Tiktok's Blindfold Tattoo Artist is Teaching Her 12 Year Old To Tattoo
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- Tiktok's Blindfold Tattoo Artist is Teaching Her 12 Year Old To Tattoo
Today we're talking about ariel dejesus AKA Tiktok's blindfold tattoo artist who is teaching her 12 year old to tattoo. Surprisingly Ariel isn't the only tattoo artist teaching her 12 year old to tattoo. Today we're getting into the ethics and sketchy legal implications of teaching her 12 year old to tattoo. Enjoy :)
0:00 Introduction
1:08 Ariel DeJesus
3:20 Health Department
4:37 12 Year Old Tattooing
7:30 12 Year Old Working
8:55 Child Left Alone
12:04 Blindfold Tattoo Class
14:03 Lily Lu
15:14 Maya Lu
16:46 Children on Social Media
18:47 German Regulations
19:18 Ethics
20:23 Final Thoughts
See you next week! 💛
Tiktok's Blindfold Tattoo Artist is Teaching Her 12 Year Old To Tattoo
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i actually think it’s fair for a 12 year old to be learning to tattoo but only on fake skin and stuff. they definitely shouldn’t be tattooing other people or themselves
I agree... But also, if the client (adult) is comfortable with it, then it's sort of "your body, your choice" to me. Personally, I wouldn't get tattooed by her until she was at least 21, but at that point she'll have roughly 10 years experience tattooing, plus (hopefully 🤞) a few years experience in an ACTUAL tattoo studio
I wouldn’t want to disagree too much. However, when we enter a tattoo studio, (at least in the uk) the implications are that 2 consenting adults enter a contract which is most times signed with an informed consent form.
As you agree to be subject of a health procedure which (in rare cases) may lead to serious health outcomes. HIV/hepatitis and or other diseases. Therefore, if we assume a 12 YO not to be able to legally take charge of their bodies and legal status (we don’t let them vote, drive, hospitalise themselves, fly alone, and have sex), then is without saying that they cannot have legal authority on someone else’s body. Furthermore, normally, the insurance policy and the council license are issued to the name of a legally adult person, hence, a 12 yo cannot be in charge of a tattoo gun. Regardless of “my body my choice”
Would you be happy with a 12 yo cutting you open with a scalpel? I assume you would not be.
The freedom of choice would apply if the person got privately tattooed in their homes, which are not public businesses. Ciao
@@artist91fb although I do agree with the liability issue, comparing it to surgery sounds like an apples/oranges argument to me. Again, as an adult, I am (hopefully) free to make whatever choices I want while taking the risks into consideration.
Definitely agreed there like there isn’t anything wrong with her actually learning the trade but she definitely shouldn’t be working
Idk. It feels like a safety issue for sure. They're using something that can cause serious damage and 12 year olds do not have the capacity to always be careful and cautious. 15/16, sure, 12 not so much imo.
A child being left alone in a shop where there are strangers involved scares me a lot. Everything else horrific about Ariel aside, that’s just insane to me.
I’m not a parent but I get both sides of the stranger part of the story but for years we send our children to school with teachers we don’t really know so I say the teachers are considered strangers so where does being with strangers in some situations ok but in others not ok come from yes I get it’s a preteen in a tattoo shop but would you be up in arms if a parent left their child with a teacher because they had to go do something quickly just a thought
In general, i think a 12 year old can be left alone. Just not in a tattoo shop. Certainly not while tattooing someone.
Most states do allow 12 year olds to stay home alone and even babysit, but that's at their home or someone else's home, not in a tattoo shop (and not while tattooing people!).
I don't get how she never dealt with CPS or the cops. Parents have had them at their door for waaay less, sometimes for ridiculous reasons (like a 10 year old was in their own yard without an adult and a passerby just assumed that the kid MUST be locked out instead of wanting to do their homework in the fresh air). Meanwhile, this woman literally leaves her daughter alone in a tattoo shop to TATTOO PEOPLE (and has been doing so since she was much younger than 12) and gets away with it?
I wouldn't leave my 12yo brother alone in our small local convenience store
I see so many artists talk about pain caused by years of tattooing in their hands and backs and I can’t help but think about how that cannot be good for a child who is still growing. 🐥
that's a great point
This is where social media can be useful. It's good to warn people about bad tattooers like this.
Its a double edged sword because now their social media post serve as Inspiration for irresponsible parents /tattooists.
Probably reaching a wide audience of people who would go to her because it's cheap.
As a German learning that what Maya Lu does is somehow legal is wild. Usually we are very strict regarding youth work laws, health code, etc. I'm sure they are taking advantage of some kind of loophole or outdated laws
Same here. When I first heard of this I couldn't believe that something like this could exist.
We have legislation trying to lower the age requirements or increase the hours. Last year a 16 year old died in a poultry plant in Mississippi. Working. It's wild here. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@@liloreoinya us politicians really thing that the children yearn for the mines huh...
@@brook_angel But remember, hide the gays and the trans-people to protect the kids /s
That's exactly what she says. Watch again and listen carefully. Schnell, amigo Deutscher ! 😉
I'm not sure about who's showing poorer judgement , Ariel or the clients who allow themselves to be exposed to this horrific & dangerous practice.
It's really weird. I've met some people who just don't seem to know that there's WAYYYY better out there. I've personally had friends (down in Florida where shitty shops are a dime a dozen) show me tattoos they're SUPER proud of and I'm like 😳😬😐 yeah,that looks so good 🙃
The mother. The clients aren’t far behind but it’s definitely Ariel as she is the one responsible for her daughter.
How is Ariel teaching ANYBODY how to tattoo?!?! Are people not seeing her work? These people are signing up for failure, and if they try to apply to a shop and say they were taught by Ariel, they’d probably get laughed at and get told to leave.
It looked more like one of those paint and sip classes lol
As someone who works in a tattoo studio in the UK, it’s terrifying to learn how unregulated tattooing seems to be in certain states?? The no license required thing is wild to me
I live in Texas and am seeking apprenticeship, and was also shocked how little there was for me to do in order to prepare. I felt like I must have missed something, because there's no way it just takes a half hour of BBP reading online lol
That's pretty much the heart of US politics, states rights vs federal (country) rights. Every state has different licensing laws for EVERYTHING, including doctors and other licensed positions. Which is... so questionable. But I'm in a strict licensing state so I have no idea what Texas is doing, ever.
It depends on the state
Freedom dammit- 🇺🇸 USA!! 😅 ☠️
"Wild" used to signify something really good. I think it's a huge shame that people use it to describe something bad these days. Gotta say, am not a fan of contempory slang. It seems like people don't have a good sense of what's cool anymore.
her tattooing skills not being the best and the blindfolded stuff being a little weird is whatever.... but her completely disregarding important hygiene standards is not acceptable at all. wiping two different people´s tattoos with the same paper towel is fucking diabolical, same goes for her clothes touching multiple people´s fresh open wounds. stealing other people´s art is also not cool at all but that´s not nearly as bad as risking spreading infections and illnesses from clients to others
Hi, I'm from Germany and can talk a little bit about tattoo rights.
Children under the age of 14 are not allowed to work in Germany. But that doesn't mean that they can do all kinds of jobs. Jobs that children are allowed to do are for example letter carrier or babysitter. From the age of 15, they are allowed to start an apprenticeship (for example in a craft profession). Children or teenagers have to have gone to school for at least 10 years before they can get an apprenticeship.
In tattooing it is common, I'm not sure if it is a law, that you can only learn the profession from the age of 18. However, anyone can order a tattoo machine and tattoo themselves at home, but if you tattoo others from home you get a warning and a fine.
We don't have real tattoo licenses in Germany. However, we do have a health authority that restricts a lot.
Otherwise, children in Germany are very well protected, and the youth welfare office does a lot to protect children from child labor (Youth Protection Law).
So does that mean basically what she is doing is legal?
@@FragranceEuphoria not necessarily. depends on a) whether or not there's a law forbidding people to tattoo clients under a certain age or to tattoo in general, b) how many hours lily's daughter is working in the tattoo shop, c) if she gets paid for her work, d) what the safety requirements and actual circumstances are, (c) if her daughter is old enough to make legal decisions necessary for tattooing people etc. etc.
There's always a point in these situations where I don't feel bad for the clients anymore. There is SO MUCH information and video evidence about Ariel being a terrible tattoo artist with terrible practices... If you don't do the most BASIC research on your artists before you book them, that's on you.
Kids tattooing clients is beyond insane to me. If you want to let your own child tattoo you, that's your choice. But risking your business, your reputation, or anything going wrong with your clients OR YOUR CHILD? Nah.
Small note, but I was so uncomfortable watching a young teenage girl tattooing a grown (stranger) man's VERY upper thigh while cameras are shoved in her face.
In their tight underwear! 🤢🤢 I just left a comment about it. Creeps in their damn underwear like it's impossible to wear shorts!! Sickos
Omg same about the last part! I felt so icky, he was in his boxers and you could see his hairs coming out of the leg openings 😖 could he not have at least used a towel or something?
Thank you so much for bringing more awareness to this! I felt so sad hearing the little daughter say "I've never been here alone before" and to be honest she never looked particularly happy being on camera doing those tattoos, it makes me wonder if she even truly wants to be a tattoo artist; just because Ariel learned from watching her mother doesn't mean her own daughter will want to do the same thing!
As someone who was in and out of them myself growing up - I agree that tattoo shops are not environments for children.
as a kid who was forced to grow up too soon, ik how fucked it is to treat a child like an adult, its just not right. i feel so bad for that girl, i hope she can live a normal preteen life, and not be overworked and underpaid at a job she isnt qualified for. seriously what the fuck.
Children tattooing adults is just creepy. Why are they tattooing so close to their groin area?! It’s just going to attract a gross clientele.
That WAS pretty gross.
I'm a 42yr old man. I have 2 tattoo's so far. I plan on getting a total of 13 tattoo's. I will NEVER allow a child to tattoo me ever. I'm very picky on what tattoo studio I go to and the artist who does it. Half the problem is Ariel. The other half of the problem are the clients that allow a child to tattoo them.
Whenever I get a tattoo, I insist on getting my knob out (not just for it to be tattooed)...so I could NEVER go there. I would never let a child tattoo me anyway, that's just WRONG. 🫤
My stepdad did tattoos and piercings and I’d be there sometimes but he’d never, ever, let me tattoo. I showed interest so he let me look through art books and sketch possible ideas. It’s wild to me that some people are just that comfortable with giving their kids needles to use
And leaving them with complete strangers.
As soon as I saw the title I knew exactly who this video was about
this sets off a lot of child labor alarm bells for me regardless of the larger context. as mentioned, doesn’t feel that different from family vloggers. the kid training other artists feels especially out of line for a number of reasons… way too much responsibility for a kid on top of many other power dynamics at play here.
and it’s one thing to bring your kid to work, engross them in the profession and make it a learning opportunity if it’s something the kid is interested in. it’s another thing to turn them into a whole employee.
i'm not entirely against a child learning about tattooing or how to do it (maybe when theyre at an age where their motor skills are more refined lol) but they absolutely should not be tattooing people. fruits or fake skin at the very least.but i 100% agree with you that there is no need to push a CHILD into this line of work before theyre even finished with high school ☹ and i'm absolutely horrified that that woman left her child alone with a client! i'm a grown adult and *I* hate being alone with clients! it doesnt even matter if theyre your friend, anything could have happened while you were out. so unbelievably irresponsible. i feel bad for Natalie.
Same, totally. I am shocked that a Mother would leave her daughter (of TWELVE years!!) with some bloke they don't know... especially in this day and age when there seem to be more and more sick, dangerous people allover the place.
Omg ewww the creep in his UNDERWEAR 🩲 while the little girl tattooing him and he was looking like he was enjoying it. I'm gonna be sick🤢 so you're telling me he couldn't wear shorts knowing he was getting that tattoo there 😡
Omg just saw another creep in his underwear! This is sick. Never in 20 years of tattoos have I seen any guy in their tighty whities!!!
I think this kinda thing is gonna happen a lot more once word gets around. That's why I think the Mother is crazy to leave her daughter alone with them. Some evil tw@ could easily snatch her and drive off with her too. 😮 It's insane.
I'm not into taking children away from their parents to put into "care" but that little girl really is at risk there.
And who the fuck wears "tighty whities" anymore??! Ewww. Some people really do have bad taste. Poor girl.
Actually I just finished watching and I never saw the bloke in "tighty whities" seemingly enjoying it too much.
I would not feel comfortable letting any child tattoo me, especially if I had to be in my not-tight, PSYCHEDELIC underwear. It's not right.
I feel pretty conflicted about this one. On one hand I love that these kids have a creative outlet and are building a useful skill, I really enjoyed Lilly's story as she seems pretty passionate about tattooing and her parents just supported her in that desire to learn. Love when parents support their kids and their passions! I did feel like the girl in the first story wasn't as invested and outright seemed uncomfortable in a lot of the clips. Makes me wonder whether she wants to be there or not. I do think tattoo studios are adult spaces (if only because adults are the primary clientele). I have seen children in adult spaces before, namely wineries and it wasn't a big deal. I think these kids should absolutely be supervised at all times if they are going to tattoo which was another problem in the first story. I feel conflicted. Lily is very talented and is a great artist, and I want to leave space for kids to improve their talents. THIS IS A HARD ONE. Thanks for sharing. 🐥
ahaha not that it's an issue (I still understood you), but Lily is the parent :) The daughter is called Maya, in case you wanted to correct the little mistake!
Is it me or is Maya better than Lily?
I’d feel the same way IF fake skin wasn’t so readily available especially for someone in the industry lol not even just sheets of fake skin you can get arms legs heads etc to practise on
The girl could’ve had a blooming career with amazing work and experience on fake already behind her making getting a job or apprenticeship so much easier than most people have it but the mothers poor decisions have likely hurt her chances 😢
@@pipper6942 This is a great point and I agree!
My issue is that this seems very much like an alternative version of mommy vloggers, like?? Is it technically against the law? No. Is it deeply unethical and opening up their children to all sorts of exploitation? Absolutely.
Edit: just made it to the part where you come to the same conclusion 😂 spot on.
Abuse happens more often in the hands of close ones, like parent's best friends, uncles and aunts, grandparents..
I cringed so hard when this Ariel stated that "She wasn't alone, ThEre wAs ThE cLiEnT tOo, hE's a rEgUlAr aNd mY bEsT fRiEnD" damn... I'm not saying that it always happens, I've been supervised by parents friends too, but they were the one having a responsibilities over me, not me having a responsibility over them
Why did you start writing with alternate Capital letters like that?? It doesn't make sense, it's distracting and it's stupid. Why do it? Seems like you were making a good point and then you mess it up like that?!
I bet most people don't even bother reading it all to the end when they get to that. That's why it's stupid.
It doesn't even look edgey or cool. It's just stupid.
Texan lawmakers have actively been trying to loosen child labor laws and put them back into the work force. I doubt anything will come of this. Children die working in factories and not much is done. Highly doubt they’ll label tattoo shop hazardous when the factories aren’t.
Lol no, they aren’t
I always love your kind, calm and empathetic approach to topics ♡︎
Honestly having a parent who is a tattoo artist would be cool asf to a child, all kids want to be like their parents 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly I wish Ariel put more effort in being there with her kid rather than being so focused on money and her business. She treated her kid like a worker that’s been there for years.
It really is about the approach though. Ik kids who started to tattoo when they were 14 going on to 16 and they got tattoos from their parents until they learned how to tattoo on real skin. I live in a place that has no tattoo studios, it’s a small village so we barely have anything. It’s what the kid wanted to do and the parent helped place rules and goals for them
I can see why Lilly says that they are a “professionally irresponsible person” - as tattooers or even as tattooed people, Lilly grew up in a time where there was still a very strong stigma that tattooers and tattooed people were considered delinquents and irresponsible. And as tattoo artists, we indulge people’s “irresponsible” behavior. I feel like there is a huge difference in Maya and Natalie’s situations because Maya is treated as a growing artist who looked up to her parents and their profession, while Natalie seems to be in a situation where her mother is just using her.
I unfortunately know a shop owner in New Hanpshire, USA that is teaching both of his daughters (age 4 and 8) to tattoo. He told me he wants the girls working full-time by 13. I wouldnt be as grossed out if it was just on fake skin, but these young girls have tattooed on people (I've already reported him to the appropriate regulatory board for this and other abysmal conduct)
I am so glad you brought forth the point of these children being filmed and put on a platform, and that the parents profit from it. Its such a good point.
When I hear minors tattooing I think of filip leu and Morrison schiffmacher(did her first tattoo at age 3). Two incredibly talented and important tattoo artists living today. I understand that this video is chasing a trending headline, but I think it would be more interesting if there was a deep dive on the child tattoo artists who grew up to be successful. I would love to hear in the words of those who succeeded what it was like being in that environment. Whether they find issues with it now.
Then you should go and ask them.
I just want to say that I absolutely love your style of commenting! It's clear that you've done research and you're upfront about what you do and don't know. Also, you always manage to express your opinion while staying unbiased so thank you :)
I worked as a child and I am thankful fir all the skills my Dad passed along to me. I didn't go into the same profession but I have used the skills numerous times. I'm pro letting them work with supervision.
That dagger tattoo you did was 🔥
Your hair looks so so cute in this video!!! 🤩
It IS , isn't it! She is allover WELL-CUTE! ❤
Honestly, Maya at 12 years old is putting into skin more quality work than Ariel, if there's consent by the client, Maya wants to tattoo and the parents are there to supervise I think it's okay for her to be learning. I do find that comment a little off as well but I think it's because English is not his first language.
Awwh man I completely missed the upload by a few minutes and went to bed!
It's great to develop their skills and passion at a young age, but there are a lot of negatives as well introducing them to the open like this very early.
Omg that's me in the beginning lol!! I'm tojislovebot!! I'm totally fangirling right now
i work with kids and mine knows what my tattoos are but they definitely don't understand/couldn't be able to safely tattoo or comprehend it but most 2/3 year olds who aren't developmentally challenged would be able to ask somewhat but not fully comprehend it, they're still learning permanence!
Just throwing in my 2 cents. Social media aside. What Ariel does in general is dangerous and putting a child in the middle of that is a terrible idea. In the Lily Lu situation, there is a level of prodigy that's been spoken of that she has surprisingly good control and instincts for it. Also, Lily Lu does crazy stuff at Psyland, but always tries to do it in the safest way possible, like multiperson back pieces, there were wavers and everyone had to get tested for things etc. I have no doubt that Maya learned well, and at this point in her life is a pretty talented tattooer and if she continues will only get better. I'm a musician and performer, we let kids perform and learn those skills that can be a career from early on, in the right, rare, environment I don't see an issue with it. I've actually thought about trying to go and get a Maya tattoo, but I don't know if I'm hard core enough for that trip to Germany.
Well, I think a tattoo shop is no place for kids and I think the Music and Entertainment Industry should leave kids out of it too. Kids should be going to school, playing with their friends of the same age (give or take a couple of years) and just being the children they are. They shouldn't be exposed to the World of adults.
I think it’s atrocious to allow children to tattoo in a studio, especially left alone; and you can’t tell me that little girl is the one who took the Blood-born Pathogens test either SMH ~ at least LiliLou has several people always around his daughter & her ink doesn’t look as dug into the skin as the TikTok lady.
Either way, it’s crazy, unsafe & should not be allowed. 🐥
Celle, are you going to be touching on magic ink bangbang is pushing? Curious to see your take
I honestly think ur my favourite CZcamsr maybe one day I’ll get tattoo by you
And your name is?..."Danger"!...mm'kay. 🧐
🐥 great video 🎉
I'm sorry, but I would feel really uncomfortable with the idea of someone having their child touch me. I kind of side eye the customers who agree to this just as much as the artist.
especially in maya's case. why are all these grown men just in their underwear while this is happening????
Oh my gosh love your content and stop being so attractive!!! WTH lol. Also now I need all the tattoos please 🙏
Yo I love your shirt!
Wow, Celle! 😍😍😍
As a survivor of legal agricultural child labor, I am absolutely disgusted by any child working anywhere.
Nice video 🤟👍✌️👌
I love your patchwork shirt so much 🥺✨ does anyone know where it is from?
I think it’s the cropped “Bugged shirt” by the ragged priest. it’s on sale on their site rn
Yes, I do.
I agree with you 100%. Children shouldn't be in tattoo studios at all
Heyy are you gonna do a new tattoo tour
germany has pretty much no requirements for tattoo artists at all, other than having a health departmenr "license" which has nothing to do with tattoos at all. Germany still sees tattooing as "bodily harm" as its stated in the criminal court, but its legal as long the person who is getting tattooed consents and as long as the tattoo artist doesnt do an AWFUL job. There isnt even a minimum age to get tattoos. You just have to be at "sound mind" according to law, but that is not directly legally tied to any age. Its a mess :D
your jacket is so cute
It is really dangerous to allow a child so young to operate machinery. I don't agree with it AT ALL. It's so dangerous and 12 y/os just are not as responsible as adults. Also, a 12 year old should not be working, period. Idgaf if it's legal or not. It's messed up. And leaving a 12 y/o alone with an adult stranger getting a tattoo is beyond messed up. Plus, she not only has told the whole world where her daughter works but also now where she lives. Mother of the year here...
It's people like her that made this shit a cutthroat industry. Love your content, love the vibe. Keep up the good work. You have a very long, but awesome and so worth it road ahead of you.
I don’t think the tattoo industry can be devalued anymore than it already has been
It drives me nuts that 1. She's letting her child tattoo clients and 2. LEAVING HER ALONE TO DO IT!
Why happens if there is an emergency and the client passes out? Can a child handle that alone or what if a client gets belligerent? You are leaving your kid alone with a stranger in a situation that can go sour quickly. People pass out, bleed profusely, vomit or even poop themselves while getting tattooed and I doubt the child is certified to clean up these things or know what to do.
Whereeee is this shirt from?!!
Primark, Wrexham.
And another thing. We have rules against tattooing anyone asleep/ passed out or under the influence. How can you legally tattoo someone blindfolded?! Feels like a consent violation.
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When this girl grows up she’s going to have that depressing jaded, seen it all, attitude because her mother can’t seem to understand she’s her child and not a built in, can’t get away from you, surrogate bestie. Know too many people who’s parents wanted them to grow up too fast, be like “cute” mini adults, a lot of them never seem truly happy or can find healthy relationships. 🐥
I don't know exactly how tattoo licenses work here in Germany, but it might be different from Bundesland to Bundesland in the same way that it differs between States in the US.
Two health officials…in all of LA County? That’s about as scary as the rest of the video.
That little girl should be practicing drawing art on paper while she is under 18 so when she starts to tattoo when she's older she will have more artistic skills
There is no age limit to work at a tattoo shop in the same way as there is no law saying you have to be a certain age work at specifically walmart or specifically 7/11 ect. it falls under general child labor laws which state you can start working at 14 years old.
In Ohio the minimum is 14, but you have to have a work permit if you are under 18.
She lives two blocks away from me. I got a piercing from her in her house years ago. 😂 this is wild.
Lilly is a tattoo icon. Literally one of the most important tattooers of our generation. Maya could not have better teacher s unlike the other lady
I appreciate how thoughtful this video is, and the comparison between the two underaged artists. I feel like you brought something more to the conversation rather than just another hate video. I love your channel!
one, i laughed when ariel said '"you'll know everything!" about her class but cut to the class and the ~students~ aren't even wearing gloves. two, as far as children tattooing, i think it's fair to start teaching a child to tattoo if they're actually interested but tattooing on real people shouldn't be allowed until they're legally an adult. i also worry about the social media aspect of things because you're setting your own child to have a certain reputation, good or bad, which is very influential to how they'll be perceived for the rest of their lives. look at how long it took rebecca black to reinvent her image and she asked her parents for a music video!
$100 for a tattoo under 30min???
Lol. Major red flag. And if you get a tat by her, that’s all on you!!
I feel like if her child was under the care of an ACTUAL tattoo artist that has the skills and knowledge then I don’t think I would complain that much. I also wouldn’t be mad is she was trained the right way. Like she should be drawing ALL DAY, practicing techniques like line pulling, different types of shading, taping up the pencil so she can get used to tattoo grips etc. I feel like since she’s young she could learn SO MUCH it’s just that she’s learning from the wrong person. I hope when she gets older she separates herself from her mom and learns from a REAL artist. Or even save up and go to tattoo school.
Honestly her mom isn’t a great mentor BUT she WILL have a lot of experience right off the bat since she started so young. She has the potential to become an incredible tattooer one day
I don't see the problem in a minor learning to tattoo. If they are not charging for it and are applying proper safety measures, I think it should be supported. It's not really work if it's a hobby and is not monetized. Some musicians charge for their music, but no one is going to call a child playing a piano "child labour", and there's no reason for it to be different with tattoos. Also, if the child is with the client, she isn't alone. The client could be a bad person, but they are unlikely to do something in a monitored space like a studio with security cameras while also being filmed for social media. When I was twelve, I was not always supervised by family members in all scenarios, nor did I always had an adult present. I don't know how normal this is in the US, but I would say it's normal in most places and children can be independent in their activities provided that they are responsible enough and these activities don't pose disproportional risks. If she practiced for a long time before being unsupervised, she probably has knowledge enough to do it safely. Children are not idiots. They are not capable of making certain life decisions or being fully independent, but that doesn't mean that they are incapable of mastering a hobby, having responsibilities and overall doing a good job in something that is complex and requires fine skills.
It's not about a kid doing a hobby, the "hobby" is repeatedly stabbing a needle into someone's skin. This kid could give someone skin infections if she's following her mom's hygiene practices. This is a little kid doing permanent body modifications. If you wouldn't let a 12 year old do surgery why would you let them use a tattoo gun on someone? Practice skins exist for a reason.
If the child is working, then it's child labour.
Wearing my glasses makes everything like “HD” right? Well I’m not wearing my glasses right now because it’s late and I’m in bed so there’s not much definition on things and the color of your shirt keeps fckin with my head lol I put on my glasses and saw the difference between where the shirt ends and your skin starts, thankfully the tattoo on your chest helps my confused brain some
It's the agressive wiping for me😫
As an artists myself I always feel it a big responsibility changing ppls body for the rest of their lives. It’s not the type of responsibility a child can carry or even understand. It’s not something to be taken lightly and I think the way these children are now being put into that position is the opposite of teaching them that responsibility. It’s teaching them that it’s just fun and popular on TikTok. Furthermore, dealing with unhappy customers or mistakes is really stressful (as any artist might know) and imo children are not yet able to deal with that kind of stress. A huuuugge no no for me
I don’t think minors should be allowed to tattoo. There are significant health risks to both the tattooer and the client … and children/youth do not have the more advanced understanding and judgement that adults do. Blood-borne pathogens are real and not always easy to treat. I can’t imagine increasing a child’s risk of a life-long illness by letting them tattoo (especially unsupervised!!!!).
I also think that it’s important to not take away from other significant aspects of child development, like school, friends, physical activity, and hobbies. Don’t exploit your children for labour or social media fame/money. Let them be kids.
I definitely think it’s ok for kids to work I grew up on a farm and have worked my whole life and it was fine. But like idk if they should be tattooing more like cleaning up and maybe when old setting up
🐥I love what you said about traditional art backgrounds being beneficial for tattooing and that made be feel like this is most of this is just the parents wanting views or else they’d focus on all the other mediums that could be explored that don’t permanently mark peoples bodies.
The thing of her classes is that they seem to be targeted at people who believe tattooing is just "drawing" on skin like something u do when ur bored or something and not something that requires a lot of work, talent and dedication.
I only have one tattoo and it was done by my sister when she was 15
Aww! Was so excited to see our girls @FunkyFrogBait and @TreacleTatts pop up on this one 🥳 🙌 ❤
I am German and as far as I know there is no regulation on who’s allowed to do a tattoo except age/hours children are allowed to work. I am not a hundred percent sure tho…
I mean she may not even be running a legal tattoo studio. The guy who did my back said there was an illegal studio across from him for like almost a year in a really stringent state.
It would be great if you could make an episode on the artist called little swastika
So many people who are unaware of what a good tattoo is end up with awful ones because they’re not part of that world. They have one or two and see the pretty drawing. Drawing is much easier than tattooing. Not all artists can tattoo. She’s one of those who should definitely not be tattooing
I know a girl who started learning how to do nails when she was around her age or even younger (she was in elementary school) and she worked with clients, now she is much better than her mother when it comes to doing nails and drawing on them, I don't know, I don't find it weird I guess. It depends on how many hours she works, I do believe she should be allowed no more than 1h or so a day since she is pretty young and has school, homework, etc as well as childhood, so...
She sounds like my old mentor… he was letting me tattoo alone from the beginning. Wasn’t in the shop. Stole my own tattoo designs and lots of other people online… he also just told me to go to CZcams or TikTok to learn… unfortunately this type of person happens to much in the tattoo industry it’s so gross… (avoid patayin tattoo studio in kw Ontario )
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How any of this is somehow legal baffles me, but sadly doesn't surprise me. Once again we see a "mom influencer" using their kids to get views. Even actively putting them in danger. I really hope laws will change so that this can't happen anymore. So many kids lives are being ruined by their parents, and this case has the added of every person getting a tattoo also being in danger of infection. Also aren't they kind of endorsing it all?
The person with the purple dreads has literally filmed p0rn videos in that same studio using tattoo/piercing equipment. The studio with the orange and purple if that’s where the minor is tattooing i feel like this place should be looked into way more
No fucking way really?!
God I hope you’re wrong but also I don’t trust people one bit. I’d be disgusted and horrified and concerned but not surprised 😞
Tattooing is such a delicate art and we should treat it as such. Especially with tattoos becoming increasingly more popular we should care who is tattooing us. One of the reason I wanted to get into it is because I’d never want to injure someone but beauty through pain is what I’m all about. I see the same gentle nature in celle she care about her clients some people just think tattooing is cool . I unfortunately don’t have enough money to learn tattooing but I still believe you can’t just pick up a gun and start you should have some basic art skills and classes here are like 3000 dollars so the 60 dollar class thing is insulting and a joke. Because I can’t tattoo rn I just work on perfecting my art and style that’d d like to bring to the field. Not everyone should be tattooing leave it to the professionals .
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The difference between family vloggers and Lily and Maya is that family vlog channels are ABOUT the kids. The channel couldn’t still exist/be successful without the children. It seems like Lily Lu would have a successful business with or without Maya.
AZ artists don’t need a license or a bbp certificate. Just a regular business license.
Usually, at least in the uk, you need a thorough bckround check in order to be left with a child (if you work with them). AT EVEN THEN IT CAN BE DANGEROUS. HOW THE EF DID SHE THINK UTS OK TO LEAVE A STRANGER WITH HER KID
She blocked me a couple weeks ago after agreeing with a comment that her work sucks. I want to be a tattoo artist and she has the worst tattoo work I’ve ever seen and she copies others work.
I would definitely say that due to no supervision by the parent, and a hazardous work environment (blood and needles), it would violate child labor laws. Not to mention how concerning it is to leave the kid alone with adults in this environment, as well as accepting gifts from strangers to your child?!
I think it's great to allow your kids to try things out and learn what they love to do but within reason as always. Leaving them unattended while they tattoo an actual human being at 12 years old is actually insane to me. Let her make her art on fake skin amd work up to clients when she's like 16 maybe.
And the 3 hour $60 class sounds like so much fun, however I would never claim that it's all you need to become a tattoo artist. That's ridiculous considering there's one mentor and what looked like multiple students at one time. They're not getting the one on one training and taking the time to gain experience. Learning actual techniques and rules of sanitization takes so much more than a 3 hour class
There are so many other ways for a child to express their creativity that aren’t a potential health hazard and won’t leave whole human being permanently marked with tattooed lines of foolishness and neglect.