Top 3 stories that sound fake but are 100% real | Part 3
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- I can't fathom what was going through his head in story #2
Highlight from today's episode 👉 1:53
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#3 -- "Rest Stop" -- 0:42 -- You never know who you might run into
#2 -- "Complacency Kills" -- 4:31 -- I can only imagine what was going through his head
#1 -- "Identical Strangers" -- 8:16 -- A chance encounter connects two long lost relatives, but that's only the beginning of this insane story
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☠︎ Found the secret easter egg in today's video? Be the 1st to comment what it is and where it occurs in the video, and you will get pinned!! ☠︎
22:21 scream face in right bottom corner in the window
Well done!!!!!!
epic
I clicked on the video 13 seconds after the notification and I’m not even at that point yet
Does anyone just watch for the stories?
@@apexdeer9362 gotta be quicker than that.
This why as a parachute rigger in the Army, someone once told me in general "The day you are no longer scared to jump or don't get nervous is the day you need to quit because you will get yourself killed or get someone killed. That fear or nervousness is what makes you aware of everything".
Called complacency
@Hás Starship7 beat me to it!
Wise words
@Hás Starship7 100% agree, I ride with fear, embracing it, not trying to get over it.
8 years in, still ride with fear, keeps me thinking the worst of car drivers or that everyone is drunk behind the wheel and is about to hit me so I'm always ready.
@Hás Starship7 No question. The fear has to be there, riding with you. Always aware, always looking, making sure you have multiple exits in case something happens. If you let your guard down........well you now.
The triplets story sounded wholesome, but then I remembered what I was watching and knew this didn't have a happy ending.
I can relate
@@macaulyatwood oh no - relate to the triplets you mean? I hope you're ok & not depressed mate... xo
U had to ruin it for me huh 😂😂 totally forgot the channel I was watching and haven't finished watching it yet ...and now looking at this comment
Same here
it’s even more sad and pathetic that the extent of the whole debacle won’t be known for another 43 years!
As the mother of identical twins, I found the triplet story totally horrendous. My twins have always been like Twinkies. I feel so sad for these boys and their families. Just because an agency, and its clientele are wealthy, it doesn’t mean they should get away with experimenting with people’s lives. This was just wrong on so many levels. Infuriating!
Twinkies are wrapped individually and sold individually. Not quite getting your analogy.
I’m a psych professor and I teach this story to my general psych students. Nice to hear it from Mr. Ballen. Thanks for including this one, John. I hope to be around in 2066!
The adoptive father saying he would’ve taken all three boys in 😭😭😭😭
and it was the father who had the lowest income, was an immigrant and by the study’s finding, was the father who was around the most and very loving to his son 😭😭😭
Let's all cry together
I KNOOOOOW!
(I was adopted).
❤️😭😭
Absolutely! That father was furious and who could blame him? The triplet story was really fascinating and wonderful until the death of their brother. And the study? Who on earth thinks it’s okay to “study” (more like rip twin and triplet siblings apart) others without their consent or knowledge. Then they tried to hide it. I don’t know if that adoption agency still exists today but I can only hope it doesn’t. Anyone involved (besides the innocent families of course) is a piece of human garbage.
“They’re coming outta the woodwork!” Is such a mom thing to say haha
...
@@thatoneguy5966 lmfao
@@thatoneguy5966 agrees
@@Johndoe-ky1vn do i?
It really is..I keep waiting for another one to show up.
I remember watching Three Identical Strangers and seeing the footage of the separated toddlers doing their tests. It was haunting. It’s so cruel to separate multiples like that and not even tell them.
The triplets story makes me think of another pair of twins that were separated at birth, they lived practically identical lives despite being raised in separate conditions; they both had dogs with the same name, they married twice to women with the same names, had the same taste in food, alcohol, and cigarettes, and I think they were given the same name by their adopted families.
Source?
@@soom878uncle John’s bathroom readers
Yes. They basically lived the same lives although they had never met. You can Google it
I may be mistaken, but didn’t one of those twins have the same ending as Eddie?
My rich uncle adopted a kid and found out that he had a twin. The agency weren't going to let him adopt them both until after he mounted an expensive legal suit against them. In the end he was able to keep the sibling together and brought them into his loving home.
Wow. Cool. Way to go for your uncle.
That is a very good man. Lucky boys
I believe the project was never really shut down.
@@xElvirax I agree, when the government start to admit stuff, then there's something even darker they're hiding...
🙌🥰
Nah bro I was waiting for “ AND THEN THE FOURTH TWINNNNNN”😭
Also wtf was that thumbnail. Not hating just wondering why it had nothing to do with the video😂
@@RocketCycleGaming the thumbnail is of one of the dc shooters from the first story lol
@@waterbottlettv oh ok
Yeahhh me too
Nah it's double twins
Every time you said "the third twin" I laughed a little. There is no third in twins! But in all seriousness - those poor triplet boys never stood a chance. I'm sure this amazing adoption agency was tricking poor or single mothers into giving up their twins or triplets so they would have enough for their "study." I imagine the records were sealed long enough so that no lawsuits could come out of this evil and tragic experiment. Humans really are horrible.
Thank you! “Third twin” was just killing the English teacher in me. Ahhh!!! He’s better than that.
"Tricked" might be a tad strong... Having a single baby can be a strain on anyone's budget, and there are already plenty of parents-to-be who choose adoption as a viable alternative to abortion... Trying to "do the right thing" has consequences, and when you're already juggling bills and just subsisting with faith, ONLY to find out that instead of A baby, you're about to have 2 or 3, it can be facing the impossible...
While twins are relatively rare, we have to consider that in just the U.S. there are about 350 to 400 MILLION people, so that's a LOT of couples at or hovering around and below the poverty line... As rare as it is to naturally have multiples, it DOES happen, so the agency wouldn't have a lot of trouble finding a "pool" for the study... Maybe a little "sales" push, but trickery didn't need to be involved... AND even today with the nicest among adoption agencies, there are privacy concerns, so once you've signed off the form, giving up your parental rights, they can do whatever the hell they want with the children as far as placing them is concerned... That one form ENDS your control entirely.
AND legitimately, in the U.S. (at least) adoption is an expensive damn thing to do. It's tedious as much as materially consumptive. While that SHOULD weed out folks without the financial capability to raise more than one child, it IS still a legitimate argument that most couples want to adopt ONE at a time. There are exceptions along with folks who are willing to take multiple children as a "bonus" or "bargain"... at the risk of sounding callous... BUT that's also relatively uncommon. It does make sense that agencies are willing to separate twins and triplets or more to get them to homes that will take care of them, frequently without even mention that there are siblings. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 - Adoption agencies NEVER separate twins or triplets. Google it. It is completely unethical.
This was some sort of government-backed study on nature vs nurture. They deliberately desperate twins and in this case triplets and put one in a poor home with poorly educated parents, one in a middle class and one in a wealthy home with highly educated parents.
hey wanted to answer the age-old question as it had massive meaning for eugenics and society. If they found a child in a poor environment turned to crime but the genetically identical one was a doctor they are going to want to remove kids from poor environments based on this proof.
There have been countless studies on this as it has such wide-reaching implications for society. If you have genetically identical test studies they believe you could answer it once and for all. That is what this experiment was all about. Separate twins and see if they are different in different environments. The reason they know the government was involved is due to the doctor's connections and the fact the experiment is still sealed.
They were all used in this study.
If you are interested they now know for sure it is genetic. Having advantages offers better opportunities but you are born how you are, it is all genetic.
The Noble prize-winning geneticist Robert Williamson told me this personally.
Oh it's possible, if you decide to home birth triplets and lose one.
*Source - My Idiot Sister
@@gnarthdarkanen7464it’s a movie about the triplets, it’s very interesting so I think you will like it , they are telling much about the agency of Louisa Wise too…
I will say no more bc it could ruin the movie/documentary… 😁 ruin the experience of watching it…
Sorry, English isn’t my native language! 😂
It was hard for me to understand all they talked about in the movie and I think I misunderstood plenty of it too 🤷♀️
but I do remember I was very angry at the agency !!!
🇸🇪👵🏻😘
I just hope these the brothers continued their relationship the rest of their lives and I hope their older men talking and laughing together as they should
I knew Ivan McGuire from work. He worked third shift and I worked second shift. He absolutely loved sky diving. One thing that wasn’t mentioned is that he had also came off of working 3rd shift at Northern Telecom. It wasn’t unusual for Ivan to go to the drop zone after working. I remember talking to him about it and he said he never stayed late so he could get home and get enough rest for the next day (night) of work. They asked him to stay to film the 3rd jump which was to late for him to be there but that was the type of guy he was, very kind and generous. I remember that day clearly as I was working that day. My manager came to me and said that he had heard Ivan died while sky diving. It was devastating, Ivan was a kind and gentle soul and I still miss him.
Are you okay? So sorry for your loss! Ivan seemed like a wonderful person & you are blessed to have known him.
Very sorry for your loss.
@@perfectfae3534 Thank you for your kind words. This happened back in the late 1980’s but I will always remember Ivan and his love of skydiving.
Thank you for sharing and I am very sorry for your loss. He sounds like was a warm and kind person.
its cool to see people related to the story commenting. kinda adds a little more realness to to the event.
In the last story, I love that Eddie’s mom’s reaction to the triplet is just to scream out, “They’re coming out of the woodwork.”
This! It made me laugh out loud.
@@brina5064 ☺️
How could you say anything else? 😉 I kept waiting to hear about a *fourth* twin. In fact, are we sure there's not?
@@AshesAshes44 I would not be surprised! Not one bit!
Lol..I was just gonna write that 😂..it made me chuckle 'they're coming out of the woodwork'!..hahaa
The last story... What about the birth mother?? Did she even consent to giving up her triplets!? This story is so interesting I am going to look further into this one for sure! I hope the remaining brothers are still close and that they don't have any feelings of guilt for dissolving their business.
She gave them to an adoption agency, generally parents can chose to keep contact or not, however the agencies dont reccomend it.
Once the parent gives their child up and agrees no to contact, the agencies could pull stuff like that sadly. Many universities and researchers continue to do horrible experiments on kids.
I mean, a lot of parents give up their children to adoption centres. She had triplets and was possibly expecting just one child. In some cases, the children would be put up for adoption because the parents can't take care of 3 children at once, and are also not able to live down the guilt of only choosing one of them. Could also be an accidental pregnancy.
9-10 its tied to MKULTRA psychological studies.
What if they really were clones? Or the mother may have been used to produce twins or triplets for their company?!
@@sown-laughter4351 what makes you say that? I don’t see anything suggesting mind control or MK
I am an identical twin and I participated in a study with my twin sister about mental health. Specifically, it was a study about how bipolar shows up in the brain. The actual title was way longer and technical but that was the gist I got. I don't have bipolar but my sister does and I thought the study was fascinating. Can't find the results but I do hope there are more ethical studies out there because it may bring medical breakthroughs. Anyway, great storytelling as always, Mr. Ballen!
Have you read I Know This Much Is True by Wally Lamb?
He was killing me saying the “3rd twin” instead of just saying the triplet😫
omg thisssss 😂
Literally every single time he said 3rd twin, I murmured Triplet
Ikr
Lol, yeah it was getting to me too. 😆
Then what would the second twin be called?
3 identical strangers is a great documentary about the triplets. It gets crazy and it is so sad at times. The dad saying he would have adopted them all still sits in my mind
I have a few questions:
Who were the original parents & why did they put their children up for adoption?
Why did they allow the agency to put them in this study? Did they even know about it?
sell the kids for food
@@b-dub6865 Their birth mother was really young at the time iirc, I think like 15, and the agency went through with the experiment because they needed the money.
For sure watch the documentary if you think this case sounds intriguing at all to you
@@Queen74-g4t Jesus... is that you!?
This story was very gripping to me. I have 2 twin brothers that are no longer alive.
Oh my God, I'm so sorry for you!!!
So sorry for your loss. To lose 2 brothers no matter their age, it would take a lot to live with. Best wishes.
In my gender psychology course in college we talked about the triplets. It was discussed that they had actually spent the first six months of their lives together and that likely played into their similarities. We also know that influence on a child begins in the womb as they eat specific foods, hear sounds through the mothers body, feel when the carrier is tense and calm, etc. Honestly the argument between nature and nurture is too black and white. We can continue to discuss what parts of ourselves are genetic and what is learned, but it is NEVER only one or the other.
I know for sure that twins are hardwired from birth. There’s some influence from nurture that affects them but it’s quite limited. (Yes, I have twins).
“They’re comin’ out of the woodwork!” 😂
Best reaction I could ever imagine an adoptive mother having! 😂😂😂
lol I was adopted and found my Birth family at age 32. No one in the family knew about me except Moms parents and aunt and Moms husband. So when Mom went to tell my half brother he had a third sister he was like. Ummm Well okayyyyyyyyy........ Mothers husband had been married before he married Mom and got divorced and his X wife refused to allow him to see the daughter they had together. Had no idea how to go about finding her. I found her for him and he was thrilled. So Mom had to tell brother he now had a 4th sister and siblings grew to 5. All was good. Months later Mom needed to talk to brother about something serious and he could tell by the tone of her voice she was very upset and nervous. Before she could tell him what was on her mind he interrupted her and said, " OH NO MOM NOT another sister!!" And NO it was not another one of us. He is a real fun guy and I get a kick calling him my little brother when he stands 6 foot 6 inches tall and I am 5 foot four.
Bruh I started crying with laughter
I bust out dying laughing 🤣 😂
😂 👏 the story was funny there for a second. Then it gets dark as fuck.
Bobby's freshman entrance would be the ultimate first day prank.
Not
i really thought it was an elaborate bit, that makes the story that much better
How was eddy a returning student and Bobby fresh out of hs yet they’re the same age
@@sethzabel1368 several ways, one could've entered kindergarten at 5, and one at 6, or one could have waited a gap year, from finishing high school before going to college, or one could've graduated early. My youngest daughter's are both in 4th grade, and a year apart. My oldest has tourettes syndrome so her medical team suggested waiting until she was 6 to go into kindergarten, so she could have an extra year of speech therapy.
@@sethzabel1368EEassy!
It’s good to see how much this channel has grown. I remember watching you back in 2018 when you first started. Good to see the growth
Literally the most interesting video I’ve ever seen- the parachute one was devastating and gave me heart palpitations- I can’t believe it. The triplets one….I smiled, I frowned, I yelled at the screen…”NO WAY!!,” and was at the edge of my seat. Unreal.
The triplets story reduced me to tears. I work with my brother every day, and we haven’t had so much as a disagreement since around 1995. I can’t imagine being separated from him in the name of an experiment.
What was the disagreement about in 1995
@@KM-ts6co you seriously care about that? like what ahah, one probably had a shit and didnt flush or didnt leave any toilet paper. Like who asks why to that ahah.
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 it had to be bigger than that though. Its been decades since they had an argument! Im curious what it was.
@@KM-ts6co same here, I gotta know @guitar guru what was the disagreement about?
Yeah, we wanna know! What was the disagreement about?
“They’re coming out of the woodwork” had me DYING 🤣
Me too 😂
Reminds me of bill burr
On god 😂😂😂😂😂😂
They're in the trees!!!
Same. I think it was the FIRSt time I’ve “laughed out loud” listening to Mr. Ballen. 💀
That last story was crazy. I kept getting a bigger smile until about halfway through.
Incredible...I have Identical Mirror Twins one out of a million in 1978 this story is heart wrenching to see how people mess with other people's lives! I'm 😢 that the one triplet in this story took his own life.
😂
Woooooooow 😂
Mirror twins aren’t 1 in a million
How horrible. I was adopted, and I can't even imagine how sickening it would feel to discover I was basically a lab rat....those poor boys, and all the other children that were used and lied to!
I totally agree with you! I was adopted in 1960 only one year before the triplets were born. It's scary to think that the agency and all involved in the despicable study got away with it. 🇦🇺😠🙈🙉🙊💖
@Louis Fontenot oof
That is sad, my sister and I were in Foster care together. I didn't know that I had a brother till I was 5. My sister is 4 years older than me. I was 1 years old when we were adopted out, my brother was a newborn. My brother and I share the same dad, my sister has her own dad. We all share the same mom.
Cry a river.You won the lotto by being adopted. Try spending your entire life in foster homes, then juvi till your early 20s. Then if you're lucky you stay out of adult prison. That's the path for many who aren't adopted.
It makes perfect sense about the twins study. They come from one egg. It could said that each of them are a piece of the puzzle. The puzzle doesn't work unless you have all the pieces.
I don't know if I want to hear about all of the tests that have been done on the public by giant corporations and the government.
Trust me on this, I worked in market research for 20 years.😬
The third story is terrifying, your entire life being a science experiment
We will probably all find out one way or another we were all science projects.
@@camvin575 true
where is the problem with that, if you never find out? if it comes out, sure, everyone is rightly furious about that.
It kinda sounds like the Truman show but worse
There is a documentary on these guys. It was amazing.
Not a missing twin, missing triplet
In the story about the identical triplets, the behavior of Louise Services in New York City remains a black mark on their reputation. Who could trust such an organization after they were collaborators in this study? When you told of Eddy's suicide, my heart sank so much. In this case, the unethical wacko running the study and Louise Services are partially responsible for his suicide.
how are they responsible for the suicide? 2 brothers didn't eliminate themselves. there's more story than that
@ethelann They're the ones who placed him with a cold abusive father on purpose.
...not to mention separating from his triplet brothers, who might've otherwise provided the psychological & emotional support that his father failed to give him.
This guy can actually tell a story
Ikr, he doesn't repeat things and is straight forward
He’s good at what he does he should be a story narrator for audio books.
Can he tell a story or can the writers
@@chandlerscaringia5260 he is the writer. Yes it takes stories that are already known but everyone he says are his own words there
He doesn't plagiarize
As an adopted child, the triplets' story has always angered me. I grew up knowing I had an older sister out there somewhere in the world and I instinctually sought out girls who were slightly older than me to be friends with. I desperately wanted that connection. When I was finally able to find my sister, the weekend we spent together freaked my parents out because of how similar the two of us were. The same laugh, the same gait, the same religious mindsets. We even *breathed* the same when we slept! My mom had poked her head into the room to check on us and found us sleeping in the same position, breathing in tandem. I can't even begin to imagine what that would be like if we had been identical.
Why don't you both meet up or hang out?. I hope you both just decided not to and not family interference...
@@mollybrolly4717 I live in Florida and she lives in Texas. We call and talk, but getting together is very difficult.
@@mahariwynn1339 oh , don't get me wrong , I know distance is a terrible thing, but, I'm sooo glad you both are still in touch and it's just that that is the problem ❤️... Are you at leàst face timing for Christmas?. Have a wonderful one please 😘
@@mollybrolly4717 Thank you. We probably will chat on Christmas for a little bit. I hope you have a wonderful one as well.
What would you want to do? Personally I said if you do something wrong your don't get to set the date when people get to look a your findings.
I had read about these triplets being separated in the parents who adopted them not knowing the child adopted had siblings that looked exactly like each other. The people who took part in this study should’ve been arrested, and that adoption agency closed permanently.
I grew up mostly without a dad as my dad passed away from lung cancer when i was 3 years old. So seeing how the three twins acted similar to each other strikes close to home for me as many people who knew my father since childhood or later on say i look like and act like him in many different ways, the big difference being i'll never smoke anything!
Ironic that Eddie, the triplet who seemed to have so many friends who cared about him, eventually killed himself because he couldn't handle a serious conflict with his brothers. It's as if he felt he had no emotional support network.
Superficial friends
The sad ones always looks the happiest
@@garlicoshallots200 yup look at Robin Williams :(
Maybe he didn't want to burden those he cared about with his problems. It doesn't have to mean none of his friends or family cared about him. Sometimes people who are depressed keep that stuff bottled up because they don't want it affecting those they love.
@@lrose1310 right!! Sometimes they have a huge support!! They don’t feel it or don’t want to be a burden. I bet he had depression most of his life.
The triplets story was so heartbreaking all covered up as “science” this was a weird cruel experiment may Eddy Rest In Peace
You have a good heart
I love when I see genuine compassionate comments in CZcams comment sections.
Thank you and may God bless you and all those you care about.
This is why ethics committees are actually not a hindrance to science like some people might claim; if you have to hide your study from an angry mob, it can't be peer reviewed.
If it's not peer reviewed and replicated, it's not science, it's just speculation.
Ehh, ethically its wrong but it didnt effect the boys at all.
Its not like they knew about eachother, thats why they didnt care in the first place.
The fact that Eddie took his own life is an extreme outcome that noone could’ve forseen.
These kind of studies are extremely important to the understanding of the human psyche and really interesting
It’s not ethical at all, I’m surprised they were even able to do this. I thought you couldn’t experiment on children anymore after the baby Albert experiment
It is unethical, but psychology is rlly though field, a lot of speculations which cant always be proven, and you cant jeopardise the experiment by informing the parents or the kids, so the only way it could be done is by keeping them in the dark. These kind of experiments happened a few times in the past and were mostly unsuccessful, or cancelled after some time. Its truly awful to be used as a lab rat especially if it proved or discovered nothing.
Halfway through your video, I suddenly remembered this study when I studied psychology at Staffordshire university in 2003. I then paused the video to tell my husband. We then watched the other half and I said to my husband I told you so x Mayim x
THANK YOU MR. BALLEN FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO MY FRIEND !!!
VERY INTERESTING STORYLINES !!!
I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THE BACKDROP PICTURES BEHIND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL !!!
The triplets is so sad. Eddie was so happy to have his brothers in his life, and when they fought it broke his heart. It makes me so mad those scientists did that. :(
We are instructed to so revere science and scientists these days. Let this story be a reminder that science doesn't necessarily care about people.
I would have kidnapped them and forced them to tell me all the details and then ditch them in the wilderness hours away from civilization totally naked.
It's bs,our lives are not to be played with like it's nothing.
Sucks how they got away with what they did to them
@Tristram Coffin
I sure know that now.
Couple weeks ago i was reading about a county back in the 30"s I think.
They gathered black men that tested positive for syphilis. Pretended to help.
Even after penicillin was available they never gave it to them. Dirt poor people.
The ones that survived and when the story came out were given 36k. Many died many didn't.
But i was furious. The study was how long a person could live with it UN-TREATED.
Despicable
As an adoptive mother, and a person with a heart and soul, I’m angered and disgusted at the arrogance of people who would play with the lives of others. There are many prospective adoptive families who would not only welcome multiples, be they twins, triplets, or quads, but also older siblings. I’m furious. The loss of Eddie broke my heart.
I used to babysit foster children, I clearly don't have the same experience as yourself, but it broke my heart as well. It helps the kids tremendously in a mental way to stay together through homes or adoptive homes. Really wish this turned out differently.
The agency actually didn’t separate the children because it was harder to adopt them i respect you but you’re getting angry at something false the reason was for the study they were making
@@bigt5413 - And you somehow feel she ... in fact any normal individual .. shouldn't be furious at this unethical , sadistic and devoid of any scientific merit study ?? WHAT ?
Unless adopted as a newborn foster children are seriously fucked up
Eddie got the rawest deal of them all. But the very idea of separating the triplets (and twins in the "study,") is heartbreaking.
there is something about you that makes me listen to every word you say you have to be the most interesting people on utube
I can relate to the Identical Strangers, somewhat:
1980’s I worked for a well known oil company in New Orleans, LA. For years I was approached by random strangers who thought I was someone else. They all seemed to really like him. One day it happened in my building so I asked them who they thought I was. I don’t remember his name, but they knew his office #, same building! I couldn’t resist walking past his open door, slowing down, locking eyes, smiling & continuing on. It was like looking in a mirror. Beard, glasses, etc. … freaky.
Then I remembered my sister calling California in 1978, I was in college & she asked our mother to check on me. She swore she had seen me in New Orleans that day on a bus, by the oil company building she worked at, same street I’d work on 3 years later.
I never saw him again.
Imagine being so relaxed about skydiving that you don’t quadruple check that you are indeed wearing a parachute.
I personally don’t have the guts to even sky dive. 😟
I couldn’t imagine misplacing the parachute🪂 That’s horrible! @annaErb
Its basically like a gag you'd see on Looney Toons. Imagine he pulls the cord an anvil comes flying out.
Yeah but the imagine you really will be flying
Door just opens and the mans like: yahoo!
That's just called being distracted, like texting and driving, imo
RIP Ivan. What a terrible way to go, especially having time to think about your own quickly oncoming death... RIP
Thankfully, it was only for mere seconds and he had a nice view. Idk
…I’m trying to be optimistic today.
Had time to make whatever peace you needed, more than most
I'm sorry but how tf do you forget you parachute not once but TWICE? Seems like a Darwin award winner to me...
at least it was quick =/
Haha dude was an idiot shouldn’t have been a filmer with how careless he is…. Well was lol
Life truly is stranger than fiction :/
Its such crap that documents get blacked out like that when released. They just just say..."Its classified forever"
ya, it's not quite that simple in this case, i'd suggest digging deeper than what this video explains
"Adoptions at the time were closed adoptions. The research team had an obligation to preserve confidentiality about the biological history of the children. As Dr. Lawrence Perlman, a clinical psychologist and researcher in the twin study has written, the “adoptive parents, entering into a contract with the Louise Wise Services, were guaranteed that they would not know anything about the family background of their infants, including the possible existence of biological siblings.”
The open adoption movement was many years away. The filmmakers omit the information that the study began long before the rules of informed consent were codified by the National Research Act of 1974. Several researchers were involved in the study over approximately 15 years and it is important also to note that it had funding by the National Institute of Mental Health after review. "
in addition those people did publish papers on the studies and kept the subjects information confidential, and also why they remain confidential, because the original contract is still in play.
@@Cara.314 I was referring to classified documents in general, lol, but thanks for the info. Thats interesting. Ill def do a little more research on this case. I can imagine statutes were a little easier going back in the day. Great post😁
Declassification can be such a tedious process that, honestly, they probably don’t find it worth it.
Alot of the time its to hide wrong doing and avoid future liability.
@@Cara.314 I’d imagine that the triplets themselves would be able to read their own case, at the very least.
This just comes off as dodgy.
It's interesting that though Eddie was so emotionally fragile and came from an abusive home he was enormously well liked and popular in college.
Maybe he could be his real self away from dominant adoptive father, and would have blossomed. So sad that he never got to feel secure, even after meeting his brothers. Terrible way to treat children, Adoption Agency sounds like a damn puppy farm - selling kids to highest bidder? Saw the documentary, so tragic when you think it's all turning out great, then hear about the suicide..
@@biddylisduff This is the most key likely situation
A lot of depressed people are outgoing, life of the party and well liked. It’s like they put on a second face/ a cover.. I was the same way when I was younger and very depressed but I hid it. That’s why you shouldn’t judge a book by it’s cover and be there for everyone cause you really don’t know what is going on with people!
@@dalelenamarie7257 i am the opposite. i am depressed and i cant even fake a smile.
What's more is that the ppl conducting the experiment likely knew he was being abused, they made house visits.
MrBallen, Where do you find these incredible stories? I found you about 3 weeks ago and I'm hooked! Seriously great job. The way you tell the stories and the attention you pay to detail is top notch. Oh and my favorite part of every video what you recommend for the like button 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for making work and car rides less boring...
The real mystery is what the like button ever did to Mr Ballen
Man the last story is rough. I'm actually friends with a pair of twins even though one was put up for adoption, took them 20 years to find each other and lived only 15 minutes apart. Really cool guys, they both do tattoo work
Yeah it’s weird how your genetics make you who you are and not your brain...
@@republiquedujeu818 your genetics make up the basis of your brain
in my case there are a lot of twins in my family.. my dad was a set of twins (his brother died after birth) my grandfather was part of a set of twins.. i was originally a twin myself (my twin died very early on in the pregnancy my mother had a half miscarriage and lost them however i was still there) and i have two younger brothers that are twins (originally triplets as she also lost one in their case) i can't imagine being used as a fucking lab rat
Oh my gosh. I'm so glad that they found each other. I hope they are doing well. I'm not a huge supported of abortion but the the opposite is that you get stories like this
@@Epic-pf8od like a foundation? Or a incomplete map?
I'm also an identical twin separated at birth due to financial difficulties of my parents. Years went by as I searched for my evil twin (I was clearly the good one). One day I found my evil twin rescuing people from a flash flood. I was like, dammit.
Ok
🤣 turns out you really found real evil twin that day.
Turns out I were the evil one lol
Lol same.
"...and then I robbed a bank."
That triplet study was horrible. I could have told them that information. My sister lost custody of her daughter when she was a baby, I adopted her. I was shocked how much she was like her mother she never knew. Her mannerism, speech, what she liked and disliked etc.. identical. She was so much like my sister I accidently called her by her mothers name several times. She looked liked her and acted exactly like her.
Another jaw dropper John !!! Thank you.
The triplet story actually made me tear up a little 🥺. They were genuinely so happy to find eachother and became instantly close and the fact that they were robbed out of getting to grow up together just breaks my heart. Rip Eddie 💔
They all have families.
I feel bad for Eddie man. Met his brothers and then took his life 🥺
The most disturbing thing about the study with those triplets was where did they get the triplets from?
A plant farm in Pennsylvania...
Back then, there were many homes for pregnant and unwed teens. These teens were usually bullied by parents and/or the home to give them up.
Also disturbing it sounds like the study proved upbringing and parenting determined there outcome in life . Maybe the study didn't prove what they wanted. In society some say poverty and a broken home is an excuse for poor choices. This doesn't fit the narrative that you must be a bad person and it isn't cause of your environment .
I immediately thought maybe they were using fertility drugs on women willing to give up babies, and profiting from these adoptions. More babies, more money.
@@jays0909 Good. It would have been awful if anything else was proven by this study.
This is one of my favorite ones here, especially the "third missing twin" story 😃
Dude you’re awesome! Keep doing what u are doing💯🙏🏾
The third story is equally fascinating as it is horrific.
It was awesome. They had to seperate them to see the results.
Not triplets. CLONES
The most disturbing part of that experiment is that it was done by a Hebrew group, on Hebrew twins.
And if memory serves, that's not the first time experiments were done on Hebrew twins.
So I play video games because of my genetics? Wieeerrrrrddddd
Word!🤙🏻
Being adopted and having twin daughters myself, it makes me so goddamn angry to hear that the twins and triplets had no choice but to be involved with this “research”. It’s disgusting, it’s human testing.
All research is for the betterment of mankind
@@PapiSen555 not all and most of it will damage mankind like this one
@@PapiSen555 look at the Nazi testing and the Tuskegee trials before you say stupid things. Not _all_ study is for the betterment of mankind.
@@availanila well without research we wouldn’t have things like medical treatment and knowledge about the unknown such as space and the ocean
@@availanila when the japans made those horrifying test on humans in world war, they were testing living humans without any kind of anesthesia, they died so they were technically torturing those ppl, When the war was over those japan scientists were left free because they gave the Americans all the research results, they got out of these test and well the way they did it was totally graphic and horrifying and it wasn’t really for the betterment of mankind, the purpose of those test were for the war, they wanted to find a way to kill the enemies without guns I guess but at the end of the day it helped for the betterment of mankind
I guess this is why we do pre jump checks on all of our mates in the plane - just to catch the possibility of a terrible accident 😪
guys I literally cried... I got sentimental because I honestly can't imagine the triplets and their families and what they are still going through. I know one passed away and his death and the whole thing has made an ethical damage that is too big to figure out. Deeply saddens me. I feel disgusted by that agency... I plan to adopt in a couple of years and honestly, I now know to have this in mind because this is horrible. Absolutely won't go to the agency mentioned and will try my best to do the work to adopt my child in the best way possible.❤
“Experienced” is a death sentence on this channel. And don’t get me started on “avid outdoorsmen”
The more you do a thing, the greater your skill is, the higher chance I feel like that you'll overlook "easy" "routine" things. :( Also someone commented on this:
C Moniz
1 month ago
I knew Ivan McGuire from work. He worked third shift and I worked second shift. He absolutely loved sky diving. One thing that wasn’t mentioned is that he had also came off of working 3rd shift at Northern Telecom. It wasn’t unusual for Ivan to go to the drop zone after working. I remember talking to him about it and he said he never stayed late so he could get home and get enough rest for the next day (night) of work. They asked him to stay to film the 3rd jump which was to late for him to be there but that was the type of guy he was, very kind and generous. I remember that day clearly as I was working that day. My manager came to me and said that he had heard Ivan died while sky diving. It was devastating, Ivan was a kind and gentle soul and I still miss him.
😂
“Figured “
@@blindey A common theme I noticed with a lot of these "skilled" people is that they become complacent until its too late for them.
@@IchiJewSan Totally. Complacency kills pretty well. Sometimes really fast. Just saw a story where a dude died in a rebreather class a few minutes after it started.
I honestly thought Eddie was going to kill Bobby…that’s what binge watching Mr Ballen will do LOL!!
Omg me too lol
@@petuniab.222 You two could be twins or something. 🤣😂
@@rapperelementm it'd be crazy if they were
Imagine watching a video about identical twins being separated then finding your identical twin
@@shanthanramsamy7421 Yeah. 🤯😂😄
Heh, it can do that to you. But I mean that’s not what happened to me, I personally now feel like I need to have a weapon on me.
Dang still hard to believe I've been here since before MrB even had a few thousand subscribers, now he has nearly 7 million, let's get him to that spot
The title "Complacency Kills" is so spot on. I think I live by the idea that, becoming complacent is when you make errors. It's when things will begin to go wrong. Never get too comfortable. That doesn't mean, always stay on edge, but always be vigilante.
I’ve seen the documentary with the triplets and it’s so sickening how they separated them just for the sake of some idiotic research WITHOUT even informing anyone.
The boys from Brazil?
They started the experiment when it was common. This isn't one of the worst I've heard of. Thankfully the laws have changed. I think because the experiment started before the law change that is how they got away with it.
@@codeXenigma yeah I just did intro psych and the disgusting Baby and animal experiments was crazy!
The most disturbing part of that experiment is that it was done by a Hebrew group, on Hebrew twins.
And if memory serves, that's not the first time experiments were done on Hebrew twins.
@@brooklynnwest4439
I received a BA in psychology in 1978 so I know even more about some of the crazy psychological experimental tests they did on kids in the day. Like the twin boys who were circumcised and ones penis was accidentally burned off so they had his parents raise him as a girl to see if sex was an inborn brain idea or due to upbringing. Did not turn out good for the boy who never felt like a girl and later committed suicide.
So they intentionally put eddy in a situation to create emotional instability and lied and hid later causing a higher risk to his mental health. They are 100% responsible. If they had been honest then he would've been better prepared to mentally cope when they had normal sibling issues
Also something that’s not mentioned here is that the adoption center and the psychologists knew their mom had an history of mental health issues that led her to give them up for adoption if i remember right, so they wanted to see if they’ll get mental health issues too bc of the genetics, growing up without knowing this information (they discovered it later on) and they all three have in fact an history of mental health struggle at some point in their childhood, the whole experiment is just so wrong…. You rlly should watch “three identical stangers” on netflix, so worth it, cause it goes in depth about their relationship and drug abuses when they got famous etc, which i think also plays a huge role in mental instability when there’s already mental health problems unsolved…. Sorry for my english, not my first langage lol) bye take care
@@ninzouz aww 😓 It makes the whole story even sadder. Just knowing about that would have definitely helped have Eddy alive today. That whole experiment was so messed up. Even more messed up: the fact that these "scientists" were able to do that and not be thrown to prison!
Just playing around people's lives and future, pure evil, the whole lot.
Left over eugenics theory... So sad that they were able to do this to kids.
That first story is a great example why you should always trust your instincts. Worse case scenario, you misjudge but you are safe, best case scenario, it will save your life.
Excellent. I loved the last story. Great job!
The beginning of the triplets' story where Bobby found himself being the center of attraction of the entire campus initially made me anxious because it felt like a scene from a psychological thriller movie. Then the story went nice and wholesome so I thought this was one of Mr. Ballen's few stories that actually had a good ending. But then towards the end, I'm being reminded that "Good endings" only occur at which point of the story you wish to stop reading or listening.
Wow, I went almost through the exact same process.
The third story is the CRAZIEST story I’ve ever heard in my life it just kept getting stranger and stranger..
The movie Twins touches on lab stuff
Geaux tigers
RIGHT?! I actually had seen this docu, but I guess bc it’s SUCH an insane story, my mind registered it only up to the part where they were happy triplets... The su!cide came back to mind right away.... but somehow I literally all but forgot (or blacked out?) that it was a fn psychological experiment.
Tell me this doesn’t seem like a legit netflix show. One that would seem too over the top if it wasn’t very well done.
I just never imagined this scenario in my head before it’s crazy the experiment these people were able to run without anyone knowing and even more crazy the twins found each other. I did hear ppl accused a nazi of running this same experiment before I forget his name they called him the angel of death
@@DECAYED- I've heard that too
the TRIPLETS meeting was an ACT OF GOD.
Mr. Ballen videos are best enjoyed while working night shifts.
My twins get anxious if they're separated for less than a day. How dare they experiment on those kids like that
In the documentary they mentioned that all three the of the triplets (and the other twins IIRC) as toddlers showed behaviours consistent with separation anxiety.
Even worse: If they will do a study like this without a second thought; What OTHER studies has the (another thing not mentioned; CIA letter head) evil scum at the CIA carried out that HASN'T been discovered yet...? And even more; Why do "We The People" allow them to get away with their crimes, unpunished...? Anyone OTHER than these scum bags would have been charged for MURDER of that man!
@@brentfarvors192 what crimes
@@hydrogamer471 Relevant; Your avatar pic is RELEVANT! Uh...IDK; Carrying out an EXPERIMENT on biological twins, without their informed consent...? Literally THIS: czcams.com/video/Lpq8xX-bcic/video.html
@@hydrogamer471 ... The adoption agency not telling the parents that there are triplets, twins or other relevant information. Forcing participation in the experiment without the consent of those they were conducting the experiment on aka the parents prior to the adoption of the triplets, twins etc. I would also venture to say that the parents of the children to be adopted were never told that the children were to be a part of an experiment as well and more than likely told lies about their children that were twins or triplets being adopted by the same family vs what really happened.
Informed consent is needed and agreed upon by those who are to be a part of the experiment by law. So the experiment was conducted illegally and immorally. I am sure a good lawyer could dig up more laws broken and crimes committed but since nothing was done at the time of discovery I am sure nothing will be done today.
The story of Eddy, Bobby & David is currently on Hulu called “Three Identical Strangers”. It’s really good. So sad to hear about Eddy. After finding true happiness with his brothers to go into a downward spiral is so tragic.
Thank you! I was just abt to try and find that documentary
I watched it about a year ago, crazy stuff
Im gonna have to check it out when I get the chance. Hopefully I don't forget
Sounds like a black op cia operation. My guess something to do with cloning. Lawyers scared about the case? Classified until 2066? All hallmarks of our amazing cia
Yeah I saw it. Really sad.
I’ve been watching mrballen for years, this has to be my 6th or 7th play through on all his vids and I’ve yet to find any of these secrets in the vids 😬🤦🏼♂️😭😂
Thank you for telling us stories!
That adoption agency popped champagne and celebrated because their test worked. Their study or whatever it was they were working on worked. Such filth in this world. 🙄
Why do people still use that adoption agency?
I kinda feel like it has something to do with mind control and the impacts of your enviornment idk...but i feel like its deeper than what theyre making it seem
Quadruplet.
No it was an adoption agency
it literally said in the video they celebrated because they got away with it. Like why are you assuming more
“They’re coming outta the woodworks!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bobby’s first day sounded like an unpopular kid dreaming how they really wish it like for them at school. That stood out for me, described so well.👌🏾
I don't know anyone who wouldn't get a God loving smile out of this story. Very good story.
The triplets story gave me cold chills!!!
I was adopted. In foster homes a long time because I had a brother and sister. They didn’t want to separate us so we were in foster homes many years!!
"They're coming out of the woodwork!' LOL one of the funniest MrBallen moments for me, that was great.
I laughed out loud for real bc that is absolutely something a Long Islander / New Yorker would jokingly say. I can 💯 hear either my family or even myself saying something like that - it’s just a certain type of humor that we have.
Or, who knows, maybe we’re all just siblings separated at birth so there’s that natural inclination to joke that way - ha ha (a joke, obvs)
People should not be allowed to play God with peoples lives.
Well, people are not allowed to do that. But as you see here, people do evil shit
Look at the way society is going with marriage and divorce rates, as well as custody, child support, and alimony. Not to mention cheating and other shady things. Fem movement etc., I believe..... that there is a study being done right under our noses with this type of thing to ultimately ruin the family unit. Just a thought.
@@wadestanion4617I'm curious what is this family unit 🤔🤔🤔
@@fitzsavior3562 sounds like your family unit is in your sock drawer
@@ss67camaronut LMAO
I have heard this story before, but there is another story just as crazy or more... It was about three guys that were searching for their real parents ... Not only did they stumble on each other, they discover they all shared the same father while searching on an online data base website for adopted children...
The story goes on to say that when their father was in college, he had donated his sperm for money. It turns out that he had made over 100 donations during his four years in college. They found that the father had made over 100 children, all of which were adopted by over a hundred different parents...
This is insane!
@Mr Ballen: As always, thanks for all your great stories! Keep them coming! Blessings to you and yours!
Oh yeah, this was a great episode! 👍
MrBallen, we require merch!! A flannel style hoodie/t shirt with “I am a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious in story format,” would be, well, ballin!!
I've been asking for merch too for over a month now...I'd love to support him and rock some Strange, Dark and Mysterious clothes. ❤️
I would buy his merch! Love love love his strange, dark, and mysterious stories😁.....and I agree that it would be ballin!
I agree and would definitely purchase.
@@daves2058 same
Also you should hook up with a manufacturer of those wedding rings
Everything you post is gold sir
Anyone else come to the conclusion the twin/triplet study was government funded?
This last story, wow! Just shows how the rich can make humans their Guinea pigs and not be held accountable.
Thought the same thing
But we can always piss on their graves.
@Elizabeth Martin Yeah I know, it's just a small consolation.
Covid Vaccines... Cough cough
Yes, and it is despicable and unconscionable! And that is why this study so to speak will never probably be published.
Learned about the triplets as a freshmen in a psychology course in college. It was really disgusting to learn how these men were basically treated like lab rats their entire lives.
Edit: And the worst part was that the files that documented what the study learned were locked away basically until these men are well beyond dead!
I watched the documentary on Netflix and it left my blood boiling. How dare people take these kids away from each other. They missed out on so much. Tragic.
@@1888.cfc. what is the name of the documentary
@@maryharemza82 Three Identical Strangers
@@DiodeMom it’s not popping up on my Netflix
They were in my first year psychology text book!
You have very good and interesting videos ! I am a fan, congrats from Romania, keep it up !
The story about the three brothers finding each other is awesome so could they found each other.
It's pretty common knowledge that whenever the words "twins" and "psychology" appear together, the answer is almost always "nurture vs nature".
And the answer to that answer is nature.
@@tron103 there is no one answer. its a mix of both. The best hypothesis I've heard in my psychology class likened both sides to a coloring book, nurture is the outline and nature is the actual colors. Basically, nurture is the foundation that guides how nature influences you. They work hand in hand to create the whole picture.
@@tron103 I mean doing English language a level would change your opinion on that. Sure it mostly focuses on language development but we have to look at a lot of Nature and Nurture theorists and theories. It shows that its a bit of both are needed.
@@tron103 ,
If there was a definitive answer, there would be no debate at all....
Besides, have you heard of these things called spectrums?
See, the reason the report is locked away is because it is yet another 'doesn't prove either way' result. Only this involved who knows how many children, three boys and two girls where mentioned in this video, to get that non-conclusive result. If I was a researcher and I had ended up with this very result... I too would want them to shelve it long after I was dead. No need to be just another failed case in the long path of people who have tackled this issue.
That or the plot of Metal Gear Solid.....which I guess is also about Nurture vs Nature...and a giant nuclear robot dino mech.
It's like as soon as he starts telling the story, the atmosphere completely changes. Good vid MrBallen.
Mr Ballen, thank you so much for doing this story. I'm sure other probably asked you to do it as well. It means a lot that my family gets this pertinent information.
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Sorry @JustMeBoo Rockstar, but are you implying that you are actually related to somebody in one of these stories???
@@themoojuice89 who care?!! 🤡🤡🤡
@JustMeBoo Rockstar, Brendan asked you politely.
@@Woo_Woo_Woman that wasn't rude. That's simply saying why do you care. It's my life. It's my post. If you don't like it don't comment. Simple -- nobody really cares about others lives. They care because of what they can get from another. Sometimes those whom actually want to care about a comment off the internet typically thrive off of dramatic events and conversations. I'm not with the drama of a narcissist. It's all good. No worries-- people on the internet are not always real.
That last story is one of my absolute favorite on your entire channel! No matter how many times I hear it is always still so exciting!
Soeone should go into Yale's archives and take that study to make it public and available to knowledgeable professionals that can interpret it. The unethical SOB who locked it there should not have a saying and the victims of his cruel experiment deserve to benefit from it.
People who profit from such things should have their wealth stripped from them and given to the victims.
At the VERY LEAST, that agency and all involved should be required to notify every one of those children and their families. I’ve already commented once, but dammit, I’m SO ANGRY! 🤬
Why does yale protect an unethical study even if it waa sealed by the scientist it was unethical so why should they follow what his wishes were
@@angelsosa5903 I would imagine that whether the study was ethical or not, Yale has to follow their own rules on the basis of being ethical.
did you even watch the video? it's clearly mentioned that most of the report is redacted anyway