Top 10 Boss Monsters That Aged Badly in YuGiOh
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- In this video we'll go over boss monsters from the early days of Yu-Gi-Oh, who didn't age as well over the years, and hardly ever see play nowadays.
-Deck code names-
10-Chaos Emperor dragon - Envoy of the End (errata)
9- Chaos Sorcerer (power creep)
8- Black Luster Soldier (Saw tiny amounts of play in 2005 Earth BD deck)
7- La Jinn the mystical genie of the lamp (saw lots of play in various decks)
6- Blowback Dragon (saw lots of play in various decks)
5- Airknight Parshath (saw lots of play in various decks)
4- Vampire Lord (saw lots of play in various decks)
3- Evil HERO Dark Gaia (stopped by a single Effect Veiler/Impermanence)
2- Hitotsu-Me Giant (Highest atk lv4 monster in first ever set)
1- Summoned Skull (not even played in duel links were its synchro version is played)
Still see play - Jinzo, Lava Golem, cyber dragon, all signature cards.
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They didn't age badly for yugioh.
Yugioh aged badly for them.
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Is it bad that I have a summoned skull deck in duel links and have climbed decently high with it
No summoned skull and makiu is pretty decent in duel links, cause in duel links they have barely any hand traps or back row removal
@@Hater20X Nope. It isn't bad, it just shows you have skill.
yeah erratas shouldn't count given they rewrote the card, not that the game got too fast (like mirror force). CED would be great with the original effect. Especially as a burn finisher after gagaga cowboy or the like. This was a bad list. Chaos Sorcerer was never a great card (I'd just xyz into rank 6 with gagaga magician, or that stupid sorcerer of dark magic). It was a poor man's BLS, which can actually target face down monsters.
Then 5:20 over Mobius the Frost Monarch (which was dominant until Caius let you banish anything, or itself for 1000 additional damage to opponent to win).
I like how "not even duel links wants him" is an argument for a card being bad
But a true and harrowing statement a card in Yu-Gi-Oh could get.
That would be because the meta of duel links is like a kiddy version of the current meta so it goes without saying that if the thing with the lower standards doesn’t want a card than it’s really bad
@@brianlowe904 it's more like a version of the past meta since many meta cards from today have not been introduced yet and xyz and link monsters aren't part of the game yet
jdiaz2809 I mean, Orcust are in duel links
i was about to like your comment, but then i saw that you have 420 comments. Can't do sorry
Back then: "WOW! This card has 1900 atk and doesn't need a tribute? That's broken!"
Now: *1900atk/1000def This card will allow you to draw 2 cards, special summon a lvl 4 monster from your hand or deck, destroy a card on your opponent's side of the field, make your opponent have an aneurysm, literally flip the table, shoot your opponent in the head and bribe the referees on the turn it's summoned.*
"Eh, it's decent."
Not if it let you draw cards, they're weirdly hung up on that. The rest would be fine though
Keeper of dragon magic in a nutshell except it can summon a lvl 8 or more if theyre on a fusion card
all this and we are hung up on the draw 2 cards part.
@@andco53 **In the Heath Ledger Joker voice**
_Cards... _*_clicks tongue_*_ are power. And whoever has the mosr cards, has the most power._
_Cards... are like freedom, and control. You want them, you _*_need_*_ them, and if you can just _*_get_*_ those cards without waiting, without pay, without sacrifice, then that is pure unadulterated power in your hand in_ *One. Card.*
@@andco53 here’s why a card that just says “draw 1 card, give your opponent 1000 life” is limited:
If you could, would you just run the 5 pieces of Exodia in your deck and win every game in your opening hand? If you were trying to win, course you would. But, there is a minimum deck of 40 cards, so you can’t do that. Even without the exodia example, most decks would be more consistent with 20/30 cards rather than 40, so they’d be happy to just remove cards from their deck, which is why a spell that draws a card is so good, it’s an empty deck slot.
So a card that draws two cards is rediculous, because it also gives you card advantage, imagine the crazy combos people do with 5 or 6 cards in hand in yu gi oh, now imagine it with 7 cards, there’s a reason draw was way more lenient back in the day, because you would end up with a bunch of normal monsters, spells/traps that revolve around monsters, and also effect monsters that give you some value, so back then “you only have 1 normal summon” meant usually only 1 or 2 summons a turn, and really only 3 or 4 cards could even be used a turn, even if you summoned a tonne of monsters or set a tonne of traps, they’d just get raigeki’d or heavy stormed, now you can use every card in your hand as a combo piece and get multiple negates out which stop your opponent from nuking you without certain going second cards
If you remember in the 1st episode ever, Joey showed several of his cards & a lot of them only have ~500 attack points. Now I understand why those were in his deck, because he didn’t have another option.
It also explains why Blue Eyes was so ridiculously overpowered. Not helping is the fact that, in the early manga and anime (and I'm guessing the Bandai card game), they didn't think to base tribute summons around the levels, so you could just bring the thing out onto the field in an instant..... in fact, what were the levels even for? Just more flavor?
@@YamatoFukkatsu The whole way monster stats were treated in the vanilla days bothers me so much and I think this terrible design is what paved the way for yugioh to become the monstrosity it is now. It didn't matter if a monster had 1-4 levels. In the same way, it didn't matter if it had 5-6, or 7+. Of all the stats a monster card had (Attribute, Type, Levels, Atk/Def) the only thing that mattered was its Attack and how many tributes it needed. And as you said, monsters didn't even need tributes at first. Yugioh's early days were a mess.
@@YamatoFukkatsu In the show a monster's level originally was meant to represent said card's rarity. This is shown during the beginning of the Battle City arc when they go to get their duel disks, only reason Joey was able to enter was due to the rarity of his Red Eyes Black Dragon.
@@7rhymes599 yah I'm like 99% sure season 1 yugioh was more like a Role playing game and it was not until around battle city they started following the game rules, or if game rules were invented? I remember that yugioh manga came otu before cards, not sure if also true for anime.
@@dragonkingofthestars It is ! the card game was meant to be a narrative tool, so the manga author didn't cared about balance, the real game came later
I’m so out of date with Yu-Gi-Oh that this video is pretty much cards I used to play.
got room in your camp for one more? I miss the days that decks consisted of 4.. maybe 5 effect monsters and the rest being normal. Furthermore those effect monsters you did have were, 90% of the time, 1-3 star ''weaklings'' with low ATK/DEF stats. Their effects earned them a slot in our decks.
I haven't bought structure decks or boosters for a decade but i remember the last few boosters i did get having 4 star effect monsters that got me ''useless effect, but .. it's got 1800 attack so i'll put it in my deck'' . This is just one example, i'm sure there is way more to think of:p
Bro same. Most of this card was my favorite. Especially Summoned Skull.
In High School I dusted off my Middle School deck and asked to play with a few of the people playing at lunch. I set up... turn 1, set 1 card and 2 spells. Opponent's turn comes out, spent 5 minutes talking and had a full board of beatsticks ready to destroy my 2000 defense Stone Statue of the Aztecs... Yeah thats where I lost interest in the game.
@@DemonVermin Yeah, you don't need actual strategy or skill anymore to play Yu-Gi-Oh. play 1 card and a chain reaction of effects linked to cards from everywhere.. Deck.. hand, graveyard.. extra deck .. heck even cards that are removed from play (out of the game) aren't reaaaaally out of the game.. there are fix cards for even that.
@@lunasilvermoon2283 and it doesnt help that the popular online yugioh simulator is horribly formatted making chains hard to complete without fucking up and ruining your turn and in real life hard to keep up for both players if you can even find anyone to play with which is honestly why i would rather play rpgs today then card games like pokemon gives me that card game feel without linear and yet complicated facets at the same time
Nerfing cards is dumb, just leave them banned, with their dignity intact.
Seriously, otherwise we get the horribly neutered Crush Card....
More like "slight bump" card at this point
RIP then good version of Future Fusion. Literally unplayable now.
Let them die with dignity cause if u unban them with heavliy nerfed effects that's just a sad death
Im a bit out of the Game how does this even works i mean i got the chaos emperor dragen with the old effect
I remember the power creep from a level 4 having 1800 atk to 1900 was so significant that Vorse Raider was a Secret Rare with its own collector's tin, which is absolutely bananas.
stop playing Card games and solve your math problem!
@@jacobreichert836 Tao can't crack it, so I never stood a chance!
Yeah loke now we weap out our ass with it
I had that tin and vorse raider so long ago. I didn’t keep playing much after that though. I didn’t like the power creep
Back in my day people were paying $300 for mechanicalchaser for that 1850 lol
I remember being so excited when my starting hand was Monster Reborn, Summoned Skull, and Axe of Despair. For the first year or so of Yugioh, that was basically unbeatable
"This is Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End!"
"Duel Logs, this is the 7th week in a row you've shown Chaos Emperor Dragon"
It shows up a lot!
@@TheDuelLogs pretty sluty for a so called emperor
Still appears less in these videos than Ultimate Falcon, I swear Duel Logs finds a way to talk about that card in pretty much every video he can.
@@TheDuelLogs next just be like "you know him, you hate him, next"
It's just means that CED is such a busted card that it's always appears on "Top 10" lists
I hate when they errata cards. They basically destroy the history of the card and what made it so great. I'd rather they'd keep cards on the banlist and just print newer cards with similar effects. Sorta like how they did with rescue rabbit.
Anthill that’s exactly what old school expert said.
They can destroy peoples memory when they errata cards? I hope Konami doesn't come near me to erase my memory.
Pot of greed is the best example
They did the same with Crush Card Virus. I'd rather have CCV remain on the banlist but still have it's original effect, rather than have it at 3 copies with the garbage effect it has now.
No Fun Intended then just search up the original effect and depending on the online platform or if it’s irl just play the original effect lol. Nobody is forcing you to play a casual format so strictly
I love how the background changes to resemble the background of the cards
i feel like summoned skull could be really good if given some decent support cards. Like how support cards keep red-eyes, blue-eyes and DM relevant to this day. summoned skull deserves the same treatment dammit!
He got new cards. They sucked.
@@catisreckless4647 atleast the synchro one saw play in duel links a bit
@@Beatbot400 Yeah, but duellogs guy said duel links didn't even play vanilla Skull. They should have just made the retrained Skulls generic Archfiend support. Would have made them much better, and it still would have given a boost to og Skull himself since he's treated as part of the archetype anyway.
@@Beatbot400 i still use it.
Probably the only one left
@@rubbegameing5370 I use it in my red eyes deck.
*sees Chaos Emperor Dragon's nerf*
Look how they massacred my boy... 😥
Black Luster Solider
Wow, Jinzo still sees competitive play? That makes me a little happy inside for some reason.
As a side deck option. Negating counter traps and annoying impermanences and evenlys is always good, tho
Denko Sekka kinda took over his role TBH.
Dude, I'd play Jinzo with my descent fun strong deck against meta players and it's just so hillarious when they felt stopped by Him, and then appears his friend Spell Canceller with an Inspector Boarder sometimes and they felt Like shit with Anykind of play cause they need extra deck and spells or traps to do and anygood monster to Battle Like old school
Just in case paleozoics come back
@@HHmz-rp8ht
They need too. Paleozoics need to have an identity outside of being Toads secret gay lover lol
Been playing duel links recently and I was amazed at how the game has considerably changed. The cards I used to consider myself lucky to have are now nowhere near what I thought them to be. I do like the pendulum summoning, xyz and synchros but old Yu Gi cards had that charm and rarity to them that made you grind and feel engaged.
i hate pendulums lol. everything else is ok or can be dealt with. but yeah idk its not as fun as it used to be
Fr I was in gold rank without even trying now that I have returned I'm only Cooper now trying and can't even get to silver
@@cxthejokercx8302 bro buy the cyberverse starter only 500 gems I don’t even know how pendulums link and the new cards work but with that deck I got to gold 2 easy😉😉💪
Me in 2020 trying to get back into yugioh: “This should be fun!”
Meta deck users: “Fun? We don’t do that here.”
I prefer the older Yu-Gi-Oh now it has become who has the most negates wins
Play duel links. Yeah you have to grind to get cards without money but plat and below in ranked is pretty fun most of the time
@@daytonholo2750
To this day, i find it absurd in a darkly hilarious manner that even the worst Archetype deck can destroy any deck from the old days with ease. The entirety of the yugioh anime's season 1 would lose to any archetype that's considered gutter trash, because that's just how crazy the power creep has become.
I agree. YGO has become horrid because it tries to stay relevant as a TCG.
Modern Meta decks are usually pretty fun to play and heavily reward game knowledge, not sure what decks you're talking about specifically.
I don’t know why I laughed when he slowly said “piercing battle damage” as though it was an absolutely broken effect, although I do know it was certainly a great effect back in the older days of YuGiOh.
I loved that. He said it like 'inflict 6000 damagr to your opponent'...
Back in the past, some decks use indestrutible by battle monsters as a wall
That monsters were getting limited at that time
So that is a thing in the past while removal cards is not as many as now
@@jofx4051 Spirit Reaper was at 1 for about 4 years...
wait so piercing effect is considered bad in today yugioh?? *Ancient gears cry in a corner
@@voanhtoan6325 Just too slow
Nowadays the game focuses on building or breaking board not battle-related effect which is bad nowadays
That's why Dragonmaid is bad for any reason
My Saggi the Dark Clown: You can't age badly if you're already bad!
Lol saggi is bad but still useful as a starting wall so you can get monsters out then get a better monster by tributing him
My Hane-Hane is so bad it mocks your Saggi
Saggi could work with crush card but now crush card has a new effect
I think of Kaiba losing to Pegasus when I hear saggi
@@bobbybero7452 it does?
"This card was banned because it was so over powered, but now there are multiple others that do what this card does but better." Honestly, this card game has seen better days.
Most tcg games do.
Lets take all the cheap cards everyone has a million of
And make em useless
And ban the effective cards
*Brilliant Satin, Fucking Brilliant* -.-
This is because they didn't managed power creeping (i THINK it's written like that, but i'm not sure). Even hearthstone managed it better
welcome to what happens when you don't have a rotating format like standard in MTG
Other than Mtg most card games don’t have any use for old cards for a reason
Yu-gi-oh's power creep is truly legendary
I kinda miss the old days where everything was simpler
There's always Speed Duels and Goat Format... :3
@@autobotstarscream765 tru and may 2002 format and highlander format.
same herr.... im quite lost interest when they introduced syncro XYZ and the worst Link or that other one.....spell card looking like
Muhammad Hafizi synchro and xyz were fine to me. Most of the time you were only looking at one xyz or synchro monster per turn, just special summoning 2 level 4’s or a tuner and whatever else in your hand. They started to lose me at pendulum and link summoning. Link monsters are literally the reason why someone can make these overpowered boards that if you saw back in the day (like 5 years ago) you would call a judge to report them cheating because literally all of their monsters have a way to negate all of your cards. Pendulums weren’t as bad, at first, but of course as support cards became a thing for them, it didn’t take long for pendulums to run through about 14 cards in one turn. Then link spam decks just run through like 30 cards in a turn. It’s pretty ridiculous. To be fair though, pendulums at first weren’t that consistent until they got support and was able to search a bunch of things they needed. It was a real shame seeing someone running performapals back in 2016-2017 and they had a bunch of scales that were totally useless in bringing out these dead weight level 5+ monsters.
It was fine up to xyz. After pendulums and links it got pathetic. Simple yugioh was way better. Now a days I swear one turn can take upwards of ten minutes. Its ridiculous.
I get that when a game has been around this long, power creep is inevitable, but it's kind of sad to see cards become literally useless after some time.
Sometimes the opposite happens.
Thats why i loved duel links when it first came out! it was great to build your deck from scrap using monsters like celtic guardian and summoned skull.
Reverse power creep also exists.
Proof: Ancient Fairy Dragon. She can clear out the Field Zones, heal you for 1000, and act as another Terraforming. And can also net you a free summon from the hand, meaning she extends plays like crazy and is hence banned today.
@@cameraredeye3115
YEAH!
@@cameraredeye3115 true. And reverse Power creep is something that happends maybe not on a frequent base but is not to rare either. Just look at Galaxy Tomahawk, Ancient Fairy Dragon or the probably best example Grinder Golem
Fun fact. Silver fang was actually the original boss monster in Vol 1. Not Giant. Because Giant, and Mammoth Graveyard didn't have any equip spells that could target them. The first competitive decks in the first ever format in 1999 were Beast beatdown decks that ran Silver Fang, Dark Gray, and Meotoko along with the equip spell Beast Fangs. Because Beast-Warrior, and Dinosaur didn't have equip spells yet. Silver Fang equipped with Beast Fangs would be 1500, and could beat over Mammoth, and Giant. So all of the decks at the first ever national tournament in Japan were running Beasts as their main win condition, and then they'd just will in the rest of the deck by picking two other types that had equip spell cards. Normally either Spellcaster Aqua, or Spellcaster Warrior. Because Spellcaster, Aqua, and Warrior were the only types that had both equip spell synergy, and monsters with the second best attack stat. Which was 800 atk. Nemuriko, The Furious Sea King, and Kagemusha Of The Blue Flames respectively. Out of boredom some friends and I occasionally play little tournaments using the February 1999 Format.
Damn, I miss the days when I used to run a deck with Vampire Lord as the main card and the game had a healthy balance of monster, spells and traps. This is part of the reason why I still play tagforce games, especially the first ones, because of the nostalgia of these more balanced times.
Everything went to hell after GX
@Keeper of Red-Eyes I'll say 5ds, I love synchros
@pandaboi551 I like some of what 5ds has to offer too. For example black rose dragon to me is awesome!
But let's be real honest. Syncrhos were only made because the company ran out of ideas after focusing on making so many effect monsters throughout DM and GX.
It was just the beginning of that slippery slope. So sadly yes after GX the game slipped into madness.
Konami with their cancerous erratas. It makes zero sense to nerf a card to uselessness when newer broken cards will take their spot on the banlist.
Ikr. Keep the original effect so when it finally gets power creeped off the banlist we can still play it the same way.
Konami needs to learn to make erratas make the card not broken but still FUN to use. Screwing the card over with a too hard nerf makes it not fun to use at all.
I have to say upper deck managed the game better than komoney does 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@Owl-yc2yu If there's no erratas nerfing the card, newer cards will need to be even more ridiculous to powercreep them.
Hence Cards like Painfull Choice will never come off the ban list
This makes me feel so old.
Remember when people thought yugioh was super complicated back in the day! Game had to evolve! I still play the old games at times. I wish they made a duelist of the Roses 2
I only play Yugioh through Link Evolution, but I would love another Tag Force game. With all the obsession with making every video game series some type of Open World, I'm kinda surprised that Yugioh hasn't done that yet. An open world Yugioh game, where you travel around, duel npcs and players, meet characters from the anime and befriend them so you can tag up in tournaments, etc. That game would sell itself, easily.
In the TCG there was a long time where La Ginn and 7 Colored Fish were the top hitters. It was years before Gemini Elf came out as a Secret Rare and MChaser was so rare that you rarely ever saw one
@@stratelite1337 2003-2006 was my favorite era.
@@stratelite1337 you seriously quit because of a 1900 atk vanilla monster?
I remember when I was a kid, could only afford a few packs a month and by some extreme luck I got both envoy monsters in my first 3 packs. Cards so rare no one else was pulling them. For a short time I was dominating tournaments with my chaos deck. I think I won my first tournament with it
The story is a lie
I remember when I was a kid and Summoned Skull came out for the first time oh the good old yugioh days
I have that card it is still good do
It is still a great card I have still from my childhood the original secret rare in the ultra rare
Yeah right
Good for him.
My strongest and best memory of the Summoned Skull was from the Anime when even the experienced Mai, who was implied to have seen more than her fair share of duels, had no idea what the hell she was looking at when Yugi summoned him. The vibe I got from that scene as that only Pegasus and perhaps Kaiba would have known about the Summoned Skull.
Anime rules were broken as fuck though, especially duelist kingdom season was taped together with a string of deus ex machina happenings to allow the gang to beat the game basically. Makyu Mist boosting the SS by a 1000 atk, lol
Old Yugioh: Takes 50 turns for a level 6 monster
New Yugioh: Combo opponent in one turn or die to opponent combo
It's crazy to think that the meta has become so overblown that hand traps have to exist so your opponent doesn't solitaire their way into an FTK. Playing the 2005 world championship game for GBA has made me appreciate how well-paced the game used to be
That's probably because Yu-Gi-Oh uses an eternal format where you can mish together cards that were never supposed to coexist in the same deck.
@@primosdesegundograu1204 Except meta decks have archetypes specifically built around fast gameplay due to a general powercreep like with pendulum monsters. Most old cards, besides certain staples, don't have much use in meta decks and won't stand up to them by themselves in any capacity.
The newer cards suck i would never play any new Yu-Gi-Oh, only old. Old is 100x better these new cards look so ugly. uggh
@@thehaloring90
Yeah, I also miss the old days when there was far more balance to stuff. Bigger monsters required more effort and cost to bring out, bigger effects had bigger requirements, and so on. (Obviously there were still limits, like I'm not saying stuff like Great Moth or Gate Guardian were ever good or worth it, lol.)
one of my favorite monsters to play in the early days were Horus Level 6/8 and Silent Swordsman level 5, with a Royal Decree or Jinzo. Mostly because my opponents would use a lot of stall cards, like Swords of Revealing Light, Messenger of Peace or Level Limit Area B. I got so tired of trying to destroy these spell cards, I just started using monsters that were immune to spell cards.
A lot of my opponents hated me for it.
In tag force 6, i run 3x burden of the mighty, 3x royal decree and 1 jinzo. My opponent cant do anything LOL.
I played table top Yugioh around 18 years ago and I recognise 90% of those cards and none of the "newer" ones 😂
I miss playing these cards, I miss old yugioh before synchro came out
synchro looks really cheap for me , but what do i know i stopped playing in 08 or smth
I missed yugioh before pendulum
XYZ were the last good special monsters Arc V sucked
Duel links is where I had enough
Synchro was fine , Pendulum however destroyed yugioh so much they had to change the master rule twice to limit it so other archetypes can actually be played
4:00 actually, theres still a reason to play the OG black luster ritual in a BLS deck, since it can be searched via pre-prep
But that would mean playing the vanilla OG ritual spells when you could play super soldier ritual or synthesis
I'm thinking of comboing that with Tenyi to support the OG BLS for being vanilla and turbo out the OG BEUD, maybe even access Dragon Master Knight with Dragon's Mirror.
@@autobotstarscream765 That doesn't sound like a bad idea, definitely worth a try. But I'd say Dragon Master is kinda stretching it a bit. Dragon's Mirror is bricky and unsearchable since it's technically not a "Fusion" card. If you just want a 3000 ATK non-effect monster, you can just use Tenyi Berserker? Not sure what OG BLS brings to the table.
@@TheJimmys11 Like OP said, using Pre-Prep in a BLS Deck (obviously none of this applies to Pure Tenyi which sounds like the direction you're going in, but Tenyi seems to tend to be splashed and hybrided rather than ran pure).
Oh reeeeaaalllyyt? What about Winged Guardian #2?
You attacked my face down Man-eater Bug! Now i proceed to die inside
This brings back great memories of running almost all 1800 monsters, Summoned Skull, Man-Eater Bug, all the nostalgia.
What about the opposite? Top 10 boss monsters that aged well? Maybe even multiple similar categories, like boss monsters that are still good but not boss monsters anymore, boss monsters that are still played but only to enable their support cards, maybe there are even boss monsters that got better over time.
I think the boss monster will become bad after some certain times except it is meta-relevant since cards are made broken in the future
Konami sometimes makes boss monsters that now get banned since it is too easy to be summoned and it is very hard to get rid
I think the only monster that aged well if exist is Number 86: Rhongomyniad
Back then it is very hard to spam monster to summon and have all the effect but many new cards make it to be banned in TCG since if you can't get rid/survite against it then you autolose
People of course will not like the boss monster if they against it since it has no fun in it anyway while that player who use it thinks that he can always win at almost all time
Let's just group together all Protagonist Ace monsters as a single entry, because those guys get a _ton_ of support.
Thousand-eyes restrict would definitely deserve to be on the list.
Gren Maju Da Eiza, absolutely.
This makes me realize how OP some cards were in that original yugioh show. Gives some scale.
This is just so nostalgic. Miss those days were I spend hours arranging my decks just so I can have a greater chance of beating my neighbour in a duel haha Now all I do is sit on front of computer and do excel shit all day.
Don Zaloog used to be a boss monster.
Now he's, "Thanks for helping me set up my graveyard haha"
Isn’t Summoned Skull immune to the Solemn cards? The Solemn brigade negates summons but Summoned Skull’s name implies that it is already summoned. Therefore your opponent cannot negate the summon of Summoned Skull with Solemn cards since it’s already technically summoned.
Yeah.... but no.
anime logic
GeneralVan Fucking Genius.
Yes, exactly
Pretty sure for rules like this it makes more sense to look at the original Japanese name. (Summoned Skull especially given it's history)
While the name does contain the term for summon the wiki translates it as Archfiend's Summoning which naturally you would be able to negate. I don't even know where to start with the Solemn brigade's Japanese text and terminology.
Hitotsu Me Giant had such a bad ass design! I miss the days when Yu Gi Oh cards had an overall darker edge to them!
To be fair, a lot of those were drawn by Kazuki Takahashi himself
If you ask me, it's pretty laughable that Hitotsu Me Giant used to be the best level 4 monster in the whole game
Burning Abyss archetype are literal demons from hell lol
@@matthewkuscienko4616 it wasn't, really. It was released in the same set as aqua madoor and Celtic guardian.
@@freakgoingunder I'm aware of that. I was talking about when the cards were originally released in Japan; you see, in Japan, they tend to have smaller sets released for any of the trading card games in that country, and back then, it was the strongest level 4 or lower monster available. You can actually see it talked about in more detail if you look at the video, "Top 10 boss monsters that aged badly" by the Duel Logs channel
Forgot about “Great Maju Garzett” which came out in 2003 and could easily be summoned with 3600 attack by tributing an 1800 ATK monster. In fact I saw GMG more than skull at my locals back then
I remember I started playing in kindergarten, and even though none of us truly knew all the rules and such at that age , what we did know was that the strongest card any kid in class has was Dark elf. Dude used to just sit on dark elf with a "reinforcements" trap waiting just so he could topple anybody lol
😢RIP My Childhood Deck with 3 first edition secret rare Gemini Elfs...
The hazy master, good to see you
They're still valuable as OGs and uncensored. 😎
@@autobotstarscream765 the OCG Ulti prints are $$$. The TCG prints, not so much.
"No one plays these vanilla boss monsters in their decks anymore"; except Duel Logs in Duel Links in his gimmick decks...
lol remember he used summoned skull with stormberg when streaming.
@Kunoros Hound of Athreos I love Tenyi...
Sunavalon loci is a normal monster
So nice to see La Jinn, Hitotsu-me and the other low level attack monsters mentioned, even if they are a joke now there was a time when having three of some of those cards in your deck was quite powerful. I feel like Twin-headed thunder dragon kind of fits as the classic turbo fusion but he was power crept so fast lol
12:29
- La Jinn was a Kaiba Starter Deck card, out at about the same time as the Legend of Blue Eyes set. So was Rogue Doll, actually.
- Mechanicalchaser was a duelist pack card that you got for playing in local tournaments. Don't know which one, just an early one.
- Gemini Elf was about 2 years later in Labyrinth of Nightmare. (It was the Secret Rare in that set)
The Gold Standard for level 4 monsters was La Jinn's 1800, which was pretty common by the time Gemini Elf came out.
Edit: OCG only, nevermind.
It's so bizarre seeing this having been out of the YGO loop for well over 10 years, Chaos Sorcerer was like a staple of almost everyone's deck back when I played
I love how weirdly specific these are getting
When talking about “summoned skull” I was surprised they didn’t mentioned about “frostersauras” 1 tribute ATK2600 could take it out too.
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Idea for a “Summoned Skull” Retrain that plays into how the original was used:
_Archfiend Summoned Skull_ (DARK)
Level 6
Fiend/Effect
_Monsters you control gain 1000 ATK. (Quick Effect) If a card you control would be sent to the GY: You can tribute 1 card from your hand or field; place that card on top of your deck instead. If this card is sent from the field to the GY: Add 1 monster 1500 or less DEF OR 1 Equip Spell to your hand from your deck, but it’s effects are negated for the rest of the turn. If “Archfiend Palabyrinth” or “Pandemonium” are on the field, this card gains the following effects:_
⚪️You can normal summon/set this card without tributes during either players turn.
⚪️You can tribute 1 card from your hand or field: Add this card to your hand from your deck or GY.
_You can use each effect of “Archfiend Summoned Skull” once per turn._
ATK/2500 DEF/1200
Blue-eyes, Red-Eyes, and Dark Magician all have a lot of support. Summoned Skull should get more support as well.
agreed. big lad deserves it.
Skull is an archfiend, he's got plenty in that regard.
12:00 that also explains why there was SO MANY level-5, sometimes even level-6 with useless stats. Like Nekogal, Battle Steer...
Dont forget Doma
I still believe Akihiron is the worst card in the game.
Shapesnatch the expensive but weak monster
Low level fusions like Flame Swordsman.
I never understood cards like peacock that were level 5 with like 1700 attack. Or Fusionist which was a vanilla 900 attacker fusion monster... like what? Who would bother putting in the effort to summon that?
It's like jumping in a time machine and landing in the future when you step out of Yu-Gi-Oh for a bit. Thankfully yugi's "every card has its weakness" quote always gets me through some of the most scariest cards I've ever seen
Yeah but nowadays that "weakness" is "ok, its only protected from 2 kinds of cards and battle, so it still has 1 type of card that works on it, so long it isn't a targeted effect."
This video made me go over my blue eyes build deck 😔 so nostalgic, I mean I still duel my siblings but very rarely since we are a lot older now
Top ten non-handtrap monsters with less than 1000 attack?
I will keep trying!
There's a huge number of great low attack monsters
*The Mole*
1. Kuriboh
2. Gravekeepers Watcher
3. Thunder Dragonmatrix
4. Maxx "C"
5. ... the rest
All the timelord
@@dlhf728 Kuriboh, Dragonmatrix and Maxx C are handtraps...
The number 2 is the biggest meme ever
I mean, I guess it's true for the OCG, though clearly it was different for the TCG (Skull Redbird)
Especially when Silver gang was actually better, lol.
You got to the point so fast that I had to double take. Great work 👏
Man all of these cards really do bring back some good memories. Years ago, back when the game was simpler, I ran a REBD deck, always against my friends and the local card shop tourneys (had Summoned Skull in there for the Black Skull Dragon Combo). I absolutely loved this deck and all those games, but after GX and Synchro summoning was introduced...it kinda went down hill imo lmao
Do you realize you are comparing casual play back in the day to today's competitive play?
GX was fine. If you mean the xyz and union cards, even Seto Kiba used those. But yeah, synchro summons and those dark star cards changed the game and now even the games board has changed.😢
Barrel Dragon was extremely good in my deck back in the day. It beat over summoned skull and could snipe facedown monsters.
Great video! Would love to see more content about early Yu-Gi-Oh!
This makes me really nostalgic for the old times....gonna get my copy of Eternal Duelist soul out and play that again
Still a good game
I really like the subtlety of matching the background of the video to the background of the monster card. Very clever
Glad you like it! The editors have fun trying to match the backgrounds with the card arts background.
I mean, to be fair, Summoned Skull still has one very, VERY small niche: Red-Eyes decks sometimes run one copy of Summoned Skull in order to get out Archfiend Black Skull Dragon with materials from the deck using Red-Eyes Fusion, as it requires a level 6 archfiend normal monster as material, and Red-Eyes Archfiend of Lightning is only treated as a normal monster when on the field.
TheMike0088 Man, it really shows how incompetent/malicious Konami is, that they made a Red-Eyes version of Summoned Skull, that is ditched in favour of the old Summoned Skull, just because of the Summoning requirements for the Fusion that they made said Red-Eyes Archfiend for.
@@SakuraAvalon Oh its not ditched, at least I actually run both lol. Yes that was an incompetent move by Konami, but at least Red-Eyes Archfiend of Lightning is a really good gemini monster to make up for it.
Or just use Beast of Talwar.
Most people run dragoon now
11:36 that expains why yugi had silver fang and mammoth graveyard in his deck
Oh my gosh this was so informative and explains so much!
Every his backgrond effect of the video following the color/bg of the card... So good
thanks for making me feel old
I use Summoned Skull in my Red-Eyes deck, mostly for the fusion monster Archfiend Black Skull Dragon
I love the sarcasm when u were explaining airknights effect
This made me remember the fierce duels I had back in the day, facing my sisters Kaiba starter deck with my Joey starter deck. Good old times.
ARC-V teased a La Jinn archetype based on Fusion versions of itself. Would be awesome if Konami decided to release those cards and continued the trend by designing even more.
I wish that Summoned Skull would get some really sick support cards. He was one of Yugi's favorite cards in the first season and has such an awesome design! I would totally run a summoned skull deck if there was more to him.
I loved your WOW content, stopped playing the game, and years later pick up yu gi oh only to remember you have a yu gi oh channel
I’m impressed by your background effects
These cards are my childhood thanks you duellogs :D
Summoned Skull: "If I'm not in your opening hand, send for the Witch. She shall call me before her death knell finish. Then, idk, set a bloody wall monster as a sacrifice for me."
Now: "Huh... classic... but also trash now. See the NEW Summoned Skull!"
"......which is also trash btw, but regardless!"
One minor addition to the Chaos Card, Priority was a thing. So you could summon Emperor dragon, your opponent decides to activate Torrential Tribute, you declare priority activate effect and nuke everything still. Cards like BLS, CED, Chaos Sorcerer, Tribe Infecting were all much better because of priority, and why people thought that Bottomless trap hole was a bad card for so long.
I love how this video is a year old and it's just now poping up on my recommend
i remember in this old yu gi oh game called joey the passion he would have cyber tech alligator a 5 star monster with 2500 atk and 1600 def and it would be soooooo hard to beat over it. if it was out on the field you would just lose most of the time xd
Deco a monster that only requires one tribute with 2500 atk yeah pretty good at the time
Well I don't know what was available in that game but a Maha Vilo equipped with a spell card with at least 500 Atk boost or more easy answer
Carry on my Volcanic Doomfire,
There will be a day again,
When you set the opponent on fire
With the help of new support, that you attain...
Day 375 of waiting for New Volcanic Support to arrive
Hi
The unlimit on solemn judgement was kind of a buff to volcanics, somewhat
Volcanic hearts: 375/2 days
Wouldn't you prefer a Doomfire retrain instead?
Your profile pic is so fitting.
I dono what you are talking about, from lob, 1 raigeki 1 dark hole, 3 fissure was like standard, along with 3 trap hole, and 3 man eater bug, so basically even trying to summon summoned skull was a easy -1, and you only ever do it if you run over something else on the same turn as you do damage
I was really surprised to not see Jinzo on the list. Then I saw it explained after the video and it made sense
They should bring back my boi La Jinn and make an archetype for him. Really missed the opportunity to bank on his comeback when the new Aladdin movie came out
I would love to see a La Jinn retrain
Didn't the arab girl in Arc-v had a La jin archetype?
Robin Williams, the mystical genie of Aladdin.
Eww no. Originality is king, no baseless brown-nosing please. There's enough of that everywhere else, keep Yugioh out of that.
I summon my faithful servant!!!
I’d love to see archetype support that experiments with giving old power crept cards new viability by searching them consistently, giving them extra effects through new cards etc
Like a field spell that searches, recycles and also gives effects to la jinn while on the field
Summon skull also had an huge advantage: under 1500 defence,
which means: it can be searched out with that forest witch! It was my favorite combo when I played this game(stopped in 2005, but even than only player with friends and mostly only starter decks): getting skull fast, tribute one and than win unless they manage to destroy with a spell or effect, or have the blue eyes
I remember using Chaos Sorcerer in my OG Yugioh Deck which used Chaos Necromancer and Great Maju Garzett as boss monsters. Ah those were the days lol
Skull Lair & Soul Absorption
I still remember when i first got my hands on my cyber dragon. Still one of favourites alongside change of heart.
Was waiting to see if morphing jar #2 would be here, I remember seeing that card everywhere! Was such a pain in the...
The effort to have an animated background that matches the card art background is appreciated.
I remember a long time ago bringing a Dark Gia deck to a tournament, but none of the players or the judges could understand how Monster Gate and Reasoning worked and ruled against me the whole time.
Seriously? That’s stupid
Thosr judges were a bunch of talentless circlejerks.
Kinda wish we could get a Yugioh game that is like the old style, no erratas, no bullshit like Links or XYZs or Synchros, just the old formats from even before GX.
Could always get a gameboy advance emulator and play yugioh games of that era. World wide edition and duel masters 2006 were pretty decent.
Get a Gameboy then
Misread the part about GX, forget duel masters 2006, it's GX era.
then you want ygopro where you can choose what master rule you want just play with your friends not many are willing to go to the old days of yugioh
What about the 3 “Power of Chaos” cd-roms. In the Yugi and Kaiba version, there is no ban list, and in the Joey version, you can choose to play with or without the then current ban list.
Love summoned skull, I like the design, attack and its fusion. Always ran it back in the day.
Ahhhh the good old days..... Haven't played in a decade or so, but this came up on my recommended so here I am.....
I still use summon skull. I have a deck revolving around summon skull and red eyes. Traps, magics, effects, the works. I've even beaten some competitive players with this deck. The thing is, most competitive players say certain cards are useless now with better versions that come out, but forget to realize that even a beat stick with no effect can still take control of a duel or even change the tide. They also get so caught up with the new wave of things that they forget how to use the old ones or even improve them with new cards. I don't play competitively, and I know being able to beat a few competitive players doesn't mean I could beat all or most. I know if I were to go in with this deck, someone would humiliate me. But, I also know there will be some who get humiliated by me playing these cards. My skull deck isn't even close to my blue eyes or dark deck, but at least it has proven to be good enough to beat some of today's competitive decks while playing for fun at home. Now if I wanted, I could play competitively with one of my other two, which also have some "useless", "broken" or "out dated" cards that can still beat other competitive players and remind them how good they still are. Hearing about cards that don't see play anymore for whatever reason, I started making decks with these cards to try and prove they are still as good as they were. Even cards that never really saw play to begin with, like invader of darkness. Who happens to be one of my favorites. When I got my first invader, no one I played really knew how good his effect really was, until they couldn't use a lot of cards they didn't realize they relie on. In combination with other monsters I had, he was the souls my deck. In tag duels in and around the neighborhood and small competitions my cousin and I would go to... next to his jinzo, there was no way around it. Mind you, this is still pretty much beat stick era. Even with the newer metas, invader still proves to be one of the greatest cards I use. But people still consider him out dated and useless. My point being, just because there are new better versions, different playing metas or whatever, doesn't mean every card has lost value in a deck. It's making the deck to fit the card, weather to revolve around it or just to use it. Even weak old boss cards can have place and still win you a competitive duel. It's all on how you make the deck
That's the spirit! 😎👍
Invader of Darkness is a Side Deck/meta call imho, he can rip certain Decks in half if he hits the field before they can make their plays (for example, pretty sure he locks out summoning Dank Law).
And the same goes the other way around - a bunch of stuff that's considered broken today were seen as "useless" when they first came out and people were derided for even thinking about using them.
People laughed at me for using Solemn Judgment way back then because, to everyone else, paying half your LP for any reason was "too much" and "stupid" to do (clearly ignoring how it could negate almost anything sans monster effects in general, but I had Divine Wrath for that, another card people saw as useless because it was "just a -1" due to the discard cost), but I royally messed up people's Chaos Emperor Dragon Decks by negating its Summon and since people didn't use Monster Reincarnation and such, they were left with nothing but a now-pointless Yata-Garasu and a Deck that was basically just a mish-mash of various LIGHT and DARK monsters, but no way to really pull off a big win.
@@HalfDemonInuyasha That's how you win, discovering the true power of cards everyone else overlooked. 👍
@@autobotstarscream765
Heck, people didn't think much about the Monarchs when they were coming out until someone won a tournament with them using Soul Exchange.
Magical Scientist wasn't immediately broken to people until people actually experimented with him and eventually discovered the Scientist FTK with him and Catapult Turtle.
It just goes to show that you shouldn't write off stuff just because it may not have any obvious "broken" applications.
Your comment is exactly why I built my dark magician deck the way I did.
actually, I use 2 copies of summoned skull in my archfiend deck. It's a beat stick without the negatives that normally come from archfiend monsters. I also used to run it in a pendulum deck that never really had a name, it was just a bunch of normal monsters with high attack and then cards like skill drain. I think I just made it for lols but it did ok.
La Jinn is basically the first noble knights deck...
Man. Trip down memory lane. Lol. This the first time I’m hearing of link cards? Crazy
The Summoned Skull segment actually made me sad