W. Deen Mohammed and Louis Farrakhan: Historic Interview

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  • Muslim News Magazine presents an excerpt from a new documentary called "Saviors Day: A Meeting of the Minds." of the. In this powerful clip see part of the only interview ever recorded between Imam W. Deen Mohammed and Minister Louis Farrakhan. Watch their controversial discussion about Fard Muhammad and his role in converting African-Americans to Islam. This entire interview can be seen on a new documentary called "Saviors Day: A Meeting of the Minds." Purchase at www.BAITCAL.com

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  • @corneliusorlian8433
    @corneliusorlian8433 Před 6 lety +78

    You see how them two brothers sit down and talk with out emotions I learn something from both of them and that's great

    • @shadeedmuhammad8107
      @shadeedmuhammad8107 Před 3 lety +4

      As I grow I understand my mistakes and honor those mistakes. Only then corrections may come to be. It is said that a man is not a man till he turns 40. I can understand this all to well now. My emotions may, can and will hold a Male down until he gains control of this beast. Mind,body, and soul. Food, clothing and shelter. These are the aspects that a man should under take. Emotions are like destructive force that cause harm in more ways then one can ever imagine. Think about emotions and its kinfolks.....pride, ego. These thing seem to empower a person but in the long run cause many scars. Scars are so hard to fade.When know better do better. Peace to these brothers and thanks for showing me conduct. All praise be to The Most High.

    • @marciabernard3820
      @marciabernard3820 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Well said.brother..stay safe❤

    • @jobucketkutz
      @jobucketkutz Před 4 měsíci

      @@shadeedmuhammad8107Alhamdulillah

  • @maryamriggins2119
    @maryamriggins2119 Před 5 lety +33

    BLESSINGS for IMAM MUHAMMAD..HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH..MAY ALLAH SWT CONT TO BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALWAYS..THANK YOU FOR THIS UPLOAD...AMEEN AMEEN

    • @charlesdorsey7594
      @charlesdorsey7594 Před rokem +1

      What truth did he teach? He was always on the wrong side of racial issues..

  • @ozzdubar
    @ozzdubar Před 14 lety +5

    I thank you so much for this post!!!

  • @chrissithole2410
    @chrissithole2410 Před 5 lety +60

    I'm from South Africa I might not no much about the Muslims or the NOI but I can tell you that from the 100+ videos of Louis Farrakhan,Malcolm, Elijah and imam Warath . I can testify that the work of the NOI is delivering me very much I've been yearning for it....there is indeed an extraordinary Power back this Man Farrakhan and the NOI.

    • @mrmidnightmovie
      @mrmidnightmovie Před 5 lety +1

      I hope you're not in America or Europe America needs white living South Africa to come to America or Europe

    • @deon2657
      @deon2657 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mrmidnightmovie that would lead to us over throwing them. The only reason south Africa is like that now is because the whites there know their limits ,not to mess with blacks there . we are the majority there .

    • @triggerhapp0990
      @triggerhapp0990 Před 3 lety +6

      Go watch some Imam Siraj videos and learn about true Islam. Not this crackpot version.

    • @charlesdorsey7594
      @charlesdorsey7594 Před rokem

      @@mrmidnightmovie no we don't! White interlopers need to be asked out of or chased out of South Africa!!!!!

    • @mrmidnightmovie
      @mrmidnightmovie Před rokem

      @@charlesdorsey7594 Go make a video or find me now on my new channel - TransparencyAndMerit (here on youtube!) By the way, I'm more than happy to discuss this with you so bring it- call in to my new show ... I'm here.

  • @BrotherFlagg
    @BrotherFlagg Před 14 lety +4

    I would love to see part 1. Thank you 4 this post

  • @DavidOwenWard
    @DavidOwenWard Před 14 lety +1

    THANK YOU BAITCAL!!!

  • @taharamuhammad3771
    @taharamuhammad3771 Před rokem +5

    Look how Beautiful The Minister looks 💕
    He's shining/ glowing.
    The Light inside shines through

  • @djamaluddin
    @djamaluddin Před 2 lety +17

    Imam Warith may Allah grant him paradise and union with the pious.

  • @deon2657
    @deon2657 Před 4 lety +12

    what I get from this is that No matter what we have to respect the nation of Islam.

  • @glenhaynes2924
    @glenhaynes2924 Před rokem +1

    This is the discussion that gave the whole Muslim world a great gift..the gift was the black Muslim community coming to them for validation and acceptance and they went against their own beliefs and they never saw that the Muslim world were suffering from their own situations and misguided properties' of their religious beliefs..where is the status of the black Muslim world now ??? There are plenty arab teachers who are using the same energy that Elijah Muhammad speaks to but you do not hear a hue or cry today...we took another people feelings about us and killed ourselves.. now that we have fallen asleep in our relationship with god..we have become slaves and beggars to a new oppression.. keep the Quran,black people never denied prophet Muhammad at all,but we did satisfy the same people who never came or cared for us in the first place..I rather have a community of our own who praise God in practice..I mean WOW

  • @isavakoya
    @isavakoya Před 5 lety +9

    I love dialogue and unity like this

    • @charlesdorsey7594
      @charlesdorsey7594 Před rokem

      The noi and American Muslim mission joined in several business ventures

  • @baitcal
    @baitcal  Před 14 lety +4

    Part 1 can be found on the BAITCAL channel

  • @cloads4698
    @cloads4698 Před 5 lety +10

    Elijah Muhammad was a good man and a great man God bless the Nation of Islam I think God for the nation Islam

    • @corvettedriver5339
      @corvettedriver5339 Před 5 lety +2

      Elijah Muhammad fathered 8 children with six teenage girls so why are we mad at R Kelly ????

    • @ERICGRIMEY1
      @ERICGRIMEY1 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@corvettedriver5339religion is something else at times

    • @jobucketkutz
      @jobucketkutz Před 4 měsíci

      Alhamdulillah

    • @alphonsomorris793
      @alphonsomorris793 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@corvettedriver5339didn't happen

    • @greatgod1311
      @greatgod1311 Před 20 dny

      ​@corvettedriver5339 what was his other wives names and which 1 was a teenager liar?

  • @hunsainus4233
    @hunsainus4233 Před 6 lety +9

    one love to nation of islam from africa

  • @ausar07
    @ausar07 Před 14 lety +4

    do u have the rest of the interview please post this is a good one

  • @nodlew1943
    @nodlew1943 Před 14 lety +2

    Is there a part 3 to this historic interview? These are excellant videos. Thank you for posting.

  • @SLove-sx9wz
    @SLove-sx9wz Před 5 lety +27

    This interview was about 2 hours long. Y'all got 10 minutes in the middle of the interview and y'all think y'all got total understanding. Minister Farrakhan, humbly I say this, has no equal. Name one man, that is living, that can ask a million men to show up and 2 million men show up. And ask again for a half a million people to show up a million show up. He's done that twice. I judge a tree by it's fruit and Minister Farrakhan has NOT sold his soul or sold out his people to the enemy unlike many of his peers. I stand with Farrakhan.

    • @theconsciousobserver6829
      @theconsciousobserver6829 Před 5 lety +1

      Wray Franklin Say it again Muhammad!

    • @TryphosaSiweya
      @TryphosaSiweya Před 5 lety +5

      I guess that's the reason why he instigated the killing of Malcolm X

    • @theconsciousobserver6829
      @theconsciousobserver6829 Před 5 lety +3

      tryphosa try Explain that further with proof other than what you took out of context from the man's own mouth. Explain how he instigated the death of a man who had been on the top of a hit list since before he joined The Nation of Islam. Kindly enlighten us to where you were on that faithful day 50 something years ago.

    • @phurqantv5107
      @phurqantv5107 Před 5 lety +7

      Hello, I just wanted to kindly reply to your comment. The truth is that Louis Farrakhan is not preaching orthodox Islam. According to Islamic doctrine, NOI members are not Muslims because of several things. For example, believing that there is a Messenger after Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) eliminates you from the fold of Islam. Believing that God came down to Earth(in the form of W.D Fard or any one else) only takes you out of the fold of Islam. Warith Deen Muhammad(may Allah have mercy on him) was a true follower of Islam. Thanks for reading

    • @kachebeeabdullah4297
      @kachebeeabdullah4297 Před 4 lety +4

      As a student of Al-Islam since 1974, this is my assessment:
      1. I'm extremely grateful for The Honorable Sister Clara Muhammad. Why? She was the one who brought The Honorable Elijah Muhammad to Master Farad Muhammad in the first place.
      2. I believe Brother Malcolm X is the greatest Orator and organizer that came from Classical NOI... There are many pictures of The Honorable Louis Farrakhan, literally, looking up to Brother X.
      3. As The Honorable Louis Farrakhan said himself (in this interview), The Honorable Imam W.D. Mohammed was charged to perform critical analysis of the Quran. Farrakhan was right! As he said, and I've seen the picture on google, you will see Master Farad Muhammad looking into the Quran. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad is "sitting". The Honorable Imam W.D. Mohammed is "standing"! The Imam has his "right" hand on his dad. And is hold the "Quran" in his left hand!
      The Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not charge the Honorable Louis Farrakhan or The Honorable Malcolm X to perform critical analysis on the Quran.
      He charged The Honorable Imam W.D. Mohammed with this assignment!
      I believe the Quran is the most powerful book on the planet. If this is true, what effect did the Quran have on the Honorable Imam W.D. Mohammed?
      In this regard, as a student of the Quran, The Honorable Imam W.D. Mohammed had no equal within the Nation of Islam!
      As for me: I submit to Allah and stand upon the teachings of the Quran as Supreme!
      Allahuakbar (G'd is Greater)!

  • @SPQR748
    @SPQR748 Před 5 lety +4

    The most high God works in mysterious ways and for me the Honorable Elijah Muhammad was similar to the prophet Elijah whom was to come before the Messiah. This means that the messiah is already here and even though I am not a Muslim I must say “Allah hu Akbar”🌞

  • @shaywilliams166
    @shaywilliams166 Před rokem +2

    I wonder how many Black American Sunni muslims hearing W. Deen agreeing vocally with all Farrakhan said constantly.

  • @s8peed
    @s8peed Před 14 lety +2

    WE ARE ON THE ROAD TO PERFECTION!!!

  • @dharam108
    @dharam108 Před 8 lety

    what's the approximate date of this interview?

  • @BrotherFlagg
    @BrotherFlagg Před 14 lety

    2 david, where is part one? If you have the link please post. Asante sanaa.

  • @icsolah7386
    @icsolah7386 Před 11 lety +10

    I pray that those who have ears may hear the TRUTH that is being said on this download. All Praises Due!!!!!!!!

  • @deon2657
    @deon2657 Před 4 lety +15

    W.D is wise but the minister brings supreme knowledge

  • @3089280288
    @3089280288 Před 13 lety

    When was this made?

  • @palacios1810
    @palacios1810 Před 13 lety +4

    Mr Mohammed, I praise for your truthfulness. You are free of evilness because you had the opportunitty to follow in your fathers footsteps and made a strong stance against it.

    • @charlesdorsey7594
      @charlesdorsey7594 Před rokem

      Stance against what?

    • @Ice51234
      @Ice51234 Před rokem +1

      @@charlesdorsey7594 Heresy, hypocrisy and racism

    • @charlesdorsey7594
      @charlesdorsey7594 Před rokem

      All of Which warith deen exhibited

    • @charlesdorsey7594
      @charlesdorsey7594 Před rokem

      @@Ice51234 I live in Chicago and know many in the Poole family. They said warithu deen disassociated himself from the non Muslim members of the Poole family

    • @Ice51234
      @Ice51234 Před rokem

      @@charlesdorsey7594 But does that really show any of the traits that I mentioned?

  • @smilepti
    @smilepti Před 5 lety +10

    Message to all who call themselves Muslim :There is no Islam with out Quran.No Human being no matter how much pious or saintly could be elevated or validated to Godly status.

    • @waynemuhammad1527
      @waynemuhammad1527 Před měsícem

      READ SURAH 59 VERSE 19.
      TO KNOW GOD IS TO KNOW SELF IN THAT THE STUDY OF GOD IS THE STUDY OF SELF.

  • @chrissithole2410
    @chrissithole2410 Před 5 lety +17

    Farrakhan or the NOI never said that the Farad was or is the creator of the heaven and earth....but his work bears witness to who he is in the scriptures... He's work resurrected many oppressed people from mental death.

    • @supremeali9703
      @supremeali9703 Před 5 lety

      Farrakhan also said Elijah's teachings need corrections

    • @OMOMOMOMOM190
      @OMOMOMOMOM190 Před 5 lety +3

      Yes they did...

    • @rushreef5196
      @rushreef5196 Před rokem +1

      @@supremeali9703 he never said that. Till this day he says “i will never change my fathers teachings”

    • @ritarisser3116
      @ritarisser3116 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@rushreef5196 they due teach that . master fard muhammad iz the present God ruling in a u.
      F.o mothership above the 🌎. Oh yes they did

    • @weneedareset
      @weneedareset Před 4 měsíci +1

      What are you talking about?? I've been in the mosque, you have to declare fard muhammad and Elijah as God themselves bro some of you are brainwashed, I love the teachings, I love Islam, but the nation is not.above the religion and lessons itself..to call Elijah or farm muhamad a diety was my line, respectfully

  • @TheMaddBlackMann
    @TheMaddBlackMann Před 13 lety +4

    These brothers could have done so much good standing side by side. I hope we as the new leaders of The Black Power Movement can see the greatness in our unity. We cant let small differences pull us apart. I mean look at these beautiful brothers. What did they disagree on? They are talking like old chums. I bet Elijah was proud to see this.

    • @Powerof1to1
      @Powerof1to1 Před 2 lety

      You are absolutely right! We can’t let small differences pull us apart. That’s what the enemy wants. The MHEM said our UNITY is much stronger than an atomic bomb…Keep Rising💫

  • @princepatrick6385
    @princepatrick6385 Před 6 lety +10

    this was 1989 or 1990 this was very informative and enlightening.

  • @diosequis9569
    @diosequis9569 Před 8 lety +24

    Yet... Minister Farrakhan has spoke in countless Churches since. Quoting Bible Scripture after Bible Scripture?

    • @wjones8149
      @wjones8149 Před 8 lety +4

      He is a spiritual leader. It would be foolish on his part to neglect every other religion and those who follow them as if they were less worthy of concern. He's only stating what E. Muhammad told him, not what he chose to do himself in order to distinguish himself as a leader from E. Muhammad and others and come into his understanding and way of teaching.

    • @aliyourbrother1
      @aliyourbrother1 Před 6 lety +1

      Farrakhan uses the Bible because Blacks in the usa are TRUE Israelites.

    • @coreypettigrew2932
      @coreypettigrew2932 Před 5 lety +1

      And of course, you have sources to support that ridiculous claim of the Nation of Islam being funded by Zionists. Otherwise, you are spreading falsehood, extremely recklessly.

    • @shaunspencer8494
      @shaunspencer8494 Před 5 lety +4

      This a ridiculous statement, because if your addressing a people who are only familiar with the Bible, then you have to speak thier language and speak universal truth from what they know and understand in order to bring them into a deeper understanding of that which they are not familiar with. 85% of the Nations followers cam from Christianity. So let's use common sense and think a little deeper before we criticise what we have not studied nor undetstand.

    • @shaunspencer8494
      @shaunspencer8494 Před 5 lety +1

      @saf299 who funds them? Who are their names and where is your proof? I'll wait lol...

  • @yahyaadulfattah3541
    @yahyaadulfattah3541 Před 5 lety

    The jewel of Islam of Islam will be built but not by hypocrites

  • @nubiagold
    @nubiagold Před 14 lety +1

    @supermike2164, you're right beloved, thanks for the advice.

  • @fe8445
    @fe8445 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I admire the courage of Imam Warithu Deen parting ways to his dad's vision of Islam. With the help of Allah swt, then, the Imam changing direction thousands of NOI members & Americans accepted orthodox Islam.

    • @ddmound
      @ddmound Před 10 měsíci

      Islam is a false religion. It is full of doctrines of devils. I mean Mohammad or any other arab had nothing to do with what was written in the qoran which is plagurized version of spiritual communism. I am telling you it is all about be destroyed. All of the Arabic nations by the True God of Israel. Then what will you have to say?
      It serves no one other than itself. Therefore it is of satan who said he will be like the Most High, and used the term aw'law twice which is the original termed mentioned before men turned it into an idol. The kabaa is that idol. (Isa.14:12)
      Satan comes to steal their souls, kill through jihad, and destroy all that disagrees with them. What power does Islam have other than to steal the Acts of the Almighty of Israel? THERE IS NO ALLAH ANY MAN CAN PROVE! YOU CANT PROVE HE EXIST!! ITS SATAN
      The word "God" is a pagan term that comes from the world. It was invented with the English language. No one who says it can prove they know the Almighty. Islam uses it to say in the Genesis creation it is allah who is "God" but that is a lie! BC the word for God in Hebrew is Elohiym which is a rural term for the Godhead that Islam does not have access to.
      But these American Muslims are a joke bc they are not even accepted by the religion of the east it came from. The Eastern Muslims called American muslin doctrine "Shieks akaShit" Mohammad was a white man according to the hadid. But someone has to be satan's children to fill the lake of fire.
      And Islam, Catholics, Christians, Judaism, buhhdaism, Scientology, barr none will all go to the lake of fire the 2nd death called the 2nd resurrection. You can believe what you want but I have the power to prove what I say and challenge you with you it

  • @rosemccline537
    @rosemccline537 Před rokem

    Wow and can hear his father's voice

  • @HealthyHeavyweights
    @HealthyHeavyweights Před 14 lety +6

    man we have two master teachers on deck....and all we can do is argue how sad...its all a stepping stone if you havent paid attention.

  • @Emassenbur
    @Emassenbur Před 13 lety +2

    ALL PRAISE IS DUE TO ALLAH FOR THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN!!!!! ALLAH U AKBAR!!!!!!!!!

  • @neverendingjourneystilllea5271

    Thanks

  • @haroldjohnson7146
    @haroldjohnson7146 Před 6 lety +5

    A white man waking up black folks.what you cant see is the TRUTH HURTS.means and message to controll a nation of people.

    • @khensuahabuhetepre1372
      @khensuahabuhetepre1372 Před 5 lety

      he was actually turkish arab and elijah was doing what he thought was best by combining masonary, quran and the bible to wake black people up but he knew we go back to the beginning of time which we overstand now is in afrika (kemet or ethiopia) as destined

  • @nubiagold
    @nubiagold Před 14 lety +3

    @brothaMShareefEL, what is uncivilized about the Nation of Islam? Minister Farrakhan is treated as a Head of State wherever he travels...police escorts, meetings with rulers of foreign lands. The NOI most certainty is recognized as long as our leader is. We in the NOI know were not citizens of America, but we respect her.

    • @arimoff
      @arimoff Před rokem

      Im not muslim but there is nothing islamic about nation of islam. All it is is a black supremacy cult and farakhan, who calls himself gd, is the cult leader. Farakhan gets the red carpet only in iran and only because the only common denominator is their Jew hate. The rest of the world couldn't give damn about him. He is irrelevant nobody.

  • @demarcox25
    @demarcox25 Před 14 lety +4

    Master Fard Muhammad never called himself "prophet" he declared to the Hon. Elijah Muahmmad the HE WAS THE MAHADIAH!!!! The Hon. Elijah Muhammad said he used the term "prophet" just to try it out until he found the right terminology!!!! He(FARD MUHAMMAD) never said he was a prophet!!!!

  • @tahiyattasdic
    @tahiyattasdic Před 2 měsíci

    I really have deep love and respect for Warith Deen Muhammad who tried his best to bring the cult into the true path. May Allah grant him Jannatul Firdaus. And may Allah give hidayah to Louis Farrakhan.

  • @nutsncunts
    @nutsncunts Před 13 lety

    I do understanding now brotha! Salam wala kium

  • @bashirhaqq1
    @bashirhaqq1 Před 14 lety +6

    I like that. That was a good one. lol, Love you my dear sister you got me crying. lol... Assalamu Alaikum

  • @sonwamac
    @sonwamac Před 12 lety +9

    Not many men can expound enough to keep Farrakhan quiet for that long

  • @KamalShariff
    @KamalShariff Před rokem +1

    Dynamic Dou: Minister Farrakhan as the organizational leader, W. D Mohammed as the spiritual leader, and the NOI would have been unstoppable and would have assumed its rightful place as the leadership for Black Americans.

  • @charleswilliams6471
    @charleswilliams6471 Před 5 lety +2

    Who compares with Christ? Nobody absolutely nobody! He is Lord of Heaven and Earth and under the Earth! Every Knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess to His Lordship!

  • @LizTtubbe
    @LizTtubbe Před 5 lety +11

    Exodus 20:3-5(KJV)
    3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
    4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
    5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

  • @dom2yillpso881
    @dom2yillpso881 Před rokem +2

    The picture of fard looking at his hands isnt the only picture we have of him. Faracon is again caught in his millionth lie. We have fards MUGSHOTS.

    • @FourThreeEight
      @FourThreeEight Před rokem +2

      Wallace got caught in a lie too here though. Wallace claimed that he had more pictures of WD Fard, yet he agreed with Min. Farrakhan that the only one is that standard portrait.
      As you said, there are four photos from the 1926 mugshots as well as the 11/24 Detroit Free Press and 11/29 Des Moines Tribune. There are probably at least a half dozen more that have yet to be unearthed by researchers.

    • @dom2yillpso881
      @dom2yillpso881 Před rokem

      @@FourThreeEight good response

  • @trulurecords
    @trulurecords Před 14 lety +2

    We still can not discredit the man or the fact that Malachi 4:5 says" Elijah" and it is a man "named" Elijah that has done the work written to be done...Period
    Get over it.We are still in bad shape,but we are by far not as lost as when these Great Teachers found us.

  • @standtall67
    @standtall67 Před 13 lety +3

    @TheBlackNationBegins Just wondering your thoughts in present day Africa with Arab Muslims enslaving blacks.

    • @hassanabdur-rahman1559
      @hassanabdur-rahman1559 Před 4 měsíci

      Just wondering what are your thoughts about black men in the United States killing other black men? What are your thoughts about many black men glorifying pimping women?
      What are your thoughts of white Christians enslaving and dehumanizing black people?

  • @dalemuhammad3534
    @dalemuhammad3534 Před 3 lety +3

    This represents weakness on the part of the 2 former members of NOI, on display for all to see.

  • @thejchristopher
    @thejchristopher Před rokem +1

    Wallace was incorrect when he said Master Fard Muhammad didn’t tell the Messenger who he was. The Messenger wore off him directly doing so in Message to the Black Man: “I asked him, "Who are you, and what is your real name?" He said, "I am the one that the world has been expecting for the past 2000 years. I said to him again, "What is your name?" He said, "My name is Mahdi; I am God, I came to guide you into the right path that you may be successful and see the hereafter.” (Message To The Black Man
    Chapter 8 - The Coming of God and the Gathering Together of His People)

    • @FourThreeEight
      @FourThreeEight Před rokem

      Elijah provided a different and very contradictory account in 1951 to Hatim Sahib.

  • @islamicdefender
    @islamicdefender Před 14 lety

    How is Dr. York handling his jail term? :)

  • @AmaniEats
    @AmaniEats Před 6 lety +1

    What is the point of separate Master Fard Muhammad from God? How does that lead to righteousness? Does this discussion lead more people to righteousness than the works of Master W.F. Muhammad?

  • @lonsolo5607
    @lonsolo5607 Před 4 lety +2

    MAJOR SHIRK!

  • @khensuahabuhetepre1372
    @khensuahabuhetepre1372 Před 5 lety +2

    Dr.malachi z. york tried to get this type of meeting going when he address the 5% percenters and nation of islam letter to the nation and uplifting their banner, he gave alot of insight on the agenda of the foreign arab hands against america at the time and the agents who did not think the n.o.i was going to grow

  • @johnjordan4310
    @johnjordan4310 Před 6 lety +2

    Surah 3:77 3:78 3:79 this is about Elijah

    • @MysticK111
      @MysticK111 Před 3 lety

      I’ve read those Quran of verses, and I couldn’t agree more. Elijah along with the Nation of Islam have been distorting what is in the Holy Quran. And that Elijah proclaims himself to be a prophet, which is major shirk.

  • @bessamidani9463
    @bessamidani9463 Před 8 lety +3

    This is such a desperately, transparently convoluted rationalization.

    • @savemoney4058
      @savemoney4058 Před 5 lety

      The amount of poison being spewed from the mouth of these two black men, in regards to the messengers teachings, is why our people remain spiritually blind, death and dumb. They are totally misrepresenting the messengers teachings.

    • @phurqantv5107
      @phurqantv5107 Před 5 lety

      @@savemoney4058 Hello. I just wanted to know which Messenger you are talking about. Thanks

    • @savemoney4058
      @savemoney4058 Před 5 lety

      @@phurqantv5107
      The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad (Messenger of Allah)

    • @phurqantv5107
      @phurqantv5107 Před 5 lety +4

      @@savemoney4058 In Islam, the final Messenger was Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

    • @savemoney4058
      @savemoney4058 Před 5 lety

      @@phurqantv5107 Before I respond to your statement. I would like to know what your nationality, ethnicity and religious affiliations are?
      If you would. Thank You

  • @sgreen4865
    @sgreen4865 Před 8 lety +18

    After Elijah Muhammad died and the NOI ended, Farrakhan was a traditional Muslim (sunni) for a few years but I think he wanted to be more a leader rather than a follower so he started up the NOI again

    • @caineable4525
      @caineable4525 Před 6 lety +4

      sgreen4 No, he was always a leader even during his dark days. Stop making assumptions because people will believe it as the truth.

    • @resumebyron6825
      @resumebyron6825 Před 6 lety +1

      Farrakhan was never a leader in the NOI. He became Elijah's national representative which Malcolm X had been prior to his brutal assassination by NOI hit men. There was only one leader of the NOI before 1975 and that was Elijah Poole Muhammad. Because of his egotistical-sociopath-power-craving disorder, Louis Farrakhan could never succumb to being just a follower.

    • @julmuhammad2230
      @julmuhammad2230 Před 6 lety

      sgreen4 if Ur thought is not based on fact U R already a LIAR. JABRIL CONVINCED FARRAKHAN TO RE-BUILD THE NATION.

    • @sliat1981
      @sliat1981 Před 6 lety +1

      He didn’t rebuild it. It’s an unrelated splinter group. Wardith was the leader of the NOI

    • @julmuhammad2230
      @julmuhammad2230 Před 6 lety

      Resume Byron the shooters were not FOI stop lying

  • @dbozexpat894
    @dbozexpat894 Před 2 lety +3

    Master Fard Muhammad did a "great work" among the Black man and woman of America. However, Master Fard was originally from India, not Arabia. He was a man born of a woman. Allah (The Most High) is not born, nor is He a man.
    Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. The Quran Surah Al-Ikhlas [112]

  • @deon2657
    @deon2657 Před 4 lety

    This whole discussion is about man being made in the image of God and the conclusion about master fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad's teachings

  • @RemembranceOfAllah
    @RemembranceOfAllah Před 12 lety

    @AliYourBrother Brother, if that is the case, then (1) Farakhan should immediately take out the bit about "Allah in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad" from his newspaper that no one buys, and (2) It means that Imam Warith Deen Muhammad was CORRECT when he said all these things way back in 1975.

  • @RemembranceOfAllah
    @RemembranceOfAllah Před 13 lety +1

    @excaliba360 I'm afraid that you are not really familiar with the NOI's teachings. Read their original books from the 50s and 60s and there are numerous instances of Farad Muhammad being referred to as Allah, as the All-Knowing God, etc. etc. There are also the testimonies of thousands of former NOI members (the original ones from the 50s) who will tell you that they were taught that Master Farad Muhammad was Allah. This might be an embarassing doctrine now, but history cannot be changed.

  • @RemembranceOfAllah
    @RemembranceOfAllah Před 12 lety

    @AliYourBrother And yes, I as a Sunni Muslim do accept that there is a hadith with a sahih chain of transmission that reports "Qur'an and Ahle Bait" (instead of "Qur'an and Sunna"). That is not a problem for me as a Sunni. We accept and respect Imams Ali, Hasan, Hussain, Jafar as-Sadiq, and so on (just not in the way that Shias understand these same people and their roles).

    • @cloads4698
      @cloads4698 Před 5 lety

      A lot of black Sunni Muslims want to be Arabs and serve their masters

    • @woowoo8234
      @woowoo8234 Před rokem

      @@cloads4698 facts

  • @touggie2000
    @touggie2000 Před 13 lety +1

    both of these men need to sit down with salifi scholars! Amen.

    • @kachebeeabdullah4297
      @kachebeeabdullah4297 Před 4 lety +1

      No. Both men need to always submit to Allah and Allah's Quran! We students of Imam W.D. Mohammed worship Allah - not salifi.

    • @kachebeeabdullah4297
      @kachebeeabdullah4297 Před 4 lety

      Also, I realize your statement is from 8 years ago and the Imam has since passed away. May Allah grant him the highest level of Jenna!

  • @tonikramer5178
    @tonikramer5178 Před 3 lety +2

    Confused .Did Farrakhan just say fard was not allah ?

  • @briancordero7674
    @briancordero7674 Před 4 lety

    Some people will always have a cult mentality and will worship personalites regardless ,those
    who follow their own whims and desires Perhaps in the 60s and 70s and less so in the 80s and 90s but today we live in an age with access to resources and information along with international mass communication and transportation.Its not the World of Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali anymore, we must grow up wake up and catch up.May Allah guide the Sincere ones.

  • @RemembranceOfAllah
    @RemembranceOfAllah Před 12 lety

    @AliYourBrother We have a hadith (which has been transmitted to us *in the same way that the Quràn has been transmitted to us*-- through multiple chains of narration going back to the Companions of the Prophet) in which the Prophet states explicitly that he is the last MESSENGER (Rasool) as well.

    • @triggerhapp0990
      @triggerhapp0990 Před 3 lety

      As a Bahá’í I contest that Muhammad is the final Messenger. Actually on the contrary he said more Messengers will come, Surah 7:35 “Oh children there shall come to you Messengers rehearsing my signs”, Muhammad MPBUH is the Seal of the prophets but not the last Messenger.
      But this version is a crackpot version of Islam, if the Mahdi did return I don’t think He would return for a select minority lol.

  • @noamansattar
    @noamansattar Před rokem +1

    What happend to Fard?
    Was he killed, ran away?

  • @nubiagold
    @nubiagold Před 14 lety

    @brothaMShareefEL, you can raise yourself up only after right guidance have come to you, for we come into the world knowing nothing. If a liar raises you, you live out his ways. Until someone teaches you the truth, then in degrees you can get on track.

  • @Kingsulify
    @Kingsulify Před 10 lety

    No my point was not to argue with you, I was pointing out the passages you quoted and was saying that your wording was incorrect based on what the KJV and NIV shows, that is all

  • @MrB66he
    @MrB66he Před 4 lety

    Who did God make to be the most successful? Who has God made the last man standing?

  • @supermike2164
    @supermike2164 Před 14 lety

    @nubiagold I know its fun sometimes but some people are pointless to debate. Notice how Min Farrakhan doesn't go tit for tat with the IMAM. One reason for this is that people can debate ANYTHING verbally but you can't debate the works of a man. And MLF got the Imam and the host to AGREED on some of the MOST IMPORTANT POINTS. Without them even realizing they just defeated their own arguments.

  • @Followingfist
    @Followingfist Před 12 lety +1

    @touggie2000:....and just because a thing is not perfect doesn't necessarily mean it's a mistake.

  • @assadmuhammad7058
    @assadmuhammad7058 Před 7 lety +12

    this was an excellent discussion. students of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad must be willing to bring his teachings under serious study to unravel the hidden truths that will bring us into further understanding of what the great Mahdi brought the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. indeed - the answers to these questions are very near correct. so we must all be found studying to show ourselves approved unto god.

    • @OMOMOMOMOM190
      @OMOMOMOMOM190 Před 5 lety +5

      Bruh i dno how u stay believing in a bootleg version of islam that heavily borrows phrases like “mahdi” from a 1400 year old religion and passes it off as a new thing specifically for the black man.... yall sheep

    • @triggerhapp0990
      @triggerhapp0990 Před 3 lety

      It’s a crackpot version of Islam that will only lead black people down a dark and crooked path! Religion isn’t about segregation and separatism, the purpose of religion is to unite all races under one universal cause and one common faith!

    • @alphonsomorris793
      @alphonsomorris793 Před 3 lety +1

      @@triggerhapp0990 Show me the unity of all men? Show me the unity of all men in Isam? Show me how you can unify with an oppressor or somebody seeking to dominate u?

    • @triggerhapp0990
      @triggerhapp0990 Před 3 lety

      @@alphonsomorris793 Its easy the answer youre looking for is called Progressive Revelation. Can thank me later :)

    • @normzthezoundman4209
      @normzthezoundman4209 Před 2 lety

      @@OMOMOMOMOM190 and Islam can be said to be a bootleg Christianity lol

  • @downtoearth7712
    @downtoearth7712 Před rokem

    Love his ring

  • @michaelwilks6268
    @michaelwilks6268 Před 5 lety +3

    I believe that Fard realized that traditional Islam during that juncture in the African American experience wouldn't have hit home. Or galvanized the masses in the way the NOI doctrine would. Marcus Gravey's movement was not that far removed from the hearts and minds of the black community when Fard started his campaign. To uplift their sprits by expressing to them how great and wondrous a people they were. Elijah Muhammad is the one that subverted it and made it into a cult.

  • @supermike2164
    @supermike2164 Před 14 lety +1

    @brothaMShareefEL your words discribe your thinking and your thinking indicates some of your activity. This shows the type of reality your works will bring forth. Orthodox Islam scholars in Mecca are not very concerned about protecting the rights of the former slaves in America! If they are point to the activity indicating that disire? Instead of Arguing about a period of time in which we (you nor I) didn't exist let us look at RIGHT NOW!

  • @victorcrawford8478
    @victorcrawford8478 Před 5 lety

    ...... but he is only one of MANY.

  • @PaulGreen11
    @PaulGreen11 Před rokem +2

    Wallace was a Traitor to his father
    (but, that's just my opinion).

  • @bornjust2003
    @bornjust2003 Před 5 lety +1

    I love Farrakhan, but his greatest flaws is not blasting the greatest traitor in the history of the NOI, Wallace D Muhammad, dismissing Minster Khalid Muhammad, and not teaching more of the Supreme Wisdom and Allah's Mathematics. Your father built a great Nation teaching what he taught ..... were not Arabs who murder Africans .... you can keep their so called "real Islam" .... give me Allah's mathematics

  • @sisi2484
    @sisi2484 Před rokem

    Warith Deen Mohammed god bless he found islam in his later life . And left the Poole/Walcott cult

  • @ribkat100
    @ribkat100 Před 10 lety +4

    Very Clear clarification..! Imam Warith Deen Mohammed gave the World a very clear clear understanding of the Teachings of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad !!. Minister Far-a--Khan ..or Far -a- con....who is far from being able to teach the truth because of his greed for leadership and his wanting to inherit The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's Wealth and position,is too ashamed and afraid to now submit to the Truth for fear of being ridiculed in public and being put to the public scrutiny .! He will now have to die in his legacy as a hypocrite.! Sad legacy...but true.! I thank Imam Warith Deen Mohammed for being the Mujeddid of this era and bringing us the truth......Allah has admitted him in the paradise among st the righteous servants of G-D..!Almighty G-D.Allah...Allah-sub-hann-Allah...the one god who has no equal nor partner and never was a man and was here in the beginning and will be here in the end for the judgement....eternally after all man and man kind will be judged....he never had children and has no partner.nor equal or associate.Allah -u-Akbar....Allah is Greater than anything that man can imagine.....Allah is Certainly The Greatest.!

    • @willthebest1
      @willthebest1 Před 10 lety +1

      What wealth???? are you all that cynical in thought pointing the one finger at Minister Farrakhan, only to have three fingers pointing back towards you! are you that sick to think this man has a reason to lie to you...please Farrakhan is the most consistent Leader i have ever met!!!!.....you didn't become divided until knowledge came! We had more unity in slavery before the entire submission to God was reintroduced to the slaves whose parents were mostly one who submitted to the will of the one God!

    • @aliyourbrother1
      @aliyourbrother1 Před 9 lety +1

      what makes you think WD Muhammad is following Islam?

    • @aliyourbrother1
      @aliyourbrother1 Před 9 lety +1

      So you think Sunnis follow sunnah?

    • @knowledgeone471
      @knowledgeone471 Před 6 lety +1

      Takbir Sharrieff Are you Judging Min.Farrakhan?

    • @julmuhammad2230
      @julmuhammad2230 Před 6 lety

      Takbir Sharrieff ALLAAH U AKBAR Means GOD IS THE GREAT !°∆°! NOT The Great"est" ,as there is NONE TO EQUALLY COMPETE wITH ALLAAH: CREATION CAN ONLY B A REFLECTION/ IMAGE / EXPRESSION/MAN-I-FLESH-TATION OF CREATOR😃ALI Claimed to B the Greatest! Fighter that is; in comparison to other men

  • @shahbey7820
    @shahbey7820 Před 2 lety +1

    Woooow...who would have thought 🤣🤣🤣🤣..APDTA for the hon Elijah muhammad

  • @supermike2164
    @supermike2164 Před 14 lety +1

    @MrWorldbefree Trust in righteousness. in the NOI MFM gave us Islam in a way that was just as correct as mathematics. And just as there is no contradiction in mathematics there is not contradiction in Islam.
    Now there is some levels of math that may seem confusing or hard to understand but you can master it.

  • @cloads4698
    @cloads4698 Před 5 lety +1

    My black brothers and sisters the white male actors with the Bible and the Arabs hope this with the Quran we are stuck between two slave masters one slave master is no better than the other

  • @burtmurdoch
    @burtmurdoch Před 13 lety

    I still have doubts against the NOI for their blasphemous teachings with regards to Islam. Please correct your path. Don't be ashame. It's never too late to repent and follow the traditional Islam (Ahlus Sunnah). Peace be with you.

  • @zunniacumen
    @zunniacumen Před 11 lety

    Psalm 139:21-22
    King James Version (KJV)
    21)[*****DO NOT I HATE THEM, O LORD, THAT HATE THEE? AND AM NOT I GRIEVED WITH THOSE THAT RISE UP AGAINST THEE?*****]
    22)[*****[*****I HATE THEM WITH PERFECT HATRED: I COUNT THEM MINE ENEMIES.*****]*****]

  • @SuperSalam7
    @SuperSalam7 Před 13 lety

    Both of these men are the sons of The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad! The only difference is one of them is his spiritual son and the other is only his biological or physical son!

  • @Jokernose69
    @Jokernose69 Před 14 lety

    show and prove

  • @RemembranceOfAllah
    @RemembranceOfAllah Před 13 lety

    @excaliba360 (part 2) "...For example, we cannot currently rule out a scenario in which the ancestral population of present-day non-Africans was more closely related to Neandertals than the ancestral population of present-day Africans due to ancient substructure within Africa..." So this is all tentative and uncertain. Furthermore, even if it conclusively meant what you want it to mean, it would mean that you are not only worshipping a white Arab man (Wallace Ford), but a Neanderthal!

  • @ayrramadan8819
    @ayrramadan8819 Před 9 měsíci

    IWDM is Also a master psychologist! He's not just talking to the interviewer but teaching Min Farrakhan!

    • @dbozexpat894
      @dbozexpat894 Před 5 měsíci

      Respectfully, don't be native. Minister Farrakhan knows all of this history. He was with the Imam from 1975-77, until he left the community to restart the NOI. Master Fard Muhammad was originally from India, not Arabia. His (Fard) history is rooted in symbolism, and the Imam is breaking it down. I was there in 1975.

    • @ayrramadan8819
      @ayrramadan8819 Před 5 měsíci

      @@dbozexpat894 So was I. I'm not sure what you found "naive" and please point out where I said Faraday was from Arabia? Respectfully

    • @dbozexpat894
      @dbozexpat894 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ayrramadan8819 correction, his name was Fard.

    • @ayrramadan8819
      @ayrramadan8819 Před 5 měsíci

      @@dbozexpat894 he was known by several names

    • @ayrramadan8819
      @ayrramadan8819 Před 5 měsíci

      @@dbozexpat894 that was done by auto i meant to say Farad but you never addressed my question

  • @michaelwilks6268
    @michaelwilks6268 Před 5 lety +1

    Why would anything Fard did have to be corrected if he was omnipotent God. We learn that God, is God, is God, infallible omnipresent, omniscient the alpha and the omega above reproach. Above all, able to see all and know all. So why would his doctrines need any correction, Think About IT I implore you, Think About IT.

    • @phurqantv5107
      @phurqantv5107 Před 5 lety

      Hello, I just wanted to kindly reply to your comment. If God has to be infallible, then that means that W.D. Fard couldn't be God, since humans are not infallible. Think about it. Do you think God Almighty would degrade Himself like that?

  • @BiGShell
    @BiGShell Před 12 lety +2

    none of you can out-argue Farrakhan. nuff said.

    • @hamidabdullah1820
      @hamidabdullah1820 Před rokem +1

      I didn't see any arguing at all. Nor did I see Min Farrakhan trying to be argumentative.

  • @ruffhouse8254
    @ruffhouse8254 Před 8 lety +9

    Let Allah be the judge of who are hypocrites! Allah knows the heart that man cannot see. Man should continue to strive for righteousness and not worry about who is astray in Islam or any religion but especially Islam since it is a religion of peace. Don't pass judgement unless of course you can look in the mirror and see no sin or fault. Allah may accept all sects or he could refuse them but in any while man is still on earth be helpful and not harmful with word or deed but instead do your best to create brotherhood rather if you disagree or not. Man controls no Paradise (Heaven) or Hell fire so please act accordingly. Peace to you all.

    • @boxingace7025
      @boxingace7025 Před 5 lety

      Ruff House say that to the NOI for murdering Malcom for being an honest men .

  • @bashirhaqq1
    @bashirhaqq1 Před 14 lety

    i was unaware that the so called muslimah could make cursing halal. Ask Allah for forgiveness for that and return back to the true essence of Islam. Wassalm

  • @dimdimbaby
    @dimdimbaby Před 12 lety

    That's not what he was saying at Savior's Day back in 1975. So who would be the hypocrite?

  • @alisashabazz12
    @alisashabazz12 Před 7 lety

    William Eliot ch 2verse 229 says the cobemamant is with Isaac and his progeny descendants

  • @brothaMShareefEL
    @brothaMShareefEL Před 14 lety

    @nubiagold My Moorish brother you have to learn the history of the Moorish Science Temple of America Elijah Muhammad was known as Robert Poole Bey and he was in the Detriot Temple #4 and he changed his name to Elijah Poole then changed it again to Elijah Muhammad so Elijah Poole was a member of the Moorish Science Temple of American so was David Ford El A/k/a W.D. Fard Muhammad. In 1930 that is when it NOI got started Prophet Noble Drew Ali passed away. in 1929.