Hopkins & Allen XL-6 Revolver with a Surprising Swing-Out Cylinder

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    "XL" was a brand name used by Hopkins & Allen to cover several different styles of revolver, but the first were a series of rimfire, spur-hammer pocket guns made in the 1870s and 1880. These were mostly very simple, chambered for a range of cartridges from .22 rimfire to .41 rimfire. Some examples of the .41 caliber XL-6 have a quite interesting feature, however. When the cylinder axis pin is removed, the cylinder swings out about 45 degrees to the right, propelled by a captive spring. This makes the chambers easily accessible for reloading.
    This system was originally patented by Samuel Hopkins in 1862 and 1864 while working for the Bacon Firearms Company. Bacon made about 300 revolvers using this system, but they were shut down by a patent infringement lawsuit from Smith & Wesson, as their revolver used bored-through chambers without having a license from Rollin White or S&W. When the Bacon Firearms Company lapsed into bankruptcy its remains formed the start of Hopkins & Allen. Having acquired both the legal patent rights and the employment of the original inventor (both Samuel Hopkins and his brother Charles were partners in the new firm), it should be no surprise that Hopkins & Allen would use the system once the Rollin White patent expired. What is a bit surprising is that they did not use it more extensively…
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Komentáře • 393

  • @_A.K_
    @_A.K_ Před 3 lety +242

    That lil spin the cylinder did when it sprung out was extremely satisfying.

  • @sorenlilienthal1368
    @sorenlilienthal1368 Před 3 lety +302

    For me, that gun looks like something, a gambler might pull out of his vest pocket, to settle a dispute over a fifth ace in the deck. 😎

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Před 3 lety +71

      Highest hand in the card game.
      Mississippi Flush.
      Any five cards and a small revolver.

    • @klasandersson7522
      @klasandersson7522 Před 3 lety +5

      @Sören Lilienthal Hehe, my thought exactly!

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kenbrown2808 If he played 5 Aces he would not be playing a harp.
      More likely doing the Jumping Jack Flash.

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kenbrown2808 Whats rhyme?

    • @therealnoodledog6660
      @therealnoodledog6660 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shawnr771 what is the jumping jack flash

  • @steelcider-9508
    @steelcider-9508 Před 3 lety +347

    Weird. This pistol almost seems more at home in the 1920s than the late 1800s. The style, cylinder and look. Even the name “XL-6” seems more modern than the Rimfire era.

    • @gilmour6754
      @gilmour6754 Před 3 lety +48

      Yeah, if I had to guess when that was made without any info I definitely would have said between the world wars. What a cool little gun.

  • @baronofhell2277
    @baronofhell2277 Před 3 lety +116

    XL-6 sounds like a generic video game name for a magnum revolver

  • @speedandstyletony
    @speedandstyletony Před 3 lety +57

    "Three pixels worth of gun" is the name of my new techno-country band😁

  • @Dreska_
    @Dreska_ Před 3 lety +194

    Every time I'm reminded that the patent on a bored-through cylinder was a thing I have to come to terms with that fact all over again. They patented a hole.

    • @alicetries5954
      @alicetries5954 Před 3 lety +25

      its pretty fucked up that they were able to bribe someone into getting a patent on drilling a hole just to shut down other companies.

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon Před 3 lety +24

      It probably wouldn't happen nowadays, since the current patent code requires that an innovation be non-obvious to be patentable, but those were different times. (You could patent a new non-obvious process for _making_ the holes, but the holes themselves would probably not pass muster with a modern patent judge.)

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ZGryphon Depends on how many $ you have in that envelope to pass under the table.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 Před 3 lety +2

      @Astro Colter Best think again.

    • @dickinsteinblowitz7102
      @dickinsteinblowitz7102 Před 3 lety +1

      @Astro Colter imagine making this post not in jest

  • @sigmckone
    @sigmckone Před 3 lety +46

    A friend and I had a #1 when we were kids. Used it steady untill it basically disinigrated. We knew it was old, but thought 30s-40s.

  • @Pcm979
    @Pcm979 Před 3 lety +274

    If only Hopkins & Allen had understood the concept of the front company they could've dodged their bad reputation.

    • @WingMaster562
      @WingMaster562 Před 3 lety +18

      They were an honest company

    • @mr.bobcyndaquil4214
      @mr.bobcyndaquil4214 Před 3 lety +26

      You mean branding, presumably.

    • @9drtr
      @9drtr Před 3 lety +54

      @@mr.bobcyndaquil4214 Yes and no. I suspect he's thinking about setting up two firms, Hopkins and Allen to make the high-end guns and another company that exists largely on paper named something innocuous like "Industrial Products" to make the junk. That way the branding on the top company remains good, but they also get to sell lower-quality products.
      Think about a writer working under multiple names, one for science-fiction, one for thrillers, and one for romance.

    • @Vespuchian
      @Vespuchian Před 3 lety +10

      I just lament the missed opportunity to have a "Bacon Gun" on the market.

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 Před 3 lety +11

      @@9drtr Or GMC, Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, and... Geo. Wouldn't want people to think that the same company that made the Coupe de Ville also made the Metro...

  • @Androidonator
    @Androidonator Před 3 lety +71

    Never have I seen a company that bought leftovers of bacon.

  • @TouchConnors69
    @TouchConnors69 Před 3 lety +16

    “And I have a separate video on the XL No. 8 if you’re interested...”
    Of course you do, Ian; of course you do. And that’s good because I am interested and will be watching that one next.

  • @brandonobaza8610
    @brandonobaza8610 Před 3 lety +73

    "Leftovers of Bacon"
    Historical first?

  • @emberramune
    @emberramune Před 3 lety +93

    Found this in recommended before I found it in notifications

  • @KSPilo
    @KSPilo Před 3 lety +47

    Quote Ian: "...three pixels worth of gun."...made me laugh...it looked exactly like that.

    • @mrbyamile6973
      @mrbyamile6973 Před 3 lety +1

      And as I'm watching it on a mobile phone, not even full screen because I was reading comments. :)

  • @SardisTheYardDog
    @SardisTheYardDog Před 3 lety +34

    "THE LEFTOVERS OF BACON"

  • @slick_slicers
    @slick_slicers Před 3 lety +3

    The XL came from George Wostenholm in Sheffield, England. He made knives under the I-XL brand from about 1780. These were exported to the US, peaking in the mid 19th Century. A US entrepreneur set up the Un XLd brand which is now used by Great Eastern Cutlery today. All plays on the word ‘excel’.

  • @wileycoyote9504
    @wileycoyote9504 Před 3 lety +29

    Fun fact: Alan Hopkins was the name of a world-class pool player. This seems like the kind of hideout gun one would bring to a nine-ball tournament.

  • @SonicsniperV7
    @SonicsniperV7 Před 3 lety +22

    Not gonna lie I kinda like everything about this. Such a clever little system.

    • @cmtptr
      @cmtptr Před 3 lety +3

      Why would you lie about that?

    • @Vanilla0729
      @Vanilla0729 Před 3 lety +1

      I'd like to see someone copy this today, as a .38 special. Maybe .45 Long Colt too, but definitely sell better with a centerfire cartridge.

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 Před 3 lety

      @@cmtptr You have to be critical to be taken seriously. If you like everything, people won't believe you know enough.

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf Před 3 lety +9

    This is quite possibly the ONLY single-action revolver with a swing-out cylinder.

    • @buildingblocks51
      @buildingblocks51 Před 3 lety +3

      There was an experimental.44-40 Winchester revolver, and Moore's Patent Revolver from the 1860's but today North American Arms produces the Sidewinder

  • @TheWolfsnack
    @TheWolfsnack Před 3 lety +69

    bankrupt leftovers of bacon....sounds like my breakfast....

  • @calvinbrodhead6199
    @calvinbrodhead6199 Před 3 lety +2

    Can't say enough about how much I love this channel. Thank you for a lot of great content sir. Always informative, never ostentatious and also very consistent. You've been doing this well for a long time and I appreciate it.

    • @msashleighdelaney
      @msashleighdelaney Před 7 měsíci

      My thoughts EXACTLY!! Thank you for saying it first. Ditto!

  • @mykalpennings5968
    @mykalpennings5968 Před 3 lety

    I'm liking those safety notches between chambers so you could carry it with a fully loaded cylinder

  • @Passwalker1
    @Passwalker1 Před 3 lety +33

    3:13 KA-POINK

  • @dylanskutches3539
    @dylanskutches3539 Před 3 lety +1

    Loving all the old wheel guns, Thank you Ian!

  • @dosmundos3830
    @dosmundos3830 Před 3 lety +2

    i love your reviews on the old antique revolvers :) Thanks Ian

  • @ironwolfF1
    @ironwolfF1 Před 3 lety +4

    Definitely an 'up close & personal' pistol; 5 yards probably...10 yards with a prayer.

  • @nobletaco2188
    @nobletaco2188 Před 3 lety +34

    It’s like a large caliber NAA .22 Magnum

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni Před 3 lety +3

      The Pug is a step beyond, actually having a completely swing-out cylinder.

    • @gokuss15
      @gokuss15 Před 3 lety +4

      Stevarooni you’re thinking of the Sidewinder, the Pug has their standard disassemble to reload system.

    • @billyanderson321
      @billyanderson321 Před 3 lety +1

      Josh Callejas yup sidewinder, I’ve got the top break and the standard in 22bp, short, lr and magnum. Great little guns

  • @lukaszpokoju
    @lukaszpokoju Před 3 lety +61

    For some odd reason the thumbnails looked like a skull.

    • @user-xq5og9lt8p
      @user-xq5og9lt8p Před 3 lety +5

      Ikr? I thought it was a gun masked as a ring with a skull

    • @lukaszpokoju
      @lukaszpokoju Před 3 lety

      Let's hope it's not a bad omen.

    • @KageMinowara
      @KageMinowara Před 3 lety +21

      @@lukaszpokoju Its a warning to be wary of skeletons today. They could be anywhere.
      Even right inside you.

    • @leppeppel
      @leppeppel Před 3 lety +2

      I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw it!

    • @pfclumi
      @pfclumi Před 3 lety

      Yes

  • @ronlane1426
    @ronlane1426 Před 3 lety +19

    Interesting that the cylinder swings out to the right as it it was intended for left hand use.

    • @KenworthW900HG
      @KenworthW900HG Před 3 lety +9

      I suspect that that was not the designer's consideration - but rather that it presented the cylinder for loading on the same side as you would see the loading gate/ramp on just about every other revolver of the period including the other XL seen in this video

    • @gokuss15
      @gokuss15 Před 3 lety +6

      It only seems that way because modern doctrine is to never take your strong hand off the grip. I suspect that back in the revolver’s heyday people tended to hold the gun by the frame with their left hand and reload with the more dexterous right.

    • @kurtihavebestdogever6293
      @kurtihavebestdogever6293 Před 3 lety +5

      @@gokuss15 Yes, reloading with separate powder, projectile and percussion cap would have necessitated the used of your dominant hand for those tasks. Cartridges changed all of that but it likely took a while for designs to catch up

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 Před 3 lety

      I wish modern revolvers swung out to the right. I would find reloading much quicker by holding the gun with my weaker left hand and loading rounds with my stronger right hand.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 Před 3 lety

      @@kurtihavebestdogever6293 In some cases it was because they were intended for use by cavalry from horseback where the right hand managed the reins and held onto the main weapon- the sword.

  • @salemite
    @salemite Před 3 lety

    I actually picked up a lil Hopkins and Allen 32 Black Powder after a really old video of yours Ian. it's in rough but mechanically sound condition and I've been putting off loading 32 Short BPs for a long time now. You've inspired me to get off my butt! :D

  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il Před 3 lety +2

    I think Hopkins and Allen guns are totally underrated.

  • @joaoricardo6903
    @joaoricardo6903 Před 3 lety +2

    Waking up every morning with a New Ian s video brings a Smile to my face

  • @Khan.WrathOf
    @Khan.WrathOf Před 3 lety +1

    Absolutely adorable little wheelgun.

  • @billyanderson321
    @billyanderson321 Před 3 lety

    This pistol is like a large version of the North American Arms 22s. Safety notches on cylinder , trigger style and loading on non swing out ones. It’s like it’s great grandpa lol

  • @scottgoodman8993
    @scottgoodman8993 Před 3 lety +3

    It is 1864. I'm a private in the army making $13 a month. I am sent into battle with some chance of hand to hand combat with a muzzle loading rifle. I want one of these in my jacket pocket. For $2.50? Heck yes. Nobody around me has to know I have it until I use it to save my life.

    • @drido
      @drido Před 3 lety

      If its 1864 and there is going to be hand-to-hand combat, you'd be better off saving up for a bowie knife than a little rim-fired revolver. Just saying that's how things went down back then.

  • @viktormogilin307
    @viktormogilin307 Před 3 lety

    Always enjoy the historical element of all your videos,g'day from Aus

  • @MaveRick-on2cm
    @MaveRick-on2cm Před 3 lety +2

    What I'm really wanting , Ian is a post-mortem report concerning the Calico ,after round 3. You have, hopefully included brass and likely cleaned, then another 100 rnd shooting. I'm interested in one, I'll keep you posted on whether I can get one, or is it defunct. I love the concept, thanks, Rick

  • @chadbiever6643
    @chadbiever6643 Před 3 lety +1

    There could be a full playlist at this point of "Ian tries to rehabilitate Hopkins & Allen's reputation" videos.

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine Před 3 lety

    XL-6 sounds like such a modern name for a handgun.

  • @misterthegeoff9767
    @misterthegeoff9767 Před 3 lety +41

    There was a bacon arms company? How has nobody resurrected that brand name?

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před 3 lety +4

      Honestly, it could be for a food company, a clothing company, a firearms company, etc. That's an amazing name that should be re-embraced.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před 3 lety +4

      @Jake Roberts I mean, is there much better than a bacon creek? Maybe a bacon torrent or bacon tsunami.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před 3 lety +3

      Also, bacon tsunami sounds like an amazing sandwich. #trademarkingthatshitnow

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před 3 lety +2

      @Jake Roberts A constant reminder that no matter how bad everything gets, a little bacon makes things better.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před 3 lety +2

      @Jake Roberts Well to be fair, the amount of things named after Daniel Boone in KY is excessive.

  • @calamusgladiofortior2814

    I believe this model was marketed as the Down-on-His-Luck Southern Gentleman Gambler Special.

  • @chrisjones6002
    @chrisjones6002 Před 3 lety

    Watching this reminded me of the rumors a few years ago that NAA was working on a little 32acp, 5 shot revolver as a big(er) brother to their mini revolvers. I wish it happened because that sounds like a nice little backup and I already love their 22wmr revolvers.

  • @stonenash786
    @stonenash786 Před 3 lety

    H&A were very innovative. I had one in 38 sw, case hardened, with a 5 or 6 " barrel. Made about 1887-88. Real nice. It still had black powder rounds by Rem Umc.
    Great antique. The black powder 38 has a stronger kick than I thought. I wish I had kept it

  • @jobr2394
    @jobr2394 Před 3 lety

    The XL was a play on the roman numeral 40. Hence the xl-6 was the model 46 spur revolver.

  • @MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
    @MatthewBaileyBeAfraid Před 3 lety +1

    Oooh! That’s one I have marked to bid-on in Sept.
    I collect 19th Century “Off-Brand” Revolvers, mostly top-break and pocket-revolvers. I really want another Merwin & Hulbert .32.
    This one is “Lot# 1104” in the September Premier Auction, with an “Expected Value” of $1,600 to $2,400.
    The Black-Powder Pocket-Pistols are kind of a “niche,” and I am slowly starting to learn who my “Competitors” are, who also bid on these things.
    I just won a fairly decent “Smith & Wesson Model 1-½ 3rd Issue,” and a “Model 2 Safety Hammerless (Lemon Squeezer)” that was really the “Find” in that lot, where I got both for about ½ of what they were really worth (having inspected the guns, I caught some things on them that the Auction House didn’t, that I knew would make them a bit more “desire-able” than was listed).
    But I am really wanting some more Merwin & Hulbert, and this Hopkins & Allen caught my attention EXACTLY because of the “Swing-Out Cylinder.”
    I REALLY WISH that RIAC would have more auctions that had the 19th Century “Ideal Reloading Tools” that we’re often sold with these. Some guns had a wooden box, typical of 19th Century Revolvers, where an Ideal Reloading Tool was included with the gun, along with a little crucible for melting lead, and a few strips of lead, and a Powder-Bottle with a “Measuring-Spout” (The bottle would contain enough Black Powder for reloading between 100 & 200 Rounds, and the “Spout” was sized exactly to be filled with a precise charge of powder, and the tip of the spout sized to fit the mouth of a cartridge exactly, so you just had to put the spout into a cartridge, and then press the button to measure the powder, and then a second button to empty the powder into the Cartridge). Basically everything you would need to reload for a good long while while “out-West” in the US Territories, exploring areas that few “European” eyes had ever seen.
    I really wish that I could manage to win one of the damned auctions where the gun still has the original wooden box. I think if I saw a Model 1-½ 3rd Issue, or a Model 2 1st Issue (Baby Russian) that were not only Blued (instead of Nickel-Plated), but also contained the original case, I would be willing to sell something to bid whatever I needed to in order to win it.

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs Před 3 lety +2

    Cool! I just bought 42 rounds of antique .41 caliber rimfire ammo, some day I'll find something to shoot it in.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 3 lety +1

      An old Derringer would be the classic example.

  • @roiukko4945
    @roiukko4945 Před 3 lety +13

    At first I thought the bacon manufacturing company meant like a butcher or something.

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 Před 3 lety

    It's almost always surprising to see a gun with a feature we take for granted existing on an old gun that didn't sweep the market when it was new.
    In another video you mention the "We don't need no newfangled gadgets" mindset but in this case it strikes me that it was because the axis pin/ejection tool wasn't captive and was therefore just something else to fumble with and possibly drop/lose while reloading.
    Thanks again Ian, for showing us the "might have beens".

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 3 lety

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @HalfWarrior
    @HalfWarrior Před 3 lety

    Thank you Ian!

  • @AxLWake
    @AxLWake Před 3 lety

    Really cool little pocket revolver.

  • @kanesmith2855
    @kanesmith2855 Před 3 lety

    Ian been finding some real gems recently

  • @jamesellsworth9673
    @jamesellsworth9673 Před 3 lety

    Handsome package for close work as a hide out gun.

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 Před 3 lety +32

    Looking at the gun, that's basically a rich dude's special tool. You don't need that much bling unless you plan to blind your enemies with it.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 Před 3 lety +9

      Gambler's gun.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 3 lety +1

      From a time when "dress to impress" meant all the accessories and accoutrements, even and especially for guys, not for the ladies.

  • @patrickseaman
    @patrickseaman Před 3 lety

    Price certainly plays a big role in the success of most guns in competitive market segments. It would be interesting on some of these to have a better idea of what was competing against a particular forgotten weapon, and what their respective prices were at the time.

  • @RalphReagan
    @RalphReagan Před 3 lety +2

    Beautiful!

  • @mascadadelpantion8018
    @mascadadelpantion8018 Před 3 lety

    Holy mother of crap!! This seems like an actually decent pocket pistol!! Who knew Hopkins and Allen was actually capable of making ONE decent gun?

  • @droganovic6879
    @droganovic6879 Před 3 lety

    That swing cylinder is really neat!
    And yes _of course_ I'm interested in your video on the XL-8!
    But in closing, I leave you with a quote :
    "Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"
    It sure *does* look _pretty_ though!

  • @Rooster1172T
    @Rooster1172T Před 3 lety +1

    2:04 I laughed probably more than I should have on this one!

  • @jasoncrow7681
    @jasoncrow7681 Před 3 lety +2

    I actually said, "ooohh." When the cylinder spun out.

  • @TylerSnyder305
    @TylerSnyder305 Před 3 lety +1

    Reminds me of the I☆XL trademark used by the George Whostenholm and sons knife company from Sheffield.

  • @Doc-Holliday1851
    @Doc-Holliday1851 Před 3 lety +8

    I could actually see you reloading the less advanced one faster. carry a few extra, preloaded cylinders with you pop out the spent one and put a new cylinder in hell on wheels style when you need to reload.

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 Před 3 lety +10

      With a gun that small they just used to carry spare preloaded revolvers instead

    • @luisnunes2010
      @luisnunes2010 Před 3 lety

      It's been tried on a timer. The video should still be up. Nope.

    • @Doc-Holliday1851
      @Doc-Holliday1851 Před 3 lety

      @@luisnunes2010 I haven't seen a video of it being tried with this gun but it takes less than 10 seconds to replace the cylinder of an 1858 new army revolver.

    • @luisnunes2010
      @luisnunes2010 Před 3 lety

      @@Doc-Holliday1851 Not in field or match conditions.

    • @Doc-Holliday1851
      @Doc-Holliday1851 Před 3 lety +1

      @@luisnunes2010 I guess. I haven't seen that

  • @georgewilson7432
    @georgewilson7432 Před 3 lety +1

    What a beauty.

  • @WalterBurton
    @WalterBurton Před 3 lety

    Cool. Wouldn't have guessed "XL" dated as far back as the 1870s (at least). 👍👍👍

  • @Mikkelltheimmortal
    @Mikkelltheimmortal Před 3 lety

    That's a really good looking gun.

  • @thelonerider9693
    @thelonerider9693 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow last time I was this early the powder was still black lol.
    Nice looking revolver btw. Why is it so many of these early handguns are so pleasing to the eye?

  • @gregb6469
    @gregb6469 Před 3 lety

    That rod you pull out to swing out the cylinder strikes me as something that would very easily be dropped and lost. I hope the gun came with extra rods.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Před 3 lety

    The balliatics of a black-powder cartridge with what looks like a 1" barrel can't have been very impressive.

  • @Hirosjimma
    @Hirosjimma Před 3 lety

    Charles, Charles Hopkins and Hopkins
    Sound like an amazing company name tbh.

  • @lairdcummings9092
    @lairdcummings9092 Před 3 lety

    Cute little handful of a revolver.
    Ian, can you comment on the development of the fully opening crane arm/star ejecting revolver cylinder, compared to the system used here?

  • @quatro_quatro
    @quatro_quatro Před 3 lety +19

    From the makers of "the big iron" and "the fairly sized iron", now comes an iron for everybody:
    The mini iron!
    AIRHOOOOORNS!!!!

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine Před 3 lety +1

      It wasn't big enough for one and nineteen more notches, but it did have one and four more hammer notches for added safety.

  • @ilyasguner2267
    @ilyasguner2267 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful

  • @danilonakazone386
    @danilonakazone386 Před 3 lety +1

    This is such a nice take on a really small pockett self defense revolver! I wish I could buy something like this, but more modern... Why gun makers stopped making this kind of thing?

    • @danilonakazone386
      @danilonakazone386 Před 3 lety

      @Howie Felterbush Oh wow so this is wny... It does not make any sense... People can still use a regular frame .38 to go on "saturday night specials" lol... heck, people can USE ANY gun if theu can conceal it... It's rather dumb prohibit something in this manner...

    • @weswolever7477
      @weswolever7477 Před 3 lety

      Danilo Nakazone Never ask the government “how stupid can you get “
      They’ll take it as a challenge

  • @cB-sr9kd
    @cB-sr9kd Před 3 lety

    "The Bacon Arms Company" is a name that really raises your expectations.

  • @vixx1497
    @vixx1497 Před 3 lety +1

    That cylinder design looks to me like it's better for a left-hander than a right, which, much as I approve, seems an odd choice, especially for the times.

    • @shyfox_69
      @shyfox_69 Před 3 lety +1

      Colt SAAs and many other guns of that era load left handed too, I think the idea was to hold the gun in your non-dominant hand so your dominant is handling the fiddly little individual cartridges, as opposed to keeping a firing grip when changing mags like we do today, their reloads took a while longer lol.

  • @jm9371
    @jm9371 Před 3 lety +1

    "... 3 pixels worth of gun"... ROFL. Very interesting firearm.

  • @willdog3
    @willdog3 Před 3 lety

    I have a Hopkins and Allen Safety Police from 1914ish, not really a horrible revolver other than normal wear and tear. I shot it many many times without issue up until the main spring snapped. Bought it for 60 bucks back in 2008 lol. Looks cool, so will probably become a display piece.

  • @User_Un_Friendly
    @User_Un_Friendly Před 3 lety +1

    Isn’t it about time for a Callico video?🤣

  • @mrfrosty3
    @mrfrosty3 Před 3 lety

    I like that swing out cylinder trick. I find guns intended for civilian use very interesting, particularly those sold through old mail order catalogues.

  • @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming
    @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming Před 3 lety

    If only they'd actually made the ejector rod pivot out attached rather than loose, could have been a real game changer to compete with the 1873 colt

  • @PhilipDaigle
    @PhilipDaigle Před 3 lety

    Your videos are awesome and I never miss an episode. Are these type of firearms called "spur-hammer" or "spur-trigger"? (technically both? there is a definitely a spur-hammer, but I think a distinguishing characteristic on this particular example is the spur-trigger)

    • @shyfox_69
      @shyfox_69 Před 3 lety

      Well this is a single action so if it didn't have a hammer spur it would be unshootable lol, but yeah this could definitely be referred to as a spur-trigger pocket revolver, though later this model also had trigger guards like Ian said, so that isn't really a reliable characteristic of the XL6 for ID I guess.

  • @blamokapow137
    @blamokapow137 Před 3 lety

    Looks great and hard to shoot well.

    • @dosmundos3830
      @dosmundos3830 Před 3 lety +1

      it's recommended distance is the length of a poker table :)

    • @blamokapow137
      @blamokapow137 Před 3 lety

      @@dosmundos3830 Spot on!

  • @zachleprieur2871
    @zachleprieur2871 Před 3 lety +1

    Never thought id hear the phrase "bacon went bankrupt"

  • @TheTrimed1
    @TheTrimed1 Před 3 lety

    Omg, they should have had this in the original Wild Wild west replacing the 2 shot deringer, would have been so good

  • @riobux3018
    @riobux3018 Před 3 lety +2

    Out of curiosity and as confirmation: Were the Suicide Specials called such because the build quality was so terrible they were just as likely to blow up in your hand than actually fire a bullet?

  • @rogerlafrance6355
    @rogerlafrance6355 Před 3 lety

    If nothing else, you can be sure S&W, Colt and others took note of the swing out cylinder and it seems strange that they started making such about the time the patent ran out. Another story?

  • @christianwouters6764
    @christianwouters6764 Před 3 lety

    It s a model suitable for lefthanded people. The cylinder swings open to the right.

  • @tongyu284
    @tongyu284 Před 3 lety +22

    So...Does no one see the "mini skull" in the thumbnail...?

    • @KageMinowara
      @KageMinowara Před 3 lety

      I had to look at it for a while but then I saw it.

    • @ironwolfF1
      @ironwolfF1 Před 3 lety

      Kinda sorta... 😉

    • @richfairclough123
      @richfairclough123 Před 3 lety

      I saw that straight away..

    • @richfairclough123
      @richfairclough123 Před 3 lety

      Was thinking about it before I read your comment

    • @georgiv7154
      @georgiv7154 Před 3 lety

      At first i didnt recognize its a Forgotten Weapons video because of that. Cant unsee it!!!

  • @karlmoles6530
    @karlmoles6530 Před 3 lety +1

    It's like an 1800s Chief's Special

  • @vendetta2975
    @vendetta2975 Před 3 lety +3

    hey Ian! I would like to see you with some modern guns I don't have any interest in firearms but I'd like to know technical details with ur presentation.

    • @jeffreyknickman5559
      @jeffreyknickman5559 Před 3 lety

      There are such videos. He likes guns that're unusual in some way, so you're liable to see anything from an old wheel-lock, up to something like the .45 H & K the SEALS use

  • @thespankdmonkey
    @thespankdmonkey Před 3 lety

    The Kel Tech of the late 1800's has now become collectible!

  • @jasonhill8696
    @jasonhill8696 Před 3 lety

    Is there like a giant lot of Hopkins & Allen stuff this auction?

  • @tomdixon7264
    @tomdixon7264 Před 3 lety

    The spring's the thing.

  • @bernardomenegattideoliveir224

    A cute lil gun

  • @thevoxofreason8468
    @thevoxofreason8468 Před 3 lety

    Hmmm...I actually like this little thing. Would be an interesting piece in a collection. One thing though: Either I missed it in the vid or it wasn't there, but do we know the approximate date this one was made?

  • @eliasgordon4321
    @eliasgordon4321 Před 3 lety

    6 degrees of Bacon Manufacturing

  • @doublepiedavid8908
    @doublepiedavid8908 Před 3 lety

    Hopkins and Allen: Hi-point in the 1880s

  • @lordadamfirst
    @lordadamfirst Před 3 lety

    Would be interesting to hear the original price of other guns you review, assuming that info is available.

  • @russbilzing5348
    @russbilzing5348 Před rokem

    I wonder if anyone who owned an XL-5 ever mentioned it's 'fireball'...

  • @mayorgeneralramirez1997
    @mayorgeneralramirez1997 Před 3 lety +6

    3:13 *kopoink*

  • @braincube013
    @braincube013 Před 3 lety +1

    If it were on the left side I’d be sold even more.