U by Moen smart shower review - 2 years later
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2020
- In this video, I review the U by Moen smart shower valve after 2 years of daily use in my master bathroom. I describe all the features and test if it can hold the temperature when a toilet flushes while you're in the shower.
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I plan on installing one of these as soon as we move into our new house! Great review, thank you
Thanks. Please use my link when you do. 👍🏻
I have my tiles, curved tub and curved shower door ready for my major remodel but have been real iffy when it comes to deciding on getting the u by moen or a regular shower faucet. I am now sold on the u by moen thanks to you. This was a great review. I know this valve is meant for a shower but I tend to be good at making things work the way I want them to work so I will be adding some extra solenoid valves to the water circuit to make it work for the tub, wall shower head, overhead shower head and sprayer via voice control. Thank you once more for your honest review, it was very very much appreciated.
I would love to see that when you’re done!
@moen should pay you for this review. Probably the best product demo ever.
Thanks. I make a few bucks if you buy it from Amazon with my link. But Moen didn’t pay me for the review and I didn’t get it for free.
@@handydadtv cool
Buying a 2 and 4 valve U in the next couple days. Thanks for confirming your love for the product after 2 years!
My pleasure! If you’re buying from Amazon, I’d appreciate if you would use my links. It helps support my channel with no extra cost to you.
Getting ready to do a custom shower and this video gave me.all the info I needed with a honest review. Thank you.
I have since moved and left it behind. Really miss it! You won’t regret it.
Thanks for posting this. We just finished rough in for ours and hadn't really found much for how people feel about them after having it for a while.
OMG it’s like the Tesla of showers! (And I drive a Tesla)
Great Video! A two year review with all the details is exactly what we needed. I'm doing an owner build of our dream home. Exactly what we were looking for! Thanks much!
I moved and the new house doesn’t have one… yet.
@@handydadtv the real problem is when it does so does the shower
Love your videos, they are well thought out and your voice and humor add to the end result !! This was a great review and I am installing one of these after viewing this.
Thanks 😊
Thanks for the update, Chris. I will be starting my bathroom remodel soon. After watching your original video on this, I said "I want that!" But I live by myself and I started to rethink if that is where I want to spend my money. I finally changed my mind to stay with the conventional shower valve. Now that I've seen your new review and the lower price, it's back in the consideration phase. Thanks for the update. I hope that you are enjoying your new home!
We really miss this valve and are already thinking about installing one in the new house. You get accustomed to modern conveniences!
The problem for me is I don’t have a dedicated shower. I have a bath tub / shower.
Doesn’t matter. It works the same.
You did a great job with the remodel. It looks beautiful. Currently renovating my master bath and I might just check that out. Thanks for the review!
I’ve moved since doing this video and we really miss the U by Moen in our shower. Considering adding one.
I am getting ready to build my "Barndominium". The 60 x 60 building is already up. Now starts the home inside the building. I have been watching this Moen Smart Shower for a few years and have decided that since my wife and I both want different temperature setting, this is the way to go! Thanks for the video.
I moved in July 2020 into a 3 year old house with a normal shower valve. It was hard going back. We miss it so much. I am seriously considering installing the U by Moen here.
In case you haven’t seen the installation: czcams.com/video/Q8GwBcQLS88/video.html
Thank you for this unsponsored, two-years on review. I'm happy to hear it still works and hasn't given you any trouble. I'm surprised more high-end homes (as seen on YT videos) don't include this feature.
I moved in 2020 and really miss this valve. Considering an upgrade for sure!
@@handydadtv I wouldn't recommend this to anyone the valve only last at max of 7 to 10 years. Then you have another giant outlay to replace it
How can you say that? Based on your experience? Has it been invented that long??
I can only speak from my experience. It was a great two years that I had that valve before I moved.
@@handydadtv based on my experience with their prior model and seeing numberous complaints about this one. The control will short out within a few months to a few years of the warranty expiring. Then you will be stuck with a very expensive replacement job and a dead shower.
I wish this video would’ve come out last week. I just bought one. I would have used your link. It’s been super easy to install and I’m glad for it. I also have the controls far from the head problem. Thank you for your video
It’s rare but if the display ever freezes up on you (happens maybe once a year), just press and hold the power button to reboot it.
I never even thought about hiding it behind the mirror! That's a great idea.
Thanks 😊
Fantastic review and great tile
Choice just ordered one for a luxury flip here in Denver
Thank you so much for doing a review after 2 years. This is why I haven’t bought it yet, cause I didn’t know if it will keep working or it will be a toy that will break in no time. I guess I will get it now
I’m planning to install one in my new house. This thing spoiled me.
@A I don’t understand. What stopped working? Your valve or shower head?
@A That’s not the same thing. Completely different. Please don’t leave a negative comment for an unrelated product.
No, I bought this with my own money. Hard water is a concern for every plumbing fixture.
I stayed at an ABNB in CA which neither of the two installations worked in. Very annoying. Cheers to those these work for!
They should have left you instructions to reboot it.
I actually saved money by choosing this valve control instead of the normal valves and the finishing trim that goes with them. I guess those parts would vary by the finish you might choose, but mine proved to be a savings. And I love the Smart/Remote Control.
Glad you like it 👍🏻
Very well done and I will be purchasing.
Thanks. Please use my affiliate links, if you don’t mind.
I have read some negative reviews but I suspect a large bit of the problem was due to improper installation. The fact that you were able to do this 2 years in really really helped me a lot. Will be placing my order next week along with all the other plumbing fixtures. We are almost two years after your review and just wondering if you still like it. Please tell me you do!
I did this review right before selling the house. We miss it SO much! I’m in a brand new house but I’ve been contemplating doing a retrofit to install this valve here. It’s definitely worth the money in my opinion.
I’m looking into this for my next shower remodel
We moved in 2020 and miss this thing every day.
Thanks for the review!!!
My pleasure
Nice video mate 👍👍👍
Thanks
No problem have a good day
Good morning mr. HANDYDAD. I have another question.. with the U by Moen, do you need a diverter valve with the delta body sprays or the U by moen valves eliminates the need for diverted valves?
The U acts as a temperature mixing valve AND a diverter. No need for anything else.
Thanks for the video. I ended up purchasing one (Home Depot, online, $697 before tax for 2 valve unit). However, I offer this protip. I had the predecessor to this unit the Moen I/O. And, after 9 years, the valve unit failed. Called Moen. Buy it for looks, buy it for life? Yeah, well, the life of the technology. Moen discontinued the I/O series and, guess what, stopped supporting it. No valve or parts available. Now, if I had followed the directions and just run the control wire through the studs, I'd be screwed at this point. However, I'm a son of an engineer (damaged goods for sure) and I thought ahead. I ran the control wire through conduit and left a fish rope in the conduit. Yeah.
So, I pulled a new wire for the U by Moen, had to re-do the plumbing, but got the thing in. Works. Whew.
Sharing this because this model surely will be replaced by something else and y'all will need to pull a new wire at some point.
That’s an excellent point!
Love this review, my wife is excited to get this now. have you found a way to change the icons on the controller? ie tub spout instead of body spray. I saw you could change them in the app on your phone, but don't know about the controller.
I moved and left that valve behind (miss it every day), but I don’t think there was a way to change the icons without the app.
I have just had this installed in my shower stall.
I am looking for some help with setting it up for user 1 & 2, as well as on my iPhone.
Just set the shower the way you like it then press and hold the user button until it saves the setting. Just press that button tomorrow and it’ll go back to those settings.
For the app, download it from the App Store and create an account. It will walk you through the process to connect your valve.
Which icons can you select from when configuring the outlet buttons? Is there one for a tub spout?
Yes, the icon options include a tub spout.
@@handydadtv thanks!
What size access panel would you suggest to access the valve and electrical? 14x29? Or is that too large?
That’s too big. Square should be okay.
Convincing video, thank you. I need a steady water temperature controller for my water distilling equipment. I would like to maintain temperature around 25 celsius or 77 F. Can this Moen Smart control do such? Thank you. It is now selling for 381 Canadian.
It’s for human comfort, not a precision instrument. It won’t shut off if the hot water falls below your set temperature; the output will just get cold. If you’re playing with that, it could work for you.
I see you can add up to 4 outputs. Can you control the temperature for the outlets separately? For example if you and your spouse shower together and we have two rain heads. Can one be my preferred temp and theirs be another?
No, they all output the same temperature.
Which brand of shower head and body jets you used HandyDad? Can I control rain shower, hand shower and body jets separately with 2 port U by Moen?
This video shows all the products and has links in the description:
czcams.com/video/a20VECjqfFQ/video.html
You would either need to use the hand sprayer as your primary shower head, or you need an additional diverter valve.
Definitely adding a smart shower
You won’t be disappointed
Great video MrHandy, thanks for the 2 years review but have you done filter replacement yet?? I too have mine for 2yr have not change filter and once in a while I have no power to unit, I have to unplug and plug again....recently screen gone black for second then pink then u by Moen reappear
Mine would flake out once or twice a year. The display would be unresponsive and the water wouldn’t turn on. I just press and hold the power button for 10-15 seconds for the unit to reboot. Then there’s no need to unplug the power.
@@handydadtv thank you for your answer and quick reply
Very helpful video - thanks. I’m starting a total $55K master bath remodel in 3 months (I have a very large bathroom). I want a smart shower, but the reviews are mixed. The MOEN appears to be the best of the bunch so if I do it, I will go with MOEN. My contractor has installed two of these and he knows what he is doing. He told me my hardware will need to be MOEN (is that correct)? If the system malfunctions, does this mean, you can’t turn on the shower?
Couple of thoughts...
$55k for a master bath? Wow that’s gonna be an awesome bathroom.
Your contractor is wrong. The valve was the only Moen fixture in my bathroom. The shower head and body sprays were Delta.
The system malfunctioned occasionally and the water wouldn’t turn on. Perhaps once a year. All you need to do is push and hold the power button on the keypad until it reboots (maybe 10-15 seconds). Then it’s fine for another year.
I love your marble tiles! Any chance you remember what size they are? You did an amazing job!
The wall tiles were 4x12, but I wouldn’t recommend Carrera marble. Get ceramic tiles that look like marble. Thank me later.
Natural marble is too hard to clean because you can’t use any products with bleach. It was hard to keep clean.
Great 👍 Video
Thanks so much 😊
I can't see any place where to adjust the water pressure.
Is that not an option, or it is it only 100% On or all Off?
If this is a wanted feature, will I then be forced to install a manual adjusted valve?
U By Moen and most single handle valves are just on/off with temperature control. Flow control is often on the shower head. If not, it can easily be added. Search Amazon for “water flow control valve shower”.
I am using one with Google home mini. I cannot get any voice commands to work other than turning it on and off. In your video, I see you got it to turn on the preset. What OS are you using? Also, kine will not completely shutoff sometimes, it will drip. I have to turn it on and off again, maybe twice. Have you had this problem?
I use Alexa and iOS. I never used Google Home.
I never had an issue with partial shutoff. Contact Moen support for that one.
So I can connect any shower head of any brand with Jets and use this Smart Control?
Yes
Thank you! Quick question what happened in power outage?can you turn on the water manually?
It has a battery backup option that I highly recommend. Otherwise the valve will shut off in the middle of a shower if the power goes out.
Thanks!
What happens during power outage?
Is there a way to manually turn on the shower?
There is no manual override, but I highly recommend the battery backup because it lets you use the shower during power outages.
Our shower has three knobs, two of them control the temperature and one of them selects if the water comes out of the shower instead of the tub filler. Would this valve work for us?
Yes absolutely. Get the two port model like mine.
Just bought the 4 outlet system, did you have any issues sweating the values onto the regulator? Seemed like a few amazon reviews mentioned issues.
I used Sharkbite fittings to connect Pex.
@@handydadtv ah got ya, I was thinking about pex then just bought all copper tonight at Home Depot. Appreciate the info!
You can still use Sharkbite to join to copper. Just that copper is less forgiving.
I’m new to home remodeling. If I buy this can it be installed in my normal bathroom tile or will it damage the wall and I would need to re-tile it?Do I need to have a plumber or electrician install this? Just trying to educate myself and see cost expectancy from someone who isn’t savvy with things like this.
If you are replacing an existing faucet, you’ll need to patch the tile.
I just bought one and can't wait until until my grout dries in my remodeled bathroom
I moved and really miss it!
What do you do when there is no power? Even a cold water shower in sunsets will be a problem. We live in calicos where Brown outs are common
The trick is shown in the installation video: czcams.com/video/Q8GwBcQLS88/video.html
We are installing this with battery backup. My husband is thinking we should still keep installed our manual on/off controls and diverter in case this fails so we can turn the shower on. Do you see a need for this?
Maybe, if that’s the only shower in your house. But if you have another one, I wouldn’t bother.
Definitely would install one. Would an average plumber have problems installing this?
I’m no plumber and I did it myself. Yeah I’d think a pro should be able to do it.
I'm remodeling my bathroom to have his & hers sides. 1 head and 1 hand held on each side of the shower. Will I need to 2 controllers or will 1 controller turn on both sides independently?
One controller will work. You can put both heads on simultaneously or independently. You could use the 4-port valve and have two on each side.
Be sure you run 3/4” supply lines to the valve so you have enough pressure for all those heads.
BTW, where’s the fun in separate showers? I mean, if you’re going to shower together, shower TOGETHER.
Plus it’s more tile to clean!
* My husband and I purchased our home about 6 months ago and remodeled the bathroom (among other rooms) and installed this system. We have 1 shower but separate shower heads as mine is MUCH shorter than his. Then we have body sprayers on the side wall and finally a rain shower head above. We used the 4-port valve and can use 1, 2, 3 or all of them at once or mix and match them depending our mood. Plus each of the 2 regular shower heads have a hand held just in case we need to reach a spot any of the other sprays didn’t catch 😆
Definitely worth it!
I am looking for a shower that can be set to turn off after a set amount of water use or time. I didn’t hear anything. Dies this device shut off shower?
I never used it, but I believe this has a time feature so your kids can’t take long showers.
Does you in app push notifications work? The push notifications have not been implemented and are not in the final customer released products as Moen stresses that they are. Moen said that it would be in future releases but have not release it as of Sept 2020. Keep in mind the product has been out a few years now with push notifications as a feature.
I never saw any push notifications.
@@handydadtv In the feature list Moen says that the system will send push notifications when your shower is ready. I have been discussing this with Moen for about 6 months now. They keep telling me that I'm the only one who's having this problem and they will be fixing in the next update, but there has not been an update for a while.
I moved so I can’t test it out. Sorry.
Do you have to use moen fixtures with it or can you use any brand ?
Any brand. I used a Kohler shower head and Delta body sprays.
Howdy! We are building a home and putting in the MOEN Shower 4-Outlet Digital Shower Controller in with a Regular wall shower head, a 16 inch rainhead, and 4 body sprays. Would this device be able to control all those water outlets? Or do I need an additional controller with valves?
That device has 4 outlets. Sounds like you’ll use 3 and cap the 4th. No additional valves needed.
@@handydadtv I forgot, we have a hand held as well, so we can use all 4 valves, then…correct? So all four body sprays can work off one valve?
@colonelshag Yes and yes!
@@handydadtv That is interesting because our Moen dealer said that each valve would only be able to have 2 body sprays per valve so we had to have a balanced pressure shower trim valve ordered to then have a manual handheld since the regular shower head will be on valve 1; the rain head would be on valve 2; and two body sprays would be on valve 3; and the remaining two body sprays would be on valve 4. Did you put all your 4 body sprays on a single valve? I only saw 3 sprays in your video, but you could have just been in the viewing line.
@colonelshag I disagree. I used 3 body sprays and I only had 1/2” supply lines with the 2-port valve. Plenty of pressure.
With the 4-port valve, you use 3/4” supply lines so you’ll have even more volume. I think you’ll be fine with four body sprays.
Watch this to see how I handled the pressure balancing loop. And the test!
czcams.com/video/Q8GwBcQLS88/video.html
Did you not have frequent crashes with the controller? Going on 2+ years and it crashes all the time. We have to reset the breaker all the time.
We also have 500mbs+ wifi throughout the house.
I moved from that house in 2020, but mine crashed infrequently. It became unresponsive maybe once every 3 months. I never needed to cycle power to reboot it though. I just held the power button for maybe 10 seconds until it rebooted.
What about speed?? Does it slows down or run faster when you want it too ??
There is no flow control. When it’s on, it’s open all the way. The flow will be determined by the shower head.
Hey mr handyman. I have a question. Do you have to have moen body sprays and shower heads or can I buy any kind of body spray and shower head to use with the moen valve
My heads are Delta.
@@handydadtv ok thank you. That was a relief. The moen rep told me I had to get they recessed body sprays. You're awesome and thx again for the insight
Recessed body sprays are harder to install and need to be removed to clean. No thanks.
@@handydadtv ok cool. Thx again for the advice. Now I can move forward with no worries 😁
I like having the handle to make tiny adjustments in temp during my shower so one preset temp would not really work for me. However, I want this system to fill my jetted tub and get it perfect every time.
My preset is perfect for most showers. But I can just push the arrows if I want it a little warmer or colder.
Does it have a speaker to stream music?
No.
I plan on getting this in 2 weeks with the aroma therapy shower head
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Have you had issues with the battery? Ours came with our home and we are seeing a red battery notification.
No never had a battery issue in the two years I owned it. (I moved and left it behind.)
How low does it go. I like my shower cold but not too cold. Preferably 55°F
60 is the lowest.
I've been told the water cools pretty substantially between the ceiling and the fall the tub. Is that true?
I had a rain shower in my other bathroom and my kids loved it. They never complained that it cooled too quickly.
I have a crazy notion to put one of these in an RV and during research I ran across your videos. Nice work! I didn't know about pressure balancing either and I like your solution of using what you had.
Now a question: can you tell me what the Moen AC wall-wart adapter output is? (Specs should be printed on the adapter.) If it's 12V DC (or less) I could probably get away without running this from an inverter. I assume that the battery backup is roughly 9V DC since there are six 1.5V batteries in it. Any help is much appreciated.
I moved so I can’t check the voltage for you. Sorry.
I had all those features except controlled from a smart phone in my 2016 remodelling. I’ve sold that house and I am looking for a super duper shower for 2022.
I’d buy this again. Loved it.
@@handydadtv because of that I will be looking into it. Thank you for the video.
The Mira Platinum hasn’t progressed since 2015/16. So I am also looking into the Rico smart shower.
Have you looked into the Nebia shower head?
If you mean Roca, I don’t know if they or Mira are available in the US. Moen and Kohler where the only two I investigated, and I went with Moen.
I haven’t tried the Nebia shower head.
Can you install this near the bathroom sink and have the knobs as well in the shower?
There are no knobs. You need the control to be accessible in the shower.
@@handydadtv understood. But could this control the shower and could you add knobs. With experience plumber? Not sure if you can have two controls per head.
I think the Kohler smart shower allows multiple control pads, but it’s much more expensive.
But I don’t see the need for multiple controls. If it’s inconvenient to push the button inside the shower, you can control it with voice or the app.
100% would turn that shower on after the new owners moved in lol
😂
They would shit themselves
HandyDadTV: "Was it worth it? Well let's start talking about the features first." Starts playing romantic 70s music.
Me: Oh OK!
I moved out of that house in 2020 and I miss that shower valve everyday. Will definitely buy again.
I prefer the kohler dtv plus because of its Spotify support and optional harman kardon speaker tiles
Do you have one? I don’t know anyone who has this, but I’m reading reviews and they aren’t great.
@@handydadtv It needs alot of work. The touch screen doesn't play well with water of course and the kohler konnect services are ran off Microsoft cloud services so when xbox live or office 365 servers goes down. your shower will glitches out and wont work at all. and the final part is that when i flush the toilet the temperatures falls from 102 to 89
@@mirelurk-fish7387 That all sounds terrible for showering, hopefully it plays music well.
@@SgtZima ah they released a firmware update to the dtv+ awhile ago and fixed all my issues
@@mirelurk-fish7387 Good to hear
Do you have to install one per shower in your home?
Yes one per shower. It replaces a regular shower valve.
It's been 4 more years... any update?
I moved in 2020, but we miss it everyday and will be getting another one at some point.
Bro just started my Alexa lmfaoooo
Oops sorry
You set off my echo at 1am
LOL
4:19 is where the red flags start going up. app control means that it uses a server somewhere on the internet, and that's what rubs me the wrong way, for several reasons.
Completely optional. No need to connect it to WiFi for it to work.
@@handydadtv i wouldn't use wifi anyway. for stationary equipment, ethernet is the way to go.
'Me: They are boiling alive.
Also me: they are not in the UK 😀
price has now gone way back up. $1170 just for the valve at Home Depot currently (May 2022)
Not surprised. Everything is more expensive this year.
Also, although the thing is cool, it’s worth mentioning that the screen is very low res (1990s tech) and the product does not appear to have improved at all in two+ years on the market. Eg, why can’t the screen show weather for the day, or scroll news headlines, or even use a customized family photo/album? Would be a simple innovation.
Have you seen the display on the Kohler smart shower? It’s LCD, no color. I’m sure they’ll update the U at some point, but it’s pretty great for a Version 1 product.
HandyDadTV yes I saw it at CES. There was a reason I chose Moen over Kohler but can’t remember what it was. Unrelated - Another cool feature I created was to plumb the fourth output from my Moen U to a separate tub filler so now I have an automatic Tub Filler. Ofc that meant I had to get the more expensive four output version.
Yes more money and it needs 3/4” supply lines.
He wants the lcd WiFi connection screen tht way he got something to watch while getting after it. Beating it like it owes him $$$ . Lmao I joke wit ya buddd.
Is that you, JerryRigEverything? lol
No that’s a different guy
@@handydadtv You both have pretty similar voice ⭐
What if the power went out?
Im not sure if you already discussed it in the video because I’m trying to get quick answers for a new bathroom. Sorry.
I bought the optional battery backup. It takes 8 D cells and keeps the shower operating during power outages.
HandyDadTV oh cool!
Saw this on Twitter and Cried In Laughter....... In My "Soup Natzi Voice On Seinfeld"... (No-Privacy-For-You).. Lol.! Clever & Bold AF.! I do actually kinda like it tho.. The Creativity is Dope. 👍😹
4:48 that s-trap illegal AF!
Not my photo; that was an example from Moen showing how it could be installed under a vanity.
Current bundle price $1,769.41.
You may be looking at the 4-outlet model. The 2-outlet bundle is $976 today on Amazon. They probably have low supply because of COVID and that drove the price up temporarily. But it’s still worth it in my opinion.
Why do you have Alexa neer steamy shower
To show you that it works.
I thot they get broken neer steamy water
It’s currently $300 on Amazon
That’s for the control panel. The valve is around $350.
$600 now? That’s a no brainer.
I really miss it.
I bought a home with this installed. It doesn't work or we no one, even an electrician is able to get it to function. Who supports this type of shower control?
Call Moen to help you troubleshoot.
Don’t give up on it, even if you need to replace something. It’s awesome!!
Just bought a house with one of these. Had the power off and now it will not power up.
Not impressed.
And yes the plug has power.
Push and hold the power button for 30 seconds. If that doesn’t work, call Moen support.
Trust me, you will love it when you get it working!
Shark Bite fittings?? Oh oh.
👍🏻
But you already move your house doesn't right ?
I recorded this right before I moved. It’s been on my to-do list. I want to put one in the new house at some point. I really miss it.
I see that , but your old House is wonderfull , by the way does in your new house installed CCTV ?
Not yet, it’s a gated community so security isn’t our first priority. Storage and organization is our first priority.
What ? A thousand dolars ?! No Way. I would prefer to use my sensor hands to set the temperature. Only two presets? i would wait more features… but….
It’s definitely a luxury item, but worth it IMO
Once again proving women like hotter showers then men! 😊
Truth 👆🏻
Handdad sorry
Hi, I like sharing my shower with my girlfriend but that is for a different purpose that I cannot go into on CZcams for two reasons, 1 it would be taken off because of content lays, and the other is that my girlfriend would definitely kill me. But I do like shower.
Two people can shower with this. You just need to compromise on the temperature. 😜
no lol
Why not?
My water not working ☠️
Oh no
"I paid with my own money" ... just be honest and say with subscriber/youtube money ;)
That’s like saying your employer bought your house.
And i dont think its safe or clever...washing takes five minutes...but whutever...
Thanks for your opinion.
Nice but not worth $1000
I moved in 2020 and this is the feature we miss the most. Contemplating buying one for this house too!
What shower pump would you recommend I buy, but one where the shower jets shoot water out really really hard?
I was very happy with these Delta Body Sprays: amzn.to/2vpWUhR
@@handydadtv I mean what kind of booster pump would I need?
@GG-ry9vp I’ve never seen any kind of booster pump on household plumbing.
Very nice they’re very nice❤❤😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍
Yes they are. I moved and really miss that valve.