I did not expect to have all my hiragana destroyed by an extremely nice Japanese lady today... But I'm already seeing a big improvement in my handwriting, so thank you! I'd love to see a similar video for katakana. Great job, guys 😊
I've been learning Japanese for just over a year now, and had no idea how necessary this video was for me. Way better than those videos that draw each kana one after another. This is how you fix mistakes
Indeed - and like any classroom, there's always that sacrificial kid on hand to provide an example of 'what not do' not to mention the entertainment value they bring! Aghh, who am I kidding, it was me - I was that kid...🤓
@@timecarpet It very much does. Look at a calligrapher writing with a brush pen and you'll see the logic behind stroke order and why some stop while others flick or taper. It's interesting if you like the writing system.
Exactly. And if you add that these come from simplified cursive kanji, you will start to see how each stroke flows into the next. The movement is somewhat continuous you are just lifting the brush at certain points. Honestly, I think it would be helpful to study Shoudo to really get good at writing Hiragana.
Now that you practiced letter by letter, I would like to see you writing in context, like some phrases, and having her to point out what would go better in the whole harmonization
Its easy to remember the stroke order for や when you realized that its a simplified cursive version of 也 (not a 常用 but is a component of characters like 地 and 池)
Basically you have to keep in mind the way the stroke moves to understand how they connect The い has that little curve in the bottom because you can go up and connect to the top of the next portion of it, similarly the き has a style were the bottom curve disconnects, this disconnection in some styles happen because they imitate how with a brush its easy to naturally disconnect. Regardless of style the important is to remember the stoke order and keep in mind that the order is not random, it's there because you need to move to the next part in a certain way, the stroke order is there to enforce the flow which helps your calligraphy and keep people from making things too weird.
Indeed. Stroke order homogenises the writing across multiple styles, and as a plus it's the easiest method of writing consistently. When I started practicing my writing speed it REALLY came in handy.
I think the different ways how each of you hold/grip the pen really makes a difference as well. A very insightful and interesting video overall. Thank you both!
Thanks a lot this was really helpful ! Looking forward to a Katakana version of this video ! Also, in addition, i'd love to see Yuki's "speedy" "unfocused" "regular" handwriting style !
So helpful, especially about the linking strokes ideas... also helps to understand reading native scribble hiragana which can be hard. I would love a Katakana one!
21:30 ehh wait minute! Horizontal line on け is actually going in downward direction.. mine was like Andy's one going in upward direction.. Thanks Yuki for this! It makes sense it to be downward as it'd make circle properly.. got it got it! Thanks!
Ahh, while doing the Genki workbook practices, I've just been winging how the hiragana, katakana, and kanji are supposed to look based on computer fonts. This video will be quite helpful to me going forward, thank ya!
For kana, you have exercises and demonstrations out the nose, including worksheets for practice. Even Wikipedia has a how-to-write for each kana, in both varieties. For kanji, I use Jisho. Their stroke-by-stroke demonstrations were such a huge help that my handwriting style is essentially those animations + natural human imprecision.
This was a really interesting! I am currently at language school and the first set of teachers with き、さ、ち were very big on making sure the loops were not connected. the next semester, I got marked wrong on all of those for not connecting them. So it is interesting to see this process and Yuki's criticism and tips!
@@Yotanido Interesting! My first group of teachers said either was fine, but the connected was the “old way” and the teacher that marked me for not connecting was older 🤔
Listening to Yuki is amazingly satisfying and soothing. This is one of my new favorite youtube videos. I thought I was decent with my hiragana, but now pay much more attention and have improved significantly. Thanks to both of you.
Thank you so much for this video Andy San and thank you to your wife, Yuki San! With this, I have a specific reference to my daily hiragana practice(I was having trouble between choosing textbook/font or calligraphy-esque and why some characters are shaped the way they do)! Looking forward to your katakana video next!
Hey started japanese like a week ago, and i gotta thank you a lot for this, it helped me so much while learning how to write the Hiragana the right way ! please do one for Katakana too please 🙏
Out of all hiragana, ふ was easily my biggest struggle and the one that required the most practice. My best description of mine is "a flame's outline surrounded by a rain of harpoons".
This video is awesome, I really enjoyed following along and the improvement is instant! I feel like the pacing for videos like this is difficult to keep the watcher's focus while also giving time to process the learning, this was perfect ^^
the cuts and sharper angles are pretty smart. it gives you more control. rounder strokes tend to get exaggerated and throws off the balance.. its perfect!!!
Yuki is such a good teacher, I like her positivity and encouragement. Listening to her talk is helping with my listening while also learning how to write my hiragana better.
What I'm noticing is that, most of the things she corrects, are the things apps and tutorials tend to teach, so basically, we've been taught wrong for years
former art major here. i have terrible english handwriting, but i LOVED learning hiragana/katakana and practiced it like crazy. it was too late for english for me but decided to try to make my kana at least legible. All i ever wanted was my japanese teacher to praise my writing :D:D
Hah, I can relate. My handwriting in the Latin alphabet is... legible. Perfectly legible. But that's about the best compliment I can give it. Meanwhile, I did dozens of sheets worth of kana exercises, literally _dozens,_ both from study worksheets and repetition practice in my notebook. And hey, I got my praises! Both teachers I've had so far praised my handwriting so highly that they got me fidgeting 😅 But the coolest part is, all that practice transferred over to kanji! Made getting used to writing them a very easy step, even complicated kanji in notebook lines' worth of space.
@@freidrichvonleibneifferdie3820 You might have seen that the westerner used variants that had different skeleton and parts of the letter which she didn't use (such as 'fully' connected hiragana ki). So it isn't just about the proportions or rounding of the letters. Or straights or curves. She consistently interpreted them as cute or especially cute, which might be because font-like characters are more rounded and wide than usual. The fonty vs actual handwriting distinction became very useful for them (see 23:14 for example), the purpose of my comment was to highlight the distinction they used and to show that westerners probably had the same learning path from fonts and not handwriting or things in a more calligraphic style. A calligraphic style usually refers to handwriting or effects from stress (angle from writing element), varying pressure and stroke thickness, or artifacts from a brush
If you just draw them as you see them in text, yes, as a foreigner you'll do that. It's an easy "trapping" to fall into. If you find stroke order demonstrations, though, it's just like a native learns.
Oh thank you! I really want to improve my handwriting. Also hoping you would do kanji handwriting exercise at some point because my kanji looks very childish and disproportionate some characters look like multiple characters when I write it because of how disconnected and disproportionate they are 😭
One thing I noticed by myself, after observing a lot of calligraphy... Japanese is written as if you were doing a single continuous line. Sometimes why you in the same line you take the penal get it off the paper keep on the line and get the thing down
Bullseye. 🎯 You just nailed why the writing is like it is: strokes form continuous lines between each other, and are ordered so as to situate the next stroke's position so the form is consistent.
I really enjoyed this video, I learnt a lot and it was nice to listen to Yukie speak and to pick out words I knew. I also learnt I am rubbish at fu, but great at ya. Please do the same with Katakana, as I am sure it will be just as great.
When he said that the ka-ki-ku-ke-ko is most difficult.. I was flabbergasted 😆It is the easiest ones for me! Very interesting how it's so different for everyone
An awesome video! I have one question, not really related to the topic of the vid, but once I saw Yuki, I thought that I might try to ask - some weeks ago a small group of jurists just finished a new translation of the Civial Code of Japan with commentaries on the most important articles. Incorporated into the comments are some decisions of the Supreme Court of Japan, I had a decision from 1935. I do my main japanese legal research in constitutional law of the Meiji era. All that lead-up for that question: How hard is it for japanese natives to read such documents (a decision from 1935 or even the Meiji-Constitution)? I studied Japanese at university next to law and I found it quite hard to read those texts.
21:45 also here, look for the chinese characters that are the origin for the hiragana, in most cases they are still around as japanese kanjinor at least part of kanji -- there u can get the proportions. Ur right side is too much nice a + or a with the height of the crossing horizontal line ... But its rather like a 寸
I don't know Japanese or hiragana, but seeing why each character is constructed in a certain way, relative to proportion and calligraphic methods, actually changes how the characters look to me. Mind kinda blown 😂😂
I'm currently learning Chinese and one thing I've learned is that the neater your symbols are, the more they look like they were done by an elementary schooler 😂😂
I think the characters I mess up the most are か、そ、ひ、ふ and ら. Definetely improved after the video, at least they look less like a computer font 😁. And now I feel confident that my い and り can be told apart!
I noticed myself that the correct stroke order for hiragana も you start with the vertical line. But for the katakana モ you start with the horizontal one.
I can't believe how helpful this is... If possible at all, please please do the same for Katakana and maybe a few Kanji that contain common elements :)
I've always had trouble with the curvy ones, this actually helped a lot, thanks! Also, i've been making the same mistake with も, despite having the stroke order right there on the back of the Anki card xD
I'm a firm believer that stroke order doesn't matter, so long as the letter is recognizable, and stroke-order is for digital keyboards to help suggest the correct word.
Ok Andy, it's settled. I showed my wonderful (but not about to teach me Japanese) Japanese wife your site and she said he's the best youtuber so far. Forget all the other ones you've been watching and stick with Andy.
It's interesting watching this and she's correcting things.. but then the subtitles do the exact things she's dissing XD I think the font versions get you by at least
I think my problem with hiragana, it feels like I must "fill" the square... Like when Yuki spoke about "Ka" and drew the square... I write on grid paper so I feel like each character should fill the whole square so my characters end up a lot more "horizontally" squished than vertically
Please make a similar video for Katana with your wife! I enjoyed this educational and entertaining content and am interested in watching more. It has helped me improve my Hiragana writing skills. I deeply appreciate your consideration.
I first noticed something was up when I saw も on a chart I blindly found that was written in the way Andy first wrote it, and then I looked at another sheet that had done it the other way. Yuki's example made more sense of that. TBF, I didn't even get started looking at writing them until late, as I was more forcused on retention of the characters and their pronunciations more. But I also knew that they derived from kanji and later took notes on kanji stroke order, that when I revisited the charts, I started to question things. My own handwriting isn't great, but my strokes in Japanese looks more cursive-like at this point, so i don't think that would be particularly terrible. I do try to make it legible. So I would try to keep in mind with the emphasis on the curvature, direction and position. I just gotta practice it a bit more. That being said, the pointers here are good ones to look out for. I'm just more used to typing though.
14:40 ka is just the kanji 力 with an extra "dot" xD .... Well in fact its the character 加 'to add' which used the be pronounced something like "ka" in older chinese, and "chia"/"jia" today
I think one person speaking in English and the other in Japanese is helping me a lot with comprehensible input because I know the context for what’s being said
Yup! We're getting close to full re-working the reading section of our Anki deck that it is based on, so we should only be a month or so out from getting that series back up and going. 😊
Excellent video from only 10 minutes in! I hope you do this again with Katakana. After work, definitely going to write some of them, watch the section, and analyze what I'm doing. Thank you!
Follow up since I watched the video. I was doing 10 of them totally wrong. I wish we could see more with the grid. Even after watching the video, I have a tendency to have the bottom curve of my を protrude from the bottom line of the notebook. I do have a 原稿用紙（げんこうようし）notebook coming in, so hopefully that will help me with my writing.
In the US when I see hand writing from young women, the text is very bubbly, evenly spaced, "cute" even. Is that the same was what Yuki is describing, but for hiragana?
I used to worry about making my characters perfect until I started to see things written by native Japanese.
Same 😂
After living there I agree, It's like writing in english everybody don't write it the same.😂
Exactly! I started going on Pixiv and reading fan comics and looking at the handwritten text. It was so eye-opening!
i saw a vtuber with bad handwriting I struggled reading it lol
I have terrible English handwriting, might as well double down and be awful in Japanese too
Lessons with an actual Japanese native with full subtitles in both English and Japanese is incredible! Keep it up!
As a native Japanese, now I can confirm that he can write Hiragana way better than me
you know the difference between then and than, you already beat 50% of americans
@@SkiddlaDude hush, weeb.
@@Skiddla Jesus
I did not expect to have all my hiragana destroyed by an extremely nice Japanese lady today... But I'm already seeing a big improvement in my handwriting, so thank you! I'd love to see a similar video for katakana. Great job, guys 😊
I've been learning Japanese for just over a year now, and had no idea how necessary this video was for me. Way better than those videos that draw each kana one after another. This is how you fix mistakes
True
Indeed - and like any classroom, there's always that sacrificial kid on hand to provide an example of 'what not do' not to mention the entertainment value they bring! Aghh, who am I kidding, it was me - I was that kid...🤓
You just gotta remember this is all originally written for Paint Brushes. So imagine you pen as a paint brush and it helps
Does it?
@@timecarpet yeah
@Zorgot. Well it does explain why stroke order is so important
@@timecarpet It very much does. Look at a calligrapher writing with a brush pen and you'll see the logic behind stroke order and why some stop while others flick or taper. It's interesting if you like the writing system.
Exactly. And if you add that these come from simplified cursive kanji, you will start to see how each stroke flows into the next. The movement is somewhat continuous you are just lifting the brush at certain points. Honestly, I think it would be helpful to study Shoudo to really get good at writing Hiragana.
Hiragana lesson and listening practice in one video? Let's goooo
一石二鳥！
@@ToKiniAndy And learning a new idiom?!?
@@NikkiDimesYT killing three birds with one stone!
Holy thumbnail
Obsessed with thumbnail and title
😂
Accurate
Did anyone else glance at it and think she was shooting two french breads out of her eyes
yessir
Now that you practiced letter by letter, I would like to see you writing in context, like some phrases, and having her to point out what would go better in the whole harmonization
Its easy to remember the stroke order for や when you realized that its a simplified cursive version of 也 (not a 常用 but is a component of characters like 地 and 池)
Thank you, it's quite useful
Ah, but I don't know Chinese.
@@dvp39u mean kanji?
My い describes my personality very angular and rebellious and angry
bro
Why'd you gotta make me laugh in the morning man.
Basically you have to keep in mind the way the stroke moves to understand how they connect
The い has that little curve in the bottom because you can go up and connect to the top of the next portion of it, similarly the き has a style were the bottom curve disconnects, this disconnection in some styles happen because they imitate how with a brush its easy to naturally disconnect.
Regardless of style the important is to remember the stoke order and keep in mind that the order is not random, it's there because you need to move to the next part in a certain way, the stroke order is there to enforce the flow which helps your calligraphy and keep people from making things too weird.
Indeed. Stroke order homogenises the writing across multiple styles, and as a plus it's the easiest method of writing consistently. When I started practicing my writing speed it REALLY came in handy.
54:00 Yuki must have a super artistic mind if she was able to immediately see a guy bowling in that ふ haha
This was apparently a meme here in Japan back when she was in high school. 😆
That's the way I learned the mnemomic haha
ゴジラゆきが怖いですね！
EDIT: WOW that tip about か where the second and third strokes look like ハ is really great. I instantly got much better at writing it!
I think the different ways how each of you hold/grip the pen really makes a difference as well. A very insightful and interesting video overall. Thank you both!
so, maybe me trying to write with my left hand is why all my characters look super weird and funky ?
Yes ,you’re right. But still the way of using the pen is very different from one to another and it’s sometimes hard to change the way of writing.
Thanks a lot this was really helpful ! Looking forward to a Katakana version of this video ! Also, in addition, i'd love to see Yuki's "speedy" "unfocused" "regular" handwriting style !
So helpful, especially about the linking strokes ideas... also helps to understand reading native scribble hiragana which can be hard. I would love a Katakana one!
21:30 ehh wait minute! Horizontal line on け is actually going in downward direction.. mine was like Andy's one going in upward direction.. Thanks Yuki for this! It makes sense it to be downward as it'd make circle properly.. got it got it! Thanks!
フォントと手書きで違うの結構あるよね
英語でもaとかgとか違ったりするし
W😲W Yuki is an awesome help🤩 I learnt from comments also. I hope she helps more often🌟 Thank you both😊
I'm glad to hear that you found it helpful. 😊
Ahh, while doing the Genki workbook practices, I've just been winging how the hiragana, katakana, and kanji are supposed to look based on computer fonts. This video will be quite helpful to me going forward, thank ya!
You should look up stroke order
For kana, you have exercises and demonstrations out the nose, including worksheets for practice. Even Wikipedia has a how-to-write for each kana, in both varieties.
For kanji, I use Jisho. Their stroke-by-stroke demonstrations were such a huge help that my handwriting style is essentially those animations + natural human imprecision.
that was so useful and practical, thank you so much T-T can you please do with katakana too ?
This was a really interesting! I am currently at language school and the first set of teachers with き、さ、ち were very big on making sure the loops were not connected. the next semester, I got marked wrong on all of those for not connecting them. So it is interesting to see this process and Yuki's criticism and tips!
I don't think I have ever seen a ち that wasn't connected.
For き and さ I have seen both, but unconnected seems far more common.
@@Yotanido Interesting! My first group of teachers said either was fine, but the connected was the “old way” and the teacher that marked me for not connecting was older 🤔
This video made me memorize hiragana easily and faster! Im really glad I clicked on this video ^^
This was extremely helpful! I'm always getting marks off for stroke order! ありがとうございます!
Glad to hear you found it useful!
Listening to Yuki is amazingly satisfying and soothing. This is one of my new favorite youtube videos. I thought I was decent with my hiragana, but now pay much more attention and have improved significantly. Thanks to both of you.
Thank you so much for this video Andy San and thank you to your wife, Yuki San! With this, I have a specific reference to my daily hiragana practice(I was having trouble between choosing textbook/font or calligraphy-esque and why some characters are shaped the way they do)! Looking forward to your katakana video next!
Hey started japanese like a week ago, and i gotta thank you a lot for this, it helped me so much while learning how to write the Hiragana the right way ! please do one for Katakana too please 🙏
aw i love when yuki joins, this was a fun video :3
Always nice to see Yuki in a video!
This really helped. Would love to see more videos like this. Arigato
❤
such a good video!! I’m an advanced learner but still need work on my handwriting… will be coming back to reference this!
Out of all hiragana, ふ was easily my biggest struggle and the one that required the most practice. My best description of mine is "a flame's outline surrounded by a rain of harpoons".
This video is awesome, I really enjoyed following along and the improvement is instant! I feel like the pacing for videos like this is difficult to keep the watcher's focus while also giving time to process the learning, this was perfect ^^
It was really helpful! I didn't realize I was making a lot of mistakes until now! I'd love to see a katakana version. Thank you so much
I’m new to learning Japanese and I absolutely loved this video! Thank you so so much for uploading! I was writing the characters with you both! 🩵🙌🏾
the cuts and sharper angles are pretty smart. it gives you more control. rounder strokes tend to get exaggerated and throws off the balance.. its perfect!!!
Great tips, especially for the ”か” with which i was struggling a lot !
Imagine if her elementary school teacher just randomly sees this video and posts a comment "Jiiiiiii" XD I wouldn't be able to sleep after that.
Yuki is such a good teacher, I like her positivity and encouragement. Listening to her talk is helping with my listening while also learning how to write my hiragana better.
This was so helpful! Please do katakana next! 😄
Thank you @britty23!
His hiraganas are better than mine whereas I am a Japanese age of 42 who was educated in Japan.
毛筆を習ってるとゆきさんの言ってることがよくわかる。小学生が使ってる四マスのノートを使って欲しくなる😂
小学生が使ってる漢字のノートが使って見たいと思います
What I'm noticing is that, most of the things she corrects, are the things apps and tutorials tend to teach, so basically, we've been taught wrong for years
She does the calligraphy way, not the simple stick way. So many fonts available with just a pen/pencil :)
This is brilliant. So helpful.
former art major here. i have terrible english handwriting, but i LOVED learning hiragana/katakana and practiced it like crazy. it was too late for english for me but decided to try to make my kana at least legible. All i ever wanted was my japanese teacher to praise my writing :D:D
Hah, I can relate. My handwriting in the Latin alphabet is... legible. Perfectly legible. But that's about the best compliment I can give it. Meanwhile, I did dozens of sheets worth of kana exercises, literally _dozens,_ both from study worksheets and repetition practice in my notebook. And hey, I got my praises! Both teachers I've had so far praised my handwriting so highly that they got me fidgeting 😅
But the coolest part is, all that practice transferred over to kanji! Made getting used to writing them a very easy step, even complicated kanji in notebook lines' worth of space.
So foreigners write the characters like a font while natives are taught to write in calligraphic style
Kana is based on cursive kanji. They are supposed to be rounded and "calligraphic" even in fonts
@@freidrichvonleibneifferdie3820 You might have seen that the westerner used variants that had different skeleton and parts of the letter which she didn't use (such as 'fully' connected hiragana ki). So it isn't just about the proportions or rounding of the letters. Or straights or curves. She consistently interpreted them as cute or especially cute, which might be because font-like characters are more rounded and wide than usual. The fonty vs actual handwriting distinction became very useful for them (see 23:14 for example), the purpose of my comment was to highlight the distinction they used and to show that westerners probably had the same learning path from fonts and not handwriting or things in a more calligraphic style. A calligraphic style usually refers to handwriting or effects from stress (angle from writing element), varying pressure and stroke thickness, or artifacts from a brush
If you just draw them as you see them in text, yes, as a foreigner you'll do that. It's an easy "trapping" to fall into. If you find stroke order demonstrations, though, it's just like a native learns.
Oh thank you! I really want to improve my handwriting. Also hoping you would do kanji handwriting exercise at some point because my kanji looks very childish and disproportionate some characters look like multiple characters when I write it because of how disconnected and disproportionate they are 😭
This is awesome!! I'm currently studying Japanese and this was fun to watch, I really struggled writing あ when I was learning how to write it, lol.
One thing I noticed by myself, after observing a lot of calligraphy... Japanese is written as if you were doing a single continuous line.
Sometimes why you in the same line you take the penal get it off the paper keep on the line and get the thing down
Bullseye. 🎯 You just nailed why the writing is like it is: strokes form continuous lines between each other, and are ordered so as to situate the next stroke's position so the form is consistent.
I think this is one of the most helpful video for writing! But then again there are so many different types of writing!
I really enjoyed this video, I learnt a lot and it was nice to listen to Yukie speak and to pick out words I knew. I also learnt I am rubbish at fu, but great at ya. Please do the same with Katakana, as I am sure it will be just as great.
When he said that the ka-ki-ku-ke-ko is most difficult.. I was flabbergasted 😆It is the easiest ones for me! Very interesting how it's so different for everyone
ooh might write along with you guys as well. katakana would be nice as well for next video
When are you doing this with Kanji? I'd love to see the differences between how Chinese and Japanese write Chinese characters as a student of Mandarin
An awesome video! I have one question, not really related to the topic of the vid, but once I saw Yuki, I thought that I might try to ask - some weeks ago a small group of jurists just finished a new translation of the Civial Code of Japan with commentaries on the most important articles. Incorporated into the comments are some decisions of the Supreme Court of Japan, I had a decision from 1935. I do my main japanese legal research in constitutional law of the Meiji era. All that lead-up for that question: How hard is it for japanese natives to read such documents (a decision from 1935 or even the Meiji-Constitution)? I studied Japanese at university next to law and I found it quite hard to read those texts.
Love the video!! Thank you. It automatically made my handwriting better
Love your videos!!! The course has been helping out a lot, I’ve been enjoying it so much 😊😊
21:45 also here, look for the chinese characters that are the origin for the hiragana, in most cases they are still around as japanese kanjinor at least part of kanji -- there u can get the proportions. Ur right side is too much nice a + or a with the height of the crossing horizontal line ... But its rather like a 寸
I don't know Japanese or hiragana, but seeing why each character is constructed in a certain way, relative to proportion and calligraphic methods, actually changes how the characters look to me. Mind kinda blown 😂😂
this has helped so much. Thanks!
Great Video and great tips as well! My handwriting improved :D
I'm currently learning Chinese and one thing I've learned is that the neater your symbols are, the more they look like they were done by an elementary schooler 😂😂
I think the characters I mess up the most are か、そ、ひ、ふ and ら. Definetely improved after the video, at least they look less like a computer font 😁. And now I feel confident that my い and り can be told apart!
This was really useful to practice writing along with. Thank you.🙏
I usually have problems with the katakana bcz it has the smiling face things and the differences is unnoticeable
Yo. This has been educational aaaand entertaining at the same time. I thought i write hiragana well, but dang!!! I learn lots of new things here.
I noticed myself that the correct stroke order for hiragana も you start with the vertical line.
But for the katakana モ you start with the horizontal one.
I can't believe how helpful this is... If possible at all, please please do the same for Katakana and maybe a few Kanji that contain common elements :)
I've always had trouble with the curvy ones, this actually helped a lot, thanks!
Also, i've been making the same mistake with も, despite having the stroke order right there on the back of the Anki card xD
I'm a firm believer that stroke order doesn't matter, so long as the letter is recognizable, and stroke-order is for digital keyboards to help suggest the correct word.
Amazing to see how Yuki could improve upon every single one where I thought Andy did a good job. Another vote for doing katakana too.
Your wife is like a school teacher.😂 I'm Japanese who have not written jumping the left stick of "い" for about 20 years.😅
Nice video idea! It was really fun
Glad you liked it! 😊
@@ToKiniAndy Is there / will there be a katakana version of this?
it's always a good day when tokini sensei uploads
Finding out that I've also been using the wrong stroke order for も destroyed me lol
It *is* very unintuitive when you've gotten far enough to develop an intuition for stroke order...
Same here 💀 wrong stroke order for 10 years 😭
тот самый уровень осознания английского и японского, что я не сразу понял что они все видео говорят на разных языках...
I LOVE YOUR VIDS, ANDY! KEEP DOIN IT!
Ok Andy, it's settled. I showed my wonderful (but not about to teach me Japanese) Japanese wife your site and she said he's the best youtuber so far. Forget all the other ones you've been watching and stick with Andy.
It's interesting watching this and she's correcting things.. but then the subtitles do the exact things she's dissing XD I think the font versions get you by at least
you should do the opposite where you critique her English characters
him: writes the best hiragana of his life
her: cute
I think my problem with hiragana, it feels like I must "fill" the square... Like when Yuki spoke about "Ka" and drew the square... I write on grid paper so I feel like each character should fill the whole square so my characters end up a lot more "horizontally" squished than vertically
Please make a similar video for Katana with your wife! I enjoyed this educational and entertaining content and am interested in watching more. It has helped me improve my Hiragana writing skills. I deeply appreciate your consideration.
well i guess i guess ive just spent an hour and a half to re-learn to write basic kana onto some paper
Learned to write in hiragana thanks to this video, very helpful!!
I first noticed something was up when I saw も on a chart I blindly found that was written in the way Andy first wrote it, and then I looked at another sheet that had done it the other way. Yuki's example made more sense of that. TBF, I didn't even get started looking at writing them until late, as I was more forcused on retention of the characters and their pronunciations more. But I also knew that they derived from kanji and later took notes on kanji stroke order, that when I revisited the charts, I started to question things.
My own handwriting isn't great, but my strokes in Japanese looks more cursive-like at this point, so i don't think that would be particularly terrible. I do try to make it legible. So I would try to keep in mind with the emphasis on the curvature, direction and position. I just gotta practice it a bit more. That being said, the pointers here are good ones to look out for. I'm just more used to typing though.
My writing is bad but all I want is to read...
Might be fun to write cursive at her and see how she does. Literally zero videos on CZcams about that.
14:40 ka is just the kanji 力 with an extra "dot" xD .... Well in fact its the character 加 'to add' which used the be pronounced something like "ka" in older chinese, and "chia"/"jia" today
I think one person speaking in English and the other in Japanese is helping me a lot with comprehensible input because I know the context for what’s being said
For me all of those two strokes characters are super tough, like い and こ、or the ones that have a lot of curve, such as る、ろ、ち、を.
Hey are you still going to do the followup course on kanji where you teach us how to read words?
Yup! We're getting close to full re-working the reading section of our Anki deck that it is based on, so we should only be a month or so out from getting that series back up and going. 😊
I think the loop in す should be more like an ellipse than a triangle but idk personal take on it
Started to learn Japanese this weekend. This will be helpful, thanks.
Keep at it. When it becomes natural, you'll feel so satisfied.
8:29 kinda looks like a り. Either it’s just my ukiyo-e ‘font’ brain, or other folks see it too.
Excellent video from only 10 minutes in! I hope you do this again with Katakana.
After work, definitely going to write some of them, watch the section, and analyze what I'm doing. Thank you!
Follow up since I watched the video. I was doing 10 of them totally wrong. I wish we could see more with the grid. Even after watching the video, I have a tendency to have the bottom curve of my を protrude from the bottom line of the notebook. I do have a 原稿用紙（げんこうようし）notebook coming in, so hopefully that will help me with my writing.
In the US when I see hand writing from young women, the text is very bubbly, evenly spaced, "cute" even. Is that the same was what Yuki is describing, but for hiragana?
Many different あ are ok as long as the lower part looks like a normal め
oh from now on i watch youre blog its much better i heard both youre talking maybe i can memorize except writing 😊 impossible i can