The Downfall Of Heirlooms
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Universal heirlooms are definitely a flop for me, the whole point of heirlooms are how they fit the character and have a whole bunch of personality.
Yup
This is the same reason people hated the Ash heirloom cause it didn't really seem to fit. I really hope this event flops so respawn get their ass in gear and stop trying to squeeze every penny out of players, both the buster sword and this heirloom have like 3 animations which is pretty lazy considering the price
I watch a lot of peoples live on TikTok, and every time I see them with it and ask them if they paid for it I Unfollow, or either block them
Doing gods work out here
@jemarshaw4986 tik tok? Ewwww
the fact they cancelled making a newcastle heirloom for that shitty universal artifact made me kinda upset
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As a newcastle main this made me extremely mad.
There’s no fucking way. I can’t believe mad Maggie isn’t gonna get her heirloom. It has me suicidal rn
Do it rn
@nomarknemesis1147 thats crazy
@@nomarknemesis1147💀
If you are playing mad Maggie, it is extremely more advantageous for you to be running around with your shotgun anyways. But I get your sentiment. Keep hoping bro, they might still do it.
Yeah keep hoping bro
Next I hope for the downfall of EA
Good luck, the streamers/whales would disagree with you as they continue to buy these scummy practices.
@@jmorales6539glad to see more people vocally blaming streamers for buying out events since they have a lot more sway on how an event goes then they think
let them buy it as much as they want so they can "hopefully" use the money they earn to operate on server and fix/improve the game "hopefully2"
@@jmorales6539exactly so many videos of the same topic “I bought the heirloom so you didn’t have too” but theirs literally millions of the same video :/
Then no more Apex
I was ignorant to think universal heirlooms would be rare and tied into a cool cross-over, like Final Fantasy was, I got the Buster Sword to tide me over until Vantage gets her personal heirloom. Now I’m realizing that the game will probably die before the circle back to that. So disappointed…
I rly think they should've kept these universal for colabs or do one of these for every anniversary event..But they want to over do this..5..5 more of these they want to add in a row.. Who's gonna buy them?.. What's the point?..Oh u can customize them..But it's worth 600$ to change a god damn color when recolors are 160$ or less and u can get 2 heirlooms+ banner,pose,voiceline, finsiher or emote.. Literally u spend 4 times the price and lose 4 items..
And i'm soo mad cuz Newcastle heirloom was talked about, then the Ballistic skin popped up in the museum holding a very detailed cane..All these just for them to add these complete Gamble events?..BRUH..
I am not mad at u..I get the FF7 sword..It was the first of his kind, it was a colab..Ur good from me..But this new shit is literally worse than any legend based heirloom..
“Would you quit apex for 2 months for free shards”
Ahem
YES
"ahem" also yes.
Imgine saying no
bro i already do this like twice a year this is nothing
Broski I quit
I'd quit apex for free lol
Looking back it just makes me sad the community as a whole didn't fight back harder even after the first event because no other F2P game seems to make you pay over 200 bucks an event potentially just to collect everything. It's such a scam
I've been playing Warframe. The equivalent to a collection event is a prime resurgence. $200 for everything in the event, but also you can get everything for free.
@@skylershuman7705Do NOT compare Warframe to Apex..U can get everything for free if u farm..Even the in game currency aka silver u can get by selling parts of primes..I have a friend that grinded everything and has many characters fully costumized all for Free..In Apex u can't even get 1 AC for free..
@@skylershuman7705ngl warfame isn't a very good comparison since you either need to fork over the cash or slave away for a week straight. You just trade money for a higher cost in time
As a community we need to do better in standing up against respawn. Get your favorite content creators to stop buying out events for bland videos and get your friends to stop buying skins when they first come out.
@@mechaflood2247 It also doesn't help that you're rarely if ever left feeling forced to pay for things, there not being any other method of acquisition, or not being able to buy things directly when you have to pay in Warframe.
These aren't really problems the average player would face in that game since the most sound solution would be to just _Grind_ lol
The real fomo for me is missing out on Operation Events since those actually never come back lol.
New Players: I got red shards
Og Players: ***sad***
I felt this
Playing apex since s1 and hearing my friends get shards a week after playing while i dreaded through years counting the packs i needed left to get that 500 pack limit
@@hbshadow8981 yup, not to mention all the time spent at max level before they raised the cap earning nothing but red coins
Fr played since s0 when the game just released and I got only one heirloom ( I think that im close to the second one ) but u have friend that started late but already have 4 5 heirloom.. Sadge
@@legouloog8451 swear og accounts are bugged, im on the same boat but havent played apex in awhile now
Players since S1 should get the 1st ever released Heirloom for free imo
I kinda blame the community itself for not realizing it sooner it would’ve been bad
You also have to blame all the streamers and content creators for buying out the events every time they came out
Hey i get people that bought FF7 sword..It was first of his kind, it was a colab and it was FOMO..But this new one is pure trash.. Nothing is amazing in any aspect..Looks Ok, Has no good animations and clearly has no personality cuz it's universal..
They’re gonna have to give me back my 5 years worth of ranked badges before I redownload this game
You have to be one hell of a stupid tit if you really believed they would not fix that glitch
The video shuold be called "Respawn fucks up several times in a row"
They basically stopped at the season 11 character ash it’s so sad seeing the game go down this path they’re literally telling us that they don’t care about the game. They only want to make as much money as they can with universal heirlooms.
Agreed
Tbh as much as I love her, her heirloom is the one that doesn't have ANY story to it. And since they are doing this bullshit with an heirloom NO ONE WANTS I don't think we'll be getting any recolors for her or anyone else until then.
@@jeannecutiej6067No there is lore to the heirloom but it's related to the Ashley side of her and her relationship with Horizons Son or whatever.
So it's got nothing to do with her past as a simulacrum, which is a missed opportunity smh
@@Atmos_Glitch okay thank you for clarifying so it makes more sense that it's more of a sentimental heirloom
People are buying them though that’s why they made the change. Blame the garbage player base
This is just bullshit.. Basically Heirloom shards are useless for a part of the community, that will grow overtime..So don't say "Oh only the low picked legends won't get one" cuz even the future legends won't get one..In other words..Respawn can release a banger of legend that has 3rd highest pickrate but it will never get his/her legend based heirloom and that will be fucked up..Universal Heirlooms or Artifacts are ok if they where the free version and u can spend money to costumize them like a pre legend heirloom thingy but not smth to overcome/overshadow the legend based heirloom bc cmon now u can't say the big sword and this Katar are better than many legend based heirlooms bc both of us know ur lying..🤷
Especially since most people are playing Conduit, Catalyst, and Maggie
I don't understand how they fail to realize how much more money they'd make if they made heirlooms more affordable for the playerbase. If it's less expensive then more people would want to buy it, it'd generate more trust/respect from players, and that would generate much more money in the long term. But no, they chase the short term financial gain and lose out on both player respect AND money.
That's what being blinded by greed does to these companies. It makes them oblivious to the better solution because all they understand is "Higher number is better!"
I've always thought about this. Why charge so much and sell so little when you can make it affordable and sell 3x as much.
The problem is that for every 3 people that say they would buy, not guarantee, that they'd get a 50$ heirloom, there is somebody okay paying 150 or 300 for these. So as long as they are making a killing, it won't matter. And unfortunately voting with our wallets does NOTHING. All they see is "oh this type of item didn't work let's try a different heirloom type instead". On top of that, the allure of them helps sales. If they were cheaper and easier to get, people would not spend as much on packs
@@chriselkins6771 If there are two groups of 100 people with an heirloom in Group A priced at $160 and an heirloom in Group B priced at $60, which group would generate more money?
In Group A, I can estimate that out of the 100 people only 10-15 people would rationalize buying the heirloom at $160. That would come out to a revenue of $1600-$2400.
However in Group B, I can estimate that out of the 100 people there'd be at least 40-50 people who would rationalize buying the heirloom at $60. That would come out to a revenue of $2400-$3000.
Making something more accessible to the average consumer means that more players will be able to afford it and more revenue will be generated in turn. Not only that, but you'll ALSO have many players who can now purchase multiple heirlooms rather than just the one heirloom for their main legend of choice. It has a compounding effect on the amount of people buying them and the amount of revenue being generated.
THIS IS EXACTLY MY POINT when I say that greed can blind you to better alternatives. When you're so focused on big dollar signs and making as much money as possible in the short term you miss out on making even more money in the long term by simply being more generous to the average consumer.
Because heirlooms are meant for the whales and not the average player.
Sadly the marketing team of every company is always the most developed department, they know what they are doing. In simple terms people tend to not care about the price AFTER they decided that they will buy it; in other words the hardest part in selling something is making the customer want not the thing, but want to BUY the thing after that the price doesn’t matter as much. So selling something at a third of the price is only a risk for the company as even if just one out of three customers is fine buying is at triple the price (and that happens because of what I said before) is not worth lowering the price
Recolors of heirloom are worth less instead of release new recolors they just had to make em level up to new color just like prestige skins
Not gonna happen, as soon as 1 person bought the wraith recolour they knew they could get away with it
i've played almost every day since season 4 and I have one heirloom. every battle pass, every collection event, at least 100 dollars on packs....and I still have just one. lmao
Hey its better then been playing ever since season 2 and not having one, it's honestly annoying
I got one and spent it on pathy. Just for his hit box to be severely nerfed and making him a" if you get a knock your probably going down too" legend. My friend has three somehow. I got 7k games played how??? Also I got mine literally 490 ish. Insane
Same hwre, recently got one heirloom. Although I haven't been active every season like you have. Went back and forth to warzone and back
@blankshadow2050 most people that haven't played as long saying they have multiple have bought tons of packs and just don't want to admit it. Have a friend like that, he has 3 or 4 and said he only spent 20 dollars a couple times on the big pack bundle sales. Months later finally got him to admit he spent hundreds 😂
First on level 220, second on Level 860. Bought maybe 3-4 times 20 pack bundles. Played not all seasons.
I really doubt that legend heirlooms will stop. They're releasing new legends at a much slower pace, so they'll eventually catch up to where every legend gets an heirloom weapon + skin... they are probably just trying to spread out the time a bit with the universal heirloom and upgrades.
That's what I've been saying
but complaining about literally everything is so fun :((((
Funny how one of the last actual good heirlooms had “Hope Lives” on it and then they started to get worse.LIES
As a Crypto main, I would've considered getting the heirloom just for the finisher, if the finisher was better.
Default finisher: Asset Procurement - He grabs a USB like thing from the downed fellow, which has information which Crypto wants, he takes it, and then he's gone.
The legendary finisher: Grab the downed fellow, have his drone scan the fellow for all their worth, while he's looking around to make sure no one's sneaking up on him, knocks him out and leaves.
"Heirloom" finisher: "Heirloom - A memento of legacy" - Grab a blade that's fractured into pieces, assemble it, start "floating"/"jumping" while t-pose horizonal slash them (WHILE SPINNING MIND YOU). - It has nothing related to Crypto except the blade.
The previous 2 finishers where all to "gather information" and just "knock out" - the "heirloom" finisher is not there for information, Crypto knows you're guilty, and he's there for the kill. But what does he do? An unassembled blade, slow kill, ineffective kill, no urgency or desperation from a fugitive, no caution, no rage against his assailant - just an expressionless ineffective kill. It just felt so disappointing.
Bloodhound at least used technology, that which went against their principles from their youth, and combined new ways and the old ways of the hunter.
Bangalore had an intimidating presence with brutal "Going in for the kill" with effortless execution, worthy of that of a soldier.
Caustic with the unholy abomination of poison corroding flesh and bone to a mere sludge, fitting for toxic trapper.
Valkyrie bringing a storm of blades to skewer the down foe with impunity. (Fitting if you know Valkyrie from nordic mythology, since they were battlemaidens (although this may be me missremembering popfiction and mythology)
Revenant grabbing your soul and pulling it into his shadow realm. (Hella metal, if I was revenant main I'd get it for sure, shame I'm Crypto all the way)
Loba finally getting some actual claws fitting for her, (although imo disappointing), she stabs the foes up close and personal and makes them disintegrate. She really robbed them of everything they had.
Meanwhile Crypto: Wonky horizontal spin slash attack while floating/jumping.
Of course it's a little bit unfair to compare 15 mythic skins to merely 1 finisher, but it's only mythic finishers that I can compare with
Womp womp
I feel you. It has nothing to do with him. Still, it’s better than what the writers came up with for caustics heirloom and mythic skin 😂 they don’t fix him at all! He’s not a narcissist/joker knock off so why would he have a hammer with his own face on it? And vomitting on someone??? lol seriously???
I hate how INCONSISTENT apex is
If they want to add things, they shouldn't complete cancel or leave unfinished other things (like the heirlooms for characters that do not have one yet, how some prestige skins and heirlooms have certain features that the others do not have, making some of them look like they have less value)
Lol there's only one type of consistency that matters to then and that ain't it champ.
Spending money over virtual shards to unlock virtual skins in a game is such a dystopic idea. And thanls to EA, it's real. Not leaving anytime soon.
Idk people with disposable income spend it on dumb shit. Its been that way for ages.
U know what’s worse then spending money to unlock virtual skins in a game, spending money to unlock virtual skins u cnt even actively see in game, character skins are ironically the most useless cosmetic
@bitedownpetey8954 You customise characters for others to see, not yourself
@@torakka2ow640 thts what makes it disposable, buying virtual skins solely for someone else to see is even worse
@@bitedownpetey8954 Why are you complaining? You don't have to buy cosmetics if you don't want to. People spend their money on much more stupid shit like gambling or twitch subs or OF subscriptions
Im a day one/season 0 player and still to this day, i dont have an heirloom for any legend whatsoever
I haven't played the games in months, I never payed attention to the new updates to the game so when cross progression happened, I got all my heirlooms but I had duplicate heirlooms so I lost that money and I also lost 80,000 kills because I logged into my pc account not my PlayStation account. That killed my motivation for the game and I haven't touched it since. I got burned by Respawn and now I don't buy in game items or skins anymore.
i have stop getting mythic melee weapons ever since they introduced character mythics
I just got heirlooms shards yesterday and got so excited cause I was thinking I’ll save em up to get blood hounds recolour… but we all know that’s not happening so I just ended up getting wraiths, now I got 3 🎉 but uni heirlooms are whack af tbh
The smartest thing they could do is drop all the remaining legends heirlooms at once, and release new legends with their looms, and just do periodic collection events for shards.
100%
as someone who has only recently picked up the game after dropping it in season 4. the current state of heirlooms baffles me. there's so many and it feels less like a fun side thing to get rarely and more like a way to show you spend tons of money
I played Season 1, 2 and 3 and the most crazy thing you can have back then were the Wraith Knifes.
Now I came back to Season 20 and it feels nothing special any more tbh.
Heirlooms should STAY unique to the characters.
Its a way to reward people who were character loyalists.
Wait is the cobolt thing limited aswell?
Will we still be able to get heirloom shards and spend them on previous heirlooms and prestige skins though????
4:25 I deadass had to rewind to make sure I heard that right
Is it possible that after the problem in season 8, I can't no more get ready for the game and I always have to go to the main menu?
Wish I could refund my Wraith heirloom for another one, got it back when it was the only one :(
Bruh wraith heirloom is goated. One of the best ones.
@@Ms-xq6jx It's nice, just don't like playing wraith
Literally everyone with the thematic events "Wow these are actually great! They should do them more often!"
Respawn: "They loved it! Scrap that shit!"
So, if I get the cobalt katar in an event pack, is my heirloom bad luck protection reset to 0 ?
I bought the anniversary heirloom shards that first year it was added, and I’ve pulled heirlooms shards twice since then
it went wrong when they started releasing recolors of heirlooms after the community said no more recolors in event skin.... i knew it was over when i saw people with the wraith recolor heirloom. they could've just updated animations and colors for free, but here we are at deathbox skins.
I am surprised you didn't mention the peacekeeper recoulour from that collection
I genuinely to this day believe that heirlooms didnt only not fit the character but didnt feel that much valuable after they released the third heirloom like with the first and second that is wraith which was there since even before season 1 and blood hound they were so good and detailed that felt like it has to be with that said character but what really made people realize the downfall is after the purchasable heirloom that can be equipped with every legend the coblat knife and that giant Guts sword
Punctuation exists. Use it.
What mostly bugs me is i have wraiths recolour kunai and prestige, but they don't seem to want to give the older mythic items love, i just want the dive and to swap out the emote for a finisher. sadly this wont happen
the PK recolor was the most egregious heirloom for sure
i got heirloom shards for the first time yesterday and i accidentally bought the wrong heirloom. don’t ask me how💀
can’t stop hyper focusing on the PvZ music
people could not resist the buster sword which sadly makes sense. this dagger though is trash and hopefully its as bad as the pk mythic skin
They want to release 5 more of these..Yea the same base model, same animations but different colors and some little things different FOR THE SAME PRICE..Yea Recolors are Recolors these will be Recolors+ 😂
I really hope this is a wake up call and I think its working cause I've only seen 1 person with the new deathbox whereas I saw loads of the ff event boxes
@@mechaflood2247i see a few every single match
The thing that put me off heirlooms was the fact that I had opened upwards of 300 packs from just levelling up, never spent a penny on packs. Not a single heirloom in sight, my friend spent money on 100 packs and got 2, I refuse to believe that paid packs dont have increased heirloom odds, all I ever wanted was Caustics hammer and I never got it, now I dont even have the game installed because I stopped caring
Since they added classes I feel like they could add class specific heirlooms if they wanted to keep doing the universal heirlooms but still it kinda sucks
Most of the history of heirlooms exists before EA bought out respawn. Now all we get are overpriced universal heirlooms. New Castle was going to get his heirloom next but they trashed the work
THE PLANT VS ZOMBIES SONG
Make a video to of that they still didn released the new bloodhound heirloom anitmations i want them to know.
I have that stupid axe, it forced me to get it via loot box prior to heirloom shards.
in season 8 i lost heirloom shards for no reason, but i think it was because of the crash. ( i had 150 before they gave everybody free shards)
I’ve only bought 2 of the heirlooms I own out of 6 total, the rest, randomly from 500 loot box openings and random shard drops, I’m really lucky compared to most people I play with but I’ve invested hundreds in cosmetics and I’m pretty selective to what I spend my money on in game purchases nowadays, EA already got too much of my money over the years, I haven’t spent any real money on Apex for well over a year and it’s gonna continue on this trend
They can do whatever they want with cosmetics. Character heirlooms are great, but the target market is limited. Universal heirlooms are for everyone and if you dont want do do the collection events that are fine too since they are rng and expensive. the new materials for them seem cool since now you can get them along with the reactive skins using the currancy, but we dont know how much that will cost. I think they format the seasonal challenges for the flatline is meant for engagement along with the battle pass with a plus of earning the skins for a heavy discount to being free though playing. We are able to play the game for free. if you cant afford it then thats tough. Riot has been doing more stuff for the whales to make them feel more separated from the free to play/ small spenders. they had a 500 dollar jhin recolor you got from grab bags similar to how this current event is going.
So what happened to those skins that would change the legends character select screen animation?? I think that detective pathfinder skin is so rad why Don't they do that for all prestige skins?
Wait I just realized that after I bought out the s8 collection event with the heirloom shards it reset my pack count and I got more heirloom shards 17 packs later😭
Wait so are dive trails still out of the game??
how did you not mention that we still dont have the caustic door smash animation
I remember buying the pathfinder heriloom back in season 3 ah good times
Im still waiting the updated the old prestige skins with sky dives trails 😢
I’ve been dreading this moment. This really pisses me off because they made an octane heirloom recolor a few weeks ago when they could have released another characters heirloom like mad Maggie or Newcastle. Really pisses me off how lame respawn and ea are.
These events are never going to stop. Too many people bought into the FFVII one.
I stopped playing during one of the christmas train events because I couldn’t get into apex for months and never knew I could get free heirlooms
As someone who bought out the Secret Society event in a moment of weakness... Yeah I have serious regrets.
sadest thing still no compensation for the reset server bug and also wraith skin quest still 0/6 first 3 missing until now
first step south was, prestige skins and removal of rank trials.
Random heirloom shards in apex packs is one of the best things in the game. I got mine around season 9 I think. But it’s really crap I have played since week 1 and have only gotten 1 random heirloom. Are people still getting them? Every 500 apex packs like it was originally? It’s too late now but I wish they would have heirloom grants based on number of kills or wins with a legend. Even if you had to pay a reasonable price to access it lol no way that would happen.
Been playing this game since 2020 and yet no heirloom
I have over a 1000hours on this game yet no heirloom
Apex just doesn’t award the grind
Reason I even moved to Warzone cause of they award the grind
i really wanted the latest Maggie skin and unluckily even after 100 bucks i couldnt get so i stopped before i went too far
they just need to make simple weapons and have them A LOT cheaper. like if they had a cool katana or something, i'm sure people would buy it and use it. and then it doesn't take anything away from the heirlooms
if they stop legend specfic heirlooms there would be literal riots
Kinda irritating how many mythics are released and how many there currently are without increasing the drop rate. Even just a little increase.
Every legend deserves an own unique heirloom
I still dont get why first 4 prestige skins have no dive trail added on them yet. They are not cheeper, why do they offer less
i was in the second to last wave of people to get their accounts back in season 8, i got nothing, and my friend who got his account back literally 2 days later got the rewards -_- still feel a little cheated about that
Can we also talk about the fact that they give us trail (when we jump at the start). And then they remove our trail like that for buisness reason ? I feel like it's so unfair to just remove something to your players like that
Its very bad for wraith recolor heirloom dont have finisher😢 and have a old prestige skins without a sky dive trail , i think its unfair
heirlooms fucking suck in general because you're either doing an ungodly amount of grinding for what is essentially some cool idle and melee animations or you're paying a metric tone of money.
I remember the days of wanting the wraith heirloom and winning the Pathfinder heirloom 😢
1:19 i swear i had this pk skin (nad loads of other stuff) but it suddenly got deleted from my account 😭
Plants Vs Zombies as the background music is perfect lmao
as good as the re-color is, it started going downhill when wraith got it.
I used to buy every heirloom, no you couldn't give me the money to buy them... Used to be events every 4-5 months, now they're every other week
What about the pk skin
It all went wrong after Gaiden
Cuz you could craft everything from that event
I was technically over level 1000 before prestige was a thing now I'm about to prestige again and still don't have an heirloom. I very much question the certain amount of packs and you get one, if I'm not over 500 packs opened I'd be surprised
apparently u need to reach level 2500 or something to guarantee one
I was thinking the same thing the other day
Still waiting for Mad Maggie, Newcastle, Vantage, Catalyst, Ballistic and Conduit to get their heirlooms.
Original heirlooms are always gonna be alive for me
THE 3008 THEME IN THE BACKGROUND IS BEAUTIFUL💙💙
Bro is that plants vs zombies music in the background?
Thank God I got my heirloom shards in the free packs. And then like 20 packs later I got more shards. I was a day one player without an heirloom for like 14 seasons and getting them almost back to back kinda made up for it
Literally i don’t know why EA just doesn’t give everybody a free one time heirloom. It literally wouldn’t cost them anything considering all the money they’ve made ver the years. It would make up for all the server issues, event issues, shop issues, etc.
and I'd like to remind you, that EA DOES NOT CARE. I had issues with shards...I opened shards 2 times, right as server crashes happened. OK, I didn't get them - talk with support. Great. Back then there was live support and I kid you not, they escalated the issue both instances many many times. Turns out, server crash happened before they got recognised, buuuut it didn't stop there. Because the first time it bugged, it reset the counter. So I opened my first permanent heirloom that I still own on pack 700+ . So, now I have 1 instead of 3 :)
I played through all them and the only one I spent money on was the first anniversary event where it gave you shards at the end.
I still think the pricing is egregious but at least I was able to choose which heirloom I wanted. Skins were trash too. Typical Ea recolors
We about to pay for open supply bins soon.
Sad. I want the, Too much Witt heirloom...😢 Thanks Grrt
They don't want to put in the effort of an heirloom and a full event for characters with low pick rates, they won't get enough sales.
Got one after playing for since day one the lost my account in 2 months thx ea
*vibing to the pvz theme*