A very useful comparison, thank you! Yes, this demo nicely shows the differences between point-sources (1st) and columns/line arrays (2nd). A point source (with all component radiators within 1/4th wave length distance!!) has a splendid definition, but projects less far than a column. The sound of a line array is much more subject to interferences and time delays which can lead to less defined sound. But they have more sensitivity, 3 dB each time you double the number of drivers. Add another 3 dB extra power to feed them and you'll conclude that they will carry a bit (or a lot) further.
Point source speakers will decrease in sound -6db every time you double the distance. With line arrays the decrease is only -3db. In many instances the line array can throw further. The other difference is that point source generally tend to have 90 degree horizontal coverage at best whereas most line arrays can cover 110 to 120 degrees. That's wider coverage. However I have noticed with my systems that the point source tends to have more in your face sound. The upfront part of the dancefloor tends to get hit with much louder sound. This can be desirable for loud music such as rock and hiphop.
For me you are comparing two different families of speakers from RCF. The NX I have the mk1 and I love them, I can do anything with them but I am very interested in the TT515 and TT808 as from what I saw from their website they suit me for a variety of application such as conference, gala dinners and I think even for a small DJ setups.
You are correct. I have to say that the NX32 and NX45 models sound more similar to the TT line then it may seem. The 515 and 808 are amazing little speakers. Keep in mind however that the SPL is limited so its important to figure out your exact application before making a large monetary commitment, since form factor and application if using as a sub and top combo is the same as an evox which is several times less expensive and faster to set up. Corporate, trade shows, product demos, art exhibitions, brand events are some of the applications I would use these for. For comparisons sake, an RCF NX910 or QSC K10.2 gets a lot louder then these.
Can you try db technologies es1203? It's a dual 12" semi horn loaded with 8x4" tops. 3 channel amplifier so you can split the tops and choose to play dual mono or stereo via dsp
Thanks for this video. You saved me the $ from buying the TT515’s. I can tell they lack the output that I personally would be looking for when comparing the two. I use to own the NXL24a, which I ended up selling for Bassboss DV 12’s and the TT doesn’t compare. The size is nice though. Probably great for small events but not an all around workhorse imo.
@@v-productions- I just got a pair in yesterday. Obviously they don't have the throw of my FBTs, but I needed something with better vertical coverage and less power for smaller acoustic shows. I didn't realize the padded case for these is designed to be used while the speaker is on the pole, which is a cool feature and gives you even more rain protection.
@@rayflexentertainment1545 RCF can be little more aggressive in the high mids than the FBT Vertus when you push them but that's easily fixed with EQ. Think I'll only be using the tt515 for fills from now on. Had the amp on one of them blow up on me during a gig taking the all the drivers out with it. RCF fixed the amp but the drivers are on backorder. Thinking of replacing them with a couple Ventis 206a for smaller gigs even though the coverage isn't as wide. They were great speakers but I'm not sure if I can trust them now
@@GKSounds1 Thank you so much. Do they both have the same detailed clear sound? (The reason I'm asking is because I actually was impressed of the detailed sound from the 515, but never listened to the T22. But note that when I Listened to the 515 it was crossed over together with the 808, so maybe both together made the magic.
@@yosefshkeidim5755 you’re welcome. They might sound little sharp but they won’t last front of TT22 …and I do TTW4A TT5A and I have nxl24 a-mk2s but I would still say TT22/25 great cabinets after TT5A
Hi Vadim, wondering what's your opinion. I have two nxl24a mk2 with one 8004as. We have a 400 people room with 40m long. Considering tt515a is not as loud as nxl24a. Do you think it's a good idea to have 2 of tt515a, mounted on ceiling, then another two half way about 20m down the room? Or better stick with the nxl24a? Thank you
40 metres is quite a long room. What I would do is get two more nxl24s mk2s and one more sub. Then you can mount two nxl24s one on top of the other on each side. If you have room, you can hang the additional nxl24s half way down the room and delay them through a processor or audio console. The 515s are amazing but their throw is definitely a lot smaller
@@v-productions- Thank you for your input. Forgot to mention that the room ceiling is not high, around 3m. No tiered elevated seating.. one nxl24a on a fly bar does not allow to put the speaker on angle, so the narrow 30° vertical coverage will be high on the ceiling, not targeted to the people...
I would say that they are absolutely not comparable. 2 x 808 stacked are surprisingly powerful, punchy and tight, but there is a limit to the amount of air that the tiny drivers can push. The 8004 - with enough units can power a festival for 1000s of people and the threshold is many times higher
All depends on budget, but I would say that 2 x 8004 subs and 2 x NXL24A mk2 column speakers like in the video would be excellent for mains. If budget allows, anything in the TT series would be excellent as well.
@@v-productions-how would you compare NX910 versus NXL24A mkii? I am currently using a pair of ART-910's but I found it a little harsh-sounding. Forum said NX910 is significantly warm-sounding than the ART's plastic box and tuned differently. However, that NXL24 is very appealing and neat set-up. Is NXL24's waaaay better than NX910?
A very useful comparison, thank you! Yes, this demo nicely shows the differences between point-sources (1st) and columns/line arrays (2nd). A point source (with all component radiators within 1/4th wave length distance!!) has a splendid definition, but projects less far than a column. The sound of a line array is much more subject to interferences and time delays which can lead to less defined sound. But they have more sensitivity, 3 dB each time you double the number of drivers. Add another 3 dB extra power to feed them and you'll conclude that they will carry a bit (or a lot) further.
Point source speakers will decrease in sound -6db every time you double the distance. With line arrays the decrease is only -3db. In many instances the line array can throw further.
The other difference is that point source generally tend to have 90 degree horizontal coverage at best whereas most line arrays can cover 110 to 120 degrees. That's wider coverage.
However I have noticed with my systems that the point source tends to have more in your face sound. The upfront part of the dancefloor tends to get hit with much louder sound. This can be desirable for loud music such as rock and hiphop.
For me you are comparing two different families of speakers from RCF. The NX I have the mk1 and I love them, I can do anything with them but I am very interested in the TT515 and TT808 as from what I saw from their website they suit me for a variety of application such as conference, gala dinners and I think even for a small DJ setups.
You are correct. I have to say that the NX32 and NX45 models sound more similar to the TT line then it may seem. The 515 and 808 are amazing little speakers. Keep in mind however that the SPL is limited so its important to figure out your exact application before making a large monetary commitment, since form factor and application if using as a sub and top combo is the same as an evox which is several times less expensive and faster to set up. Corporate, trade shows, product demos, art exhibitions, brand events are some of the applications I would use these for. For comparisons sake, an RCF NX910 or QSC K10.2 gets a lot louder then these.
Can you try db technologies es1203? It's a dual 12" semi horn loaded with 8x4" tops. 3 channel amplifier so you can split the tops and choose to play dual mono or stereo via dsp
Tt is better
A video of the 515 & the 808 be great to hear 🤩
This was a demo set. I will make a video when my own set comes in.
Nice side by side. Seemed like the 515 held its own though. RCF stuff in general is great.
Thanks for this video. You saved me the $ from buying the TT515’s. I can tell they lack the output that I personally would be looking for when comparing the two. I use to own the NXL24a, which I ended up selling for Bassboss DV 12’s and the TT doesn’t compare. The size is nice though. Probably great for small events but not an all around workhorse imo.
This was helpful, thanks! RCF seem to have made their own Meyer Ultra-X20
Yes, I believe the Meyer gets a little louder but I like the audio characteristics of the 515 better.
@@v-productions- I just got a pair in yesterday. Obviously they don't have the throw of my FBTs, but I needed something with better vertical coverage and less power for smaller acoustic shows. I didn't realize the padded case for these is designed to be used while the speaker is on the pole, which is a cool feature and gives you even more rain protection.
@@fiddleseth how do u compare them to the FBT? pls share your experience
@@rayflexentertainment1545 RCF can be little more aggressive in the high mids than the FBT Vertus when you push them but that's easily fixed with EQ. Think I'll only be using the tt515 for fills from now on. Had the amp on one of them blow up on me during a gig taking the all the drivers out with it. RCF fixed the amp but the drivers are on backorder. Thinking of replacing them with a couple Ventis 206a for smaller gigs even though the coverage isn't as wide. They were great speakers but I'm not sure if I can trust them now
everything is fine, but how do you stack 2 RCF nxl 24 mk2 on top of each other with this height?
@vproductions Thanks so much. I'm trying to decide between nx and the other tt's. Does the tt22 sound as good as the 515?
TT22 louder and much more commercial then the 515
@@GKSounds1 Thank you so much. Do they both have the same detailed clear sound? (The reason I'm asking is because I actually was impressed of the detailed sound from the 515, but never listened to the T22. But note that when I Listened to the 515 it was crossed over together with the 808, so maybe both together made the magic.
@@yosefshkeidim5755 you’re welcome. They might sound little sharp but they won’t last front of TT22 …and I do TTW4A TT5A and I have nxl24 a-mk2s but I would still say TT22/25 great cabinets after TT5A
Hi Vadim, wondering what's your opinion. I have two nxl24a mk2 with one 8004as. We have a 400 people room with 40m long. Considering tt515a is not as loud as nxl24a. Do you think it's a good idea to have 2 of tt515a, mounted on ceiling, then another two half way about 20m down the room? Or better stick with the nxl24a? Thank you
40 metres is quite a long room. What I would do is get two more nxl24s mk2s and one more sub. Then you can mount two nxl24s one on top of the other on each side.
If you have room, you can hang the additional nxl24s half way down the room and delay them through a processor or audio console.
The 515s are amazing but their throw is definitely a lot smaller
@@v-productions- Thank you for your input. Forgot to mention that the room ceiling is not high, around 3m. No tiered elevated seating.. one nxl24a on a fly bar does not allow to put the speaker on angle, so the narrow 30° vertical coverage will be high on the ceiling, not targeted to the people...
How do you compare total output of 808 lets say 2x808 to one 8004 i know that freq are lacking but output and the feel
I would say that they are absolutely not comparable.
2 x 808 stacked are surprisingly powerful, punchy and tight, but there is a limit to the amount of air that the tiny drivers can push.
The 8004 - with enough units can power a festival for 1000s of people and the threshold is many times higher
Thanks super helpfull did you compare the tt10a to 515a price wise they are the same weight similar
Do you think 2 x 8004 and 2x tt515 good for a 300 guest event?
@@djbeboent yes certainly. Depending on how the room is oriented, you will probably want additional fills. Respectively if there are speeches.
@@markodjorovic7481 I have the TT10a they go up to 130dB!
Eu preciso deste equipamento como posso entrar contacto
What setup would you recommend for a live band? Drums, bass guitar, guitar and vocals. For max 150/200 people
All depends on budget, but I would say that 2 x 8004 subs and 2 x NXL24A mk2 column speakers like in the video would be excellent for mains.
If budget allows, anything in the TT series would be excellent as well.
@@v-productions-how would you compare NX910 versus NXL24A mkii?
I am currently using a pair of ART-910's but I found it a little harsh-sounding. Forum said NX910 is significantly warm-sounding than the ART's plastic box and tuned differently. However, that NXL24 is very appealing and neat set-up. Is NXL24's waaaay better than NX910?
I want to have a sound system like that,
but what power... 😭
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