New Zealand Bar Crossing - How to cross a bar safely in a trailer powerboat
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- How to cross the bar safely
Even for the most experienced boaties, bar crossings are a high-risk activity. This clip provides information on how to make safer bar crossings.
Bar crossings should always be approached with the right preparation and attitude of caution. Always make sure you head out with an experienced skipper prior to attempting to cross a bar for the first time.
Produced by Waikato Regional Council and Bay of Plenty Regional Council, with funding from ACC and Maritime NZ.
Bar crossings should always be approached with the right preparation and attitude of caution. Always make sure you head out with an experienced skipper prior to attempting to cross a bar for the first time.
There are location-specific bar crossing clips available for the following bars: Bowen Town, Maketu, Raglan, Tairua.
Produced by Waikato Regional Council and Bay of Plenty Regional Council, with funding from ACC and Maritime New Zealand.
How to cross a bar safely. Harbourmaster Mat Collicott and Coastguard will walk you through key steps. Films are available for Raglan, Tairua, Bowentown and Maketu bars also.
Produced by Waikato Regional Council and Bay of Plenty Regional Council, with funding and support from ACC, Maritime New Zealand, and Coastguard.
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Always have cold beer ready when crossing a bar
Great video guys, something every boaty should watch before going out. Well done
Excellent video which may save lives. Thanks lads!
Very nice and professionally done. Great advice all around. Thank you
Thank you from Greece, NZ coast guard !!!
crossing a bar is like public speaking; its generally the worst thing you will ever do but once you commit you are in the zone.. nothing else matters.. the reward is out there .. just gota do it! Great video - I got sideways on a wave last time I went out.. almost lost my snapper haul; thanks for the great advice and content. Aussie mate out.
Thank you for making this video, awesome information, Cheers mate...
Brilliant Video, very useful info. Thanks for that
Excellent info and filming. In South Africa, on our wild coast we do not have the luxury of NSRI stations/info. It is all done from experience. Most old timers did this on one man paddle skis. Thanks guys.
Excellent and informative. We do not have "bar crossings" in the Great Lakes, but the boat handling elements of this video is definitely applicable to our large steep waves.
Me too, 23 years of sailing lake Erie I've been in some very heavy weather, but no bar crossings, however, I wonder entering and leaving some of the river and marina outlets can be very tricky, are we seeing something like the bar effect waves as the waves from the lake are entering the shallower waters of the inlet?
My name is Mat and I was part of making these films. I strongly suggest leaning on your local coastguard unit for support and advice BEFORE tackling any bar. If you can't find a Coastguard expert to assist, there are plenty of locals who know their bars inside out that will be more than happy to school you up
Hi There, What boat is this they using in this video?
@Patriot Jefferson You can't cross a bar in a yacht under sail at all. There is no safe way to do that.
The only exception to this is that historically there have been some wind powered barges that didn't have keels, but did have extra wide hulls which could do it under optimal conditions but these don't exist any more.
No you wasn't, I didn't see you
That was BRILLIANT, scary but BRILLIANT. Scary is a good thing it make you think deeper, I doubt I will be crossing a bar but at least I know what a bar is. At 63 I always thought a bar was the opening to the sea from a river or estuary. When I was 18 the ferry's in Liverpool at night when Mersey crossings where close are used as night clubs ( dont do that now, this was in the mid 70's) so I used to go there obviously to click with young girls, so the ferries went to the bar and turned around this would take 6 hours 3 each way. That was so informative ive saved it to my laptop. Not buying a boat as such but I want a Honwave T32 IE with a 15hp four stroke engine. Its only for me hence why its only 3.2 mtres I have not bought it yet but will practice on lakes and rives before going out into the sea. I have lots of videos of learing tides but SAND BAR ? Thank you so much for helping me under stand what those are and now I can really understand how DANGEROUS on a windy day that would be and possibly even more dangerous with a cross wind. Thanks for sharing and stay safe out there, Ray K. UK. YNWA.
great informative video. mean as. Thank you.
The three types of bars gave me a chuckle.
Fantastic Video well done guys, shared to our Facebook page and Web site !
Awesome, thanks for sharing guys.
Ces montages vidéo ricains sont définitivement imbuvables !
Great video!! TKS ! gretings from Brazil.
Great video. Very informative. Hello from Canada
Thanks for the video! Seemingly I’ve been doing many things wrong in the past but now I hope I’m at least a little smarter in this matter.
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thank's for the excellent info.
Great video! Faved!
Great video thank you you are great teacher god Bless you and you family
awesome vid, learnt a lot
Fantastic stuff
Great instructional video.
Alot different to the bars in Oz, I have fished both east and west coast and Kalbarri is the bitch of all bars IMO. Long run and you have to take the waves side on for a good portion of it...no choice. great vid all the same :)
Excellent video.
i love this guy's bad ass metal boat
I was watching the Miami channel on here to watch fools on boats going out and stuffing their bows. I figured it was time for me to gain some actual useful knowledge about crossing bars.
It was great that showing how safety to boating, i think every captain should learn and take serious about bar crossing.
Even in my location Hong Kong, there so many of waves like bar crossing and it very dangerous when you in wrong time to crossing the waves, those waves may cause by a giant container which very common in Hong Kong waters.
I just start boating about 2 years but I learn so much from this great video, I think this just save me and my friend life in these days.
There question, is that I can share and show to my friends when they also want to learn boating? I think this easy to know how and know what to do for facing to the waves.
er not just captains silly, applies to anyone owning a boat lol
Some places the owner or person in charge of the boat is called "Captain" too. The title "Captain" doesn't necessarily mean only licensed Captains. For instance, here in the US if you're traversing a lock, the lock personnel will refer to you as "Captain" on the radio if you're the one in command of the boat and they will assume that you're in charge if you are speaking to them on the radio.
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I have a 10 foot dingy. I am the captain of that boat. They are correct in calling you captain as that is what you are. If you are in command of a boat (even a model), you are the captain of that boat.
Good stuff--applies to smaller entrances as much as it does to larger rivers like the Columbia River west coast USA--Play it safe and dont mess around with the bar if the tide is ebbing and the swell is running!
A great video. It advises to always have a pair of oars or an auxiliary motor. I think this is OK if you have main motor trouble in a calm Lake or River, as it will get you home. I'd suggest that for bar crossings you need your main motor, and if its not working please don't try and cross on an auxiliary motor.
Excellent thanks😊
got my shades on, im ready to cross the BAR !!
Grazie , bel video.
if this guy does one for kawhia ill be very happy, he knows his stuff
ryan davey Hey Ryan, awesome thanks for the feedback, I'll definitely pass it on to Mat. With the Kawhia bar we run courses with Coastguard Northern Region. You can register with Coastguard Northern Region to do that course www.coastguard.org.nz
thanks
Outbound should I gun it between waves, slowing down as I approach the next wave? The rationale is that I am in the "danger zone" for the minimum length of time. Right or wrong?
Does this pertain to kayaks, or more so boats?
Do you have any info about how to trim your vessel?
What's a normal wave speed then?How much power do you need?
Do all harbours have a bar?
Just watched the film "Finest hours" so have learnt a lot. I hadn't heard of them before.
How many different kinds of bahs are there?
The surfer was out there no worries!🤙
Good info, especially don't turn around once your committed.
yeah good advice good vid do lot west coast central crossing should be mandatory for the west coast ask for local knowledge u cant beat it !
so that's why they call local knowledge "sore dick" - you can't beat it! LOL
We always learned to ride the back of the wave coming in ( not front like a surfer) and you'll be fine. Try to stay out of troughs and away from the face ( front) of wave coming in.
When does the water get dippah and cama?
Why would you not have a sea anchor? In the event of losing power, deploying one will keep nose to the surf and prevent broaching. Seems a no-brainer. Am I missing something?
Check the bar: ICE, BEER, CROWN ROYAL,
Check the boat: 1/4 tank of fuel, old battery, bent prop, short 1 life vest.
Oh, and some leaking stuff from the engine.
all set.
Make sure your passengers are all hung over from the night before, sleeping on the boat only waking up every five minutes to vomit over the side
And there is no drogè, the anker line is chafed. Not to mention your extended seat is lose and couldn't find the lanyard.
Good education
I am glad I bought a Stabicraft!
When I can I try to have a little reserve in the throttle. In case I need a little extra push... Yea, Bars deserve a lot of respect.
I am from the USA & live in Michigan. We get some rough conditions on the great lakes & found this video very interesting & informative. Those bars you have for crossing from the videos on them I have seen are brutal. Are conditions on the great lakes is the further out you go the rougher it gets most of the time. Lake Erie is the worst per wave size. Because it is so shallow the waves are very close together with a cross chop most of the time. After doing research for a few years wanting to buy a boat, I decided to get a boat to do my fishing with on the great lakes from a New Zealand boat manufacturer. Not a big boat could not afford bigger. But bought a stabicraft 1650 fisher & have had it out in some rough conditions & performs great. Is that a older stabi in the video?
I don't know but I will tell you this. It seems most American boat manufacturers have droopy bows and open bows. They are just water scoops. They are not made for the open ocean. What you have is a safe sea boat and thank you for buying one of them. Your family is safe.
@@EnglishLawyer That's because most boats in the United States are are for lakes and much smaller than the Great Lakes the Great Lakes are like Mini oceans.
Step 1: Do everything in slow motion, it just plain looks cooler.
Get independent trim tabs ?
With respect to sailboats, is there another video you recommend watching? Sailboat engines don't tend to have the HP that powerboats do.
Most sailboats will pop back up again :p
What kind of boat would one need to cross a very dangerous bar, safely. I mean without a lot of drama.....size, hull, construction, engine, etc
Stabicraft
My experience in a V-hulled boat is power to the right amount, into the wave at the slightest angle
+Martin Blackmore Would it be more safe with a catamaran boat to cross a bar
Glory boys is Coast guard name . What happens when CG get damaged or sunk and there is no other form available for rescue other than private boats and a ticketed skipper available to take the helm . The ticketed skipper is not allowed to take an unsurveyed boat out . He has to watch them die from Hyperthermia or drown all because Coast Guard are Glory boys . Check this out.
check your fuel filters because the shaking might clog them quite fast...
A good reason for double ended inboard boats.
that boat looks like a 'stabicraft', those boats kick ass
Nice, do you also have advice for slower boats ( sailing boats?)
A sailing boat generally won't be going over that type of bar harbour anyway because of their draft.
Also remember a general rule is that a 1 foot wave will break in 3 feet of water 2 - 6, 3 - 9 et cetera so you know the depth of water
you should know swell interval a larger interval means longer time intervals between sets. a 10 second and higher will have sets every 20 min. on average.
We used to avoid the bar by rowing out directly from a surf beach. much safer if done right start motor once beyond surf (smaller boat than these of course) coming back in row in backwards when the wave overtakes you just stop the boat then row forwards over the wave.
John Edwards There is no way you would be rowing a boat out through the surf here
The same waves they are encountering at the bar are the same waves breaking in the surf zone
Thanks.. u really think about other bar crossers safety.
what is the best way to deal with an engine failure as you are crossing the bar? what options sorry for aslng as am not a Kiwi but your advice will be much appreciated many thanks
Immediatly alert the coast guard and be prepared to abandon vessel. Use a flare if you need to. Hopefully you got your PFD on before crossing and have taken a sea rescue course so you dont go in panic when you hit the water.
After youve prepared all that, you should check the fuel line connections, battery status and connections if possible.
Rykehuss well, that's reassessing, lol :/
Hence the advice in the video about having your auxiliary motor ready. You will of course, have your PFD on, have briefed your crew on what to do and have prepared a drogue before you got into this situation. Hence you need to quickly get the drouge into the water to help keep the boat from broaching. This will hopefully give you more time to find a solution and put out a distress call. Don't panic. Think about how to get beyond the breaking waves without broaching. Use the anchor and feed the line out. On the other end, tie a rope to a cooler/esky/chilly bin as a drogue to pull you away from the anchor and off the breaking waves. Feed the anchor line out. Use the auxiliary to help. Use an oar like a rudder to steer the boat down the waves. Or one oar each side flat against the hull like twin keels, if your crew knows what they are doing. Fire a flare. Make a mayday call. Think. Act. Stay low to keep the center of gravity down. Hopefully you just bought yourself some minutes. Maybe more. Methodically check the fuel line and common points of failure etc for the main motor. A warm engine must have stopped for a reason. Buy time. The longer you can stay 90 degrees to the waves the more chance you have of making it back inside the bar.
I've been in a similar situation, with waves pushing us towards rocks. I managed to control the situation long enough to, temporarily stabilize us with the anchor, send off a flare, saved one weakened crew member, while the auxiliary motor and other "tricks" gradually worked us off. We had already saved ourselves by the time help arrived. Only thing we lost was an anchor and some rope.
Think. Prioritise.
Use your seamanship.
Not exactly the same but has similarities, the technique we used sailing Finns (single handed Olympic class sailing dingy) off-shore Durban when coming ashore onto a beach with breaking waves was as follows: Come in to just outside the first line of breakers and turn the boat facing out to sea. Remove the rudder and grab the painter (the rope attached to the bow) and jump over-board. Keep the bow facing out to sea and swim the boat towards the shore, giving the boat a shove on every wave and basically surf it in backwards using yourself as a drogue. Works every time and believe me Durban waves are pretty big. The critical thing is never to allow the boat to broach and be side-on to the wave.Depending obviously on the size of boat, if I had engine failure I would try the same technique coming back I over a bar.
A good tip for all open ocean boats, if at all possible, is to have DUAL ENGINES, for safety. In my area of the world, this is a golden rule. If one conks out or gets flooded...ooopps.
Not everyone can afford it mate but you arent wrong
is this a StabiCraft Boat?
It's a StabiCraft for sure. They look like Transformers. I saw a bright Blue one the other day. :-)
I want to try this in a jon boat
You need to be square to the waves going out especially.
Dont go to slow otherwise you loose all control,
Better to be a faster than too slow.
They gave good advice, never ever try and turn back,
if it starts to look scary going out, keep going and gun it, you can smash through the waves if you have got speed, if you are too slow you will get picked up by the wave go backwards and capsize.
Better to have a bit more speed than not enough. Slow down and yr toast!!!
have some off long island NY.
I think it's safer to go fishing in the harbour with Nathan and Milan 😂😂
"there are 3 types of bars:
dangerous
very dangerous
extremely dangerous"
Type 4: MOTHERFUCKING INSANE
@@homefront3162 🤣
DO turn on the bar if you are a rib, ski fast tinny you can pick your way through no problems.... mostly😂
This is for the birds..in Chicago we har bar racing all the time
Hold my beer!
the bar.and shallow water near the bar really dangerous.
Friend and I crossed the bar in a canoe. Police made us take canoe out of water and forbade us to try it again. It was a very hairy ride. Didn't want to try it again.
aand remember, when you laaand, if crocodiles don't get y' the spiders will.
That's Oz, mate, not New Zealand.
Been through a few bars. U stay past 3am you get thrown out. Lotta lady’s ther too
How would one do this in a sailboat??
Don't cross a bar in a sailboat. Full stop. I'd look for every other possible option before even thinking about it.
If it was my only hope AND I could raise the keel AND I had a multihull AND it had a powerful engine and all sails furled AND it was high tide AND it was very calm AND the drouge was ready. Well.... then I'd ask, why can't you sail further up the coast to somewhere more realistic?
Well listen here skipper, I throttle through my thoughts. IF it's to bad I abandon ship at the first rock I go home and tell the wife a Tornado hit out of nowhere and I'm lucky to be alive and I'm stressed out so please make dinner early. I think you should give the pirates safety classes because I watched them on the news and I don't think there Aware of the Ocean currents.
Something here remains me Wilson
6:19 You're welcome
I thought it was “If in doubt, still go out, but be more careful and put your life jackets on”
Sorry to be a pest but I m from Canada and the governement boating course tells everyone to cross at 45 degrees for large waves but I notice you always cross at 90 degrees and that is what i was always taught to avoid a broach situation. Could you please explain who is right or wrong (I am sure you are right) and your video is actually showing exactly what i read in a book on boat handling in rough water and its a fantastic video (the book just showed pictures llol)
borntosurf2 If you are 45' to the wave and the wave starts to break, there's a possibility that the lip of the wave will catch the bow and side of your boat and turn you around and then maybe capsize.
Go Square to the wave plenty of speed and as you go over the wave button off the throttle, then get some speed again for the next waves.
Hi David, thank you so much for explaining exactly why, i just hope your post helps other people as well because i had to view a lot of instructional videos to be sure the Canadian governemnt advice is WRONG for very large waves.....MUCH APPRECIATED and recently on lake ontario i was experimenting in medium waves with a margin of safety and the angle of 45' seemed to be just asking for trouble
borntosurf2 In open waters where waves arent breaking 45' is sometimes as comfortable as you can get.
But crossing bars you will end up upside down!
lol aw okay but we have a small boat 18 feet wtih a closed bow and to us even small waves are a bit of a menace...i windsurf and sail on bigger waves than the motor boat can handle it seems....once or twice i ve had waves break over the bow and hit the windscreen or i would have filled up with water in a bowrider or open deck boat so thanks again for all the info.....45 degrees does seem the most comfortable but wow she rocks.....lol...scary
Running into an inlet is a high risk
I’ve seen several day boats capsize when the rudder and prop are exposed and the skipper has no control of his vessel. An out bound tide adds to wave height and this condition can be deadly. Small boats overloaded with family and friends should not venture out and consider an inland water trip instead.
New Zealanders like a good baa baa.
I am from California, I need phukking Closed Caption
Lol if in doubt just give full throttle and hold on
Why build a harbor where there's a bar? Just build it up the coast a bit, eh?
LazlosPlane lol, it's NZ mate. The harbours aren't man made, they are natural. Many small fishing villages are built inside those harbours because the coast is exposed to some very wild weather. The bars will form anywhere huge volumes of water flow out of a harbour.
Just send it.
why would I want to assist a bar ! what is sifly? what is a skupper !
You forgot to emphasise that it is important to remain on or close to the back of the wave that is ahead of you
Bugger that, I'll just fish in the harbour.
So ! The moral here is , there is no substitute for cubic capacity !!
***** Grunt is your friend on bar crossings
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so Matt a pro would not wear gumboots
A boat to have would help.
maebeach mas
Did done boat to do what was did.
Noice job then, always look for keeping up that spirit.
maebeach mas is
The swells there are INSANE why would anybody go out on anything less than a submarine lol.
Here in California, the harbors are so mellow you can take a kayak out past the bar pretty much 365