One Guitar, One Amp, No Pedals Challenge - Dan Vs Mick
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Back to basics with a super simple rig - what will they choose?
Welcome to the show! Like it or loathe it, there remains a kind of noble dignity associated with the simplicity of a guitar-cable-amp rig. No fancy pedals, no cheating with MIDI and no other complication to interrupt the pure musical flow of self-expression.
Or at least that’s how a lot of people see it.
In this episode then, we grab that particular nostalgic chestnut by the horns by choosing just One Guitar & One Amp to see if we can cover a range of tones. And while we’re at it, how about we forget about channel switching and multi-mode amps too?
Enjoy the show!
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Pedals and stuff in today’s video
• Echo-Fix EF-X2
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• Free The Tone FT-2Y Flight Time
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Interesting bits and go-to sections
0:00 Hello & The Rules
1:00 Mick’s Amp Choice?
2:55 Mick’s Guitar Choice?
4:20 Guitar setup issues
7:42 Dan’s Choices
10:05 Back to the studio - amp reveal
12:25 Guitar reveal
15:05 Let’s plug in
16:45 Dan’s funky clean tone
17:40 Mick’s funky clean tone
21:13 Dan’s crunchy rhythm tone
24:10 Mick’s crunchy rhythm tone
27:00 Dan’s solo sound
29:25 Dan’s pick dynamic range
30:00 Mick’s solo sound
33:00 A new challenge flies in!
34:18 Two Changes Each?
35:10 Dan’s new tone
38:55 Mick’s new tone
42:35 Can Dan get cleaner?
46:50 Why are we doing this anyway?
49:37 Dan plays Mick’s rig
Guitars in this video
• PRS DGT - Mick’s video here: • The Brothers Landreth ...
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
Amps in this video
• Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue with standard speaker
• Vox AC15 C1 with Celestion G12M Greenback
• Two Rock TS1 50w 1x12 combo with TR1265B speaker
• Matchless C30 Head & 212 ESD with one Celestion G12M Greenback and one Celestion G12H Anniversary
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also just want to share this here with the TPS family: have an audition for a band next week, first time playing out after couple years of depression. I am so stoked
Enjoy that! Let it be what it is - a step rather than a destination. Best to you!
Have fun!
Hope you have a blast!!! ❤
Have fun, that’s what it’s all about!
That's great to hear! I've been debating getting back into live playing myself, it's been almost 10 years for me now eek! Good luck & have fun!
This "back to basics" episode really goes to show what has always made TPS so fantastic: the deep respect, mutual admiration, and camaraderie between Dan and Mick, their truly vast understanding of tone, and most of all, consistently inspired guitar playing. Good Lord, these gents can play.
Dan + Tele + Vox AC15 = I could listen to that all the day long.
"...you're a Hudson Broadcast away from glory there." Best line of the show. I think any guitar and amp are one Hudson Broadcast away from glory, Mick. Great episode.
I bought a Broadcast and hated it...found it really raspy and unpleasant. Maybe very amp/volume dependent....beautifully made though.
@@plantagenant I’m so glad someone else also had this experience- I thought I must have been going mad. Sold it on immediately as it did nothing for me 🤷♂️
@@cinnamonstreet80sband60 I've got a Hudson Sicecar sounds fucking terrible. But yeah beautifully made. There no facility on it to do anything with the midrange - Which it absolutely critically needs. I can make it a bassy fuzz or a wasp in a jam jar kid's metal tone but it cannot sound good (with my gear). I use Marshalls and my lead pickup is a 500T, I have just about every Marshall head from the '80s on and the Sidecar is awful with all if them. It'd take a lot to get me to try another Hudson product. I reckon it was R&Dd with PAF type pickups and some super neutral amp. It's poor design not to build in adequate tone sculpting tools. I'm using an MXR '78 Badass (shit name) and a Wampler Sovereign, stacked - that does it! Alone, either sounds really good
@@cinnamonstreet80sband60 I really relate to this, I try any pedal and get really different results to demos. I use Marshalls which is fairly typical, But I use a Gibson Les Paul Custom with a 500T wired straight to the output. Most pedals seem to be voiced around PAFs and super neutral amps. Some demos are so stupid. I watched one about distortion the other day and the lad used single coils through the whole vid. What a goon. I watch demos to get an idea if a pedal *might* be good and to compare between pedals, but never really know what I've got until it's under me foot. I have a Hudson Sidecar. SO CRAP (for me)!
I played a Princeton on 8 and no pedals for 3 years, im back on a normal board now but it made me a much better player and helped me truly understand tone and dynamics. and how to deal with soundmen!
Jeff beck loved that amp for those reason s
I just got a princeton with the 12" jensen alncio and love it. I've been up to 5.5 with it, lol. I'll have to try 8. :)
This challenge is like going back to basics. Rediscovering the foundations, if you will.🤘🏽
Yah that’s kinda the point of it. Cheers!
Why do ya build me up. Buttercup baby.....
I fear my approach ❤would have been 1. take Vox 2. Hoon gain 3. ride volume for clean bits 4. save fee towards a treble booster. Wouldn‘t do for thrash, but i‘m more of a blackgaze guy anyway (hope i‘ve remembered that correctly, but have also read some Bel Hooks, though representing the oppositional gaze in noise rock may be a stretch).
@@ThatPedalShow C'mon, you and I know most guitarists haven't got a clue. Keep 'Peddling' lol...Rock n' roll.
I thought micks amp had reverb.
52 minutes of TPS...can't tell you how much I needed this hour of escape right now. Thanks so much for the great content guys.
Love it! The challenges are my absolute favorite, please make more of them in 2023!
Agreed, I love the challenges😀
+1 ❤️
Agreed
That pedal show without a single pedal.
I see what you did there,
Dan and Mick, Brilliant as always 🎉
That Show
SO cool that Mick does the whole setup on camera and talks us through the prognosis.
Warning! Both these guys are EXTREMELY skilled and knowledgeable. If you think that you can go out and get the same guitars and amps, and do this... you're missing a lot. A great deal of what you're experiencing is the talent of both these guys. A lot of what you're hearing comes from the skill and tone coming from their experienced fingers. This is a great video! I loved it.
Thank you Roberto!
They make it look so easy 😆
Speak for yourself mate.
@@twerpeater I am... they are AWESOME!
My board power supply broke down on a festival gig the other day. I totally managed to get through the gig with the provided Marshall JTM45 and my Ibanez RT650 (almost Andy Timmons model) with HSH configuration (and treble bleed). I even played one of my best gigs, not being distracted by effects and pedals.
I haven’t really watched this channel in awhile, my interest in new effects ebbs and flows, but I’m glad I’m watching this one!
I love that Dan's face for the first third of this video was full-on "Optimistically waiting to hear the diagnosis"/lol. And, hey, thank you to whomever submitted this idea. Oddly, I've always wondered what Dan and Mick would pick for a setup without pedals, but was absolutely certain that it'd be too far off-brand. Wonderful video, gentleman.
Well it's about bloody time. You blokes love to make this job so over complicated. Just add a Tuner Pedal and some Delay (if you want) in the back end and you're totally sorted. Rock n' roll.
Imagine my surprise when Dan went for a tele into a vox.... 🤣 He's a truly wise man!
Im sorry but Dan + Red + VOX AC15 = everything I want to be when I grow up. I understand the volume argument. But DAMN
Red has that magic...DGT was great at lead levels..every stage Red shined
This concept is something I love doing occasionally if I feel like I’m not pushing myself playing-wise. Nothing to hide behind so you’ve got to be on which is great! Best version I’ve had of this was a sit-in jam at a friend of mines birthday, who happens to be a collector. So it was a 1960 335 into a dimed small Supro. One of the best live sounds I’ve ever had! Volume and Tone controls on the guitar all night 🔥
Great episode guys, happy new year to the TPS crew!
While I see the flexibility of pedals, I think this is the best overdrive sound I’ve heard from you guys in a long time.
The MARSHALL VINTAGE MODERN is great for that purpose. It is a single channel especially designed to be played with the guitar volume knob. The master volume (PPIMV) is incredibly good, the amp has a good all round reverb and large tonal capabilities. Awesome topic and video, thank you!
yeah, that's kind of what I thought, marshal makes a lot of good for all genres kind of amps.
This episode completely validates the concept of the wet/dry rig. My everlasting thanks to Mick and Dan for setting me on that path. I will never go back!
Hoooray!
Always a blast to watch you guys on a Sunday morning, coffee in hand! Wishing you the best 2023, cheers from Canada.
Timely as ever, gents. Watching this while dialling in my wet/dry rig for the next set of gigs. While not quite as restricted as this fab TPS challenge video in terms of devices, I’m using a small board that has forced me to make some grown-up effect choices, and is also ensuring that I get to know the handful of pedals on it in much more detail than usual (and raid the existing pedal cupboard every week to make tweaks, which is a great pleasure in itself). Wishing you both a productive and happy 2023.
I knew,even before I pressed play,that Mick would choose the DGT! It's the most versatile guitar ever and I'm so happy I got mine after seeing yours! :)
I suspected so too, and desperately want one for myself!
I was hoping for the 335.
We hear with our brains and our hearts. I am sometimes in awe of Dan’s willingness to hear the good in tones. Not that it didn’t sound great-so many terrific sounds-but Dan clearly goes looking for the best in everything. It’s humbling.
You guys are so much fun to watch! Not only do you come up with some amazing tones, but your playing is exceptional. Thanks again for doing your show..
I love this, and you guys, more than I can say. Happy New Year, Lads!! Cheers!!!
Are you now renaming to: "That Show"🤠
Happy new year!
There is no thing without nothing.
My rig was an Esquire straight into a cranked Carr Rambler for a couple of years.
Playing with such a simple rig gives you nothing to hide behind and directly connects you to the music and the audience. I think everyone should at least try a simple rig out, even just to practice on. It did wonders for my musicianship.
Haven't played live for a while but I agree...plus a lot of pedal effects just get lost in the mix and there's the added anxiety of the blasted things going wrong!
Im the same, my home amp an what I grab for a jam is my is my Cornell Traveller 5
No effects at all and no place to hide
Agreed, gigged semi pro for years and what you’ve shared maps. I was running a CS Strat into a Mesa Lonestar. Nothing to hide behind but TONE!
Same boat😊 Esquire and deluxe reverb point to point build here. I sometimes need a Bad bob boost to kick it for some more dirt. Simple and great sounding rig🎉
Finally, some realistic clean tones coming from a working amp. Anybody can overdrive an amp. But taking it from clean to overdrive like you guys did was so practical informative and real. Just like BB King, Buddy Guy Eric Clapton etc. Great work guys! 🎸Get out that Fender champ while you're at it.
Happy New Year! Grabbing a coffee and settling in for some much needed tones and shenanigans.
Brilliant episode!!! I gigged a strat through a Marshall for years without a single pedal. It’s scary…until you gig and you just play. So freeing!
That Deluxe Reverb paired with that DGT is heavenly. Well done boys.
This was so much fun!!! The Christmas spirit lingering into the New Year! May you two both be blessed deeply for decades to come!!!
Wow. You both sound totally ready to go! Completely loved this. Just killer and how many gigs have been done through the ages. I gave it a go here - and it was fun. But, I already hooked my pedal board back in. LOL! Happy New Year. Happy to see you today!
Loved the complexity in it's simplicity. Very much the Joe B. constantly quoting "all the pedals you need are right here! (pointing to his volume and tone knobs)". Loved your takes on it, and the adjustments made. Although just two, the amount of wideness and depth both of you added was pretty incredible (also funny both of you went for delay). Thanks guys. As always, ear opening!
This is actually now one of my favorite episodes. Brilliant. We’ll done
The genuine stress that Dan expresses at 7:55 made me chuckle a little hahaha
What an awesome shootout/rundown. Thanks guys!
Great choices and great playing (as usual). This is quickly becoming one of my favorite guitar channels. Thanks boys!
ONE amp and NO pedals? No problem! Solution: Boss KATANA! 😄
I was so happy the second you picked up the DGT. I absolutely love that guitar. It’s so incredibly versatile.
that matchless tone at the end there, sumptuous , happy new year folks
Not quite halfway through and loving it. Just don't make a habit of this, OK? Happy new year to the TPS family.
Dynamic Vox Tele sound is insanely versatile, absolutely solid and ideal. That amount of control from a pick is vital. Fender PRS is unreal, the compression and break up are perfect.
Best of both worlds, you guys nail it.
Dan and his sonic blue strat for me tho great playing all around
That NO Pedal Show! It was fun seeing you guys get out of your respective comfort zones. Great episode. Thanks!
The look on the guys face on the right when they said no pedals, hahahahahah!
Very nice new year palette cleanser. Think this is a very healthy place to kick off 2023 from - getting back to basics but also thinking about reacquainting ourselves with gear we already have and could get fresh use from. Anyway gents, wishing you all the best for this new year and hoping it brings you much cheer and fulfilment.
Late 70s Les Paul Custom into a Friedman Twin Sister… done deal!
Two identical channels with options and individual master volumes. Beautifully designed master volumes that sound great at any volume. Super open and dynamic… it’ll take you anywhere perfectly!!
I would really love to see a tour of that studio! It's amazing!
After your recent Marshall video, life has been just unbearable until I picked up my new (to me) JTM45. I've never had a NMV Marshall before, but such an amazing thing, glorious thick overdrive, but the clean up on the guitar volume is just beautiful. I would maybe struggle on this challenge without some reverb, but I was amazed at how little I was using any other pedals last night. It was just a joy to play. The one thing that that surprised me the most (as you identified in your video) was how effects like reverb were usable even when it was well into overdrive! The whole experience has been a revelation. Thanks for single-handedly obliterating my finances, I've enjoyed every decibel of it.
Ha! Yeah, sorry about that. The more we do it, the more we know we'll always love great guitars plugged into great amps. It's sooooooo much more than the spec sheet would suggest. Congrats!
THOROUGHLY enjoyed this. As a DGT player myself, very pleased that Mick showed how versatile that guitar can be. Do more of these types of challenges, please. Perhaps, one where you find the best/most versatile channel switching amps and compare that to a similar single-channel with an overdrive pedal. Thanks, as always for this content
Awesome episode guys and thanks so much for everything you do on this channel. It's always a joy to tune in. Have to say I'm feeling the gravitational pull of the Fender Deluxe Reverb after watching this, but regarding versatility in one amp I still worship my Marshall Jubilee 25/50 combi with 3 channels: 1) clean, 2) gain (via footswitch) and 3) a transparent overdrive crunch (from pulling out the volume knob). Really useful.
Such a great episode. Your playing is incredible. A perfect explanation of compromises and solutions
Thank you Mark, very kind!
Today's show title: 'No Pedal Show'!! Great stuff Mick & Dan, thank you both. 👍🎸🎶
The first thing I thought of initially was if tape delays or rack mounted effect units count as pedals.
That was fun guys! good start to 2023! thank you, see you(digitally speaking) on Monday!
I could watch you guys futz around with tone and solos and riffs all day long. Love this one.
Love the challenges... you should definitely do a 2022 challenge. Both build a board using only pedals that came out that year.
Then a you've got a episode planned for every year :)
There are some high end artifacts in Dan’s solo sound that make me want to die from joy.
Possibly the best vids you guys have made... excellent playing, excellent musicianship. Thnx
It’s actually kind of unbelievable how good your rig sounds Mick!! I come back to this video at least once a month to hear it!
Man, I felt like I haven’t seen this show since…last year! Haha! (Sorry, bad dad joke)! Glad you guys are back. Happy New Year to TPS! The best show on CZcams! 🎉 👏
This is like the World Cup Final: Dan wasn’t in the game for the first 80 minutes then took it to the wire. Great episode.
Loved to see the pedal show with no pedals! Thanks for a different focus, great job, really enjoyed it.
Very nice, guys. I vividly and fondly remember the days of little to no pedals❤
Semi surprised that Dan didn’t go for a Hamstead - reverb, trem and footswitchable mid-boosty-pokey goodness. Plus it just sounds insanely good!
Picked up a Fender Mustang 1 version 2 for hosting open mic/jams and ended up getting two more. Twin setting for cleans, Bassman for dirt. Sounds amazing, 100 decibels or more on 5 so it stays at 4 or less. Won’t kill you if it’s stolen. Jump in a cab and go without needing to open the trunk because it’s small and light. Takes pedals well too! Leave your valuable amps at home.
What use are amps at home?! The world has gone mad.
@@ThatPedalShow my studio is at home. I also use them at real shows/performances. For jams or situations where I need a compact rig to cover a lot of tones it’s a no brainer. I’m actually liking my cheap amps even more though these days so my amp collection is exactly that, an investment in historical pieces.
I hardly ever comment, but have to say this was so inspiring. Awesome sounds from great guitars and great amps - but also, clearly awesome musicians who know how to play really well. loved it - going to get my amp out, no pedals and just play. Thank You.
Happy New Year, gents. Loved this episode. Beautiful playing. (which becomes prominent, what with no pedals or distractions) The concept which sticks with me is that pedals are incredible fun but it's great to be reminded that touch, dynamics, mood are the important bits. I have six very dissimilar guitars and two very dissimilar amps. Sometimes the most fun is to pick a combination, make a finger style loop and play lead over the top of it, all clean. It's good medicine; for me, anyway. Cheers, guys.
Another great episode of That ' ' Show
That cranked Deluxe Reverb is one of the best tones on earth!!
glorious tonez in this episode!! absolutely amazing !!👍
Great episode as always guys. Interesting thing Mick said about the 'day of things I don't normally like' - it's interesting that as musicians (mainly guitarists), as soon as we find we need to be flexible, we start to make compromises...
If it’s a small gig Dans sound with a PA would be stellar! Both sounds are classic and great! Great challenge!
Coming from a twin guitar ensemble , would be interesting to hear both of you play a complementary guitar piece.
Thanks for these videos, guys! I believe it is really beneficial for a lot of us to see, that even though you guys have a lot of bucket list gear that most of us don't have, not to mention, a lot of it, it's nice to see that some of that gear is truly, very specialized gear, and that you really needed to get "back to basics", and that those "basics" included the everyday normal gear that most of us have access to, and really drives home that we don't need the "unobtainium" to be good guitar players capable of playing 99% of the music that we would be capable of playing any given gig. Appreciate your approach to helping your community of followers. Thank you.
There is wisdom here. I hope - I really, really really hope (Mick here) - that we’ve always espoused that nobody ‘needs’ the unobtanium. We like it, we enjoy it, but to peruse it per se is madness. If your journey leads you there, as ours has, so be it. But please never think that it’s necessary for music or expression. Cheers!
I loved this so much ❤ id love to see a video of you trying to find your favorite tone with cheap pedals
That No Pedal Show! Neat idea.
I'm like 8 minutes in and I already LOVE this episode!
Love the minimalist stuff. Now do two, three and four pedal rigs!
Brilliant! Well done. Great show boys!
No video has made me appreciate guitar pedals more than this one, thank you guys 🙏
Hello and Welcome to that No Pedal Show! Dan here, Mick here!
All that pedals in the background, and then a no pedal show 😀. Brilliant!
Great show guys!!
Ah yes, I remember the evolution now (voila an industry is born). Great job from both of you, I enjoyed this episode immensely. That outro....rig and playing...excellente. The Victory V140 Super Duchess (or even the V40, less headroom) popped into my head, one of the best "bang for the buck" amps out there (IMHO).
I never would have guessed that Dan would pick a Telecaster
🤣
He what?!!!!😮
He’s goes to 11, what a great guitarist
Dgt reverb has it. That reverb amp is. Awesome. I almost got a old one.Bit have vibro king modded. So I got a fargen. Omg that amp is a dream
Now, I'm only still at the funk-part, but the prs just got its backside kicked by the tele. Though admittedly, Dan seemed more apt at / comfortable with playing funk. And funk is very much in the hands for a large part.
That's really good ! Congratulations !
Anyway, my 3 years old daughter thaught Dan was Santa playing guitar 🤣🤣
Really enjoyed this, they both sounded great! Love that PRS 👌
EVH 5150 III EL34 50w 2x12 Combo. It's a 3 channel amp with Reverb and Master Volume. It also comes with a Footswitch which I can access the 3 channels and reverb. I own this amp by the way. And my 2004 50th Anniversary Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster. I bought it Nov 2004. It's HSS so DiMarzio Area 67 in the neck, Area 61 in the middle, and Motor City Pickups 2nd Degree Black Belt Humbucker in the bridge. I have a 3 way switch for the humbucker to change the wiring for Series, Coil-Split, and Parallel. Floyd Rose Rail Trail, LSR nut, Locking tuners, mahogany body in transparent crimson red finish, medium maple neck, rosewood fretboard, abalone dot inlays, 22 Stainless Steel Frets (6000 fret wire), matching black pickguard pickups knobs 5 way switch tip and headstock, master volume, bridge pickup tone, neck and middle pickup tone, DiMarzio black Strap, and last but not least Vertex Input Cable. This setup allows for anything and everything I would ever want to play.
Fender Deluxe Reverb and Vox AC15 w/Greenback are the two amps that I own, and I love them both dearly. When I set them up in a stereo config it is a whole auditory herd of magical unicorns. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I have a DR and AC30 going to try this!
I don't recall another episode that better demonstrates how good you two are at playing guitar. It appears that years of That Pedal Show have culminated in the mildly ironic result that you may sound better without any pedals. 😉
Ha! Everyone sounds better without pedals don’t they?! :0) Erm, don’t tell anyone, but it ain’t about guitars or amps or pedals. It’s about VOLUME!
Important to note on that point that so many drive pedals are graded on how well they sound like an overdriven amp, n’cest pa? (Tuppence, natch)
@@ThatPedalShow As Josh Scott would say, ''Louder is more good."
Thanks so much for this. It made me go straight into my cranked AC10. Just wonderful.
Holy cow, the final iterations of your rigs made me actually laugh out loud! Sooooo good, gents!
Grrrreat episode!!!!! I would have chosen Tone King MKII with a strat…🤟🤟🎸🎸
You guys are sounding incredible! Dan, your Matchless is out of this world sweet sounding. Mick, you must use your PRS DGT more often! I can recognize you only by your fabulous tone with a Strat plugged in a Two Rock, Fender or Marshall amp, but that DGT suits you like a champ and sounds heavenly!
Thank you kindly!
Absolutely loved it! Though of course it's got me gassing for an AC15 again - but before that I need a humdinger so I can try wet-dry and a 3-2-1 for live shows to make switching between my two guitars smoother and more professional looking. You guys keep finding interesting questions, and continue to suprise yourselves and us with the answers - that's what makes these shows great!
I've been doing the ONE amp/ONE guitar thing for many years now. I absolutely love it. I play in a cover band that plays 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s Rock, Pop, and Blues. My amp of choice is a Fender BASSBREAKER 15 head and a cab loaded with a Celestion Creamback G12H-75 speaker. The guitar is either a SSS Strat or Tele.
My amp is set to maximum gain and I get all the different tones, from semi-clean to full dirty, by using the volume knob on the guitar.
No pedals or effects. Just a bit of Reverb on the amp.
Nice!
If I had to use just one guitar and one amp, I would go with the PRS Special Semi-Hollow with the Diezel VHX
1 guitar, 1 amp. For me, that's easy. Vox Valetronix or something similar that has modelling of amps and effects in one package. The guitar would be either a Strat in HSS form or a PRS 24/08 with coil tapping. Bases... covered. Oh and to whoever wrote the "Thank You Simon" note with my buy 2, get 1 free t-shirt box that arrived before Christmas, it meant more to me than you know. Have it beside my guitars and it picked me up in a bad day. Cheers folks.
This is no bad decision!
I have a VOX Valvetronic standing around for years besides some "real" tube amps. Every time i plug into the old VOX i think: "WOW it's a kind of a miracle how good it sounds" even my brain tells me the tube amps have to sound much much better, wich they don't 😁
Loved this! Like a long form answer to “one of those” VCQ questions.
I loved this episode. I’m heading off to plug my Tele straight into my AC15 and experiment some more. Thanks Mick & Dan.