AIRLINE IS STEALING MY MONEY - AVOID OMAN AIR!
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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2022
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This is a comprehensive Flight Review of Oman Air.
Class: Business & Economy
Route: Chennai (MAA) to Dubai (DXB) via Muscat (MCT)
Plane: Boeing 737Max8
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Regarding your refund, I wouldn't waste a second more arguing with that airline. You simply go to civil court and file a lawsuit. It's really quite simple, you fill out a form and pay the necessary fee and then you wait for the court date. Most times the company won't even show up to court, which means you win by default (default judgment). Be sure to claim interest, currently between 3% to 4% annually, for the 2 years they've refused to pay you your refund. You then get a title from the court certifying that you won your lawsuit, and with this title, you can now legally enforce the judgment against the company. I've noticed that Oman Air has several offices in Germany, since you're German you can file your lawsuit online. Once you get your title ("Exekutionstitel"), you then send the bailiff ("Gerichtsvollzieher") to one of their offices to collect your money. If they still refuse to pay, no problem, you simply have the bailiff IMPOUND one of their aircraft until they do. Easy peasy. This actually happened in Vienna a few years ago.
I myself sued a large corporation many years ago that refused to pay my refund after I returned a defective dishwasher. Instead of arguing I simply went to civil court and filed a lawsuit. I was surprised how easy it was, and the court employees even helped me fill out the form. The court date was one month later and the company didn't even bother showing up to defend their reprehensible behavior, so I won by default. The trial took all of 3 minutes, mostly me confirming my name and date of birth. A week later I received a check in the mail for my refund plus court fees. Needless to say, everyone lived happily ever after - especially ME! 😁
Hah yes Josh impound their aircraft!!!
A vlog of Josh impounding an Oman Air 787 would totally break CZcams! Google servers be frying all over the globe...
@@prudencepineapple9448 If they have a subsidiary in Germany (called a "Niederlassung" in German), which is usually a limited liability company ("GmbH" in German), then the German subsidiary CAN be sued in a German civil court under German law.
bruh just dispute it with your credit card.
@@pengo369 This seems to be the company culture these days. Keep it and hope no one can be bothered to claim it back. Q: can you claim money for your time in the law suit?
They should have to pay interest on delayed refunds.
Depends on the jurisdiction. In Germany, the company would have to pay about 4.1% interest. I just successfuly sued Ryanair and the German Railways, so I can say: It works 🫣
The problem with this is that until recently, inteŕest rates were negative.
@@martinaltmann4031 No. The "Verzugszinsen" were never negative
@@martinaltmann4031 you do know interest is not the same as in default interest? Maybe know what you’re talking about before start commenting
@@chelsea_Xxo you don’t have to be so rude… maybe he didn’t know but so what..
You have a lot more patience than I. I think I would have given them a window of time for a refund before requesting a credit card charge back or have used any travel insurance purchased for the trip to get my money. There are zero excuses for the airline to withhold a refund for longer than 45 days unless they are having serious cash flow issues.
cry more
I totally agree with josh on this. Imagine a poor family saving up their money to have a nice vacation and then their flight is cancelled. 😡Imagine they are trying to contact them and never get back their money so sad!!
that's against the law, they can sue.
Thanks for watching! If you want to know if I ever get my money back, feel free to follow me on instagram.com/gotravelyourway so you won't miss out on any updates. Are you still waiting for refunds? Let me know in the comment section.
you are super rich doesn't mean you can tell anything wrong on my city airport.
@@Sathish_90 in English please? No one understood a word of your word salad. 😂
@@Sathish_90 He is right. Chennai airport sucks. The poverty is in your hyper-nationalist mind.
@@aleksandraeynon1802 the message is for Josh not for you. And more over you are not invited in this conversation.
@@Sathish_90 he's calling shit a shit that has nothing to do with him being rich or not.. his eyes are the same as ours
I think it's deeply immoral and reprehensible that so many companies outsource customer service to other countries AND then hide behind those cheap call centre staff to take customer anger and claim they are company representatives when they're just working for a subcontractor WHILE the responsible decision maker or any of their direct line staff will never answer to one single customer by design of the system. It leaves individuals, families, or staff of customer businesses absolutely fuming - this when dealing with a large range of aloof international corporations these days.
Flight reviewers definitely are a positive in general for the aviation industry.
At least the ones that don't just fly business or first and don't show the bad parts of the experience
Thanks Josh. A professional to the end - you didn't let the lack of refund cloud your judgment on the flight. That's why we can always trust your reviews to be honest.
I feel that I’ve just been a bit too lucky with Oman Air. I’ve flown with them for 19 years now, and the only issue I’ve had with them were their ground staff.
Hi im planning to fly with oman air this 24 nov can you share wif me for lay over for 19 hrs is there any visa charged or if any how much is that? As i wanted to go out and stay one of the hotel.
@@69cliniq its fucked up sis trust me
@@69cliniq use another airline like Emirates one
Thank you for being so tenacious and standing up for your rights! Because it helps everyone around you as well!! Go Josh!! 👍
Good to know. Thanks Josh. Will avoid them. But within 3 to 6 month if paid with credit card you can open a chargeback case with your bank and normally within a couple of days you get your money back.
This what I learned when my holidays was cancelled. I spent hours on line to get more money back. My friend used credit card. Company what provide holidays know about chargeback and give him money in few days not like me.
Always pay for your flights with a credit card so you can simply issue a chargeback if the airlines fool around.
Can't the same be done with a debit card?
Josh, please include date of travel info, this allows us to determine how relevant the review is at the time of viewing.
I fully agree. Good suggestion.
Ohhh I can't believe it, all of my favorite airlines are being called out! First Qatar by Simply Aviation, and now Oman Air!
I'd imagine when Josh checks in for a flight a loud alarm sounds, and every flight attendant gets a briefing!!
That's what I was thinking too. The Oman crew were probably told to be on their best behaviour.
There is change in management now and things are much better, very sorry for the troubles, as an omani I am very upset about this. But I have seen other reviews and they rate Oman air very high.
Great video! Another airline that does not refund your fees is tap air Portugal!
Tão verdade.
Lufthansa???
Latam says hi
and EasyJet. I've been waiting 5 months and they gave me 3 false reference numbers saying they transferred money to me. my bank says the transfer doesn't exist.
TAP Portugal: That I cannot confirm when my flight was canceled to Toronto from India due to Covid-19 I got a refund voucher plus 500€USD …. And about the crew try Lufthansa to India …..I waited 2.5years for refund and after that they returned only a fraction
At least you had friendly, helpful staff at the airport before the flight!
I flew Muscat LHR recently on Oman and the service was pathetically slow. Food trays were lying on table for so long maybe an hour, that a good chunk of pax decided to dispose it themselves and get on with it.
At the same time, on all 4 of my flights on Oman, air conditioning was switched off when the flight was on ground! So suffocating!
Muscat Airport is great but Oman Air, not so much.
Edit - meal was great though
I can’t wait for your El Al review!!! I love flying them but the airline is definitely an acquired taste!!
Airlines that with hold refunds is basically theft. No excuse. Stay safe Josh x
So many of them behaved like that during the pandemic...
You inspire me to travel. I have been retired for 2 years and I think I will "put my nose in the wind and go". Thank you and maybe we will pass each other in some airport one day.
Excellent video Josh! I just joined your channel recently but binged watched your last 3 years over the past few months haha. Definitely appreciate you taking us along on your adventures!
It is great that you and fellow flight reviewers really make a difference for all of us. For that we thank you, but it shouldn’t take you guys for airlines to improve.
Hi Josh, Hope you get your money back soon. Very unfortunate that Oman Air has done this to the passengers. I had booked Emirates from SIN to JFK during the covid season nefore it broke out. They did reimburse the amount as soon as all flights were cancelled,. I didn't have to even make a request. They initiated and paid back without any delay. Waiting for your flight details to Israel. Take care.
I fly first and business all the time and I have never seen a colder onboard reception for premium pax - when the stewardess just saw your boarding pass and pointed left 😂 if they can’t take you to your seat, the least they can do is smile !!!
I flew on London to Muscat in economy and they were ok.The Muscat area also has a very good public bus service which saves wasting money on taxis.
Definitely agree with you ! We flew with them for years & really enjoyed the flights but when Covid hit, we couldn't get our Business Class tickets refunded - $12000+....!
NEVER AGAIN !
Since you are flying Oman again couldn’t you apply the credit from the ticket (waiting on your refund) towards the purchase of your current one?
And i was excited for it to join the Oneworld Alliance, hopefully it will get better
Great video, really enjoyed it. Glad to hear you made a difference. It must feel good.
I just flew Oman Air on a flight from Milan to Muscat and then back to Milan. Business class was very good, the food was delicious and the seats were super comfortable. The only thing that was a bit under the level of business class was the crew that was very serious and not friendly at all…but for the rest everything was really good
I have a pre COVID credit with Qantas' LCC Jetstar. Apparently I have until the end of 2023 to use it or it will be cancelled. No question of a refund apparently. I'm doubtful about flying anywhere with Jetstar now because post COVID they have repeatedly stranded passengers in Bali, Honolulu and other places. I could end up spending more than the credit is worth to get a ticket to return home on another airline.
Yup Qantas/Deathstar make Omanair look like paragons of virtue.
Hi Rais. Can you use the credit to book a Qantas flight? With all the bad reporting on Qantas we had flights booked Perth to Singapore in BC. I tracked the flight everyday prior to departure, as we had 4 hours to catch a Emirates flight we had booked separately. Every flight left within 30 mins of scheduled departure. Food and crew were awesome. And our luggage arrived. Was pleasantly surprised. Qantas came out on top of the four airlines we flew in BC on the trip. I was surprised.
@@carolinelane9599 Thanks for the thought Caroline but I don't think Qantas would honour a Jetstar credit except in emergency conditions. It wouldn't cost anything to ask though.
Great video and review. Right here where I live. AirAsia is a nightmare when it comes to refund and handling of delays and cancellations. Just wondering how they're still selected year in year out by SkyTrack as the world best low cost airline.
Flown Oman Business Class from Malaysia to Europe Return half a dozen times just before Covid, with not a problem
Great video, Josh. Gotta ask, what lav mic do you use? I need a good one to use for future flights.
Oman Air and Josh, someone should really make it into a sitcom sometimes
As a guy who lives in Oman itself, Oman Air does indeeed have issues, it's insanely congested, the food is.......well, let's not get into that, and mostly the lack of transparency. It's quite the shame that an airport like Muscat Intl has to house Oman Air.
Mashallah, I was a Freq Flyer with Oman Air for a short time and it was so bad I left and became a high-level Freq Flyer with Etihad instead. Was so, so much better. A bonus was my parents moved from Al Ain to Abu Dhabi, so Etihad was better for me from Australia to Abu Dhabi. The product on Etihad in J and F cabin is so much nicer than Emirates ( which is mediocre and dated, like at the time it was really 6 abrest in J on the A380 and B777, wtf! thankfully it's now a standard 4 abreast, emirates was a forerunner in the 90s, but took a dive in the late 2000's )
In any case, I give SQ my money now as they are by far one of the best and most consistent carriers I've travelled on in the last decade.
Fantastic staff, great lounges at T3 in Singapore, especially 'The Private Room' and ive always felt taken care of, and that it was worth the money.
Also if you're not a Muslim, you can guarantee that you get a bad treatment
As a customer service agent its awful to tell tales to get a paycheck. I now work for a great company.
Good on you for outing them. We need to be told whom to trust, and not to trust.
Have found each and all my flights with Omar Air on larger planes, great service, beautiful meals and great choices of wines. I’ve never flown on these small plane as you are flying on. I’ve always had 4 windows to my seat and a 2 meter long bed. Fabulous experience.
Yes during my last vacation I flew Oman Air from Dammam to Muscat Oman 🇴🇲 and from there to Sri Lanka 🇱🇰 . The Aircraft is sooooo small and even the passage way is too small and you can't walk with our hand luggage. I'm not complaining about their refunds but the Aircrafts are too small.
They are keeping B 737 in short distance but if you fly more than 5 hrs they operate big flights, they have big flights like 787 Dreamliner, Airbus 332 nd 330
@@asiyamuscat-oman2283 or maybe hes too fat to fit in the passage way coz what i have noticed its one of the most developed airbridges in the world
'Oman Air' more like an OMEN! If I ever need to fly anywhere I would look on Josh's list first to see if he's flown with them!! Happy Flying everyone!!! 💖
Thanks, was looking to book a business class trip Europe to Asia for my parents and they came up as good price working with SAS. Next step was to look for warnings signals from guys like you and I guess this classify as a heavy warning signal and I will look for a different airline. So thanks for the video!
21:50 "I hope you understood what I said" - good confirmation by the guy in the reception😀
Oh man, Cahill, I felt lucky myself after hearing about 2 year delay in getting your refund compared to mine 1 year for the refund process.
I kept calling and sending email and even using their social media page. Finally, after 1 year, I saw the amount credited in my account.
If WY or any crew needs to find if Josh is on their flight they should scan only on last 2 rows of any class cabin. 😊😊
The Business Class looks good, im shocked about the refund process on Oman Air...
Another amazing upload, thanks Josh.
Great video as always Josh, if I was you I’d get a charge back from your bank. I had to do this with a certain low cost Irish airline. Just tell the bank you have spent 2 years with multiple attempts to get a refund and they will simply take the money back from them
Should've gone to your card issuer (bank, american express, etc.) are raised a charged back
Thanks for the awesome content!!
Great video josh! So humble sharing you and your partners review impact. Keep posting.😊
Love your videos they are so honest I hope Oman air can make a comeback soon
Honestly I like Oman Air I loved my experience travelling to Oman from Dubai but I think they could do better
Extremely balanced assessment of Oman Air given they owe you money..kudos!
I have subscribed to your YT channel just few days ago since watching your flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv via El Al Airline. I find it very interesting. So far, I have watched 4 or 5 of your videos. I like your style and the calmness of how you handle the situation of the robbery of Oman Airlines. Thank you so much!
Hi Josh. As others have mentioned if you used a credit card to purchase the flights you should be able to arrange a charge back via your card. Good review as always
There is a time frame for that. 2 years is well out of the time frame. They know this and delay so you lose that option.
@jasonb9652 Not if you lodge a claim as soon as the first attempt to get the refund fails. Some time ago, I had to deal with a dodgy retailer who kept sending emails promising immediate refund. I lodged a claim with my cc around two weeks after the first email and they told me to wait, but in the end they arranged charge back about 2 months later.
Josh do you use a beaten up bag to try discourage theft? Also for JNB to FRA do your recommend Qatar, Lufthansa or Emirates (business or first)?
The bag is actually pretty good, but it doesn’t get handled very nicely. I recommend Qatar for sure or LH on First since they use the 747-8 on that route.
@@JoshCahill Thanks and it looks sturdy as heck just a bit paint chipped!
Another great video!
This is the very surprising to me, I've had nothing but the best experience with OmanAir. Their business class (sleeper cabins) is superb, as is the food and overall experience. Sad that you had such a poor experience.
YEAHHHHH it's all great and amazing...
...until you need to contact the Indian at their customer service hotline
@Demon_ A lot tbh.
@@marioluigi9599
When it's going well "We Arabs are good"
When it's going bad "Indians are running it for us"
Only if Arab dafts were competent enough.
Kudos to you Josh 👍☺️👍 for your reviews on Oman and other Airlines that you do, so glad that these Airlines watch your review videos and learn how important it is to treat passengers whether it's economy to first class. I watch you, Trek Trendy, Non stop Dan, Noel and other's to name a few to get ideas for flight's and such. Just want to thank you and wish you a happy and many safe travels ☺️
Great video, always support you.
Very true, during covid never got a refund and the voucher given was valid for 2 years which couldn't be used as the flight didn't start
Absolutely correct. I had a bad experience with Oman Air in 2019. They listed 737 Max as the carrier ( six months into the ban) and then randomly cancelled the flight two days before the journey. Not only that they randomly rescheduled me to another day without even asking. The ground crew at Paris airport was extremely rude and borderline racists.
Josh that was a very informative review . The customer service and refunding issue debacle was certainly an eye opener. An airline to avoid I feel . Keep up your great work !👍
Wait. If you tell them that the call is being recorded for "Training Purposes", doesnt that mean the operator will think the call as a Mock/Training call? Wouldnt Telling them that the call is being recorded for "Legal Purposes" give faster feedback?
love how u mention " welcome to the worst airport in india " consistently everytime u board frm MAA😂😂
Hi Josh! Thanks a lot for this video! I've landed yesterday from my roundtrip ZRH-MCT-BKK in economy class on which the service was a total disaster (the crew took 3 hours to serve meals and passengers got really angry) and they also had decided to stop the 2nd service in the middle of the cabin, so I don't really see a change from your last Omanair review. Nevertheless I have to say that the flight attendants were really friendly. But next time ill probably choose EK, QR or EY
The exact thing happened to me on my Oman Air flight from Muscat to Bangkok. The crew was insanely slow and the food was cold by the time it arrived. Appalling service!
There is no change they just give LIP SERVICE.thats it, I had the sad use of them back in October 2022 two tickets £3500
Thanks Josh for your comprehensive review. I have flown with Oman Air four times in Business class and I have found them to be excellent. The food was some of the best I have had in the sky and the service was outstanding. I would fly with them again. It sometimes the crew on the day that makes a difference, I recently flew Japan Airlines business and found their service to be excellent but I found the food disappointing, I also found the hard product lacking, no cameras, bad navigation map and entertainment . I expected better.
The aircraft was a 787-8 so there is no excuse.
I can tell when you're super happy: those dimples become very prominent! Great video, as always! Happy travels
You are such a breath of fresh air compared to certain other aviation vloggers.
I would never fly this airline..thanks for your honest review..
I personally think oman air is one of the best airlines you can fly. Lovely crews and very welcomed always
At last some truths🙏
Travelled with this airline for years, no issue at all. One of the best in my view.
Great flight and a fantastic video as always.
I hope you get your money back.
Keep it up.
Thanks for this video Josh - was really considering flying Omar Air to go to India in December but opted not to and this makes me think it was the right choice! Keep up the great work
Josh Is the only Creator who can make me stop what im doing to watch his video 😂
It's absolutely baffling as well as bizarre for a national carrier like oman air being such careless and not able to issue a simple refund for 2 years..I mean that's understandably frustrating...
Im really glad that your videos make an impact for better with airlines. I think airlines forget that when a person or family books a flight and pays a lot of money, they want to enjoy the ambiance of the plane, and experience a good time on the aircraft with helpful and friendly staff, thats what makes people repeat customers, however their next change urgently needs to be the refund situation, the more people they stretch out any refund to them, they need to realise that they will have lost those paying customers in the future. And with losing those customers will mount up to a lot of revenue lost. So they need to sort out refunds urgently as it spoils the relationship between the airline and the customer
I'm really surprised to read about this and also your second negative review of WY because they're my go-to airline whenever I travel from KHI-LHR as they have the best J class fares and I also like the fact that MCT airport is not like DXB or IST where you have to walk miles and miles from gate to gate, its fairly quick and easy to make your connecting flight. However in all the years I have flown with WY I only had one bad experience when my flight from KHI-MCT was slightly delayed and while I made it in time to the gate to board the LHR flight, they didn't allow me to board as they said my bags would not be able to be transferred to the LHR flight on time so they would put me on BA departing early morning (it was 1:45am at this point) and I should go and sit in the J class lounge (I was in J class) till the departure time of my BA flight and after a while they brought my BA boarding pass from MCT-LHR and assured me I was in J class but by the time I boarded the old BA 772 I discovered I was in World Traveler Plus (Premium Y) so I mentioned this to the BA crew and they told me that this has happened before with WY and they were unable to put me in J and I would have to sort it out with WY later. After several emails with the WY customer service where I expected some form of compensation for the downgrade they gave me, the maximum they offered me was 45 Euros which I declined. Subsequent discussions with them regarding a review of the amount of compensation offered (I even suggested air miles as I was a Sindbad Silver member too) was met by dead silence and no replies or further communication from their end which ended up being a huge disappointment for me as I never expected them to deal with a J class customer and Silver FF member in such a lackluster and indifferent manner.
In my opinion, this is the best aviation reviewing channel in the world. Keep it up! Also, I wanted to ask which airline is the best in your opinion.
Used Oman Air once on a two leg flight from Europe to southeast Asia and it was an eye-opening experience. In the sense that afterwards I knew I would never ever fly Oman Air again. First leg from Europe to Oman my seat had a bunch of weird brown smear stains everywhere, even on the IFE. The toilet clogged during the flight. The crew was slow and aloof. Ground Crew in Muscat is just plain rude. Second Leg to Asia my seats IFE didn't work at all. Toilet was clogged AGAIN halfway through the flight. Crew was still slow and had just no interest in their customers at all. Never Again.
Am amazed you're optimistic enough to check in your luggage.
Glad to hear that the airline has improved its inflight services after hearing about your reviews. Also, Josh kindly tells me about your experiences at India's worst airport ...Chennai.
Hows chennai supposed to be a worst airport, Its not even in the top 10 indian worst airports? And Chennai airport's rating is 4.2/5!
So happy to hear you are visiting 🇮🇱 🇮🇱. Happy to help you with whatever you need....
I apologize in advance for El al....
Can be worst than El Al, Arkia for example ..
@@gilron4101 we like to make fun of El al because they are stuck in a time when government airlines were still the thing. But really when you put then up against Iberia, ita, Austrian, etc they are fine.
Oman Air is joining OneWorld in 2024. They better improve their services before they join. Food loaded at MAA is generally good. But it depends on the airline.
I flew CMB to MEL on Sri Lankan Business last month and the service was excellent! You were right about them.
American Airlines is the head of One World they are not known for their good customer service or their in flight service. Oman will fit right in.
Good to know all these about Oman Air. I cancelled it on my google flight search ... and booked now on Saudia :D
Josh, I know how you feel regarding a delayed refund. I had to wait over 610 days for my business class refunds for my wife and myself from Garuda Airlines due to the pandemic of no flying. I hope you don't have to wait much longer for yours. Cheers
Oman air has potential, but their just making themselves look worse
Love your videos!
Keep us updated Josh! we're all curious as to what happens next.
The way he says ‘the worst airport’ and ‘the worst airline’ as casually as can be is just gold.
do you know why he calls chennai, as india's worst airport?
@@ashwinrajesh9739 many of my frenz travellied thru Chinai airport of India, n they found extremely rubbish airport ever...it has no intnatl standard at all..not one but many has told this...
Josh: Got scammed by Oman Air.
Also Josh: Books another flight with Oman Air, giving them more money.
Also, it appears that all the staff Josh interacted with in this video were quite abrupt.
That’s what he does for a living. I’m sure you are aware of that. Same case with Malaysian Air. He kept on flying with them despite those unacceptable treatments the flight crew gave him.
Instead of making fun of someone or trolling, let’s be broad minded. Just a reminder my frnd his wiki says “ AIRLINE CRITC / FLIGHT REVIEWER “. Giving second chance to an airline is not getting scam ! I believe it’s fair & wise decision to give them second chance ( in order to change ). Don’t you think it’s kind of his job ?
Glad you’ll be going on El Al! 👍
Airlines like that really worry me to fly on. It makes me wonder if they cut corners on matinence and safety costs. Disgruntled pilots etc.
I’d be more worried about the airworthiness maintenance of Oman Air’s aircraft than about whether my meal is palatable. As a long term aircraft maintenance technician, it has never ceased to amaze me how the general flying public everywhere is more worried about amenities than the airworthiness of the aircraft they are now vulnerable to.
I think I'm more worried about that than anything as well but what can a passenger do to show or test that it's worthy?
Very true
Thanks Josh for saying it loud "the worst airport in Chennai". Am a victim of having this airport as my home base for air travel. I hope and pray it will ring loud in the ears of AAI, DGCA and MoCA that they will do something about it.
He said West Airport, you deaf mofoko
Little surprised to here this as I never faced anything bad in my little experience flying in and out of Chennai. Can you share your experience ? Curious to know
I am so glad to see more and more
B737 MAX's flying back into the skies.
Strong work. Keep it up!!
Now, what is your problem with Chennai Airport😅😅
Wildlife inside the terminal building, including but not limited to cats, crows and pigeons.
I saw a squirrel the other day inside the airport too. 😅
@@JoshCahill Btw nice video sir😁
@@JoshCahill i have seen dogs, goats, cows and buffaloes in the passenger car parking area. Nothing surprises me anymore.
@@JoshCahill They must be promoting "Jungle in the airport?" or "Airport in the jungle?" 🤔