Thursday Captain vs President Boot: FIVE Differences You Should Know
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Not just the toecap! These two massively popular boots were the first ever released by Thursday Boot Company (The Diplomat moc toe was the third) and they're now some of the most ubiquitous shoes in New York City. A lot of dudes think the only difference worth noting when you're shopping for the two is the toecap but there are actually a few others I've noticed.
00:00 Intro
00:33 The Similarities
01:19 1. The Toecap
01:53 2. The Speed Hooks
02:42 3. The Widths
03:25 4. The Sole Options
04:04 5. The Leathers
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the toe cap isn't an extra layer at least according to Rose Anvil
when you cut the captain in half it reveals that there is in fact NO extra leather layer for toe protection. It is simply decorative.
someone watches rose anvil lol
Rose anvil ftw
Correction. Cap toe on the captain is not an extra piece of leather. It’s just for looks. Not a negative but in this case the faux cap toe is just asthenic. There’s a great CZcams video of one being cut in half to detail the build quality of Thursday’s but it does point that out. Hope that helps.
Rose Anvil is the knowledgeful maniac who cuts the good and bad shoes and boots in half.
Came here to confirm this.
Hello Nick. Love the review but I would like to point out that you might be mistaken about the toe cap being functional. I am pretty sure I saw a video of someone sawing in half the captain and the toe cap is actually not a second layer but a decorative single layer stitched from the outside.
Yep, just saw Rose Anvil's vid, not a true toe cap:
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Speed hooks or bust!
Yes! I love speed hooks too. So much easier to put on
@@Kudusole yeah, even my Oxford dress boot Carminas have speed hooks. Not sure why any boot wouldn’t have them.
@@drzaius844 I found that some people don't like it because the hooks catch on stuff
@@Kudusole yeah I’m not typically a fan… I make enough time to get what I need done so I’ll just tie my boots
I despise hooks 🪝
0:47 always impressed by that move 😂😂😂
Wow Nick, you packed a lot of info in a relatively short video, thanks!
Love your shows !! On my fifth boot and you help me from the beginning..thanks so very much NYC
Great comparison video of our classic lace-ups! You covered it all :)
You watch the video and don't correct the guy that your guys' toe cap isn't real? shady
@@Stridewise I have a pair, the leather didnt hold up very well in the top of the boot, can confirm the toe cap is fake
@@sonderevokingbuns I think the confusion is from is it two pieces of leather (yes) vs is it two layers on top of each other (no)
@@Stridewise two pieces of leather sitting flush up against each other is not a cap toe. People that expect durability, the purpose of the added cap of leather, may find themselves deceived.
Just to mention, Captains don't have an extra layer over the toecaps, you can check videos where the boots are taken apart.
Finally the video we all needed!
Great video, The Ridgeline looks great man! :)
That one legged squat was interesting. Impressive.
Thanks for this particular video. I had been trying to compare and contrast the two and you did it short and sweet. Big time help there, thanks. Highly useful video Nick. It should assist a lot of folks.
Pistol squat, difficult to do.
Great Breakdown. Captains for the Widths
I see that rogue territory supply jacket! Very sharp, been wanting one for months
My first pair of Thursdays was a burnt ginger captain and the texture/colour is awesome
Yess! Such a great colorway!
Thank you :)
Captains with stormking sole is my choice!
That's their most popular model these days!
Very nice video Nick. I never knew that there were so many differences between Thursdays’ Captain and President boots. Excellent presentation and definitely very informative and useful information. Hope all is well with you as the Country gets ready to celebrate its reopening! All the best!...Ed
I just bought myself two pairs of captain boots for the first time. One is brown and the other one is matte black. Super happy with the purchase. Such high-quality and it does not require a lot of breaking in. These boots are very comfortable from the start. Thursday company is doing a good job quality wise.
Did you win the fight against the machines?
How's the durability so far? Any issues? I've been looking through the amazon reviews and there seem to be a lot of QC issues? I do have mine coming in on Friday but just curious as to how yours are holding up so far. Thanks!
@@MexicanSniper11 Not. A. Single. Issue!
Literally, these are the best dress boots I’ve ever had or saw. I fucking love them. I’m dead serious. 10000% happy with the purchase!!! If anyone would put a gun to my head, I would still not be able to say anything negative about these boots. Three things that I was looking for: beauty of the design, quality, and comfortability. And they have it all. From day one, boots were so comfortable to wear, they feel so good. Did not require any breaking in. I bought brown ones, and matte black. Super super happy. You will not regret having them.
@@ohmyrufiohhh1303 fuck yea I did💪😆👍.
@@johnconnor8373 Thank you for the response! Got mine today and they are very nice looking! I tried one on real quick to see how they felt and they are stiff but i'm sure that's because of the leather. So it's just a matter of breaking them in. These are my first pair of boots so I wasn't quite sure what to expect but so far, aesthetically, they are very nice and no defects whatsoever like people on Amazon were saying. Very happy with the purchase so far! I'm surprised how comfortable they are other than the stiffness, they feel like some of my sneakers. I'll probably wear them around the house to break them in before I decide to take them to work and stuff. Thanks again!
Would you recommend wearing the captain boot for business casual attire?
Be nice to see a review on the cadet boot.
The Ridgeline looks great man!
OMG, Nick your reviews are so much better than anyone else on this platform! I almost fall asleep when watch some other reviews.
Thanks a lot man!
Straight to the point. Thanks, Nick!
Thanks for watching Alberto!
Is there a difference between the cadets and the captains other than the ankle height? I have one of each and to me they feel totally different but look very similar.
🤗I just bought the captain stormKing. In tabacco. Can't wait to stylem.
Awesome vid. Awsome style...🤙
Have fun!
Love your videos Nick. Speed hooks or bust all day every day!
Haha I used to think it didn't matter but I've been wearing Oak Street and Whites a lot this year and the lack of speed hooks is real annoying! Especially with a really meaty boot like Whites. With something like Thursday I don't think it matters so much bc it's not ultra thick leather
Which color from the president line would you say compliments neutral color outfits in the fall?
I am ordering my first (real) boot at the end of the year. What are recommendations? I love the Captains in brown but I am afraid they might be a bit too dressy for my more casual outfits.
I wear business casual at the office and in my free time i wear slim fit jeans with a shirt/overshirt.
Is the Captain in brown too dressy for this, are there other good versatile options in the same or other boot models? I am conserned the lighter colorways are too casual.
Would be great if you could make a video comparing waxed jackets 👍 thanks
I got the storm king sole I think it looks more work less office
Are the sizing the same between the two? I got a pair of Diplomat in 9 which fits 100% perfect but my President in 9 needs an insole to fit correctly (about .5 size big). I want to get a Captain next but don't want to need an insole!
I got the Brown Captains today, unfortunately left boot heel has a small crack at the edge. In the past similar small crack appeared on one of my boot and eventually the entire heel is fall off. Didn't take a chance with Captain, just returned on the day one. Pretty disappointment with the Thursday's QC.
Are the boots make a loud clicking noise when you walk on hard floor?
god damn those green matte's look so good
I ordered the safari color Captain. It’s arriving today!
oh nice! enjoy bro!
Do you know if the sizing recommendations are different? On the website, the Captain seems to want you to order a half size smaller. The President doesn't mention it.
I had stopped commenting on your videos as all I have to say is that I love your reviews.
Thanks Nick. My desire for more Thursday boots exceeds my budget, but I would love to add a President in one of the more refined, "dressy" leathers. I have a few Captains - started with signature brown and added the burnt copper and midnight suede. Also have a wingtip and black Chelsea. The traditional natural has always caught my eye in the President line-up, though some of the newer leathers look really sharp as well. Thanks for all of the great reviews. Cheers!
Hey i still don’t know which one is ment for which purpose ?
I want a shoes to wear in the city and hanging out in downtown ,parties and all
So which one should i buy ?
@@dhirajthakur7655 purely style choice. Personal preference. Which look do you prefer? I think the Captain is more versatile. The Captain in the standard leather, like brown, can dress up and down. IMO.
Thanks so much for your support :) Glad to have you on the Team. The Natural President has always been one of my personal favorites so I hope you give them a try!
@@dhirajthakur7655 All of Thursday’s line up are casual-business casual. I would not classify their most formal looking boots as proper dress boots. I recommend Thursday’s only be worn with non casual or textured pants such as jeans, chinos, casual suits or separates made from corduroy, flannel, tweed, mohair trousers are a go. Formal worsted wool trousers (typical 120’s and above, 3 season wool suit pants ) are very risky, lots of variables at play there, but a no go imo just to be safe. So yeah, any boot from Thursday’s line up a good for everyday casual wear, 99% of business, and date night. Just don’t try to pass them off as formal wear.
Subtle ankle mobility flex there 0:47 lol
Who makes the jacket you're wearing in this video?
Hey nick! I know you were on a waxed jacket kick and thought you should check out buck masons waxed jacket, really good quality and under 300!
Oooh good idea! I own about 4 Buck Mason henleys and wore my black one til it died, thanks for the tip
@@Stridewise of course! Also How is the fit on their Henley?? Loose or form fitting?
Are the shaft heights the same?
Rose Anvil just released a video on the captain, Not an extra layer of leather over the toe. Just decorative stitching
Right -- more like just an overlap at the stitching point, only single-layer on both sides of it.
You didn't say whether they have the same fit or different. I had some Captains and felt they kind of had a bind where the toe cap ends. I ended up returning them and getting the Chelsea which I love. I am tempted to try the President boot.
I said they had the same fit at the start!
Hmmm! Interesting you mention that, we've had very few people mention that feeling at the cap toe but for the most part they do fit the same. It might mean that you need a little more break-in time but if you decide to give the Captain another try let us know if you experience that again!
Surprised you prefer the chelsea over the captain, the captain seems more versatile especially for everyday wear.
Hi what do you recommend re: sizing. I've read different opinions about getting half a size down or not. e.g. I'm an Aussie/UK size 7, so what size would you suggest? If I went with half a size down that'd be the equivalent of 6.5 Aussie - I'd rather a boot that's slighter big than too small
So I'm like 11.7 on a Brannock, usually 11.5 is my true size but in Thursday I'm 11.5, I don't size down to 11 like I do in Red Wing
How on earth do you not have any creases at the front end of your boots? I just got my Vanguards in and already after a week of wear they've got massive creases in front where you flex as you stride. Did I miss something or is this normal? Did I get the wrong size?
How does the thursday boots compare to sagara?
I am thinking of purchasing a pair of these boots and am undecided which style to go for. I needed to email the company to get sizing advice, so added a question about the two styles mentioned here. I suggested they look the same other than the toe cap. The response was the president is a totally different boot, made on different last, it has a similar but different silhouette.
Also as others have mentioned the toecap is decorative and not a true toecap.
there's also the Titan that just came out.
That random pistol squat was a very hard flex. I'm impressed.
Thanks! It's the only impressive feat I'm capable of
Awesome video Nick! Random question, is Saphir Renovateur supposed to smell like a scented lotion? Or a bit chemical like? Do companies make counterfeit of Renovateur?
You're probably smelling one of the oils in the Renovateur! It's primarily, like 99 and 44 one hundredth percent mink oil. It's highly refined, so it doesn't smell or feel like your run of the mill mink oil. My Bordeaux wax smells like the almond oil that's in it. It's a delightful scent, especially for people who are accustomed to petroleum based shoe care products. You can apply the stuff with your fingers, and wash with soap and water! Saphir makes some pretty amazing stuff! It's not cheap, but it *is* inexpensive. Enjoy!!🙇✨
I'm watching this while wearing my captains. That said, Rose Anvil cut a captain boot in half and the toe cap is, as others in these comments have said, just looks - not an actual toe cap.
Another good video
Great video. I have been having major issues with my Presidents. I think the heels are taller, and as a result they strike the ground every step I take. After walking around in them for a day, it creates pain radiating all the way up to my back. I own a pair of captains which do not have that issue. Its unfortunate because its a great looking boot.
Thought I was the only one with that problem. Shaving off the heel pad helped but think removing one heel stack might be the solution. Only boot in my 72 years I've had that problem with. Weird..
Just the video we need and one BIG question, where you get that camel color jacket your wearing sir?
Oh that’s rogue territory’s supply! Got a whole video on it :D
If you haven’t already reviewed whites mp-Sherman with dainite sole would really like to see a video on them
czcams.com/video/wuf6NuqSSTI/video.html shazam!
@@Stridewise thank you. Your awesome
How good or bad are the BOSTONIAN No. 16 Cap Men's Ankle Boot?
What jeans are you guys rocking with these?
Well you've finally inspired me to use the Thursday gift card I've had forever. I wanted some nice real leather chukkas (I have a pair that are actually decent but they're faux leather) but they just didn't jump out at me. Went with the Harness o-ring boot instead, goddamn those things look like panty droppers.
My first pair of Thursdays had to go back cause they delaminated a couple weeks after not even wearing then much and it just left a bad taste for me. But I will say their customer service was very excellent. I'm guessing they were just a fluke due to how many people love their boots so I'm looking forward to these new ones.
Oh, man! I'm sorry to hear that you had trouble with your first pair. Let us know what you think about the new pair!
@@clamum Perfect :) We're glad to have you a part of the Team. We hope you enjoy your new boots for years to come!
Thanks for your kind words!!!
I actually like the Cadet Boots from Thursday the most. It's basically the Captain Boots without speedhooks.
Yeah they're like the half-chukkas!
Cadets are definitely sharp!
Great choice!
Are these comfortable for people with flat feet
Hi Nick, what are you wearing at 0:25? Great video btw
The jacket
Oh that's Tom Beckbe! fave.co/2Nr5kze
Someday I will get a pair of Thursday boots but I'm not sure which to get because there are so many options to choose from. Captains and Presidents and Chelseas . Oh My. : )
You might have to give all three a try!
Am I crazy to order 1 whole size down? I originally ordered my true size (11.5). Too big. Therefore, I returned and exchanged for an 11. Honestly, I am unsure whether it is te proper fit. It fits more comfortably compared to the 11.5, but it seems there is slight movement (my foot inside the boot) when I take steps. I fear that if I do in fact return and try a 10.5, they will be too small. Could anybody please share their thoughts? Thank you!
I’m a 9.5 in athletic shoes and have always worn a full size down in boots. Whether it be combat boots to dress shoes.
People talking about their sizing surprise me a lot. People who have never had a boot like this seem to go with a half size down based on recommendations and it’s probably close enough for them. But boots are supposed to be a little snug (not a lot) at the toe at first. They will stretch out with time and then they fit like a glove.
Maybe a lot of people have wider feet? Or just don’t have the experience with a slimmer boot?
@@jpfloyd7703 I actually ordered a whole size down and they fit great. I am curious whether the other boot models experience a similar trend.
@@jpfloyd7703The main problem is the website says to order a half a size down to what they wear in sneakers. That’s why they talk about the half size fit.
Soooo which one’s better?
Do I have to wear skinny jeans with these or are regular cut jeans okay ?
I wouldn't want to break any fashion rules. 😉
I enjoyed this video.
I saw Thursday Boots on Facebook and really need a new pair of every day lightweight casuals.
Hey i still don’t know which one is ment for which purpose ?
I want a shoes to wear in the city and hanging out in downtown ,parties and all
So which one should i buy ?
Both styles are extremely versatile so you can dress them up or down. It really boils down to which style you prefer best and which features you are interested in!
Love your boot reviews. Is the tongue gusseted on the president
mate, how is this compare to RM williams?
It actually sounds like it IS only the toe cap. The rest are available options - colors, speed hooks, wide widths, and soles.
Basically, it's possible to get the president and captain where everything is the same except the toe cap detail it sounds like. Still, a nice concise video that lists everything out. Oh and as everyone pointed out, the toe cap is decorative and not a true toe cap. Just had to tell you for the 1000th time hahaha
honestly i bought redwing beckman and i hate how they feel im honestly thinkign to trade them with somone for thursday boots
Last year I bought a pair of captain boots in 44, they are great and fit perfectly. This year I bought a pair of presidents in 44 as well. These felt a little tighter so I measured them and they are 1cm shorter. They will fit well after a certain time but there is a difference.
That one leg squat though.
Amazon reviews shows a ton of complains about Thursday Boots quality control.
Dang those Iron Rangers look so good.
The showdown.
Rose anvil cut the captain in half and the cap WAS decorative. There wasn't 2 layers of leather
Precisely! But the company isn't advertising it as well, their client support confirmed that it is decorative when I asked randomly as a prospect customer
I heard that the leather is thin compared to other boots?
yeah it's only lke 0.2mm thinner than most, just makes the break in easier. it's not really enough to mess with durability, it's not thin like dress shoe leather
Please, can I have thre web link for that president
how do you find your feet width for boot size EE or EEE
they do wide sizes
Not an actual cap toe on the captain. Rose and anvil did a cut in half vid. It’s a not a real cap on the toe. Still a great boot, still love mine.
What about Cadets boots?
Thursday Boots commercials are good
I'm rather in love with the legends...
I think they're both sick but I personally ended up buying the Presidents in Black with the speed hooks. I suppose I wanted a boot that had a slightly simpler design than the toe cap of the captains but it was really close between both and I think I would have been happy with either one. I like to rock a black/gray monochrome outfit a lot of times, that's kind of my go-to outfit for everyday wear. I think that the black Presidents are going to look great with some black or dark gray jeans and my black double breasted peacoat. I'm so excited for my Thursday Boots!!!
Still happy with your choice? I’m not sure whether to do black or a more casual brown. I also tend to dress monochrome, and don’t wear much for brown leathers.
I‘m so confused. In Germany these boots only cost 87€ which is around 100$, why are they cheaper over here? Aren’t they from the U.S.?
Thursdayboots.de is a fake website!!! Avoid!
Damn, the lack of speedhooks on the made in America lines... I've got Vanguards and Loggers and neither are anything I'm reaching for in a rush.
The Vanguards were my first boot and yep. No speed hooks. Not really interested in wearing them as much nowadays. Kind of sad...
@@NathanKnepper They were my first dress boot, I rotate them in a few times a week but when my Parkhurst's get here I do feel I'll be partial to them.
@@jordanaethelric2614 I picked up a pair of spruce kudus recently! They're absolutely amazing. Probably one of my top 3 if I'm being honest.
@@NathanKnepper I love everything about the fit and style of the Parkhursts but the first day they were rubbing the hell outta my tendon. I hope this is just a break in issue.
I didn't know why speed hooks were called speed hooks!
I've got both in 9.5 size and the presidents are a bit longer...
I have to mention this, I have a pair of the captains and the presidents, the president is much more comfortable because it doesn't have the cap toe. What the cap toe does on my foot on the captain boot is it forces the crease where the ball of my foot Benz when I walk, pushes that crease further away from the toe closer to the top of my foot, making it uncomfortable to wear for more than a couple hours, quite surprising as I thought these boots were basically identical. However they feel totally different, The president is way more comfortable on my feet
So there is less space for your toe with the captains? Causing pressure towards the top of your foot?
Any other way to wear these without an enormous cuff?
I’ve got the storm king sole on my explorers. They wore out within 4 months of regular wear
Hey Brendan! We're happy to take a closer look. Please email our customer support team at teamthursday@thursdayboots.com
@@Thursdayboots someone’s already looked at it and said it’s ‘normal wear’
it actually is Not an extra layer, they been cut apart countless time on youtube and prove it is Not another layer of leather on the cap toe.
I own both!
Which do you like the best?
Which one is better in your opinion?
Thursday again!
This got more views in 12 hours than my watch video did in 4 weeks haha, just givin the people what they want Thursday videos always do well
The lack of speed hooks on the Loggers is plain cruel.
Haha I don't have them but I have the 8-inch Red Wings and I feel your pain
I've had the Loggers since September of 2020 or so and FINALLY dropped them off at the cobbler to add speed hooks
It can take a little time to lace those up but the more you wear them the leather becomes softer and easier to get on!
@@Thursdayboots can confirm, and that waxed flesh is easily my favorite leather you use! I've got plenty of buddies who are full eyelet purists, and it's 100% just a preference thing. Loggers are holding up well after a wet winter and Spring in the PNW by the way, great boot!
I have martens with 8 eyelets and what I do to quickly loose the boots is I hold the top corner on both sides where the last eyelets are and shake them while pulling outwards. This way laces get loose 4-5 eyelets down the boot at once providing ease of removing the boot and then putting them back on.
I hope what I just typed makes sense :)
I have both and I feel like the captain is more comfortable. Good boots. Their sneakers suck though.
Agreed. My Crown Northampton sneakers in Shell Cordovan are spectacular, money goes a long way in the sneaker world.
@@memefeed2147 yeah I just hate how they market themselves as a luxury sneaker when it’s a far below that. lol I actually called them out on their issues with the super creasing and quality on Instagram. They deleted my comment.
@@ohmyrufiohhh1303 you mean crown sneakers? did you get the shell cordovan model?
@@memefeed2147 I don’t own any cordovan sneakers but I do have a pair of cordovan Allen Edmonds cap toes and that leather is just something different. I was mainly referring to other brands on this list such as koio or ace marks. The leather and quality is just on a bother level than the Thursday’s. They gave me bs respond about how leather naturally creases. I gave them the response that all other sneakers look great after a year of use but the Thursday’s look like Benjamin button after one night of wear.
@@ohmyrufiohhh1303 yeah Thursday and the other sneaker brands are a huge miss imo. I thought you were referring to Crown Northampton’s quality. Crazy how they silenced a solid critique of subar leather and construction. I hate shit sneakers
Could a cobbler do the opposite and replace my speed hooks with eyelets? I bought my presidents before they started offering the non- speed hook option.
i like the president as it doesnt look as dressy as the captain
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