild brown trout. They would love it just like you.
I have tied a fly with my beard...
McFly Angler
Same here and from my dog, my ginger beard has got gray in it now but still catchers wild brown trout. Its the best color for brownys.
What kind of yarn is it. Is it acrylic?
Oh I thought I said on there. So the one I used in the video is Lion Brand "landscapes". Here is what they say about the yarn... "Landscapes® is a premium acrylic, single plied roving yarn that has a satiny feel"
Yes, its acrylic... Sorry I forgot to say it again. HAHA
Ok thanks
nice been making mine for about 1 week now and id suggest going with the fiber wen brushing makes less clumps and helps keep the stands longer and got some trays that i made holes to pluck colores out got pics on instagram #mbbtattoo looking forward to seeing what you'll be making with this new dubbing
Nice! yeah I want to get some of those dubbing boxes, that might work too. For some reason I cannot find your pics. Would love to see them. I saw your instagram, but can't find them.
Yeah I noticed that as well, thats why I said the specific yarn seems to do better for me. It made less (almost none) clumps. And I found the fiber to be finer, which was the effect I was going after (softer dubbing).
Missouriflies has a good dubbing video also dude ...
Cool! Yeah, there are a lot of great video's out there huh?
yepper ! thanks for sharing !
NO problem! thanks again, have a great day!
Hi im a 10 year old kid i make flys and im stared to make dubbing but can you please make a vid on how to make a batch of dubbing using 1 pet brush and some yarn please it would help my hobby
I don’t think you can make it with only one pet brush. Need both. Like I made it here
@@McFlyAngler oh ok my fathers friend has been tying for 72 years and he helps with materials and gave me yarn and 1 pet brush but i will save money to get a pair btw thanks for telling me your vids help improve my hobby
Maybe there is a way. I only know of how I did it