Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" czcams.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
Very convincing. And you always keep them honest and ask all the right questions. I look forward to also seeing these tools and batteries reviewed by Kyle and Greg at RR Buildings, and the Perkins Brothers.
Dude this video was so mega helpful. The number of times that we've had to get out at like 2:00 in the morning and patch a hole in the fence so the Black Angus don't run up and down the neighborhood and do it with just the headlights from the truck would probably not surprise you if you grew up on a farm. That Lights Tower. My dad wants one so bad now. I want that skill saw. The number of times that Papa bowl has gotten angry and destroyed the barn because we put him into the barn and I've had to cut two before is to repair everything, I could just easily buy that saw and two of those batteries with the money that I have spent over the years on replacement batteries for the current saw that I have. As a guy that works as a machinist during the week and then on the family farm every day when he gets off plus every weekend, these videos about all these tools and even the ones about all your dump trailers and everything, these are so super helpful to me and to my family members that I share them with. Please keep making these tool and all the trailer videos.
Clearly those guys are sales team because product engineers would have used terms like volts, amps, series circuit, parallel circuit and watts. Highway ramps and lanes is no way to describe battery technology.
Lol what established business do you see where the salesman are the engineers?? This is a ridiculous critique. You get mad that the waiters that tell you about the food arent the chefs or that the people installing your pool aren't the engineers and architects that drew it up?
@@williambeckman6900 lol so does context. I can tell you are trying to sound intelligent but it isnt working. No one said details didn't matter. No one said a sales person shouldn't understand what they are selling. I said that the engineer or the chef are not the one's who need to be the salesperson. I'm not entirely sure how that sounded to you like the salesperson shouldn't know the specifics of the item they are peddling. Maybe you should brush up on your comprehension and pop off less in an effort to simply say something without context. You don't seem to be able to differentiate between two seperate ideas lol
Flex didn't take off when introduced due to immediate battery price gouging, they should have got customers vested in their tools first by offering battery deals at the beginning.
Amen! I almost am persuaded to get one but I do not know how many tools they will produce. This brand had “China” written all over it, even copying DeWalt’s “stack” technology.
If you register under the Founders warranty, you get up to three replacements for life. And it's a night and day difference in the power. Literally, everyone I work with has been blown away by the difference in these tools. They're just on another level with that battery tech.
It's amazing how far battery tech has come in the 20 years. I remember the first battery drill I had was a black and Decker ⅜ drill that was 6volt. And the battery was made into the drill handle and it just had a little cord to charge it. It would drill like 4 holes before it was dead but it was great to not have to drag a cord to drill 1 hole. Now you still don't need a cord but can drill holes all day
I just wish I could try out every tool before buying it. I wouldn't even consider this tool (I love my milwaukee) but they put on a good show. New bits/blades make a big difference. As that guy was cutting with the Sawzall I keep saying to myself push that thing tight to the wood dude. Thanks Stan
I’m a newb diyer with a black and decker sawzall. Even I knew,l intuitively, after one use, to push the guard into the cutting surface. These demo guys must have been day workers the marketing rep picked up, on the way to lowes
Honestly the Sawzall recoil and vibration reduction is nice. I’ve only used my buddies Dewalt and without ever using Flex. I bought the 6pc kit for $550, and same day used the saw with ease. Even one handed while cutting a branch. The lifetime warranty is what sold me. And the Lowes rep said Dewalt and Flex are pushing out the competition into smaller displays, less retail space and product support. I almost went Bosch but I figured hey whats to lose for the price of 2 tools I got 6 and they feel much better than Dewalt. I know Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita make some great stuff, but Lowes is reducing their selections. And now that everything is made in china or owned by them, theres no emphasis on “american tool companies” lol
Listen man. If you have Milwaukee You’re not missing out on anything at all. Nobody is going to have this breakthrough technology without it effecting the others.
Their is a strong safety reason why most (nearly all) cordless tool manufacturers have chooses not to use pouch cells. It’s safety. Traditionally speaking, when pouch cells suffer a catastrophic failure, it’s explosive and violent. And when you stack them, the failure cascades. A stacked pouch battery with this type of capacity would traditionally be seen as a small explosive. Now, with that said. I doubt the engineers would have built this battery unless they found a new type of pouch cell on the market that is not susceptible to such a catastrophic failure.
I gotta say those FLEX employees were terrible at using their own tools. They might have been more impressive by hiring models to do the demos - at least being models nobody would have an expectation that they know what they’re doing.
They look like classic junior salesmen whose best skill is to yap. They should've been given a wood working project to complete before they're allowed to demo the tools.
Your typical salemsman these days who might as well be selling shoes, TVs, wahsing machines, cars or drills. They just learn a sales pitch and it doens't matter if it's fora fridge or a power drill. You have to do all your own research and don't trust anything a salesguy claims. If you ask anything that's outside their traning material they are clueless.
Hello Stan, I love the new Flex tools. I have problems with hands and I think those Flex tools would be great for me because I can't hold on to power tools for a long period of time. Thanks for sharing. Love the videos keep up the good work and stay safe.
It'll be interesting to see if the pouch cells puff up and crack the casing over time. Manufacturers tend to avoid the pouches since it's a bit more difficult to make sure that doesn't happen with high draw devices.
They are a disaster waiting to happen, would not store such Flex batteries in the house. There has been recent disasters with similar batteries for rental scooters, first a fire when stored in a basement, the battery packs and charging location was then moved to an older building without other shops and shortly after it burned.
After about 3 year of working for my girlfriends uncle building houses. I’ll tell you right now battery power is going to be on ever site running almost most tools if it isn’t already. I mean you can’t beat an air gun (pneumatic) doing stuff like decking. But a year in I bought the 60v dewalt circular saw. And it is now one of the most asked tools on jobs we do. I remember my girlfriends uncle thinking it wouldn’t rip an LVL beam. And his face at the end made me love the tool even more. He loves his corded makita but battery is the way to go. Now the battery is super heavy so you pay for that butttttttt (drum roll) POWER STACK!!!! Have about a weeks worth of testing so far and my god…. They are all the hype. Let’s see how they hold up
Powerstack is not the big shift. It's definitely a helpful bump and it'll be interesting to see what new tools and applications we'll see but everyone's been running cordless at least 7 years
The ergonomics and the overthinking in a good way to make the experience of the end user a lot more comfortable and confident enough to tackle new and challenging project; is what got me to switch platform, after watching the full 23 min. of video thank you so miuch Stan n the Flex guys.
I know the safety feature (kickback control) from my blue bosch professional cordless hammer drill... and it saved my wrist several times as well as it prevented me from being tossed of the ladder when hitting a beam with the hole saw under the wood sheeting in the stairway at our house and why an impact is easily controlled with one hand or a few fingers... because it does not use permanen torque but radial impacts to get the screw in... simple as that too bad FLEX does not offer those tools over here in Austria but they seem to be tough tools and pretty good
FLEX are hit and miss, their definitely a step above Ryobi but their not on the same playing field as Milwaukee, Makita or DeWalt. They have quite a few tools that are either much bulkier/heavier and not as powerful in real world usages, & the only guy i know who runs FLEX on the construction site has already had to warrant 6 of his 9 batterys (2yrs old) meanwhile i've never warrantied a single one of my Milwaukee batterys even some of my old 8-9 year old 5.0's are still running good and my co-woker who is DeWalt has only ever had 3 warranty claims on his flexvolt batterys in that same 2yr time period. So their catching up but their still quite a ways behind the big 3 in reliability and portability for the power
I’m so glad you did this video @Stan.. I’ve been seeing a ton of @Flex in our Lowes here in southern Ky.. I just thought it was a cheap knock off of something else.. but Holy Crap.. every bit of what you just showed ( even the spyder bit which I’ve seen/wondered about as well ).. was ALL phenomenal with this new battery technology.. The only thing I didn’t hear you ask, which you normally do, was the price point.. Any idea on that? Great video as usual brother!! Stay blessed!!
Having battery powered tools on the job site can save 8hrs a week in set-up & take-down time. Back 25yrs ago, we had to run electrical cords from an onsite temporary power poll, or a generator sometimes 250' or more! That's especially challenging for a job site that's covered 4 to 8" of mud! Sometimes I thought I was terraforming on the other planet.
Impressive. I really like the push buttton impact. I like the 6.5 inline circ saw made by flex, but there wasn't anything else to interest me until now. The new battery tech, the impact and the recip saw are looking pretty good now.
It's not a circular saw, its it's worm drive. They're all torque. It's It's good saw but people seemed to be confused in the comments. It's not as impressive as if a circular saw had cut through the 3ply plywood like that.
Watching these guys who clearly don't do anything trade related miss use these tools and they STILL performed amazing is really remarkable. I'd be curious to know how durable they are over their life time as I know they're quite a bit more expensive than even milwaukee.
@@richboii6597 Yea Milwaukee has had some serious price increases since the last time I priced them. It's due to it all being made in China and logistics cost are just crap right now. I use milwaukee for around the house stuff (12volt) & I love it, but if Flex is coming in cheaper and performing this well the only question now is dependability. I know my milwaukee stuff will be going a decade from now due to my light use and well cared for battery charging area (climate control is key)
@@richboii6597had flex increased their prices recently or has Milwaukee come down? They are the same price in store now, maybe you can find special promotions on line...
I’m a big light guy … got like 3 Milwaukee towers , 2 1500 floods , headlamps and a few magnet lights from them and Nebo… but once he took the light head off with the battery …. Take my money …. As an electrician and at home mechanic/ motor mechanic , take my money
I use 20v dewalt tools every day and the amount of abuse they can take is amazing. I know I shouldn’t do it but I can’t count how many times my impact driver has been used as a hammer to get boards knocked into position and the Dewalts keep on working…
It’s called a scrammer and you should absolutely be able to use your screwdriver as a hammer 🔨. We don’t want to carry a hammer around if we don’t have too!
The pouches swell due to gas generation during high discharge and fast charging. Swelling pouches are a major fire hazard. The reason the other guys switched to cylinders is for safety and longevity of the battery pack.
From flying racing drones I know lipo pouch cells can deliver massive amounts of power but they don't really hold up very well over alot of use. As much as power tool batteries cost I would rather a battery with a longer life over the highest performance.
Flex needs a 10" table saw and 10 & 12" sliding miter saws. They also need a router, nail guns, and sanders. This list would really make them a serious alternative. Milwaukee, dewalt, and makita just have so much depth that even where they may have less power they can cover all your needs.
The tests are useless if they aren't testing side by side against competitor's tools. I'll believe it when I see them compare better on a Project Farm video.
I am not completely sold because it takes time to see the life of the battery pack and it’s capacity to hold a charge . Other batteries made huge claims too . Cylindrical batteries are rolled up where the block is just the same lithium sheet but folded flat on itself. Nothing really stands out other than that. And it also depends on the gearing ratios . Only time will tell Thank you for sharing this
@@Dirtmonkey yeah if i im going to buy a tool cataglog its gotta be dependable and durable can i throw my 1/2 impact in a tool box time and time or not worry about that battery like samsung, see what fails in the tool if it will
@@Dirtmonkey Pouch batteries have better bang for their buck there is no lie about that. Pouch batteries utilize around %90-%95 of their available space giving more power for less space. Also, the casing of cell-type batteries adds weight so you get the benefit from pouch-type batteries you get more charge for the same amount of space it weighs less. Pouch cells also do have less internal resistance increasing the amount of current that can be delivered from such a battery and you can actually draw quite a large amount of current from pouch-type batteries. Also, recent advancements in pouch-type batteries have eliminated a large amount of the risk although it is still there. There are new regulations that manufacturers need to uphold and a pouch-type battery must be able to have a nail puncture through them without catching fire or exploding. These types of batteries are safer and more reliable than ever and do offer advantages over cell-type batteries. And as long as their enclosure is built to handle that type of battery there is little risk as pouch-type batteries do offer the same life span as cell type while also being able to dump more current, have more power for less space, and not weighing as much as cell batteries. Yes, they will have the same approx life span as a cell type. Although, cell type has the advantage of having a hardened metal casing around the cell, however, this has become less of an issue with advancements in the pouch format. The truth is cell-type batteries have pretty much hit the peak in the amount of power they can hold and discharge, while pouch-type continues to have advancements in the amount of current they can continuously provide and their charge density. They have become more durable and safer in recent years making them more desired in consumer electronics. Some of the stuff they said is true they have less resistance meaning more current delivery they can charge faster than cell-type batteries and recent advancements have them charging faster than ever and they can hold more energy for the same unit volume. Don't get me wrong cell-type has its place and won't be going anywhere for a long time, however, pouch-type does have some clear advantages over cell-type and cell type has the advantage of having a metal casing around them making them less likely to be punctured or ruptured although it does still happen.
I think most of the top brand power tools are pretty similar nowadays besides a couple features here and there. The sauce is in the batteries, along with using quality attachments(would the Irwin bit perform as well as the Spyder?). So the tool companies are competing for the best battery performance/attachments. FLEX stuff looks pretty good so far but I’m already heavily invested in RED tools. We’ll see how FLEX holds up after a couple more years
I agree with Kellysahy2850, and I'm also heavily invested in Red... I'm not saying that Flex is not good, as I think it is good... I'm just on a different platform.
There is something to be said for brand name and history. The newest might be the greatest, but it has to earn that reputation where you trust the brand name.
I've been a DeWalt user since 1993. 9.6, 19, 36, now 20. Each time I had to buy different tools to be able to get new batteries and chargers. Flex has made a HUGE good idea to keep the same voltage/battery pack. I don't know that I'll switch though. I've got a lot of money invested in tools and I've started rebuilding my own battery packs even switching to LiPoFe batteries because when the BMS in the 36v fails it is as expensive as a new battery that you can't get any way. Yes, LiPoFe has less energy density and have their own needs but no BMS needed.
Take it into a dewalt dealer they will probably replace it for free. I’ve gotten at least 10 tools and batteries replaced for free. A lot of people don’t know that.
I got mine and I've been using it in my Jobsite for a while now. I got 10ah Stack Lithium Battery in there too and I paired the saw with Makita Max Efficiency ATAF-R Ultra Thin Kerf 7-1/4" saw blade. And the saw cuts like a Laser Beam or a Plasma Cutter. It's a dream of having a circular saw with this much power, overwhelming power and torque. This Flex rear handle outperformed my good ole Bosch CSW41 worm drive and my good ole Makita 5377 magnesium Hypoid Saw. Meanwhile my good ole Makita XSR01 rear handle 36V saw is only for metal cutting I got Diablo 48T Steel Demon saw blade in there. I'm gonna be converting my Bosch CSW41 worm drive for beam cutter I'm gonna install Prazi Beam cutter.
Oh man nice stuff, These guys need to come out with a power inverter like dewalt has! if its 1920w for one batt, that could be a powerhouse system. Love watching your videos!
This is actually really impressive, I guess DeWalt has some serious competition... Gunna have to look at some in person n fell n see if they seem cheap
This is the comment I am posting everywhere possible: Bought this Flex pack out a few months ago. Used on three projects. The latches between the top box and the middle box kept hanging up or not locking. Soooo, tried to call company service to get a fix. Wasn't asking for anything but a tech to walk me through the fix(maybe a replacement latch?). First, good luck getting through, they DON"T answer their phones. After a half hour hold the message comes on offering a call back. No choice gotta grow old on the phone or give up. No call back, so the next day I try again, same deal, but this time I get a call back. Pleasant young lady hears the problem and takes all my info and says they are sending a new replacement unit!! Of course nothing took place, NO Replacement Unit, No Latches, NO NOTHING!!!! The product seems to be well made except for these few minor issues, however I would never recommend buying a Flex product. They have no customer loyalty. I no longer care to upgrade my tool platform to your products, as I was considering your power tool line. Not anymore.
These guys should be paying you 100k per video. These type of videos are priceless to a company. I’m a Milwaukee guy but this almost had me think twice
Sick video Stan, always looked the other way when offered a deal with off branded tooling, this video proves me wrong. My conclusion is seems great, newer technology, but what happens when red,blue and yellow get a hold of the PATENT and produce a similar output device? Thanks Stan, you rock! 👊
They'll be able to compete when the patent runs out. But CHERVON, they will already have a newer product working or ready for market. Anybody can say what they want .but the battery tech ( ego,flex , even the Skil being a lower brand is very good) is above everyone it appears. Although, I still luv me some Makita, and other brands for certain tools. I'm a firm believer in having several different brands. Why? Cu when on a job site you may have to help out other guys who run out of battery power. And it doesn't hurt your reputation to have it available for those guys if needed.
@@adwhite804 you run every manufacturer so when your on a jobsite full of tools who didn't recharge their batteries before bedtime can use yours? That's cool, if you like kissing °ss. Most professionals run 2, maybe 3 brands because some work better in certain situations. Yeah this eco tool is alright but bring it on site for a year, mud, rain, snow, dirt. Curious on warrantied parts being replaced in efficient manner and seems like the tool made itself look good not the people who were running it from the company, they were the real tools 😉
@@Tannertraversed they have a lifetime replacement of their tools if bought before the end of 2022, they will replace the battery up to 5 times. Otherwise it's still 5 yrs which is still better or equal to the top 4
Apparently, flex brought back the lifetime warranty till end of this year. But with all these intentional shortages, any company can have the latest and the greatest. It’s all no good if the consumer can’t buy it because of some stupid shortages. I’m so tried hear this.. I would like to have seen a miter saw..
Hey Stan, The drill was impressive however was it the tool or was it the bit that made the light work of the wood? I would like to see a comparison with the same tool different drill bit or different tool and the newer bit. Thinking the latter will be just as impressive. Hope I am wrong. Thanks Stan, God bless!
All I know is that I have used every cordless drill and impact. I've always liked DeWalt, but have bought em all. I dropped my DeWalt impact in the lake. Went to get a new one and the new DeWalt 20v was $20 less than the Flex. It only had the one battery and a charger, and the box looked like the packaging of a cheap toy. Flex had a 5 and a 2 amp/hr battery and charger. This thing is a beast. It is the strongest and fastest impact driver I have ever used.
You have used every one? There is like 30 different impacts on the market I doubt you have used them all. And hilti is about 10x better than dewalt. If you say dewalt is the best impact before you tried flex then you definitely haven’t used very many because dewalt is not the best.
@@gsaexperience8578 I partially agree. DeWalt is far from the best. I bought a Flex and will never pick up my DeWalt impact again. Maybe to move it out of the way. I haven't had much experience with Hilti, but the few people I know who've had them didn't speak highly of them.
Just bought the hammer drill and impact driver 2 1/2 hrs ago, we'll see. I need the hammer function to work for installing windows in block all the time and my rigid impact couldn't handle the tapcons anymore. It could just be my batteries, but it was time to upgrade, and I thought with the lifetime warranty on all tools sold before the end of the year it was worth it. They didn't come with the stacked lithium batteries though.
The drill did look good and I actually just got my first Flex tool last week, the 1/2 inch high torque impact wrench. I also have the Dewalt 60v mixing drill and joist drill and they have a crazy amount of torque but not really a fair comparison I guess. They also weigh a ton compared to this little drill.
@Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek it has the old 5.0 ah battery but certainly doesn't lack power getting massive lug nuts off my box truck. Worth it not fighting with the big old breaker bar!
Definitely should have used a different brand bit, or some old bits. You can stick a bit in most tools and they feel like new. That's the main thing I wish was done, so we can have a comparison, mabey the Milwaukee fuel line in a VS match.
Would have been nice to see this backwards capability and battery technology tested against the older batteries. I'd also love to see a new and old battery of the same size be tested by an electronics CZcams channel where the load can be controlled and measured before I believe there claim of improved power AND simultaneous improved endurance.
Sounds like you know what your looking for- maybe you should do the test and film it. I bet a lot of people would be interested in hard facts like that. I was wondering how you quantify with precision 200%, 300% and those other performance increases.
@@Dirtmonkey I know just enough to know what smarter people should test. I have neither the test equipment nor the film equipment to undertake such a project, but the tests themselves can somewhat easily verify the claims or disprove them. The most basic of tests can be a simple as taking a new battery of the older technology and one of the new technology of equal capacities and then from a full charge running a single tool until flat and timing it. Swap the old for the new battery into the same tool and repeat. If their claim stands true, the new battery technology should last three times as long as the old in the exact same device. A more sophisticated method is to replace their tools with a synthetic load and place measuring equipment between the load and the battery so that voltage and current can be measured precisely. It's then a matter of calculating the maximum discharge rate along with endurance of a sustained discharge of the batteries followed by a little maths to determine the actual percentages. I'm not sure if battery testing is quite within his scope, but "Big Clive" from the United Kingdom is one CZcamsr that I follow who likes to pull electronics apart and reverse engineer. He might be a better source to reach out to than I if you want better info. Here's one of his videos on a clone of a Ryobi battery. czcams.com/video/rN7XOAhjdnI/video.html
DeWalt has also gone to this stacked cell technology they call power stack or something like that and they also are making some pretty impressive claims
the endurance they're talking about is the number of charge-discharge cycles the cells can handle, as a cell is subjected to more of them its Ah rating decreases over time (until the battery can't hold any charge). it's not a runtime claim but a life-expectancy claim. I think the sales reps got the terms mixed up.
Stan I put up a lot of banners on poles and I use those timber loc screws to hold the bottom of the banner to the pole. You don’t realize how powerful those drivers are until you you get you fingers between the screw and the pole
Thats what it sounds like they may be using in these tools. They have an expandable tab that prevents the tool from overheating or something along those lines
Very impressive. Amazing how far battery technology in power tools has come. I found the drill and impact driver most impressive. Definitely has the torque to sink those large and long auger bits in quickly. I can see these being a real time saver on the jobsite. Thank you for the in-depth look, Stan. Flex is really getting rolling with a bunch of momentum. Taking on the big guys like Dewalt, Milwaukee, and Makita.
@@Dirtmonkey Definitely impressive, but my no means do they pass up other brands. As a resi sparky I can say with certainty that the DeWalt XR would be on par if not better especially with a FlexVolt battery and that's with my old bits that have been unprofessionally sharpened a few times lol. I've haven't got a chance to try the 40v Makita XGT drill yet but apparently it's similar to the DeWalt. XGT stuff is in Hilti price territory though so gotta factor that in.
@@Dirtmonkey DeWalt did the same thing with power stack yeah that got a 1.7 ah power stack now and there was leaked pictures going on in information of a 5.0 ah DeWalt power stack battery
I’m already invested in a different brand so I’ll probably never own a Flex tool, but I’ve seen them use a Flex saw while literally immersed in a fish tank. Now that’s impressive.
A few questions here..1 that I'm not sure if you covered is do you need to buy a new charger for the new batteries or will the original charger work. Also flex is known to overheat...what are they doing about that. yes I have the 1371 impact driver and so far I really like it.
@@mitchdenner9743 maybe I’m wrong but I was always taught that to increase power from and electric motor you had to either increase voltage or amperage which increases heat , and their description of the battery design only reduces resistance ( flow) which I agree will extend back life and power but increasing power inThe motor has to be an increase in amperage!
@@littlehuey5679 yes, more amps better performance, longer battery life , less resistance = less heat. Pretty sure the lack of resistance in the batteries is the main improvement that facilitates the better performance
Hilti been selling tools with about the same specs for years. Issue with Flex\Hilti batteries is that they are considerably larger & heavier than other tool batteries, which improves power and runtime.
Might have to buy two impacts for my upcoming gutter season. And review them at the end of the year on my YT channel. I use my dewalts all day everyday so i could put them to the test. Thanks Stan
The one handed saws generally have a shorter blade stroke than larger saws. And in reality, these one handed saws are really for plumbers and electricians to cut pvc and conduit etc. Stick with a full size saw for wood.
@@Dirtmonkey I was watching how little it seemed to be vibrating. That was impressive. I was just commenting on their wood/nail blade that seemed really underwhelming compared to like a Diablo. But if they are a shorter stroke, that would make sense that it can't eat through like a regular reciprocating saw can. Thanks for the reply/clarification!
Interesting and somewhat impressed with the initial performance. I've been a lifelong Makita 18v cordless tool family (with a couple 36v in there) contractor. The Flex tools I have tested at the store are bulky and just don't have the right balance/feel. My biggest question will continue to have is reliability and longevity. My cordless sawzall has lasted me over 8 years of regular use and abuse, it finally has developed a loose connection but still rips when you bump it right. Good video Stan
Huh, their dimensions are almost exactly the same, or smaller than Milwaukee. The saw is revolutionary. It's extremely compact compared to other offerings, and used a design never used before. The motor isn't sticking way out the side. Definitely not bulky. I'm really wondering what you're talking about, and I can't find any one of their tools that has any dimension larger than Milwaukee. Not overall height, width, length, diameters, inscribed circle, or any other dimension.
That saw was definitely impressive in this video, but not everyone prefers to use a 7 1/4. It has it's place in a stable of tools, but I honestly haven't found much in our 30 years that we couldn't also do with a much smaller and lighter saw. We always used a corded 5 1/4 until cordless became reliable enough. We have used the 6 1/2 since then with little to no complaints. Once in a blue moon more power would be appreciated but it's a great tradeoff. Look at the specs/ dimensions. Makita has always had some of the smallest footprint impact drivers on the market. Milwaukee has definitely matched them and now produce more power. The Flex are definitely larger. As well as the larger battery platform. For my personal business, the bulk of it is remodeling, I don't care to lug around a large tool all day to bump into things or to drag with me in an attic. For the tightest jobs I rely on 12v tools if possible. Like I said in my previous post, there has to be a good balance as well and to me, Makita has it. Plus, I'm already invested in that battery platform. If I had to change, Milwaukee would be next on my list. Flex may be coming on strong, but at the moment, it's unproven in the grand scheme and feels like Lowe's Ridgid. God bless y'all
So the flex hammer drill & impact driver combo kit was beating out most competitors with power so when you add the lithium stacked batteries I can imagine they are gonna perform alot better .
I've got the Flex 6-1/2" belt drive circular saw and I like it a lot (not the 7-1/4" shown). I don't have any stacked batteries. As a leftie, I am glad to AT LAST have a really good sight line in front of the motor to the blade from the right side. The visibility makes cutting WAY more comfortable. And the adjustable dust port is great. The saw feels very well made-quality materials and finish. I enjoy using it more than any other circular saw I have tried in my 40 plus years of woodworking. FYI, I checked out the 7-1/4" Flex saw, and the view of the blade is much more limited from the right side.
I was a DeWalt guy for a long time. After they a few of my higher end DeWalt tools died on me way too early, I made the switch to Flex. Happy to say I'll never buy another DeWalt tool as long as Flex maintains the quality they offer right now.
Would love to know how extensively they tested these batteries on their old model tools... Seems like it could put more strain on the tool its self no? Also... Stacked batteries aren't new but are also more dangerous. Any damage to a battery pouch could cause major fires as they don't have vent holes like standard lithium ion batteries. I would also hope that they have temp and voltage protection on those batteries so they don't swell and blow up (like the Samsung note 7 incident). Those new tools do look like they shred though but as always I'll be waiting till they've been on the market for a while before getting any!!!
Got almost 2 years on my first flex set. They have performed flawlessly. No issues at all. I’ll keep buying them for sure.
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" czcams.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
Very convincing. And you always keep them honest and ask all the right questions. I look forward to also seeing these tools and batteries reviewed by Kyle and Greg at RR Buildings, and the Perkins Brothers.
Dude this video was so mega helpful.
The number of times that we've had to get out at like 2:00 in the morning and patch a hole in the fence so the Black Angus don't run up and down the neighborhood and do it with just the headlights from the truck would probably not surprise you if you grew up on a farm. That Lights Tower. My dad wants one so bad now.
I want that skill saw. The number of times that Papa bowl has gotten angry and destroyed the barn because we put him into the barn and I've had to cut two before is to repair everything, I could just easily buy that saw and two of those batteries with the money that I have spent over the years on replacement batteries for the current saw that I have.
As a guy that works as a machinist during the week and then on the family farm every day when he gets off plus every weekend, these videos about all these tools and even the ones about all your dump trailers and everything, these are so super helpful to me and to my family members that I share them with. Please keep making these tool and all the trailer videos.
Clearly those guys are sales team because product engineers would have used terms like volts, amps, series circuit, parallel circuit and watts. Highway ramps and lanes is no way to describe battery technology.
They dumbed it down so non techy people could understand it better
I was glad he caught himself when he said the batteries had no resistance!
Lol what established business do you see where the salesman are the engineers?? This is a ridiculous critique. You get mad that the waiters that tell you about the food arent the chefs or that the people installing your pool aren't the engineers and architects that drew it up?
@@hermessanchez7955 I can tell you are never going to be a product manager or any kind of engineer. Details matter.
@@williambeckman6900 lol so does context. I can tell you are trying to sound intelligent but it isnt working. No one said details didn't matter. No one said a sales person shouldn't understand what they are selling. I said that the engineer or the chef are not the one's who need to be the salesperson. I'm not entirely sure how that sounded to you like the salesperson shouldn't know the specifics of the item they are peddling. Maybe you should brush up on your comprehension and pop off less in an effort to simply say something without context. You don't seem to be able to differentiate between two seperate ideas lol
Flex didn't take off when introduced due to immediate battery price gouging, they should have got customers vested in their tools first by offering battery deals at the beginning.
I think they did in the sense that they offered combo deals. But otherwise, yeah they charge a premium for their batteries
Amen! I almost am persuaded to get one but I do not know how many tools they will produce. This brand had “China” written all over it, even copying DeWalt’s “stack” technology.
If you register under the Founders warranty, you get up to three replacements for life. And it's a night and day difference in the power. Literally, everyone I work with has been blown away by the difference in these tools. They're just on another level with that battery tech.
STAN, TELL THE FLEX GUYS THAT THE SHOE OF A RECRIP SAW IS THERE FOR A REASON, CUTS GO MUCH BETTER WHEN THE SHOE IS AGAINST THE MATERIAL TO BE CUT.
agreed and I actually did tell him that. he was holding that about 1/8" off the material making it work even harder.
It's amazing how far battery tech has come in the 20 years. I remember the first battery drill I had was a black and Decker ⅜ drill that was 6volt. And the battery was made into the drill handle and it just had a little cord to charge it. It would drill like 4 holes before it was dead but it was great to not have to drag a cord to drill 1 hole. Now you still don't need a cord but can drill holes all day
With that said-=. what do you think 20 years from now will look like? We are all so impressed with this but where does it go from this point?
We have a bunch of early cordless power tools at the lake. They are horrible for any considerable work
@@Dirtmonkey haha, we will have solidstate batteries where you will get the same output of power as the 15Ah battery, yet in the size of their 3Ah.
@@Dirtmonkey Hope, in a few years they will use lasers to cut an drill. Great episode on great tools. Stay blessed you too!
I am constantly amazed by the vocity of battery and led upgrades. I remember the makita cordless batteries from the 80s and my incandescent mag light.
DeWalt has stacked lithium batteries for a few months now. I love that the guy completely bypassed when you asked if anyone else has this.
Milwaukee has them also , we just put then out a couple weeks ago at the home depot I work at.
Dewalt is terrible lol
msmith 7793 …..huh….? Dewalts the 💩 tf you smokin waterboy
@@msmith-tb3sm Milwaukee is commie Chinese owned.......lol
Tried the DeWalt ones they don't really seem to do anything special and theyer not high ah from what I've seen
I just wish I could try out every tool before buying it. I wouldn't even consider this tool (I love my milwaukee) but they put on a good show. New bits/blades make a big difference. As that guy was cutting with the Sawzall I keep saying to myself push that thing tight to the wood dude. Thanks Stan
I’m a newb diyer with a black and decker sawzall. Even I knew,l intuitively, after one use, to push the guard into the cutting surface. These demo guys must have been day workers the marketing rep picked up, on the way to lowes
Honestly the Sawzall recoil and vibration reduction is nice. I’ve only used my buddies Dewalt and without ever using Flex. I bought the 6pc kit for $550, and same day used the saw with ease. Even one handed while cutting a branch. The lifetime warranty is what sold me. And the Lowes rep said Dewalt and Flex
are pushing out the competition into smaller displays, less retail space and product support. I almost went Bosch but I figured hey whats to lose for the price of 2 tools I got 6 and they feel much better than Dewalt. I know Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita make some great stuff, but Lowes is reducing their selections. And now that everything is made in china or owned by them, theres no emphasis on “american tool companies” lol
I love my Milwaukee too. These tools would have to be able to suck me off and make me a sandwich before I would consider switching.
Listen man. If you have Milwaukee You’re not missing out on anything at all. Nobody is going to have this breakthrough technology without it effecting the others.
Lol- Stan called him out on that exact same thing!
Good call Stan on calling out the benefit of holding the recip. saw guard against that 4x4 for less vibration; faster cut!
Nice work on the product demo Stan, I like your no BS reviews, especially on the light to midrange equipment.
Glad you like them!
@@Dirtmonkey hi Stanley
Their is a strong safety reason why most (nearly all) cordless tool manufacturers have chooses not to use pouch cells. It’s safety. Traditionally speaking, when pouch cells suffer a catastrophic failure, it’s explosive and violent. And when you stack them, the failure cascades. A stacked pouch battery with this type of capacity would traditionally be seen as a small explosive. Now, with that said. I doubt the engineers would have built this battery unless they found a new type of pouch cell on the market that is not susceptible to such a catastrophic failure.
Dewalt does it now also.
Putting a lot of faith in a massive corporation to do something for the peoples wellbeing though
If they get Seuss, they lose money. Its not going to explode
@@mookfaru835 That’s exactly why I am not overly concerned about it.
@@Veritas-invenitur ford pinto.
I gotta say those FLEX employees were terrible at using their own tools. They might have been more impressive by hiring models to do the demos - at least being models nobody would have an expectation that they know what they’re doing.
They were also not aware of the size of bits or bolts they were using..
They look like classic junior salesmen whose best skill is to yap. They should've been given a wood working project to complete before they're allowed to demo the tools.
@@texeiramalcom Right! 3 eights auger my ass hahahahaha hahaha
Why don't yall go apply than🤣
Your typical salemsman these days who might as well be selling shoes, TVs, wahsing machines, cars or drills. They just learn a sales pitch and it doens't matter if it's fora fridge or a power drill. You have to do all your own research and don't trust anything a salesguy claims. If you ask anything that's outside their traning material they are clueless.
i appreciated your time on this vd it just getting me more close to make a decision which toolset brand to get .. thank you again.
Hello Stan,
I love the new Flex tools.
I have problems with hands and I think those Flex tools would be great for me because I can't hold on to power tools for a long period of time. Thanks for sharing.
Love the videos keep up the good work and stay safe.
Then these would be a good fit. I was drilling with just 2 fingers and no effort.
It'll be interesting to see if the pouch cells puff up and crack the casing over time. Manufacturers tend to avoid the pouches since it's a bit more difficult to make sure that doesn't happen with high draw devices.
they said they have them built to keep them from doing that - BUT time will tell
Dewalt is using the same thing on their new Powerstack batteries
Its inevitable it will happen but it will take a good while
They are a disaster waiting to happen, would not store such Flex batteries in the house. There has been recent disasters with similar batteries for rental scooters, first a fire when stored in a basement, the battery packs and charging location was then moved to an older building without other shops and shortly after it burned.
Would cylindrical cells do the same over time? Or the shape of the cells are more likely to swell and leak in the pouch over the cylinder?
After about 3 year of working for my girlfriends uncle building houses. I’ll tell you right now battery power is going to be on ever site running almost most tools if it isn’t already. I mean you can’t beat an air gun (pneumatic) doing stuff like decking. But a year in I bought the 60v dewalt circular saw. And it is now one of the most asked tools on jobs we do. I remember my girlfriends uncle thinking it wouldn’t rip an LVL beam. And his face at the end made me love the tool even more. He loves his corded makita but battery is the way to go. Now the battery is super heavy so you pay for that butttttttt (drum roll) POWER STACK!!!! Have about a weeks worth of testing so far and my god…. They are all the hype. Let’s see how they hold up
Powerstack is not the big shift. It's definitely a helpful bump and it'll be interesting to see what new tools and applications we'll see but everyone's been running cordless at least 7 years
The ergonomics and the overthinking in a good way to make the experience of the end user a lot more comfortable and confident enough to tackle new and challenging project; is what got me to switch platform, after watching the full 23 min. of video thank you so miuch Stan n the Flex guys.
Wow the dust port on that circular saw is amazing. I got a dust port on mine and stuff still goes flying everywhere!
I know the safety feature (kickback control) from my blue bosch professional cordless hammer drill... and it saved my wrist several times as well as it prevented me from being tossed of the ladder when hitting a beam with the hole saw under the wood sheeting in the stairway at our house
and why an impact is easily controlled with one hand or a few fingers... because it does not use permanen torque but radial impacts to get the screw in... simple as that
too bad FLEX does not offer those tools over here in Austria but they seem to be tough tools and pretty good
FLEX are hit and miss, their definitely a step above Ryobi but their not on the same playing field as Milwaukee, Makita or DeWalt. They have quite a few tools that are either much bulkier/heavier and not as powerful in real world usages, & the only guy i know who runs FLEX on the construction site has already had to warrant 6 of his 9 batterys (2yrs old)
meanwhile i've never warrantied a single one of my Milwaukee batterys even some of my old 8-9 year old 5.0's are still running good
and my co-woker who is DeWalt has only ever had 3 warranty claims on his flexvolt batterys in that same 2yr time period.
So their catching up but their still quite a ways behind the big 3 in reliability and portability for the power
I’m so glad you did this video @Stan.. I’ve been seeing a ton of @Flex in our Lowes here in southern Ky.. I just thought it was a cheap knock off of something else.. but Holy Crap.. every bit of what you just showed ( even the spyder bit which I’ve seen/wondered about as well ).. was ALL phenomenal with this new battery technology.. The only thing I didn’t hear you ask, which you normally do, was the price point.. Any idea on that? Great video as usual brother!! Stay blessed!!
There was so many different tools I didn't have time to cover pricing on all of them so I focused on testing if the battiers actually do what they say
That auger bit going through longitudinally at that speed was absolutely INSANE... Once you keep it straight it just plunges through it like nothing!
quality brand new auger bits do that.
Having battery powered tools on the job site can save 8hrs a week in set-up & take-down time. Back 25yrs ago, we had to run electrical cords from an onsite temporary power poll, or a generator sometimes 250' or more! That's especially challenging for a job site that's covered 4 to 8" of mud! Sometimes I thought I was terraforming on the other planet.
The flex live stream hasn’t even started and Stanley is already on the job giving us the info!
I think the live stream starts here in a little bit
@@Dirtmonkey where is the live thing i havent heard anything about it and google doesnt show it
found it
Impressive. I really like the push buttton impact. I like the 6.5 inline circ saw made by flex, but there wasn't anything else to interest me until now. The new battery tech, the impact and the recip saw are looking pretty good now.
Dewalt was the first, last October
You gonna piss my wife off cause I'm gonna want to buy a whole new set of power tools now lol
It's not a circular saw, its it's worm drive. They're all torque. It's It's good saw but people seemed to be confused in the comments. It's not as impressive as if a circular saw had cut through the 3ply plywood like that.
It's a worm gear circular saw, refers to circle motion of the blade, reciprocating refers to back and forth blade, oscillating is a oval action
Love to see them use same setup on drill but do a couple other manufacturers for bits as comparison. It would make their claim so much better.
Spyder makes great bits I like HD stores better than Lowes but spyder is a great brand
Watching these guys who clearly don't do anything trade related miss use these tools and they STILL performed amazing is really remarkable. I'd be curious to know how durable they are over their life time as I know they're quite a bit more expensive than even milwaukee.
Flex tools are quite a bit cheaper than milwaukee tools. Even their stacked lithium kits are cheaper than the outdated m18 xc kits.
@@richboii6597 Yea Milwaukee has had some serious price increases since the last time I priced them. It's due to it all being made in China and logistics cost are just crap right now. I use milwaukee for around the house stuff (12volt) & I love it, but if Flex is coming in cheaper and performing this well the only question now is dependability. I know my milwaukee stuff will be going a decade from now due to my light use and well cared for battery charging area (climate control is key)
@@richboii6597had flex increased their prices recently or has Milwaukee come down? They are the same price in store now, maybe you can find special promotions on line...
I’m a big light guy … got like 3 Milwaukee towers , 2 1500 floods , headlamps and a few magnet lights from them and Nebo… but once he took the light head off with the battery …. Take my money …. As an electrician and at home mechanic/ motor mechanic , take my money
Hey Stan do you know if they are coming out with any nail guns or other tools they may be having?
I like the way Flex design their portable LED light! Its so much different then other brands!
If it is tough than I think that will be the best rocket light out there.
@@Dirtmonkey 1 major info missed out, with the external cable plug in capability, what is the weather/water proof rating for that rocket light?
I use 20v dewalt tools every day and the amount of abuse they can take is amazing. I know I shouldn’t do it but I can’t count how many times my impact driver has been used as a hammer to get boards knocked into position and the Dewalts keep on working…
It’s called a scrammer and you should absolutely be able to use your screwdriver as a hammer 🔨. We don’t want to carry a hammer around if we don’t have too!
No
Same with Milwaukee. They both have good tools if you buy the expensive option. dewalt is a tough competitor.
It's called gun hammer
Flex is like snap on for mechanics,it costs more so obviously it's 300 percent better .. I call bullshit
Um that’s not a 3/8” auger bit lol...did he mean 1-3/8”?
9:43 the guy not knowing to put the guard up to the wood just kills me😂
The pouches swell due to gas generation during high discharge and fast charging. Swelling pouches are a major fire hazard. The reason the other guys switched to cylinders is for safety and longevity of the battery pack.
The cells in the dewalt power stack are made by a German manufacturer purely for this kind of application, these aren’t regular lipo cells
@@susann4209 but do they swell?
All pouches swell, flex has stated they gave more than enough free space for the swelling, they only need 7% extra free space, flex added 15%
Was looking for this comment. Totally agree.
As a Milwaukee fan boy I love that you can plug that light in via a cord and there’s plug ins for your phone and such. Really nice feature👌
I love that you can pull the top light off and move it around.
Being able to pull the top light off is cool, my M18 tower light has male female a/c and a port for charging phones
Always enjoys these vids as I live in the sticks and never get to demo's like these!
The FLEX tool line seems to be pretty impressive!!! I wish they would have brought their tool storage system.
Nice advance showing & testing Stan, definitely worth looking into. Just wonder about initial cost & then longevity?
I have a set of Flex tools from when it launched in 2020 and They are Franky's favorites. So longeveity has been good up to now.
And they have a lifetime tool-replacement program.
From flying racing drones I know lipo pouch cells can deliver massive amounts of power but they don't really hold up very well over alot of use. As much as power tool batteries cost I would rather a battery with a longer life over the highest performance.
Good point- It will be interesting to see if they hold up long term
@@Dirtmonkey do you pay for the drill spade bit
@@Dirtmonkey do you buy the drill bit in the video
@@jeremynguyen2346 nah he straight up stole it
@@Josiahdrews1466 how do you know
* gets out credit card and bangs it on the table *
😂👍
I bought a Flex set a couple weeks ago. So far I love them and haven't touched my DeWalt tools since.
Flex needs a 10" table saw and 10 & 12" sliding miter saws. They also need a router, nail guns, and sanders. This list would really make them a serious alternative. Milwaukee, dewalt, and makita just have so much depth that even where they may have less power they can cover all your needs.
your wish is coming true
I'd like to see Flex come out with a power station like E-Go has, but also how long their smallest battery would take to charge using solar.
That'd be pretty cool
That salesman doesn't understand how elastic trickery pixies work. 🤣🤣
The tests are useless if they aren't testing side by side against competitor's tools. I'll believe it when I see them compare better on a Project Farm video.
The 18 inch auger and hammer drill impressed 👌 I have been impressed with my Flex hammer drill with turbo so far
I am not completely sold because it takes time to see the life of the battery pack and it’s capacity to hold a charge .
Other batteries made huge claims too . Cylindrical batteries are rolled up where the block is just the same lithium sheet but folded flat on itself. Nothing really stands out other than that. And it also depends on the gearing ratios .
Only time will tell
Thank you for sharing this
Neither am i those tools are good but no video shows them put to the limit. Flat battery tech is still on the fence.
Dewalt has had good results with the power stack batteries.
So what kind of tests do you look for? Like the test of time? see if the batteries hold up long term.
@@Dirtmonkey
yeah if i im going to buy a tool cataglog its gotta be dependable and durable
can i throw my 1/2 impact in a tool box time and time or not worry about that battery like samsung, see what fails in the tool if it will
@@Dirtmonkey Pouch batteries have better bang for their buck there is no lie about that. Pouch batteries utilize around %90-%95 of their available space giving more power for less space. Also, the casing of cell-type batteries adds weight so you get the benefit from pouch-type batteries you get more charge for the same amount of space it weighs less. Pouch cells also do have less internal resistance increasing the amount of current that can be delivered from such a battery and you can actually draw quite a large amount of current from pouch-type batteries.
Also, recent advancements in pouch-type batteries have eliminated a large amount of the risk although it is still there. There are new regulations that manufacturers need to uphold and a pouch-type battery must be able to have a nail puncture through them without catching fire or exploding. These types of batteries are safer and more reliable than ever and do offer advantages over cell-type batteries. And as long as their enclosure is built to handle that type of battery there is little risk as pouch-type batteries do offer the same life span as cell type while also being able to dump more current, have more power for less space, and not weighing as much as cell batteries. Yes, they will have the same approx life span as a cell type. Although, cell type has the advantage of having a hardened metal casing around the cell, however, this has become less of an issue with advancements in the pouch format.
The truth is cell-type batteries have pretty much hit the peak in the amount of power they can hold and discharge, while pouch-type continues to have advancements in the amount of current they can continuously provide and their charge density. They have become more durable and safer in recent years making them more desired in consumer electronics. Some of the stuff they said is true they have less resistance meaning more current delivery they can charge faster than cell-type batteries and recent advancements have them charging faster than ever and they can hold more energy for the same unit volume.
Don't get me wrong cell-type has its place and won't be going anywhere for a long time, however, pouch-type does have some clear advantages over cell-type and cell type has the advantage of having a metal casing around them making them less likely to be punctured or ruptured although it does still happen.
Dude what a great Video Sir!! Keep up on delivering such great content !!!
Thank you! I'll try my best
Really interesting. What will the price difference be with other brands?
I think most of the top brand power tools are pretty similar nowadays besides a couple features here and there. The sauce is in the batteries, along with using quality attachments(would the Irwin bit perform as well as the Spyder?). So the tool companies are competing for the best battery performance/attachments. FLEX stuff looks pretty good so far but I’m already heavily invested in RED tools. We’ll see how FLEX holds up after a couple more years
I agree with Kellysahy2850, and I'm also heavily invested in Red... I'm not saying that Flex is not good, as I think it is good... I'm just on a different platform.
There is something to be said for brand name and history. The newest might be the greatest, but it has to earn that reputation where you trust the brand name.
I've been a DeWalt user since 1993. 9.6, 19, 36, now 20. Each time I had to buy different tools to be able to get new batteries and chargers. Flex has made a HUGE good idea to keep the same voltage/battery pack. I don't know that I'll switch though. I've got a lot of money invested in tools and I've started rebuilding my own battery packs even switching to LiPoFe batteries because when the BMS in the 36v fails it is as expensive as a new battery that you can't get any way. Yes, LiPoFe has less energy density and have their own needs but no BMS needed.
DeWalt has this same setup for the 20v systems
Take it into a dewalt dealer they will probably replace it for free. I’ve gotten at least 10 tools and batteries replaced for free. A lot of people don’t know that.
I got mine and I've been using it in my Jobsite for a while now. I got 10ah Stack Lithium Battery in there too and I paired the saw with Makita Max Efficiency ATAF-R Ultra Thin Kerf 7-1/4" saw blade. And the saw cuts like a Laser Beam or a Plasma Cutter. It's a dream of having a circular saw with this much power, overwhelming power and torque. This Flex rear handle outperformed my good ole Bosch CSW41 worm drive and my good ole Makita 5377 magnesium Hypoid Saw. Meanwhile my good ole Makita XSR01 rear handle 36V saw is only for metal cutting I got Diablo 48T Steel Demon saw blade in there. I'm gonna be converting my Bosch CSW41 worm drive for beam cutter I'm gonna install Prazi Beam cutter.
The recip saw moved fairly slow but there was very little vibration. At same time both speed and vibration is probably acted by amount of pressure
Oh man nice stuff, These guys need to come out with a power inverter like dewalt has! if its 1920w for one batt, that could be a powerhouse system.
Love watching your videos!
Thanks for tuning in bud.
This is actually really impressive, I guess DeWalt has some serious competition... Gunna have to look at some in person n fell n see if they seem cheap
I replaced my DeWalt tools with Flex a few weeks ago. I'll never buy another DeWalt product as long as Flex keeps making tools of this quality.
This is the comment I am posting everywhere possible:
Bought this Flex pack out a few months ago. Used on three projects. The latches between the top box and the middle box kept hanging up or not locking. Soooo, tried to call company service to get a fix. Wasn't asking for anything but a tech to walk me through the fix(maybe a replacement latch?). First, good luck getting through, they DON"T answer their phones. After a half hour hold the message comes on offering a call back. No choice gotta grow old on the phone or give up. No call back, so the next day I try again, same deal, but this time I get a call back. Pleasant young lady hears the problem and takes all my info and says they are sending a new replacement unit!! Of course nothing took place, NO Replacement Unit, No Latches, NO NOTHING!!!! The product seems to be well made except for these few minor issues, however I would never recommend buying a Flex product. They have no customer loyalty. I no longer care to upgrade my tool platform to your products, as I was considering your power tool line. Not anymore.
These guys should be paying you 100k per video. These type of videos are priceless to a company. I’m a Milwaukee guy but this almost had me think twice
Sick video Stan, always looked the other way when offered a deal with off branded tooling, this video proves me wrong.
My conclusion is seems great, newer technology, but what happens when red,blue and yellow get a hold of the PATENT and produce a similar output device? Thanks Stan, you rock! 👊
They'll be able to compete when the patent runs out. But CHERVON, they will already have a newer product working or ready for market.
Anybody can say what they want .but the battery tech ( ego,flex , even the Skil being a lower brand is very good) is above everyone it appears.
Although, I still luv me some Makita, and other brands for certain tools. I'm a firm believer in having several different brands. Why? Cu when on a job site you may have to help out other guys who run out of battery power. And it doesn't hurt your reputation to have it available for those guys if needed.
Yellow is already on it. They put out the flat stack first. But yeah looking forward to see Milwaukee do it
@@adwhite804 you run every manufacturer so when your on a jobsite full of tools who didn't recharge their batteries before bedtime can use yours? That's cool, if you like kissing °ss. Most professionals run 2, maybe 3 brands because some work better in certain situations. Yeah this eco tool is alright but bring it on site for a year, mud, rain, snow, dirt. Curious on warrantied parts being replaced in efficient manner and seems like the tool made itself look good not the people who were running it from the company, they were the real tools 😉
@@thomasr1051 cool story brother
@@Tannertraversed they have a lifetime replacement of their tools if bought before the end of 2022, they will replace the battery up to 5 times. Otherwise it's still 5 yrs which is still better or equal to the top 4
Apparently, flex brought back the lifetime warranty till end of this year. But with all these intentional shortages, any company can have the latest and the greatest. It’s all no good if the consumer can’t buy it because of some stupid shortages. I’m so tried hear this.. I would like to have seen a miter saw..
Oh crud- I forgot to ask about that
What's the price point on the stacked lithium as well as the tools? Are they competitive or are the stacked double the price of the regular?
Okay the auger bit got me. That’s impressive!
Hey Stan, The drill was impressive however was it the tool or was it the bit that made the light work of the wood? I would like to see a comparison with the same tool different drill bit or different tool and the newer bit. Thinking the latter will be just as impressive. Hope I am wrong. Thanks Stan, God bless!
It was a good bit for sure but the tool did all the heavy lifting in those one.
Heard their new batteries make a huge difference
The bit is a big part of it but you need a drill with enough power to run it
@@Dirtmonkey please find out if they are going to make a Track saw and a 12" miter saw?
Yeah.... those Spyder bits are really awesome.... but that is a good question.... cuz those bits are game changers as well ..,
All I know is that I have used every cordless drill and impact. I've always liked DeWalt, but have bought em all. I dropped my DeWalt impact in the lake. Went to get a new one and the new DeWalt 20v was $20 less than the Flex. It only had the one battery and a charger, and the box looked like the packaging of a cheap toy. Flex had a 5 and a 2 amp/hr battery and charger.
This thing is a beast. It is the strongest and fastest impact driver I have ever used.
nice, here it costs at least 2 times more, and they offer only pink, grey look so cool :)
I agree. My Flex impact doesn't start impacting until much later than my DeWalt would. But I like that it feels much smoother when the motor starts up
You have used every one? There is like 30 different impacts on the market I doubt you have used them all. And hilti is about 10x better than dewalt. If you say dewalt is the best impact before you tried flex then you definitely haven’t used very many because dewalt is not the best.
@@gsaexperience8578 I partially agree. DeWalt is far from the best. I bought a Flex and will never pick up my DeWalt impact again. Maybe to move it out of the way. I haven't had much experience with Hilti, but the few people I know who've had them didn't speak highly of them.
@@gsaexperience8578 Hilti? No way. They once had a name but they aren't that good anymore. Especially for the price.
Stan's expression 1st drill bit (18"?) Priceless... stunned🤯
Just bought the hammer drill and impact driver 2 1/2 hrs ago, we'll see.
I need the hammer function to work for installing windows in block all the time and my rigid impact couldn't handle the tapcons anymore. It could just be my batteries, but it was time to upgrade, and I thought with the lifetime warranty on all tools sold before the end of the year it was worth it. They didn't come with the stacked lithium batteries though.
The drill did look good and I actually just got my first Flex tool last week, the 1/2 inch high torque impact wrench. I also have the Dewalt 60v mixing drill and joist drill and they have a crazy amount of torque but not really a fair comparison I guess. They also weigh a ton compared to this little drill.
Did you get the new battery system with the flex?
@Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek it has the old 5.0 ah battery but certainly doesn't lack power getting massive lug nuts off my box truck. Worth it not fighting with the big old breaker bar!
I was checking flex out the other day and almost bought the impact now im definitely gonna grab one.. curious to see how they stand up to Milwaukee
Judging by the design, I bet it will perform exactly like milwaukee. I bet it may even be a milwaukee company in a different outfit. (Carbon copy)
They trade blows with the old battery tech so I'm assuming with these new batteries flex will win hands down
@@WILDBOYZ flex is actually a brand of the same company that makes kobalt power tools
stan hows the cutting edges doing from winter equipment on the westren plow ????
LOVE them- best thing yet- still highly recommend
Hi Matt, Tyler and Zach 😃, great job with the demos! 💯
Definitely should have used a different brand bit, or some old bits. You can stick a bit in most tools and they feel like new. That's the main thing I wish was done, so we can have a comparison, mabey the Milwaukee fuel line in a VS match.
I don't think any bit would make that much of a difference. it was like the tool wasn't even trying as it drilled.
Watch the vs tonight if you want to see flex vs Milwaukee
That would be pretty funny to see high end battery tools using the cheapest or most generic blades, bits... just awful stuff we all start from.
Would have been nice to see this backwards capability and battery technology tested against the older batteries.
I'd also love to see a new and old battery of the same size be tested by an electronics CZcams channel where the load can be controlled and measured before I believe there claim of improved power AND simultaneous improved endurance.
Sounds like you know what your looking for- maybe you should do the test and film it. I bet a lot of people would be interested in hard facts like that. I was wondering how you quantify with precision 200%, 300% and those other performance increases.
@@Dirtmonkey I know just enough to know what smarter people should test.
I have neither the test equipment nor the film equipment to undertake such a project, but the tests themselves can somewhat easily verify the claims or disprove them.
The most basic of tests can be a simple as taking a new battery of the older technology and one of the new technology of equal capacities and then from a full charge running a single tool until flat and timing it.
Swap the old for the new battery into the same tool and repeat.
If their claim stands true, the new battery technology should last three times as long as the old in the exact same device.
A more sophisticated method is to replace their tools with a synthetic load and place measuring equipment between the load and the battery so that voltage and current can be measured precisely.
It's then a matter of calculating the maximum discharge rate along with endurance of a sustained discharge of the batteries followed by a little maths to determine the actual percentages.
I'm not sure if battery testing is quite within his scope, but "Big Clive" from the United Kingdom is one CZcamsr that I follow who likes to pull electronics apart and reverse engineer.
He might be a better source to reach out to than I if you want better info.
Here's one of his videos on a clone of a Ryobi battery.
czcams.com/video/rN7XOAhjdnI/video.html
project farm is the one to do the testing you're describing.
DeWalt has also gone to this stacked cell technology they call power stack or something like that and they also are making some pretty impressive claims
the endurance they're talking about is the number of charge-discharge cycles the cells can handle, as a cell is subjected to more of them its Ah rating decreases over time (until the battery can't hold any charge). it's not a runtime claim but a life-expectancy claim. I think the sales reps got the terms mixed up.
Good Evening Stan. The Flex tools looks good all around from what I have heard and seen. Great reviews!!
This was the most impressive upgrades I have seen to a tool line
Stan I put up a lot of banners on poles and I use those timber loc screws to hold the bottom of the banner to the pole. You don’t realize how powerful those drivers are until you you get you fingers between the screw and the pole
That sounds like it would hurt Fast.
OUCH! Ya gots ta be careful!
Gotta love the “Elon Tabs” technology 🤣
Thats what it sounds like they may be using in these tools. They have an expandable tab that prevents the tool from overheating or something along those lines
Very impressive. Amazing how far battery technology in power tools has come. I found the drill and impact driver most impressive. Definitely has the torque to sink those large and long auger bits in quickly. I can see these being a real time saver on the jobsite. Thank you for the in-depth look, Stan. Flex is really getting rolling with a bunch of momentum. Taking on the big guys like Dewalt, Milwaukee, and Makita.
I think those other brands just got passed up.
@@Dirtmonkey lets wait a bit to see how durable and reliable Flex tools are before we take that jump!
@@Dirtmonkey Definitely impressive, but my no means do they pass up other brands. As a resi sparky I can say with certainty that the DeWalt XR would be on par if not better especially with a FlexVolt battery and that's with my old bits that have been unprofessionally sharpened a few times lol.
I've haven't got a chance to try the 40v Makita XGT drill yet but apparently it's similar to the DeWalt. XGT stuff is in Hilti price territory though so gotta factor that in.
@@Dirtmonkey DeWalt did the same thing with power stack yeah that got a 1.7 ah power stack now and there was leaked pictures going on in information of a 5.0 ah DeWalt power stack battery
I’m already invested in a different brand so I’ll probably never own a Flex tool, but I’ve seen them use a Flex saw while literally immersed in a fish tank. Now that’s impressive.
A few questions here..1 that I'm not sure if you covered is do you need to buy a new charger for the new batteries or will the original charger work. Also flex is known to overheat...what are they doing about that. yes I have the 1371 impact driver and so far I really like it.
the squint safety glasses. my favorite
😂👍
How dose the extra power effect the life of the older motors ? Most of my experience is that over powering a motor burns it up !
I don't know. I didn't get to test that
Your not overpowering the motor, same voltage just more of it. Capacity wise.
@@mitchdenner9743 maybe I’m wrong but I was always taught that to increase power from and electric motor you had to either increase voltage or amperage which increases heat , and their description of the battery design only reduces resistance ( flow) which I agree will extend back life and power but increasing power inThe motor has to be an increase in amperage!
@@littlehuey5679 yes, more amps better performance, longer battery life , less resistance = less heat. Pretty sure the lack of resistance in the batteries is the main improvement that facilitates the better performance
That battery they showed in the beginning in the drill was 1920 watts which at 24 volts equates to 80 amps! Thats a lot of juice for a drill.
Hilti been selling tools with about the same specs for years. Issue with Flex\Hilti batteries is that they are considerably larger & heavier than other tool batteries, which improves power and runtime.
I see that and agree
I replaced my DeWalt tools with Flex and I agree, they are a bit heavier. However after using them for a few weeks, I still prefer the Flex.
@@NathanaelD Hilti cordless tools are better then Flex.
@@guytech7310 that's your opinion
Ave needs to do a tool breakdown
only 14 days to flatten the GAS PRICE CURVE... let's make this go VIRAL....
What does that mean?
@@Dirtmonkey it's a reference to the covid.... but HIGH GAS PRICES THAT ARE KILLING US.
Might have to buy two impacts for my upcoming gutter season. And review them at the end of the year on my YT channel. I use my dewalts all day everyday so i could put them to the test. Thanks Stan
Do ittt
@@Dirtmonkey Alright I'm committing to do it, on one contingency you gotta subscribe so you don't miss it!!🙂
WOWZER, to be 20 yrs younger and have those toys, Master of the World, hehehe.
I'm with you. Tools now adays are light years ahead of where we were a few years back.
Looking forward to Project Farm doing a review of these
Very impressed with those tools. Another great video. Thank you Stan. Love watching.
Glad your here Andy
On the first cut with the circular saw he was only cutting 2 of the 3 sheets of plywood, otherwise I was throughly impressed.
I seen that- thats why I did it a second and third time
OSB is not even close to real plywood.
Either their blades are junk or that one handed reciprocating saw is extremely unimpressive.
I was running it one handed to show how smooth it is. That wasn't a power test- more of a can I run this with one hand test if that makes sense.
The one handed saws generally have a shorter blade stroke than larger saws. And in reality, these one handed saws are really for plumbers and electricians to cut pvc and conduit etc. Stick with a full size saw for wood.
@@Dirtmonkey I was watching how little it seemed to be vibrating. That was impressive. I was just commenting on their wood/nail blade that seemed really underwhelming compared to like a Diablo. But if they are a shorter stroke, that would make sense that it can't eat through like a regular reciprocating saw can. Thanks for the reply/clarification!
Thanks for the review Stan appreciate you
What is the baseline they are getting these percentages from? Very important.
Interesting and somewhat impressed with the initial performance. I've been a lifelong Makita 18v cordless tool family (with a couple 36v in there) contractor. The Flex tools I have tested at the store are bulky and just don't have the right balance/feel. My biggest question will continue to have is reliability and longevity. My cordless sawzall has lasted me over 8 years of regular use and abuse, it finally has developed a loose connection but still rips when you bump it right. Good video Stan
Only time will tell if they last as long as the yellow and red guys
Huh, their dimensions are almost exactly the same, or smaller than Milwaukee. The saw is revolutionary. It's extremely compact compared to other offerings, and used a design never used before. The motor isn't sticking way out the side. Definitely not bulky. I'm really wondering what you're talking about, and I can't find any one of their tools that has any dimension larger than Milwaukee. Not overall height, width, length, diameters, inscribed circle, or any other dimension.
That saw was definitely impressive in this video, but not everyone prefers to use a 7 1/4. It has it's place in a stable of tools, but I honestly haven't found much in our 30 years that we couldn't also do with a much smaller and lighter saw. We always used a corded 5 1/4 until cordless became reliable enough. We have used the 6 1/2 since then with little to no complaints. Once in a blue moon more power would be appreciated but it's a great tradeoff. Look at the specs/ dimensions. Makita has always had some of the smallest footprint impact drivers on the market. Milwaukee has definitely matched them and now produce more power. The Flex are definitely larger. As well as the larger battery platform. For my personal business, the bulk of it is remodeling, I don't care to lug around a large tool all day to bump into things or to drag with me in an attic. For the tightest jobs I rely on 12v tools if possible. Like I said in my previous post, there has to be a good balance as well and to me, Makita has it. Plus, I'm already invested in that battery platform. If I had to change, Milwaukee would be next on my list. Flex may be coming on strong, but at the moment, it's unproven in the grand scheme and feels like Lowe's Ridgid. God bless y'all
That will be the true test ( time ). I also don’t like the big bulky size
So the flex hammer drill & impact driver combo kit was beating out most competitors with power so when you add the lithium stacked batteries I can imagine they are gonna perform alot better .
They performed better than any tool I have used
I've got the Flex 6-1/2" belt drive circular saw and I like it a lot (not the 7-1/4" shown). I don't have any stacked batteries. As a leftie, I am glad to AT LAST have a really good sight line in front of the motor to the blade from the right side. The visibility makes cutting WAY more comfortable. And the adjustable dust port is great. The saw feels very well made-quality materials and finish. I enjoy using it more than any other circular saw I have tried in my 40 plus years of woodworking. FYI, I checked out the 7-1/4" Flex saw, and the view of the blade is much more limited from the right side.
Project farm needs to test more of these.
The only thing im genuinely impressed with is the tower light. Very different and well thought out. But im sticking with DeWalt
Dewalt sucks for some time now
Love the towers features
I was a DeWalt guy for a long time. After they a few of my higher end DeWalt tools died on me way too early, I made the switch to Flex. Happy to say I'll never buy another DeWalt tool as long as Flex maintains the quality they offer right now.
@@NathanaelD chervon plus lifetime warranty...nuff said
Would love to know how extensively they tested these batteries on their old model tools... Seems like it could put more strain on the tool its self no? Also... Stacked batteries aren't new but are also more dangerous. Any damage to a battery pouch could cause major fires as they don't have vent holes like standard lithium ion batteries. I would also hope that they have temp and voltage protection on those batteries so they don't swell and blow up (like the Samsung note 7 incident). Those new tools do look like they shred though but as always I'll be waiting till they've been on the market for a while before getting any!!!
its not because the pouch cells dont have vent holes, its because its just a different chemistry wich is a bit more explosive.
Im on over 200 cars and trucks with my Flex 3401 polisher. By far the best in the industry !
Pretty good analogy with the stacked cells