How To rescue with the ZIGZAG
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- HOW TO RESCUE WITH ZIGZAG
In this video, Keith Luscinski with the Petzl Technical Institute. will cover how to use your Petzl ZIGZAG in a few basic partner rescue applications. We'll be looking at two different techniques for using a ZIGZAG in a rescue. First, we'll look at the scenario where the rescuer and the victim stay on independent systems throughout the rescue. Then, we'll look at the scenario where the rescuer and the victim do an accompanied descent together on a single ZIGZAG. We'll start by looking at the technique where the rescuer operates the victim's ZIGZAG.
Thanks for posting videos demonstrating your products. Very helpful!
would love to see you guys do the same video, rescue with a zigzag, but also incorporate the ID-S. Either way, great video, thank you!
I'm attentive to this excellent explanation. Greetings to you
You really should have two points of attachment to the person being recued. This rule is not just for Rope Access technicians.
It is just a rule for rope access. no stock rescue kit uses more than one point.
Really well done! Thank-you
When rescueing on one system: Is it possible to use the zig zag with chicane on dobble rope system and save the extra friction on braking rope side?
that was coolio guys ...!!!!! thank you
Dangerous techniques presented by Petzl.
hello petzl the zigzag has a workload equal to 140 kg, how can it be safe to rescue another equipped arborist? Will the weight not exceed the limits for this equipment?
Usually when the rescue takes place they are still connected to their own climbing line you you are only helping lower them on their own line instead of switching them to yours. However if you have to descend on one zigzag you may go over the weight limit, this doesn’t mean the zigzag will break, but it may cause it to slip, so you would need to add extra friction, e.g. using a ring as a place to create more friction, and ensure you are holding on the rope when you descend.
I would still trust the ID or the Harken Clutch for a rescue, the Zigzag is a cool idea but eeeh, looks to be very touchy for accidental release.
I am no technician but I believe that because it is indeed being overloaded, petzl requires the use of that friction ring to reduce the friction on the zigzag
Yes, you are overloading the device, but this is not normal use. This is used in an exceptional circumstance in an emergency.
I bet that's the Zigzag that I received that you all used with two people on it 🤔
The knot over the the zigzag is a bad technique that can go bad in so many ways. Might want to test these techniques out more before you present them to the public. Sorry Petzl, love your products and advocacy, but this video is not well thought out.
Maybe you could explain why this is a bad technique..
It seems Petzl has thought about it and tested it. Else they would never have recommended this technique.
how can we do it better?
@@stivengonzalez8464 experiment & discuss all new techniques with unaffiliated experienced users who will challenge every idea & choice.
@@stivengonzalez8464 a better technique would be to use a carabiner to attach each climber’s attachment carabiner (the one between their zigzag & harness) together. This will hold the zigzags close together so that both can be operated with one hand, but can be released if anything gets funky.
@@woodpeckerarborist thats exactly the reason why you shouldn't do that bud, you should not operate 2 devices simultaneously with 1 hand, you answered your own question, just with another thing you shouldn't do lol. What Petzl demonstrated is the better of all currently available techniques and under those specific circumstances. Demonstrated because it is trialled and tested. I've used it myself and found it to be very effective when lowering a victim, allowing me to focus on 1 device while tending to the victim is the best possible scenario.