Strange Kana You (Probably) Don't Know

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
  • There are more kana than most people realize. Today I'll be talking about some of them.
    Xiao's Channel: ‪@XiaosChannel‬
    Ngetoma: ‪@ngethoma‬
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    0:43 Shout Outs
    1:20 Obsolete Kana
    3:53 Hentaigana
    5:37 Goryakugana
    6:49 Diacritics
    10:41 Kanbun
    11:45 Outro

Komentáře • 408

  • @JJMcCullough
    @JJMcCullough Před 2 hodinami +2

    This was fascinating. Great job!

    • @FreeBirdJPYT
      @FreeBirdJPYT  Před hodinou

      @@JJMcCullough I’ve been a fan of yours for a while. Happy to see you here and I appreciate the compliment ✌️

  • @ChristianJiang
    @ChristianJiang Před 3 dny +492

    I kept trying to wipe the screen of my phone thinking that it was dirty but it was just the white background 💀

    • @mezameku
      @mezameku Před 3 dny +16

      oh my god, same.... i spent like 5 minutes trying to wipe it

    • @grqfes
      @grqfes Před 3 dny +5

      same with my monitor

    • @Mikelaxo
      @Mikelaxo Před 3 dny +15

      Same. I was eating toast and kept thinking I was getting crumbs on the screen. I kept wiping, and they would come back even when I didn't take a bite. I was so mad when I realized

    • @ChristianJiang
      @ChristianJiang Před 3 dny +8

      @@Mikelaxo lol I opened a can of beer and when I wiped and it didn’t go away I thought that it had already solidified somehow

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira Před 2 dny +12

      The intelligence of the average youtube user is at an all time low

  • @kshope855
    @kshope855 Před 2 dny +62

    Someone already mentioned this but in the Ainu language (in Hokkaido), there's some unique kanas. For example the small letters (non-vowel), such as, ㇰ (-k), ㇷ゚ (-p) and ㇽ (-r). There's also small ha-hi-hu-he-ho to represent ending kh (-kh) so ㇵ, ㇶ, ㇷ, ㇸ and ㇹ. And a lot of other quirks such as the usage of "we" (ヱ) and "wi" (ヰ).

  • @ACETHTraducoes
    @ACETHTraducoes Před 3 dny +132

    3:08 it's official, I can't escape Touhou

  • @TH-lu9du
    @TH-lu9du Před 3 dny +282

    ヴ is probably the most known to Japanese speakers. It is sometimes written, but the v is rarely pronounced. People still say baiorin, berry guddo. Edit: oh and あ゛is well known as well from manga.

    • @dooshmasta
      @dooshmasta Před 2 dny +21

      新世紀エヴァンゲリオン

    • @ProsecutorZekrom
      @ProsecutorZekrom Před 2 dny +1

      Hell, I learned it from my first youtube video teaching Kana (by Japanesepod101)

    • @SenhorKoringa
      @SenhorKoringa Před 2 dny +2

      ⁠@@dooshmasta「エバンゲリオン」or 「エワンゲリオン」

    • @HelderGriff
      @HelderGriff Před 2 dny +2

      I was going to mention Evangelion but a reply already did

    • @dooshmasta
      @dooshmasta Před 2 dny +1

      @@SenhorKoringa エヴァ

  • @KabalFromMK9
    @KabalFromMK9 Před 3 dny +64

    Fun fact, the katakana エ was originally meant to write "ye". The old katakana for "e" was 𛀀, which may not display for some devices.
    For people whose device does not support the character, it looks like ラ but with the first (top) stroke being 丶instead of 一

    • @Mikelaxo
      @Mikelaxo Před 3 dny +26

      I also find it funny when someone talks talks about a character and it's just a hatched box

    • @okand6156
      @okand6156 Před 3 dny +14

      yea i see a box with a question mark in the middle

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 Před 3 dny +7

      ​@@Mikelaxo hence the disclaimer. Let me just describe it, it's kind of like ラ but the first top stroke is a 丶 instead of 一

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 Před 3 dny

      ​@@okand6156 For those with device that does not display the characters, it's kind of like ラ but the first stroke is 丶instead of 一

    • @Mikelaxo
      @Mikelaxo Před 3 dny +1

      @@KabalFromMK9 so this kanji 之 but without the lower stroke?

  • @bgregz
    @bgregz Před 4 dny +266

    Japanese is so cool. I find it generally to be a very consistent language, but with the occasional quirk, such as with these kana.

    • @SiimKoger
      @SiimKoger Před 3 dny +33

      Spoken Japanese is amazing, written Japanese is broken. Not difficult, broken. The fact that even highly educated native speakers can't read many names means that something is wrong. I love Japanese but the writing is ridiculous.

    • @rynabuns
      @rynabuns Před 2 dny +11

      i love japanese, but consistent? 😅

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 Před 2 dny +2

      No natural language (as opposed to conlangs) is free from exceptions and inconsistencies. I'll give you an example of inconsistecy in Japanese; The kango (Sino-Japanese) word "sō'ō" 相応 means along the lines of appropriate; worthy; suitable. Its native synonym "fusawashii" is written as 相応しい to reflect their similar meanings.
      On the contrary, the kango word "fukuzatsu" 複雑 means along the line of complex; complicated; intricate. There is a native synonym of this word, "yayakoshii", but it's simply written in full hiragana as ややこしい instead of something like *複雑しい.

    • @jtmassecure4488
      @jtmassecure4488 Před 2 dny

      @@rynabunsYes it is consistent

    • @ilmnt.guidance
      @ilmnt.guidance Před 2 dny

      @@jtmassecure4488lol. I speak Mando Canto and Japanese, learned 10 lessons and after that can speak naturally a bit. Japanese? No!!! I studied 10 years now and my reading comprehension still so bad.

  • @KyoichiShido-cq6oi
    @KyoichiShido-cq6oi Před 3 dny +107

    Handakuten is also used with R-syllables to represent l sounds:-
    ラ゚( la) リ゚( li) ル゚ (lu) レ゚( le)ロ゚(
    lo)
    Dakuten is also used with W-syllables to represent V-sounds(an alternative toう&ウwith Dakuten).

  • @doesthisusername
    @doesthisusername Před 3 dny +58

    They also used to use kanbun for "translating" other languages, including English. It looks pretty cursed. You can find some examples if you image search something like "英語 漢文"

    • @rickyturner.
      @rickyturner. Před 3 dny +8

      Transliterating would be the word you’re looking for

    • @starpeep5769
      @starpeep5769 Před 3 dny +2

      Yup

    • @doesthisusername
      @doesthisusername Před 2 dny +8

      @@rickyturner. No, since kanbun doesn't preserve the original pronunciation. It's more like annotating the source text in order to give the reader enough information to understand it, mainly by showing character order and readings/particles when necessary

  • @eruantien9932
    @eruantien9932 Před 3 dny +184

    ヱ is occasionally used in names, more for stylistic reasons than anything else; e.g. クロエ and クロヱ have identical pronunciations, and the beer brand Yebisu is stylised as ヱビス (pronounced Ebisu).

    • @trueloverhn
      @trueloverhn Před 3 dny +5

      that characer looks so cool.. it looks like 고 !

    • @magicwomanm
      @magicwomanm Před 3 dny +5

      That character is used in the title of Evangelion, isn't it? I was wondering what that kana was!

    • @tsukodome6132
      @tsukodome6132 Před 3 dny +8

      For Vocaloid fans, that character was used and known from a popular Vocaloid Song named "イ *ヱ* スマン", which translates "Yesman" by Niru Kajitsu.

    • @themaniceraser
      @themaniceraser Před 2 dny

      ​@@tsukodome6132 vocaloid fans!! always wondered why it was written that way but never actually bothered to research why lol, thanks for the info

    • @21cpu21
      @21cpu21 Před 2 dny

      @@magicwomanm only in the rebuilds

  • @projectgodwill4635
    @projectgodwill4635 Před 3 dny +20

    10:38 There is also the possibility to add the maru to R-row characters to get an L-row. Now, Japanese does not distinguish such sounds at all, not even in modern transcription, but Catholic missionaries in the previous century did use such to teach the readings of chants in Latin

    • @ankokunokayoubi
      @ankokunokayoubi Před 2 dny +4

      I heard it's also used in classical music realm in Japan to get Latin choirs right

    • @SirusStarTV
      @SirusStarTV Před 19 hodinami

      ラ゚ラ゚ティーナ

  • @user-oz9tn2td3q
    @user-oz9tn2td3q Před 3 dny +16

    When I asked my Japanese teacher why Ga is sometimes said Nga he told me something along the lines of "it is beautiful speech" and that is how they might say it on news broadcasts. It coming from the Tokyo dialect makes sense, I'm sure that is a dominant dialect on TV.

  • @bennythetiger6052
    @bennythetiger6052 Před 4 dny +268

    This was a pretty fun video! I'd always hear the "nga" sound and be wondering "why tho" 😂. I didn't realize it was a dialect
    EDIT: Glad to see that you hit your 1k subs goal pretty quick! It seems like this is your most watched video so far!

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai Před 3 dny +9

      Sungoi ne

    • @epik1391
      @epik1391 Před 3 dny +6

      @@NihongoWakannai un

    • @WoodEe-zq6qv
      @WoodEe-zq6qv Před 3 dny +7

      Standard japanese pronounces the g very far back in the mouth. That's why you'll sometimes hear だが pronounced like だんが as well.

    • @deithlan
      @deithlan Před 3 dny +18

      The "nga" sound was actually the original sound. The "ga" pronunciation is much newer. The Tokyo dialect and others that have kept "nga" are actually the conservative ones here. It is also why you’ll tend to hear the "nga" sound much more in older demographics.

    • @bennythetiger6052
      @bennythetiger6052 Před 3 dny +8

      @@deithlan hell yeah, more lore

  • @seseiSeki
    @seseiSeki Před 3 dny +59

    There's even more weird Kana, if you look at the Ainu language. For example, they got stuff like ツ゚, セ゚ and ㇱ. "tu" (unlike Japanese tsu), "tse" and "-s" respecitively.

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 Před 3 dny +16

      There's also ラ゜for la when a distinction between r and l is needed

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 Před 3 dny +3

      Also, isn't "tu" written like "ト゜"?

    • @seseiSeki
      @seseiSeki Před 3 dny +8

      @@KabalFromMK9 according to good old uncited Wikipedia articles, they are both interchangeable. Couldn't find better sources and the two book scans I've got lying around are only in Roman letters.
      On the other hand, I've never seen a distinction between r and l in Ainu. Where did you find that? :D

    • @kijete
      @kijete Před 3 dny +6

      ​@@seseiSekias far as i can tell, ら゚ was introduced in the meiji era to distinguish l and r in loanwords. my only sources for this are english and japanese wikipedia, though the former has no source and the latter's is apparently invalid

    • @seseiSeki
      @seseiSeki Před 3 dny +6

      @@KabalFromMK9 Alright, found the source. "Untersuchungen über den Bau der Aino-Sprache" by Dr. August Pfizmaier, 1851. It is very possible, that that's outdated lol
      Kinda hard to track, since Ainu writing isn't standardized.

  • @seneca983
    @seneca983 Před 2 dny +5

    In addition to these, there's also the katakana extension for writing the Ainu language. I think these are basically just small versions of some katakana and they represent only the consonant sound of the character. They are used to write final consonants that don't occur in Japanese.

  • @XiaosChannel
    @XiaosChannel Před 4 dny +78

    11:32 it's kind of like writing chinese characters but reading in shakespeherian english? that is the closest metaphor i can think of. the text you have i think is in mixed kanbun and manyogana so it would be only readable by japanese aristocrats, not technically what i would call classic chinese, but it's pretty close

    • @oyoo3323
      @oyoo3323 Před 3 dny +6

      It isn't. A lot of Japanese thing it is, but in reality the chants they read are utter nonsense gibberish in all languages.

  • @krinawler
    @krinawler Před 3 dny +72

    THE CIRNO PLUSH

    • @OmegaTaishu
      @OmegaTaishu Před 3 dny +15

      Strongest plush

    • @FreeBirdJPYT
      @FreeBirdJPYT  Před 3 dny +41

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      ⠀⠀⡜⠁⠀⠈⢢⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⠋⠷⠶⠱⡄
      ⠀⢸⣸⣿⠀⠀⠀⠙⢦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡴⠫⢀⣖⡃⢀⣸⢹
      ⠀⡇⣿⣿⣶⣤⡀⠀⠀⠙⢆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⡪⢀⣤⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣸
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      ⠀⣧⣛⣭⡾⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣿⣷⣎⡇
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      ⠉⠉⢹⡇⠀⠀⠀⢀⣞⠡⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡝⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣹
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    • @Zorgot.
      @Zorgot. Před 3 dny +5

      @@FreeBirdJPYT gotta bring back ascii art

    • @krinawler
      @krinawler Před 3 dny +1

      @@OmegaTaishu REALEST

    • @krinawler
      @krinawler Před 3 dny +4

      @@FreeBirdJPYT OH MY GOD REAL LIVE STATEMENT

  • @barnabasvarvolgyi3533
    @barnabasvarvolgyi3533 Před 2 dny +3

    I’d failed my end term exam and I have to retake it in January. ( my major was Japanese studies ans I just couldn’t get my head around linguistics. Thank you so much for this video. It helped me a lot.

  • @KoyasuNoBara
    @KoyasuNoBara Před 2 dny +3

    9:00 Oh my God, you just solved something I've wondered for almost two decades.
    In Sailor Moon, I could always _swear_ Usagi's mother called her "Usangi," but I couldn't figure out _why_ I was hearing an n. I thought I was imagining it. But no, her VA just uses Tokyo Dialect!
    Thank you so much!

  • @dovahfruit9503
    @dovahfruit9503 Před 4 dny +19

    I didn't know about the maru diacritic being used on the ka family! Nor about tenten being used to roughen up the vowel kana. Really interesting and informative video, I've found the Japanese writing system so interesting since I begun learning it, so getting to know more hentaigana is really exciting.
    Most of my attention has been diverted towards phonetics since I begun learning the language, and there's so many obscure intricacies your average joe, or even native speaker simply wouldn't pick up on, and its opened my mind to so many oddities in the the English language as well.
    Love this video and hope you have ideas for more like it in the future, I think I'll enjoy the content either way though.

  • @ChibiChidorii
    @ChibiChidorii Před 2 dny +1

    dude, I feel like I've learned so much from such a precise, nice, short video.
    I've been missing these kinda very informative less than 15 minute video. It seems everything has to be at least 50 minutes nowadays and at that point I just can't store the information shown.
    This one? I feel like I learned a lot and I can still remember it all.

  • @darinaprstmmprhdl6975
    @darinaprstmmprhdl6975 Před 3 dny +14

    that's a super cool topic. i've been _teaching_ Japanese for years, but it's actually the first time I see goryakugana - and also all of these things discussed in such a concise way and with clear examples.
    thank you very much for the work 🙏

  • @exxelsetijadi5348
    @exxelsetijadi5348 Před 4 dny +16

    i think the only other time i've seen the we kana used is in the name of a character, just like wi
    without going into the rabbit hole to keep it short, it's a character played by a streamer; the character's name is Chloe but instead of being written as クロエ "Kuroe" it was written as クロヱ "Kurowe" but still pronounced the exact same way
    the other time is the logo for Neon Genesis Evangelion where it looks like they wrote ヱヴァンゲリヲン "Wevangeriyon"
    but i could just be mistaking the stylized エ as ヱ since they are literally one hook and nudge away from being identical, and wevangeriyon doesn't make any sense
    though in both cases it's the katakana we, so that means i still have never seen hiragana we used anywhere in any words until this video

  • @goubi10
    @goubi10 Před 3 dny +4

    awesome video! lots and lots of cool piece of knowledge that I've never knew about, although living in Japan and learning japanese passionately. great work!

  • @Murakamiyu_
    @Murakamiyu_ Před 4 dny +18

    First time just got this video on recommended, watched it and loved it I even subbed because of the topic of it please bring more videos like this I loved it, I'm Japanese and I didn't even know some of those Kanas existed😅

    • @FreeBirdJPYT
      @FreeBirdJPYT  Před 4 dny +5

      動画を見てありがとうございます~^^
      面白い日本トピックの動画を作るのが大好きだから、未来にもっと動画を作るのをけいかくしています!

  • @khangduong9981
    @khangduong9981 Před dnem +1

    bro casually has a scottish flag and a Cirno plush laying in the background while he talks about hideous kana's. Very relevant

  • @interruptingPreempt
    @interruptingPreempt Před 3 dny +2

    Knew about the w- and v- sounds, but the rest were entirely new to me. Thank you for this explanation.
    And thanks for the recommendations on further explanations. I appreciate it.

  • @LordJordanXVII
    @LordJordanXVII Před dnem

    Totally in love with this. Subscribed!

  • @XiaosChannel
    @XiaosChannel Před 4 dny +20

    overall great video! glad that i helped :)

  • @damian_madmansnest
    @damian_madmansnest Před 2 dny +1

    There is a hiragana ye symbol because the syllable ye used to exist in Old Japanese and Manyoushuu.
    Also if you go to National Diet Library ebooks collection and look at some Edo period handwritten xylographic books, you’ll learn a lot about hentaigana or goryakygana. Those were the original hiragana before standardisation (which took place during Meiji era) and the individual characters were connected.

  • @0Aquamelon
    @0Aquamelon Před 3 dny +3

    I studied japanese in college (I've forgotten a lot of it) and we did learn が is pronounced /ga/, but also: we heard our professor say /ŋa/ when speaking quickly. I never used/saw people use the "ka" with the Maru. I always associated ”が” to sound either like /ga/ or /ŋa/

  • @Lucroq
    @Lucroq Před 9 hodinami

    I always love when people go into intricate detail on the topics that fascinate them, and this one is a prime example

  • @undercoverbreadbug7729

    Thank you so much for this video!! I just started reading a manga that used some ten ten on vowel sounds and i was so confused as to how to read them 😭
    本当にありがとう!

  • @ryjitarose5590
    @ryjitarose5590 Před 2 dny +1

    It's always intersting to research scripts develop, be it from Mdw-nṯr (Egyptian hieroglyphs) or glyphs from Zēmānāwac (Mesoamerica). I do wonder though why some of the now faded kana don't get re-vitalized or why new ones like one for won't be make that's based on Hànzì. Not necessarily for writing Nihon-go, but for foreign languages to better phonetically represent their pronunciation
    Anyways, Scotland forever (I ain't from Alba)! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‼️🔥💯🗣

  • @loamysoil
    @loamysoil Před 3 dny +7

    There's this Buddhist deity, the King of Hell, whose name is Enma, and the traditional way to write it (which is still used until today by the Kyoto temple centered around his medieval statue) is ゑんまさま. Interestingly enough, though the accurate modern transcription would be Enma, the temple's website romanizes it as Yenma, which falls very well in line with the 円 example you've given.

  • @nitroglyccerin
    @nitroglyccerin Před 3 dny +8

    this is a great video, thank you. i always wondered how do i pronounce あ゛

  • @chockie
    @chockie Před 3 dny +6

    commenting to boost this in the algorithm more, i clicked this without thinking (or seeing the only 1k viewcount!) and was blown away by the quality at your current channel size. may the algorithm bless you and blow up your channel. knew about wi/we and most of these but had no clue about the ng- sounds, crazy!

    • @chockie
      @chockie Před 3 dny +1

      also JUST NOTICED THE CIRNO FUMO, makes sense you would know about and mention tewi and know nichijou, based af. subscribed

    • @FREAKSLICER
      @FREAKSLICER Před 3 dny +1

      Lol me too, I fat fingered this video while trying to go to another one, but it was so good I kept watching

  • @Foas
    @Foas Před 3 dny +3

    Found your channel this morning, great content. Hope you keep blowing up, がんばれ!

  • @lafcursiax
    @lafcursiax Před 2 dny

    When I learn about a writing system, I kind of feel like learning the obscure, obsolete and rare characters in it is just as important as the basics. I thought I knew kana pretty well, especially since I found out about wi and we, but there were a lot of surprises in this video!

  • @ralamations2061
    @ralamations2061 Před 3 dny +7

    omg as for the “ye” character there is one instance that i’ve seen a character i don’t recognize and can’t find that seems to be it is in jojos bizarre adventure (of all places 😭) steel ball run chapter 34, gyro near the end yells JOHNNYYYYY, and it reads ジョニイイイイイ and then a bunch of a character that i can’t type or find, and it looks pretty similar to the “ye” character. the only problem i thought of was that since the character is repeated it would be pronounced “yeyeyeyeye”, but apparently the character can also be pronounced “e” so that would make since, gyro yelling JOHNYYYYYEEEE and ジョニイイイイイエエエエエエエエエエエ
    also subscribed, very good video

  • @doce3609
    @doce3609 Před dnem

    Loved this ❤️

  • @katyungodly
    @katyungodly Před 3 dny +2

    I first saw one of these weird nonstandard kana in the film Spirited Away. There is one on the wall in the first shots of the spirit town market.

  • @tomcrowell6697
    @tomcrowell6697 Před 2 dny

    You are a new favorite of mine, senpai sensei.

  • @Kaihatsu
    @Kaihatsu Před dnem

    か゚ is used for transcribing Dunan, the language spoken on Yonaguni island (some people claim it's a dialect of Japanese but it's not).
    あか゚い (pronounced angai) means "East", whereas in Japanese it's "higashi" (ひがし).
    The sentence あか゚いぬ てぃんがら 'くゆ あか゚ん (angai tingara 'kuyu angan) means "The moon rose in the Eastern sky"
    I spent a little while on the island a few months ago and got to know a bit more about the language. It's quite distinct from Japanese!
    The Ainu language also has its fair share of kana, ranging from small kana to mark consonants モシㇼ (moshir - meaning land), to ones for syllable combinations that aren't in standard Japanese, like ト゚, which is used in the word ト゚ナカイ (tunakay - meaning reindeer).
    In a sentence: アト゚イ オㇿ ウン チェㇷ゚ クエ (Atuy orun chep ku=e) means "I ate a fish from the ocean".
    Ainu is a language that I've actually received instruction in, and it's much easier than the Yonaguni language, which has a really complicated grammar compared to Japanese and Ainu...

  • @swagpoo
    @swagpoo Před 4 dny +4

    I'd love to see more videos on linguistics, this one was good as! super interesting

  • @JPLee-zs3wk
    @JPLee-zs3wk Před dnem +1

    Japanese teachers never teach these things.
    Thank you very much for your informative video.

  • @PavlosPapageorgiou
    @PavlosPapageorgiou Před dnem

    Thanks! That was satisfyingly complicated!

  • @snowcloudshinobi
    @snowcloudshinobi Před 2 dny +1

    4:33 cirno fumo jumpscare

  • @cuylerotsuka
    @cuylerotsuka Před dnem

    Note: ゑ and ヱ were fairly commonly used in feminine names for women born in the Taisho era and earlier. Having done a fair amount of family history research for various Japanese Americans, I can also attest to the fact that hentaigana were fairly commonly used in feminine names for women born in Taisho era and before as well.

  • @RealTragoe2
    @RealTragoe2 Před 3 dny +1

    Awesome video! Earned a sub.

  • @JSerrato289
    @JSerrato289 Před 4 dny +8

    that thumbnail is cursed

    • @SirusStarTV
      @SirusStarTV Před 18 hodinami

      I always use get-youtube-thumbnail when the comment mentions something about thumbnail that i didn't spot before clicking on it

  • @GAISENSE
    @GAISENSE Před 2 dny

    Well I liked the video, so I liked the video. First time seeing your content, this was fun 😁

  • @vegan_dragon
    @vegan_dragon Před 3 dny +1

    Keep in mind that Ainu got more lower case katakana than Japanese has.

  • @vitaliykormov1266
    @vitaliykormov1266 Před 4 dny +1

    Amazing stuff. Never knew that kana is this extensive

  • @suadrifkoplak
    @suadrifkoplak Před 3 dny +1

    Thanks for your video, its interesting. Also during my research on Kana i found another set Kana and its obscure one that is Taiwanese Kana. Set of Hiragana and Katakana for Taiwan languange during Japanese occupation 1895-1945

  • @viniciusnascimentomaeda6725

    Thanks for bringing this very interesting topic, by the way, nice haircut you got bro 😎

  • @Ichirou-P
    @Ichirou-P Před 2 dny +1

    Most interesting video I’ve seen in a while.

  • @ricardofigueiredo3585
    @ricardofigueiredo3585 Před 3 dny +2

    this video has much more quality than what you would expect from a channel with 1000 subs

  • @JoshSaysStuff
    @JoshSaysStuff Před 3 dny +1

    I’d love to see a follow-up that focuses on some more of the characters covered here! I know you had to condense it for length, but the brief glimpses of some of those kana were fascinating.

  • @77Catguy
    @77Catguy Před 2 dny

    Fascinating--thanks much! I just want to add that the "ye" sound--one of three that you mentioned not having much at all to do with modern Japanese--must have had some relevance over the past century or so since so many Japanese-American personal or family names have been transliterated that way--for example "Sanaye" for "Sanae" or "Uyeda" for "Ueda." There are others as well that I don't recall at the moment. It would be interesting if you could comment on that. Anyway, thanks again for this clear-spoken, detailed explanation!

  • @FaridTaba
    @FaridTaba Před 3 dny

    Informative video! I lived in Japan for 7 years (and going back to live there again soon), and my Japanese is decent, yet I didn’t know some of these facts! Subscribing. Good luck with your channel!

  • @im_a_chair.
    @im_a_chair. Před 3 dny +3

    I found this image on wikipedia on the man'yougana origins of hiragana and katakana. that contains a (slightly cursive) kana for both yi and ye.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kana#/media/File:FlowRoot3824.svg

  • @egohicsum
    @egohicsum Před 2 dny

    great video ❤️

  • @hi3d_xes
    @hi3d_xes Před 3 dny +2

    まさかけ゚とまが紹介されるとは

  • @T0Ltaka
    @T0Ltaka Před 2 dny +1

    Let’s get this guy to 10k

  • @Jumptohistory
    @Jumptohistory Před 3 dny +3

    I never knew characters like け゚ even existed. Now I have some newfound knowledge about my first language.
    But the "Yi" and "Wu" sounds? I don't think they even exist in Japanese. In fact, many Japanese people seem to struggle distinguishing between "Yee" and "Ee" sounds and "Woo" and "Oo" sounds even in English.
    Also, the 鼻濁音(bidakuon) are actually used in the Standard Japanese as well, although less people in the younger generations tend to use them. And as far as I know, they are never used at the beginning of a clause.

    • @KabalFromMK9
      @KabalFromMK9 Před 3 dny +1

      While it may be true that "yi" and "wu" never existed in Japanese, some linguists from the Meiji era did actually create artificial (if you prefer that term) kanas for yi and wu (and a new katakana for ye, as エ historically denoted ye) to fill in the gap.

  • @ManicEightBall
    @ManicEightBall Před 2 dny +1

    I would have liked to hear about the characters used for writing Ainu. Maybe you could cover that some time. Otherwise, great video. Thanks.

  • @TanukiYT
    @TanukiYT Před 2 dny

    Super cool video!

  • @opiret44
    @opiret44 Před 4 dny +1

    Would love to see what's next

  • @AnthonyYouTube
    @AnthonyYouTube Před 3 dny

    Just binge watched your entire channel and noticed that your sub count went up by, like 200 in the span of two hours. Great stuff, I'm very much looking forward to seeing more of you!

  • @tomcrowell6697
    @tomcrowell6697 Před 2 dny

    I learned so much and ot made so much sense. Wow, I was really off base on some of this and now I know how much I completely sounded like an idiot.

  • @colinwelsch5638
    @colinwelsch5638 Před 3 hodinami

    great video!

  • @BDtetra
    @BDtetra Před 23 hodinami

    another thing people might be interested is would be 踊り字 aka repeat symbol. The kanji variation being 々 in cases such as 少々 粛々 時々 代々木, the hiragana/katakana version (that is only used for fancy purposes) being used in examples such as 学問のすゝめ バナヽ いすゞのトラック, longer repeat symbols used in vertical writing like




    etc.

  • @AlexTrusk91
    @AlexTrusk91 Před 2 dny

    Well, count me in. I just started learning 6 months ago, but it's fun so far. And these intrecate details are actually really interesting, although mainly historically interesting :)

  • @jammies9890
    @jammies9890 Před 3 dny

    Congrats on 1K!!

  • @saulemaroussault6343
    @saulemaroussault6343 Před 3 dny +1

    Congrats on 1k :)

  • @user-yk9ie5wy5n
    @user-yk9ie5wy5n Před 2 dny

    hi, from japan here, there is one fun thing with YE hiragana, it is still used in Ise, Mie perfecture for products or restaurants that specialize in serving ise shrimp 伊勢えび🦐 and you can see that old hiragana almost everywhere there as a decoration or restaurant names since it sounds very much like word えび 
    i just looove seening old hiraganas and they are so interesting and with new forgein words borrowed to japan, they actually could be useful in the future
    ps. there is japanese beer called yebisu as well, but i hear people call it ebisu (depending on a dialect)

  • @tomcrowell6697
    @tomcrowell6697 Před 2 dny

    I am going to re-watch this video so many times. It is great food for thought. I usually call myself kuroweru tomu.... but you gave me one kana that is tomo. Feiggin brilliant! I am hooked on the past and etymology before you. I am so glad you broke this down.
    I have watched English speakers exasperated over writing my name in english.... in America! And I showed them tomu in hiragana and they said, "it will take me months to learn that. Friggin what?!??. It's thwo characters. How could the have a problem. I will show them tomo. It might be easier. *laughs*

  • @CrysolasChymera2117
    @CrysolasChymera2117 Před 3 dny +1

    U have also found out ラ゚ with the /ra/ set of kanas, using the handakuten to specify that the syllable is not /r/ but /l/ which is not usually differentiated in standard Japanese. The unicode glyph is there but I have never seen it used apart from in Wikipedia.

  • @GigaDavy91
    @GigaDavy91 Před 3 dny +1

    you got a new sub

  • @jerichols
    @jerichols Před 3 dny +1

    I actually distinctly remembering learning about dakuten and handakuten when I first started self teaching Japanese quite a few years back! i used to use flash cards to study them and remember that not all of the syllables have the tenten or maru...

  • @gunngg908
    @gunngg908 Před 2 dny +1

    hentaigana looks like ai trying to generate hiragana

  • @OsakaJoe01
    @OsakaJoe01 Před 3 dny +1

    And then there are sound changes and the Japanese government intervening in *that.*
    Sound changes are the reason why some Americans with Japanese ancestry have names like "Inouye," and Ebisu is sometimes spelled "Yebisu." There was a time in history when the Japanese wanted to eliminate づ by replacing them all with ず, because they "were the same sound." They're NOT, and づ can't be fully eliminated in compound words with words that have つ in them. (E.g. 三日月, where 月 is つき and not すき)
    There are also funky spellings of things in romanized Japanese, complicating the matter. E.g., Meidiya and Huzi-san.

  • @Come2Japan
    @Come2Japan Před 3 dny

    Good stuff!

  • @jgharston
    @jgharston Před dnem

    I was coding up a Japanese character driver back in the late 1980s, and was advised that instead of just coding to support pre-formed k* d* z* etc. I needed to code for " and ゜ as seperate modifiers that could be combined with *anything*. Just like in English just because there's no word spelled kqzj doesn't mean that you should be incapable of physically typing it.

  • @henselstep
    @henselstep Před 2 hodinami

    Thank you. I had found an example of an example of あ゛and it confused me. Now i know it :D

  • @fac7orcosplay
    @fac7orcosplay Před 3 dny

    Spectacular

  • @lennyuniverse
    @lennyuniverse Před 2 dny +1

    Turns out you didnt need to ask me to sub, bc I subbed 90 seconds into the video. Well made, well researched, and looking forward to seeing more!

  • @sakesaurus1706
    @sakesaurus1706 Před 3 dny +1

    in riichi mahjong there's a lot of classical chinese readings

  • @NorthSea_1981
    @NorthSea_1981 Před 2 dny

    Great video!
    Btw: I'm German and my first name (Uwe) would be written in Katakana as such: 「ウヴェ」

  • @eyeofthasky
    @eyeofthasky Před 2 dny

    YI YE und WU have also katatana in unicode. dont forget that hiragana was basically just a "womens aesthetic handwriting" of katakana and got their status as an own thing way later, so it wouldnt make sense to create unicode points for a hiragana variant

  • @Itamii1337
    @Itamii1337 Před 3 dny

    damn that was way more interesting than i expected

  • @tandysaysyoucandoanything6758

    After finally being able to read at a 3rd grade level, this video reminds me that I still have so much to learn 🥺頑張ります

  • @owojohnson1115
    @owojohnson1115 Před 2 dny

    Looks like we got you up above 1k

  • @dooshmasta
    @dooshmasta Před 2 dny

    That was fascinating, and I’ve been speaking Japanese my whole life.

  • @markshen3280
    @markshen3280 Před 2 dny +1

    What is used more often these days in modern-trend 2024 Japan 🇯🇵, in typical Japanese classrooms ?

  • @errchy
    @errchy Před 3 dny +1

    Interesting!

  • @Dan_the_man-ls5vb
    @Dan_the_man-ls5vb Před 2 dny

    Interesting, no clue that you could put Maru on かきくけこ. I guess my teachers accent rubbed off on me 😂. Nice vid.

  • @user-lz1yb6qk3f
    @user-lz1yb6qk3f Před 2 dny

    Cool! Make some more!

  • @DeFaulty101
    @DeFaulty101 Před 3 dny

    If there are two things I love, they're well produced educational content, and supporting the exploited working class! You have my sub!