Seasmoke was checking him out in one of the first episodes. He said ''they'll just continue giving me random dudes, and I've already have someone in mind. So I'll just do it myself,''
People forget seasmoke’s origin rider was Corlys’ son and the Dragon senses a similar genetic make up in Corlys’ bastard son to his last bond, so picked him. Fun fact: Seasmoke is said to be the dragon, Dany’s three dragons in Game Of Thrones descend from. That is why the makers made Seasmoke the dragon that looks closest to the Game Of Thrones Dragons.
As a fellow Potterhead, Oak referencing Dumbledore's quote about how people who seek power aren't suited for it, that warmed my li'l Potter obsessed heart 😅
Aemond is still pissed over the fact that he was constantly bullied by Aegon but Alicent never did a damn thing to stop it. That's why he always goes to Sylvie at the brothel whenever he needs to feel comforted. Alicent never taught either of them how to be decent & kind. She has never been half or even a quarter of the loving & nuturing mother as Rhaenyra was to her sons. She always coddled Helaena, but ignored the two boys that stayed in King's Landing with her.
Thank you for that. Alicent to wasn't raised well by Otto, just a pawn for power, and as such she did the same with her sons, evil begets evil. The coldness of her heart froze those of her Red Keep sons.
@@vbb2076they didn’t really bully him more so just jokes😭and you CANNOT say that a little joke here and there means they’re horrible ppl and that rhaenyra is a bad mother….they were children…as semi grown ups you can see who’s more kind than others
@@the_glitter_isTrauma bonding is a thing. And „appropriate“ is subjective. Why is a hug okay but a kiss is too much? It‘s natural to feel sympathy for someone you hold dear. Sympathy often translates to physical affection. It‘s implied in the books that Mysaria was in a throuble with Daemon and Rhaenyra. It‘s not like the show just made it up.
Addam being Corlys’ bastard would give him some Targaryen ancestry. Velaryons have mostly married into the Targaryen family but there was at least one instance of a Targaryen marrying a Velaryon who was an ancestor to Corlys.
CORLYS had like one TARGARYEN ANCESTOR but blood got mixed with other houses and eventually Targaryen blood fade away otherwise he would ride dragon himself ,he Valyrian just like Celtigars but they are not Dragon lords so it is not possible that Addam have Targaryen blood from Corlys unless mother was some Targaryen bastard
@@halobebe6151 Haha don't worry about it. It's not 100% clear in the books either, there is debate about how Addam can ride. I won't spoil the differences here, but this might be why you've heard conflicting answers!
Addam has Velaryon blood through Corlys. The Blood Magic from Old Valyria encompasses both Targaryen & Velaryon blood. Both Targaryen & Velaryon can bond with dragons. Seasmoke had his eye on Addam due to missing his prior bond with Laenor, who is now confirmed to be dead because that is when the bond breaks and a dragon can bond with another, only this time the Dragon sought out his rider rather than the contrary. Fun Fact: Aegon the Conqueror's mother was a Velaryon.
At the same time Aegon's mother, a Velaryon, married into house Targaryen, a Targ princess also married into house Velaryon. They have shared blood going way back
There is no confirmation that death is the end of the bond. That is just a fan theory or our way of understanding things. The ``bond`` might as well have broken when Laenor abandoned Seasmoke and the dragon can ``feel`` that its rider is leaving them. This topic is not well understood so we cant really say for certain how it works...
@@milanistanorway yes but why wouldnt death be the end of a bond? Never seeing someone that you know ever again in life is almost the equivalent of death, isnt it?
@@djkly1 Yeah, you could say that. It has a nice metaphoric meaning to it and I'm not saying the end of the bond is not death. I'm just saying, we don't know for certain that: bond breaking = death of rider... Because in your original post you said ``confirmed to be dead``, which isn't necessary a fact, because we don't know if Leanor is dead or not.
The fact that Rhaena might be the one to keep Lady Jeyne’s wish to have a dragon to protect the Vale by claiming a wild dragon! Whatever is in store for her she will ensure House Targaryen’s future
I suspect she will fail to claim it. Since the moment her character came on screen, she has done nothing but complain about being dragonless. She would be a much more compelling character if she finds her worth BEFORE she claims a dragon, or just never gets one and finds her worth anyways. Having her complain to everyone and even poor 6 year old Joffrey then suddenly get a dragon is boring.
The sheep bones looks like foreshadowing that it could be sheep stealer. I'm predicting that they give Nettles storyline to Reana and maybe she'll be the one to claim sheepstealer
@@YenShively and instead of Daemon and Nettles love interest, maybe we will have a Daemon and daughter Rhaena relationship rekindling. But that's just sad if Daemon recognizes her only after she has gained a dragon.
@@Kit_Kal_2016oh I'm feeling anxious that it seems the track the show is going for. But how about he dragon Morning. I would really still want to have Nettles and Morning in their proper place ,fingers crossed
Daemon and Viserys final scene together got me choked up and crying. Finally seeing the brotherly love between the two of em that we all knew was there, just hidden beneath resentments.
Seasmoke to Ser Steffon: "You don't smell like Laenor. WTH - you can't fool me. You're flame broiled meat now!" Seamoke to Addam: "Hey, you smell like Laenor - I miss that dude! OK, close enogh, take a seat on my back."
the mad king is daenearys father, but a lot of targs are crazy because of all the incest their line had over the centuries, there is a saying in GoT " madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land"
Bullshit, do you know that over 300 years of them ruling only like 5 Targaryens were mad and like 2 were king the reswere just cruel but only 1 war called mad and it Daenrys grandfather who came up with told that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land. but he could made that up and the whole madness is probably maesters propaganda to end them
All Targaryens being mad is a show thing and a myth created by Robert's rebellion cause victors write the history. In the whole 3 centuries of Targaryen rule only 4 Targaryens were said to be the bad blood but each had their own stories. The mad king (Dany's father) was imprisoned for 6 months in a dungeon that caused malnourishment and psychological side effects in him later on in life. Aerion Brightflame Targaryen was arrogant enough to think that wildfire would make him turn into a real Targaryen. These two are the only ones we can truly call mad. Maegor I was simply just cruel but his actions were necessary if the Targaryens were to remain supreme monarchs above all authorities. Aegon IV was a big jealous fool and out of pettiness legitimized all his bastards. We can even count Baelor for being a Holy freak to the point of weakening the political aspect of the crown but at least his reign wasn't that long.
Rhaenyra was fed up of her council and not taking action, no way she wasn't gonna sit back when an unknown (to her) takes one of their dragons.....Seasmoke was Leanor's Dragon, Addam and Allyn confirmed this episode that they are his half brothers (Corlis's bastards). Seasmoke felt that Velareyon connection in Addam. "The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion" - Viserys to Rhaenyra in Season 1.....More to come!
"The Mad King" is Aerys II's moniker. He got it for being a bit of a pyromaniac, and he's the last Targaryen king before Robert's Rebellion. Daemon is dead by around 200 years before the start of Game of Thrones so its not connected to him. Love the reactions look forward to next week's.
I’m not arguing, but isn’t there a statement in GoT that the Targaryen “madness” seems to skip certain generations or every other generation (it was in reference to Dani). So maybe there is a connection? 🤔 (I haven’t read the books….) But that was my first thought was that “madness” in various ways does run through the Targaryen line. I dunno. I’m just enjoying the ride! ✌️
@@jenniferkasowicz9463" King Jaehaerys once told me that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
You do need *Valyrian* blood to bond dragons. Valeryons are a Valyrian house and they also intermingled with the Targaryens having lived next door for centuries. So through Corlys his bastards do have Valyrian blood.
... and Jacaerys, Lucerys, Joffrey, Rhaenys (at least in the book), the other Rhaenys (Rhaegar's daughter by Elia) and loads of Aegon the IV's children. I'm sure there have been more than that even.
Steffon was done dirty with his oafish demise. In the book, it was him, not Erryk, who smuggled out the crown & brought it to Rhaenyra. He was very important & loyal to her; I wish they didn't change it for the show. He deserved better.
Has anyone noticed when Alicent was wounded in the arm? She remembers when she cut Rehnira with the dagger, she has the feeling that she is now being punished by the seven
I love how much of a factor the small folk play in all this. It feels almost like theres a happiness meter from a video game you gotta keep your eye on.
@@RagingButtafly23 The dragons dont care about your family members or else Vhagar would've rejected Aemond for Rheana. Seasmoke probably just liked him for a different reason. Addam's blood isn't more special than Alyn's or Rheana's.
Corlys Velaryon' s House is an ancient family, with the blood of old Valyria in their veins, who were able to ride dragons. This is why Addam can ride Seasmoke. Which means Laenor has passed and the bond is broken. A dragon seeking out a rider is new I believe.
Also their family has intermarried with Targaryens multiple times throughout history, so it's natural that there would be some shared bloodline coming down through generations prior.
There is no confirmation that death is the end of the bond. That is just a fan theory or our way of understanding things. The ``bond`` might as well have broken when Laenor abandoned Seasmoke and the dragon can ``feel`` that its rider is leaving them. This topic is not well understood so we cant really say for certain how it works...
@@milanistanorway Yup. The reason why they're not confirming or denying Laenor's death is to keep the bonding mechanics just as ambiguous as they are in the source material.
You're talking about Jefferson Hall - he played Torstein in Vikings and Hakkon Chevalier in Oppenheimer. He was the knight who got killed by The Mountain in the Ned Starks Hand's Tournament in Season One of GOT ❤❤❤ I'm a but of a fan 😊
Corlys is actually valerian and who's to say the mom doesn't have targarian blood sea smoke chose Adam I think because his last rider was laenor coryls's son seasmoke smelled it in his blood and if you remember seasmoke has actually been staying around Adam for a while Adam spotted him when he was fishing for clams and such on the beach
Aemond maybe going power crazy releasing his mother from her seat, the look Alicent's face says it all! & Daemon's illusions are bringing out a vulnerable side to him we've not seen before & the tension in that Dragon taming scene, poor Sir Steffon & I felt that pain in that scene between Aegon & Aemond, ouchies! >.< & 15:10 that line by Quinn was said in such a nice, husky sounding voice there ☺️ & I wanted to see more of the tiny dragon too! Like Answer said he was adorable! ^.^ & I got that 'Stone Cold' reference! & what Oak said about anticipation of waiting for next episode & how it brings everyone together is true, I will admit thats what I'm like waiting for your full reactions to stuff, nothing better than that feeling of seeing a new one pop up & watching is always so exciting! 😁💚♥️
Jace is half Targaryen, dark hair Not that big a leap to Adam , who is half Valerian as alluded to. They did the ceremony with Sea Smoke, but he didn't end up with rider. So maybe he was primed and ready to go and found his own. I like how Aemond basically said to Larys you have shown you are capable of betrayal. You killed your own family, Otto is cautious , but always was 100 down for his family. Damon IS suffering a type of death. The person that comes out of there.I'm assuming is going to be a transformated Damon. He's told to wait but Reahnera is how can I act. filling the empty spaces Demon left. She's picking up a sword she's kissing his ex.Lover. Jumping on her dragon. I like also that I really just can't tell if Mysaria is just playing her, is half in half out ir is genuine and sincere . I saw an interview from Esquire magazine with the actor that plays Aemon and he basically said. You don't want your mother at work with you, do you?😂
Addam and Alyn are both bastard sons of Lord Corlys - his is Velaryon. Velaryon and Targaryen have mixed their blood lines for a long, long time. Addam and Alyn, though technically Velaryon, have blood of the dragon in them thanks to Lord Corlys. Hope this helps! :)
For the dragon riders, i think it's more like the dragon chooses the person but also has a little to do with blood relatives. But this season they are really pushing the idea that the dragons are very intelligent and kinda know whats going to happen, like Helena.
They did more than just send food. They've been slowly turning them against the Greens for multiple episodes now. This was the last step, not the only step.
Seasmokes previous rider was Laenor (Rhaeneras first husband, and Corliss and Rhaenys son) so maybe that is why Seasmoke is taking to Adam because he is familiar with the Valerion blood and Adam looks similar to Laenor.
Sad that Viserys and Daemon had so many misunderstandings. Daemon wasn’t celebrating, he was there but he was by himself, separated from the commotion and quiet, but Daemon is too proud to explain himself; and Viserys kept listening to Otto always speaking against Daemon. If they would have figured out how to stay close, none of the subsequent issues would have arisen.
And if not, his House is still from Valyria. 3rd possibility : the twins' unknown mother could have Targaryen blood. There are so much Targaryen bastards all around King's landing and Dragonstone ! And may bé even in Essos.
To my understanding the dragons sense anyone with the blood of Old Valyria aka the Velaryons and Targaryens. And the thinner the blood, the weaker the dragon claim possibly is. Aadam is Corlys’s son by blood and Laenor, Seasmoke’s first rider in season 1, Rhaenyra’s ex husband, was/is Corly’s son aswell. Maybe Seasmoke sensed a familiar scent or something…
"Wild" dragon just means it has no rider. ***or rather isn't bonded with anyone. Maybe that's better description I like that Alicent got cut the same place she cut rhaenyra last season. I don't have a problem with that kiss but its just a bit weird after her talking about what her dad did ya know?
@the_glitter_is in F&B Rhaenyra fancies women as well. this is a scene of profound intimacy in recognizing each others strengths and weaknesses, in that moment they only have their vulnerabilities and each other. it's actually genuinely beautiful
Damon is having heavy therapy right now, he may return a changed person and also with the army they need. Even dragon fire couldn't burn through that tension and awkwardness..
Mysaria doesn't work as an unofficial Hand, she works as an unofficial Master of Whisperers. Rhaena was an unofficial Hand before she died, and with her death, Rhanerys gave the official post to Corlys, acknowledging that House Velyrion should have had it all along.
No way you cut out your reactions to Aemond putting Larys in his place and calling him a toad 😂 I was so ready to see Oak’s reaction especially, since he loves our greasy lord so much!
Rhanerya mounted Syrax when she was 7, so she’s always been that girl. Baela told the Seasnake she’s Blood & Fire and that Driftmark needs to go to Salt & Sea. Alyn is part of Corlys’ crew so he’s Salt & Sea. There’s a fire in Addam to be recognized
Jace wasn't questioning whether non-Targaryen people could ride dragons. The belief had always been that only Targaryen's of noble birth could ride dragons. Jace questioned whether or not they truly had to be such, or if others WITH Targaryen blood could also ride dragon's. This includes the bastard children of Targaryens. That said, we still don't know for certain whether or not Addam has Targaryen blood. Remember, not all Targaryen's have silver hair. If he does not have Targaryen blood, then my theory is that Seasmoke recognized that he was very similar to Laenor, his previous rider, perhaps by sensing it or by scent. Allyn and Addam share the same father as Laenor, so I think it's conceivable that Seasmoke feels a connection to Addam because of that. As always, thanks for the great reaction! ❤
It's possible that Corlys has some Targaryen blood due to how Targaryens and Velaryons frequently intermarried. If this is the case, both Alyn and Addam probably have a teeny weeny bit of that as well.
“One Cut of the Dead” and “Wayne” Season 1. Please, there is a very good reason they are both 100% RT scores. I hope someday you guys get to experience the joy of watching these truly unique experiences.
Jace never said it could be just anybody to ride a dragon. He was agreeing with his mom about the person needing to have Targaryen blood. They were both saying we need to look at the other houses to see if somewhere down the line there’s a Targaryen who got married into a different family and their children, grandchildren and so on would have different last names but still had the Targaryen blood
I also think Addam reminds SEASMOKE of his previous rider Laenor Velaryon. They do look similar and both have the same blood as Corlys. I mean, Seasmoke was already peeping Addam in episode 2 or 3. Dragons are much smarter than they realize, Targaryens just hype themeselves up lol; thinking they're *the only ones* who can ride one - due to the 'blood of the dragon' incestuous lineage thing
Seasmoke has been restless since he lost Laenor as his rider. Laena the niece without a dragon would have been an immediate choice. Instead she was sent to the Vale by Rhaenyra. The next rightful rider is Addam if Seasmoke is going for the bloodline of Velaryon. It does makes me think that Laena may finally get to ride that wild dragon at the Vale of Arryn. These two dragons will help the Black to take on the Green.
I’ve heard book readers say that they are merging Rheana story with a character from the books who might have been a bastard and did claim the wild dragon so…
Aemond trying to say Larys devotion to his family is in doubt because of what he did to his brother and father when him betraying his family is the reason Otto became hand again plus Larys became the Lord of Harrenhall and inherited all the riches while Aemond tried to kill Aegon and couldn't finish the job and only gained a temporary position. I'm glad Alyss broke Daemon down because he needed to understand that he can't do this without Rhaenyra just like she needs to understand she can't win without him. The white worm's idea of sending the food was the chess move that Rhaenyra needed because she lost the people when the little boy got his head cutt off. Seasmoke was the mvp of the episode. Loved the reaction by the way.
We have a dragon preferring a dragon rider that's hard to get vs an easy dragon rider, Daemon rewatching season 1 of HotD in IMAX at Harrenhal, Alys did Daemon a solid, Rhaenyra door dashing food to KL, Alicent fall completely out of power, Aegon's incompetent friends in the Kingsguard getting their asses handed to them and making things worse and me now reconsidering my hatred towards an Aegon and Larys team up. George RR Martin is diabolical, isn't he? Lol A great episode!
@@aileenpi73 not sure when it comes to Corlys direct line. However, I don’t think how far back matters in the case of House Velaryon since they have Valarian blood (unlike the knight, Addam & his brother have more Valarian blood). I know Aegon the Conquerors mother was a Velaryon. I think having the blood of Valaria is enough for the current dragons. I know House Velaryon were sea people and not dragon riders, but I really don’t think it’s a set in stone “they can never ride a dragon” type of thing.
@@jLachelle3 in the books it is because not any family in Valeria could become a dragon rider family. Maybe only the families whose blood was used in the original incantation and blood sacrifice.
If Steffon Darklyn had a bit more confidence I think he would living his best life on top of a dragon with his hair in the wind. Steffon got almost as much Targaryen blood in him as Adam of Hull does. Velaryon's themselves are not dragon riders but since they are both very strong houses they have mixed in the past. Velaryon and Targaryen blood have mixed in Corlys anscestory.
Your wrong and right about Sir Steffon, he most likely has as much Targeryen blood as Addam, but he has much much less Valyrian blood. Remember that the Velaryons them self come from Valyria and Corlys has a valyrian blood. Which then means Addam is a direct descendant of a valyrian. While Sir Steffon as they stated has a grandmother of his grandmother with valyrian blood. Its also unknown who Corlys mother and grandmother is, which means there could be a marriage to a Targaryen closer than we at this moment known of. But that doesn't really matter, because nowhere in the lore does it say that Velaryons cant be dragon riders. Its just that this wasn't their way from the origin of their house and had never been their ambition. As i and many others understand the lore. Everyone with valyrian blood could be a potential dragon rider, its just that nobody has testet those waters (little Velaryon pun there 😉)
So do Velaryons ride dragons or not yall book readers seem to have read different books or something??? I've literally seen people arguing that they do and don't!!!
@@DukeJimbob Velaryons originally didn't ride dragons until they married with Targaryen's. But they are originally from Valyria just like the Targaryen family and therefor can ride them, but it hasn't been their way or tradition to do so. They were merchants and masters of the sea. So they tried to keep to their roots until they started marrying the Targaryen's. Just an example, Aegon the Conqueror`s mother was a Velaryon...
Some info for Oak when it comes to the book: this series is all in one book, but the book spans a much larger time span, beginning more than a hundred years before this series start, so the series actually begins in the middle of the book. It's "impossible" to say whether or not the series is faithful to the book, because the book is so vague and is told from tons of different perspectives with people's opinions, because it's like a book written IN the Game of Thrones universe, basically just being a history book for the people that live in that universe. And I think this is supposed to be the real canon, hence why us book readers are so eager to find out what happens in this series as well. For example, the entire Daemon at harrenhal part wasn't in the book at all. All we got from that was basically just: "Daemon went to Harrenhal"
Alyn and Addam are both Corlys' bastard sons (which makes Addam half-brother to Laenor, Seasmoke's original rider). The Velaryons were from Valyria like the Targaryens but they weren't dragonlords. They did have a history of inter-marrying with the Targs so the implication in the show seems to be that either traces of Targ (or other dragonlord bloodline) ancestry *plus* Valyrian blood in general or maybe Darklyn showing too much fear *then* a touch of arrogance when he said he'd 'done it' made Seasmoke reject him and go for Addam instead. The more interesting question in this scenario is the implication that either Laenor died offscreen in Essos (when Rhaenyra noted with Mysaria that he'd been 'restless as of late'), or that with enough time and separation a dragon will bond with another rider while their original one is still alive.
Your enthousiasm makes me so happy. How Can people find this show boring ? Very pleasant to rewatch this good episode with you, guys. Did you notice Alicent was hurted the same place same arm she cut Rhaenyra.(Sorry for my english)
I like The Oak's talk of waiting for the episode every week. I get together with some of my family members every Sunday for games and dinner then we watch the episode. We have done that since GOT season 8. I wish the other spin offs would come out soon so that could continue. Look forward to it all week
Just so you know, S1E1 told us that this show started 172 years before the birth of Daenerys. We did have some time skips but at this point it's still 155 years until Dany is born. And her father was the "Mad King" Aerys II, so no spoilers but it's not likely to be Daemon!!
I always understood that to bond with a dragon you need Targaryen blood, not just Valerian blood. Many houses in Valeria were not dragon riding houses, but all had Valerian blood.
In the books Addam and Alyn are Laenor's sons so it makes sense that he tamed Seasmoke because he has targaryen blood in him but in the show it doesn't make any sense they have 0 targaryen blood as they are Corlys's sons
Addam and Alyn are sons of another character in the books but here they are shown to be Corlys's sons. So, to give you a bit of information, in the books, some houses have this "tradition" where if you rule in some place and some smallfolk are going to get married the woman that is going to marry has the "blessing" of sleeping with her ruler (in this case was Corlys) and if they have children of that joining they are "blessed". Many houses stopped doing that becuase is was updated for them but Targaryens and Velaryons continued. Those children are called "dragonseed", in other words, "bastards". So, Addam is of immediate blood to the people who can ride dragons, so, the believe that only Targaryens can ride dragons is still present. If I mixed something here, you are free to correct me. I hope this helped
Hey not sure if you guys read comments a lot but, there are wild dragons. Wild meaning they’ve had little to no contact with people, don’t live in captivity, and are far more dangerous than normal “tamed” dragons. There are three, I believe. Grey ghost, sheepstealer, and my personal favorite, the cannibal. Also, not sure the direction the show is going compared to the book, but keep that guy who lost his hand in your memory.
A wild dragon is simply an older dragon that has never had a rider. Generally, if a dragon gers to be older without taking a rider, it never will. Approaching one is extremely dangerous.
Aemond has moved past the eye thing, that is what Alicent still holds on to, and I am sure Aemond is over it with her thinking is all about the bulling. Now that he has power, he wants power and itches to use it.
His older brother, who was shaving his white small hair from his baldhead. I’m predicting he will be riding silver wing as his younger brother is riding now sea smoke … I can feel it before the season is over
Also, their is Targaryen blood in Corlys. He had previous members of his family that married a Targaryen. I don't know why they didn't have dragons after that marriage, but maybe their children didn't have a dragon accept them and they just didn't try again? But there is Targaryen blood in them
You guys haven't read the book, and arguably this show might be a better way to experience the story the first time, and then the book after. The book is an interesting but weird one - it's written like an "in-universe" history book so within the book itself there are multiple biased opinions of the truth, and some things lost to time, and a lot of rumours and hearsay. The reader is supposed to read the accounts of what happened and decide for themselves what the most likely truth is. This show has done a fantastic job (so far) at threading the needle between all the accounts and misleading us in some ways that two accounts were half-true and things like that. The nature of the book allows for a lot of freedom and flexibility of the showrunners to come up with just one possible interpretation which they are showing to us. For example, in the book, Alicent is portrayed as much crueller and one-dimensional - is this the truth or was she simply misrepresented in the histories (the book) for one reason or another and she was actually more compassionate like the show portrays? And this is just one small example! Other examples are that we don't know for sure who is sleeping with who, they rely on rumours, and Alicent's misunderstanding upon Viserys' death is written to be a calculated move, and Aemon deliberately killed Luke and Arrax. Is the show making changes to the book plot or simply showing us the actual truth (as the showrunners decide it to be) and the book just misunderstood or misrepresents the actual events? A cool concept, and allows a lore-obsessed person like myself a chance to (mostly) relax at the show not ruining the book and even surprise me sometimes.
I just watched a video on another channel that broke down how much Targaryen blood each character really has and most have a very low percentage. Some of these dragonseeds have more than some of the main characters and some a lot less. Adamm and Alyn have very little and yet one of them at least is a dragonrider. Even Rhaenyra has less than one would think. Blood percentage isn't the only thing that makes a dragon rider as poor Ser Steffon Darklyn found out the hard way. If anyone is interested the video is entitled "Targaryen Blood percentage for every Targaryen" by Everything Explained.
To Oak about Seasmoke. He chose Adam as rider, not the other way around. Also remember that Alan & Adam are brothers & both bastard sons of Corlis with Valeryan blood. The fact that Alan's hair is white doesn't make a difference. The important fact is that Seasmoke was Laenor Valeryan's dragon & he immediately recognized Adam as half-brother to Laenor. Some have said that all Valeryans have traces of Targarian blood because of centuries of cross breeding between them. But I think their connection was more Valeryan than anything else. He looked like Laenor.
The show messes this up but both of the brothers have Targaryen silver hair in the books and of course purple eyes so it’s clear that he’s a dragon seed with Valyrian blood. As for who his father was, it’s unconfirmed and the people of Westoros had their own theories.
When you said "See, that's how you walk up to your dragon" I'm like....well...Targarians have been brought up WITH dragons. As you see, Rhaneras boys were playing with the dragon babies. It's a bit different for someone who's not use to being so close. Let alone try to claim one.
Okay so I’ve seen book readers say they are both Valaryion, Corlys sons. I’m guessing the chosen rider dyes his hair. So yes he smelt his blood. Apparently book readers are saying that the valaryions are also dragon riders more so from old Valayria they have dragon rider blood too. But possibly when they fled to Westeros they became more seaman. I am unsure though. The Kiss seems to have every viewer and reactor by surprise. Both actors said it was meant to be a hug but felt the moment 🤷🏿♀️
@@DukeJimbob This is why I've long since stopped caring what the book people say. It's all unreliable narration anyway. As far as I'm concerned what happens in the show is what actually happened since we're seeing it from the actual characters perspectives and not some random historians account (that could be false or embellished).
That big , pinky ring , on the possible half blood in the pub. He looks at it, did he touch it? It's flashing around. It's out in front when he's holding his cup.
I don't know why youd think itd be Alyn with Sea smoke. Alyn is, as Baela said in the previous episode that she is not, "salt & sea". Baela is a dragon rider, not a sailor. Alyn is CLEARLY a sailor. Addam is the only choice for Seasmoke.
Seasmoke was checking him out in one of the first episodes. He said ''they'll just continue giving me random dudes, and I've already have someone in mind. So I'll just do it myself,''
lol so true
People forget seasmoke’s origin rider was Corlys’ son and the Dragon senses a similar genetic make up in Corlys’ bastard son to his last bond, so picked him. Fun fact: Seasmoke is said to be the dragon, Dany’s three dragons in Game Of Thrones descend from. That is why the makers made Seasmoke the dragon that looks closest to the Game Of Thrones Dragons.
I saw the same thing and he what's purposely looking for him
Y'all is it just me or do sea smoke look like drogon
Addam is Laenor's half-brother. Don't know who his mother is, nor how much Targaryan blood either of his parents have.
As a fellow Potterhead, Oak referencing Dumbledore's quote about how people who seek power aren't suited for it, that warmed my li'l Potter obsessed heart 😅
I could easily rewatch the Oak and the boys falling in love with the Potterverse again!!
@@laughingoutloud5742 I already have 🫣 more than once 🫣
Aemond is still pissed over the fact that he was constantly bullied by Aegon but Alicent never did a damn thing to stop it. That's why he always goes to Sylvie at the brothel whenever he needs to feel comforted. Alicent never taught either of them how to be decent & kind. She has never been half or even a quarter of the loving & nuturing mother as Rhaenyra was to her sons. She always coddled Helaena, but ignored the two boys that stayed in King's Landing with her.
Thank you for that.
Alicent to wasn't raised well by Otto, just a pawn for power, and as such she did the same with her sons, evil begets evil. The coldness of her heart froze those of her Red Keep sons.
she was such a terrible mother
i mean jace and luke, for all the love rhaenyra gave them, still builled aemond as well lmao. What does that tell you?
@@vbb2076they didn’t really bully him more so just jokes😭and you CANNOT say that a little joke here and there means they’re horrible ppl and that rhaenyra is a bad mother….they were children…as semi grown ups you can see who’s more kind than others
@@marigolden_mariposahow can you expect her to be when her own father groomed her?
Mason's inquisitive look watching the hug being too long made me chuckle 😂
Could almost hear the gears churning in his brain haha
Maybe when a woman confesses her sexual trauma, it's not the time to kiss her.....also, why can't we just have a meaningful female friendship?
@@the_glitter_isTrauma bonding is a thing. And „appropriate“ is subjective. Why is a hug okay but a kiss is too much? It‘s natural to feel sympathy for someone you hold dear. Sympathy often translates to physical affection. It‘s implied in the books that Mysaria was in a throuble with Daemon and Rhaenyra. It‘s not like the show just made it up.
@@the_glitter_is "why cant we" so like are you implying tv has no meaningful femae friendships? lol
@@the_glitter_isshow about cousins and siblings having sex but two girls kissing is a step too far. Get a grip
Addam being Corlys’ bastard would give him some Targaryen ancestry. Velaryons have mostly married into the Targaryen family but there was at least one instance of a Targaryen marrying a Velaryon who was an ancestor to Corlys.
Oh my comment looks dumb now I haven’t read books and took from so-called book readers 😂
Dragonseed or not, the man is gorgeous. I'd totally stalk him into riding me.
Also the valaryons could have interbred with other dragon lord families prior to the doom.
CORLYS had like one TARGARYEN ANCESTOR but blood got mixed with other houses and eventually Targaryen blood fade away otherwise he would ride dragon himself ,he Valyrian just like Celtigars but they are not Dragon lords so it is not possible that Addam have Targaryen blood from Corlys unless mother was some Targaryen bastard
@@halobebe6151 Haha don't worry about it. It's not 100% clear in the books either, there is debate about how Addam can ride. I won't spoil the differences here, but this might be why you've heard conflicting answers!
The slash on Alicent's arm mirrors the time she grabbed the dagger and slashed Rhaenyra's arm in Season 1.
gfs with matching scars
Addam has Velaryon blood through Corlys. The Blood Magic from Old Valyria encompasses both Targaryen & Velaryon blood. Both Targaryen & Velaryon can bond with dragons. Seasmoke had his eye on Addam due to missing his prior bond with Laenor, who is now confirmed to be dead because that is when the bond breaks and a dragon can bond with another, only this time the Dragon sought out his rider rather than the contrary.
Fun Fact: Aegon the Conqueror's mother was a Velaryon.
At the same time Aegon's mother, a Velaryon, married into house Targaryen, a Targ princess also married into house Velaryon. They have shared blood going way back
There is no confirmation that death is the end of the bond. That is just a fan theory or our way of understanding things. The ``bond`` might as well have broken when Laenor abandoned Seasmoke and the dragon can ``feel`` that its rider is leaving them. This topic is not well understood so we cant really say for certain how it works...
@@milanistanorway yes but why wouldnt death be the end of a bond? Never seeing someone that you know ever again in life is almost the equivalent of death, isnt it?
@@djkly1 Yeah, you could say that. It has a nice metaphoric meaning to it and I'm not saying the end of the bond is not death. I'm just saying, we don't know for certain that: bond breaking = death of rider... Because in your original post you said ``confirmed to be dead``, which isn't necessary a fact, because we don't know if Leanor is dead or not.
Thanks for the info that’s exactly what I thought as a non-book reader. I have to say season 2 of HOD I am starting to read the books
The fact that Rhaena might be the one to keep Lady Jeyne’s wish to have a dragon to protect the Vale by claiming a wild dragon! Whatever is in store for her she will ensure House Targaryen’s future
I suspect she will fail to claim it. Since the moment her character came on screen, she has done nothing but complain about being dragonless. She would be a much more compelling character if she finds her worth BEFORE she claims a dragon, or just never gets one and finds her worth anyways. Having her complain to everyone and even poor 6 year old Joffrey then suddenly get a dragon is boring.
The sheep bones looks like foreshadowing that it could be sheep stealer. I'm predicting that they give Nettles storyline to Reana and maybe she'll be the one to claim sheepstealer
@@Kit_Kal_2016 yes, this. Seems very much so that Condal has fused Nettles with Rhaena.
@@YenShively and instead of Daemon and Nettles love interest, maybe we will have a Daemon and daughter Rhaena relationship rekindling. But that's just sad if Daemon recognizes her only after she has gained a dragon.
@@Kit_Kal_2016oh I'm feeling anxious that it seems the track the show is going for. But how about he dragon Morning. I would really still want to have Nettles and Morning in their proper place ,fingers crossed
Daemon and Viserys final scene together got me choked up and crying. Finally seeing the brotherly love between the two of em that we all knew was there, just hidden beneath resentments.
❤
Shame they cut it.
@@jackson857it never happened. This is what Daemon wishes he did.
daemon is a terrible person through and through
Seasmoke to Ser Steffon: "You don't smell like Laenor. WTH - you can't fool me. You're flame broiled meat now!"
Seamoke to Addam: "Hey, you smell like Laenor - I miss that dude! OK, close enogh, take a seat on my back."
the mad king is daenearys father, but a lot of targs are crazy because of all the incest their line had over the centuries, there is a saying in GoT " madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land"
Bullshit, do you know that over 300 years of them ruling only like 5 Targaryens were mad and like 2 were king the reswere just cruel but only 1 war called mad and it Daenrys grandfather who came up with told that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land. but he could made that up and the whole madness is probably maesters propaganda to end them
All Targaryens being mad is a show thing and a myth created by Robert's rebellion cause victors write the history. In the whole 3 centuries of Targaryen rule only 4 Targaryens were said to be the bad blood but each had their own stories. The mad king (Dany's father) was imprisoned for 6 months in a dungeon that caused malnourishment and psychological side effects in him later on in life. Aerion Brightflame Targaryen was arrogant enough to think that wildfire would make him turn into a real Targaryen. These two are the only ones we can truly call mad. Maegor I was simply just cruel but his actions were necessary if the Targaryens were to remain supreme monarchs above all authorities. Aegon IV was a big jealous fool and out of pettiness legitimized all his bastards. We can even count Baelor for being a Holy freak to the point of weakening the political aspect of the crown but at least his reign wasn't that long.
Rhaenyra was fed up of her council and not taking action, no way she wasn't gonna sit back when an unknown (to her) takes one of their dragons.....Seasmoke was Leanor's Dragon, Addam and Allyn confirmed this episode that they are his half brothers (Corlis's bastards). Seasmoke felt that Velareyon connection in Addam. "The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion" - Viserys to Rhaenyra in Season 1.....More to come!
"The Mad King" is Aerys II's moniker. He got it for being a bit of a pyromaniac, and he's the last Targaryen king before Robert's Rebellion. Daemon is dead by around 200 years before the start of Game of Thrones so its not connected to him. Love the reactions look forward to next week's.
I’m not arguing, but isn’t there a statement in GoT that the Targaryen “madness” seems to skip certain generations or every other generation (it was in reference to Dani). So maybe there is a connection? 🤔 (I haven’t read the books….) But that was my first thought was that “madness” in various ways does run through the Targaryen line.
I dunno. I’m just enjoying the ride! ✌️
@@jenniferkasowicz9463" King Jaehaerys once told me that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
@@c.conrado8632thank you! Yes, that was the line I was thinking of!
You do need *Valyrian* blood to bond dragons.
Valeryons are a Valyrian house and they also intermingled with the Targaryens having lived next door for centuries. So through Corlys his bastards do have Valyrian blood.
Little baby dragon is named Stormcloud and belongs to daemon and rhaenyra’s son aegon.
John Snow had targerian blood and he was dark hair...
... and Jacaerys, Lucerys, Joffrey, Rhaenys (at least in the book), the other Rhaenys (Rhaegar's daughter by Elia) and loads of Aegon the IV's children. I'm sure there have been more than that even.
Yeah the boys hair is black though because they take after their dad his gene is Strong....errr than their mothers
The show does have a habit of changing hair colours 😅 Princess Rhaenys, whose mother was a Baratheon, was supposed to be dark-haired as well.
Seasmoke was like ''You know what? i am gonna search my master on my own''
Literally "fine, I'll do it myself"
Steffon was done dirty with his oafish demise. In the book, it was him, not Erryk, who smuggled out the crown & brought it to Rhaenyra. He was very important & loyal to her; I wish they didn't change it for the show. He deserved better.
they changed and cut many things if you not noticed
Has anyone noticed when Alicent was wounded in the arm? She remembers when she cut Rehnira with the dagger, she has the feeling that she is now being punished by the seven
06:32 "Maybe somebody's holding the door" and I immediately thought of Hodor 😭😭
I love how much of a factor the small folk play in all this. It feels almost like theres a happiness meter from a video game you gotta keep your eye on.
Seasmoke really said “I just wanted to talk to you about your car insurance, waitttt! I’m not going to hurt you!!!”
Gecko insurance truly evolved
💀
Seasmoke said “I’m a simple guy, I see dreadlocks and I’m sold”🤷🏻♀️😂😂
I'd seek him out, too. That man is gorgeous.
@@the_glitter_is Him and his brother...and Corlys😍
Seasmoke just trying to stay loyal to the Velaryons
@@liverpuddin22The actor that plays Alyn his speaking voice is out of this world. His voice is made for Shakespeare!!! 😊
These dragons are like we pick you, you don't pick us!! UMMKAY 😂
Seasmoke: Don't run dude, you're mine!
Addam must be so lucky if a dragon claimed him 😂
The dragon distribution system in action
Well he is laenor's half brother. Maybe he's familiar.
@@brxaneta Dragons truly are just big winged cats in all regards huh
@@RagingButtafly23 The dragons dont care about your family members or else Vhagar would've rejected Aemond for Rheana. Seasmoke probably just liked him for a different reason. Addam's blood isn't more special than Alyn's or Rheana's.
Dragon distribution system at work
Corlys Velaryon' s House is an ancient family, with the blood of old Valyria in their veins, who were able to ride dragons. This is why Addam can ride Seasmoke. Which means Laenor has passed and the bond is broken. A dragon seeking out a rider is new I believe.
Also their family has intermarried with Targaryens multiple times throughout history, so it's natural that there would be some shared bloodline coming down through generations prior.
There is no confirmation that death is the end of the bond. That is just a fan theory or our way of understanding things. The ``bond`` might as well have broken when Laenor abandoned Seasmoke and the dragon can ``feel`` that its rider is leaving them. This topic is not well understood so we cant really say for certain how it works...
@@milanistanorway Yup. The reason why they're not confirming or denying Laenor's death is to keep the bonding mechanics just as ambiguous as they are in the source material.
A lickspittle is basically an old timey yes man to the powerful people 😂
Did you guys notice Alicents Kingsquard? An Awsome cameo from Vincent Regan (Captain Artemis) from 300 🔥💯
oooh nice, gtk.
To me, Hugh always looks like he's just come off the set of "Vikings" And yes, I was worried for a few moments that he was going to eat the dog....
He looks like the dude from Vikings Valhalla but don't know his name though
You're talking about Jefferson Hall - he played Torstein in Vikings and Hakkon Chevalier in Oppenheimer. He was the knight who got killed by The Mountain in the Ned Starks Hand's Tournament in Season One of GOT ❤❤❤ I'm a but of a fan 😊
Corlys is actually valerian and who's to say the mom doesn't have targarian blood sea smoke chose Adam I think because his last rider was laenor coryls's son seasmoke smelled it in his blood and if you remember seasmoke has actually been staying around Adam for a while Adam spotted him when he was fishing for clams and such on the beach
Aemond maybe going power crazy releasing his mother from her seat, the look Alicent's face says it all! & Daemon's illusions are bringing out a vulnerable side to him we've not seen before & the tension in that Dragon taming scene, poor Sir Steffon & I felt that pain in that scene between Aegon & Aemond, ouchies! >.< & 15:10 that line by Quinn was said in such a nice, husky sounding voice there ☺️ & I wanted to see more of the tiny dragon too! Like Answer said he was adorable! ^.^ & I got that 'Stone Cold' reference! & what Oak said about anticipation of waiting for next episode & how it brings everyone together is true, I will admit thats what I'm like waiting for your full reactions to stuff, nothing better than that feeling of seeing a new one pop up & watching is always so exciting! 😁💚♥️
only a Velaryon with dreadlocks can ride Seasmoke
Also, book readers: Are we thinking the man whose arm was cut off ends up being the Shepherd?
Yes he is the shepherd
ooh I didn’t think of that!
Jace is half Targaryen, dark hair Not that big a leap to Adam , who is half Valerian as alluded to. They did the ceremony with Sea Smoke, but he didn't end up with rider. So maybe he was primed and ready to go and found his own. I like how Aemond basically said to Larys you have shown you are capable of betrayal. You killed your own family, Otto is cautious , but always was 100 down for his family. Damon IS suffering a type of death. The person that comes out of there.I'm assuming is going to be a transformated Damon. He's told to wait but Reahnera is how can I act. filling the empty spaces Demon left. She's picking up a sword she's kissing his ex.Lover. Jumping on her dragon. I like also that I really just can't tell if Mysaria is just playing her, is half in half out ir is genuine and sincere . I saw an interview from Esquire magazine with the actor that plays Aemon and he basically said. You don't want your mother at work with you, do you?😂
Addam and Alyn are both bastard sons of Lord Corlys - his is Velaryon. Velaryon and Targaryen have mixed their blood lines for a long, long time. Addam and Alyn, though technically Velaryon, have blood of the dragon in them thanks to Lord Corlys.
Hope this helps! :)
For the dragon riders, i think it's more like the dragon chooses the person but also has a little to do with blood relatives. But this season they are really pushing the idea that the dragons are very intelligent and kinda know whats going to happen, like Helena.
They did more than just send food. They've been slowly turning them against the Greens for multiple episodes now. This was the last step, not the only step.
Seasmokes previous rider was Laenor (Rhaeneras first husband, and Corliss and Rhaenys son) so maybe that is why Seasmoke is taking to Adam because he is familiar with the Valerion blood and Adam looks similar to Laenor.
Sad that Viserys and Daemon had so many misunderstandings. Daemon wasn’t celebrating, he was there but he was by himself, separated from the commotion and quiet, but Daemon is too proud to explain himself; and Viserys kept listening to Otto always speaking against Daemon. If they would have figured out how to stay close, none of the subsequent issues would have arisen.
(Corlys' wife) Pronounced Ray - neice 😂 Corlys has Targaryen blood their houses have always been close.
And if not, his House is still from Valyria.
3rd possibility : the twins' unknown mother could have Targaryen blood.
There are so much Targaryen bastards all around King's landing and Dragonstone ! And may bé even in Essos.
To my understanding the dragons sense anyone with the blood of Old Valyria aka the Velaryons and Targaryens. And the thinner the blood, the weaker the dragon claim possibly is. Aadam is Corlys’s son by blood and Laenor, Seasmoke’s first rider in season 1, Rhaenyra’s ex husband, was/is Corly’s son aswell. Maybe Seasmoke sensed a familiar scent or something…
"Wild" dragon just means it has no rider.
***or rather isn't bonded with anyone. Maybe that's better description
I like that Alicent got cut the same place she cut rhaenyra last season.
I don't have a problem with that kiss but its just a bit weird after her talking about what her dad did ya know?
Right?! It feels like old creepy Game of Thrones. Why are we being robbed of a strong female friendship? Why is it always about sex?
@the_glitter_is
in F&B Rhaenyra fancies women as well. this is a scene of profound intimacy in recognizing each others strengths and weaknesses, in that moment they only have their vulnerabilities and each other. it's actually genuinely beautiful
So maybe not a wild dragon, a "stray" perhaps?
Damon is having heavy therapy right now, he may return a changed person and also with the army they need. Even dragon fire couldn't burn through that tension and awkwardness..
Mysaria doesn't work as an unofficial Hand, she works as an unofficial Master of Whisperers. Rhaena was an unofficial Hand before she died, and with her death, Rhanerys gave the official post to Corlys, acknowledging that House Velyrion should have had it all along.
No way you cut out your reactions to Aemond putting Larys in his place and calling him a toad 😂 I was so ready to see Oak’s reaction especially, since he loves our greasy lord so much!
Rhanerya mounted Syrax when she was 7, so she’s always been that girl.
Baela told the Seasnake she’s Blood & Fire and that Driftmark needs to go to Salt & Sea. Alyn is part of Corlys’ crew so he’s Salt & Sea. There’s a fire in Addam to be recognized
Jace wasn't questioning whether non-Targaryen people could ride dragons. The belief had always been that only Targaryen's of noble birth could ride dragons. Jace questioned whether or not they truly had to be such, or if others WITH Targaryen blood could also ride dragon's. This includes the bastard children of Targaryens.
That said, we still don't know for certain whether or not Addam has Targaryen blood. Remember, not all Targaryen's have silver hair.
If he does not have Targaryen blood, then my theory is that Seasmoke recognized that he was very similar to Laenor, his previous rider, perhaps by sensing it or by scent. Allyn and Addam share the same father as Laenor, so I think it's conceivable that Seasmoke feels a connection to Addam because of that.
As always, thanks for the great reaction! ❤
It's possible that Corlys has some Targaryen blood due to how Targaryens and Velaryons frequently intermarried. If this is the case, both Alyn and Addam probably have a teeny weeny bit of that as well.
@@reit.2889 Yeah, I read that in a few other comments.
“One Cut of the Dead” and “Wayne” Season 1. Please, there is a very good reason they are both 100% RT scores. I hope someday you guys get to experience the joy of watching these truly unique experiences.
No, this story is over a century and a half before Game of Thrones. The Mad King is far away from this time.
Jace never said it could be just anybody to ride a dragon. He was agreeing with his mom about the person needing to have Targaryen blood. They were both saying we need to look at the other houses to see if somewhere down the line there’s a Targaryen who got married into a different family and their children, grandchildren and so on would have different last names but still had the Targaryen blood
I also think Addam reminds SEASMOKE of his previous rider Laenor Velaryon. They do look similar and both have the same blood as Corlys. I mean, Seasmoke was already peeping Addam in episode 2 or 3.
Dragons are much smarter than they realize, Targaryens just hype themeselves up lol; thinking they're *the only ones* who can ride one - due to the 'blood of the dragon' incestuous lineage thing
The wand chooses the wizard mr potter.
A dragon chooses its rider your grace.
As per Mason Quinn's query on who are dragon seeds, you either must have Targaryen or Valeryon blood to be a rider.
Seasmoke has been restless since he lost Laenor as his rider. Laena the niece without a dragon would have been an immediate choice. Instead she was sent to the Vale by Rhaenyra. The next rightful rider is Addam if Seasmoke is going for the bloodline of Velaryon. It does makes me think that Laena may finally get to ride that wild dragon at the Vale of Arryn. These two dragons will help the Black to take on the Green.
*Rhaena, Laenor's niece. Laena was Laenor's sister and Rhaena's mother who died.
I’ve heard book readers say that they are merging Rheana story with a character from the books who might have been a bastard and did claim the wild dragon so…
Yes, a character named Nettles.
Ah but don't forget that Rhaena and Joffrey stumbled upon the burnt sheep and field, so hopefully they found Sheepstealer
Aemond trying to say Larys devotion to his family is in doubt because of what he did to his brother and father when him betraying his family is the reason Otto became hand again plus Larys became the Lord of Harrenhall and inherited all the riches while Aemond tried to kill Aegon and couldn't finish the job and only gained a temporary position. I'm glad Alyss broke Daemon down because he needed to understand that he can't do this without Rhaenyra just like she needs to understand she can't win without him. The white worm's idea of sending the food was the chess move that Rhaenyra needed because she lost the people when the little boy got his head cutt off. Seasmoke was the mvp of the episode. Loved the reaction by the way.
Not hotd related but would be really into a yellowstone series reaction!
Seasmoke pulled up like “forget that Corlys guy he isn’t chasing away another one of my brothers!”
We have a dragon preferring a dragon rider that's hard to get vs an easy dragon rider, Daemon rewatching season 1 of HotD in IMAX at Harrenhal, Alys did Daemon a solid, Rhaenyra door dashing food to KL, Alicent fall completely out of power, Aegon's incompetent friends in the Kingsguard getting their asses handed to them and making things worse and me now reconsidering my hatred towards an Aegon and Larys team up. George RR Martin is diabolical, isn't he? Lol
A great episode!
😂😅😂 Rewatching in IMAX.... well said😂
Great comment 😂
Alicent fought for men to be in charge then is dumbfounded when they don't want her opinion anymore. Girl.....
@@the_glitter_is Lol this!
I got the impression thant Adam remind Seasmoke his ex rider Laenor
Yes, they are half brothers
17:36 thank you so much for not showing that guys 'cause i was just eating my breakfast LOL
The Mad King is 300 years after that...(Denerysés father, Jon Snow's grandfather)
Remember Jamie killed the mad king and this is many many many years before that. Queen Rhae Rhae is Dany's 6th great grandmother
Targaryens & Velaryions have intermarried since before Aegon Conquest, so they would have some Targaryen blood.
But how far back? Because the Kings guard guy had a Targaryen ancestor and it still didn’t work.
@@aileenpi73 not sure when it comes to Corlys direct line. However, I don’t think how far back matters in the case of House Velaryon since they have Valarian blood (unlike the knight, Addam & his brother have more Valarian blood). I know Aegon the Conquerors mother was a Velaryon. I think having the blood of Valaria is enough for the current dragons. I know House Velaryon were sea people and not dragon riders, but I really don’t think it’s a set in stone “they can never ride a dragon” type of thing.
@@jLachelle3 in the books it is because not any family in Valeria could become a dragon rider family. Maybe only the families whose blood was used in the original incantation and blood sacrifice.
@@aileenpi73 I didn’t read the books, I just know some stuff from what I’ve read online
Seasmoke really said darkskin not darklyn
😂😂bruh
This is my favorite 😂
If Steffon Darklyn had a bit more confidence I think he would living his best life on top of a dragon with his hair in the wind.
Steffon got almost as much Targaryen blood in him as Adam of Hull does. Velaryon's themselves are not dragon riders but since they are both very strong houses they have mixed in the past. Velaryon and Targaryen blood have mixed in Corlys anscestory.
Definitely - Seasmoke seemed to react to the initial fear and the ‘IVE DONE IT’.
Far too cocky at the end
Your wrong and right about Sir Steffon, he most likely has as much Targeryen blood as Addam, but he has much much less Valyrian blood. Remember that the Velaryons them self come from Valyria and Corlys has a valyrian blood. Which then means Addam is a direct descendant of a valyrian. While Sir Steffon as they stated has a grandmother of his grandmother with valyrian blood. Its also unknown who Corlys mother and grandmother is, which means there could be a marriage to a Targaryen closer than we at this moment known of.
But that doesn't really matter, because nowhere in the lore does it say that Velaryons cant be dragon riders. Its just that this wasn't their way from the origin of their house and had never been their ambition. As i and many others understand the lore. Everyone with valyrian blood could be a potential dragon rider, its just that nobody has testet those waters (little Velaryon pun there 😉)
So do Velaryons ride dragons or not yall book readers seem to have read different books or something??? I've literally seen people arguing that they do and don't!!!
@@DukeJimbob Velaryons originally didn't ride dragons until they married with Targaryen's. But they are originally from Valyria just like the Targaryen family and therefor can ride them, but it hasn't been their way or tradition to do so. They were merchants and masters of the sea. So they tried to keep to their roots until they started marrying the Targaryen's. Just an example, Aegon the Conqueror`s mother was a Velaryon...
@@milanistanorway thanks it’s hard to tell lol!!! The book readers seem to have different opinions on this
Is there no one around them that can tell then how to pronounce Rhaenys name properly? Oh the show their watching? Oh ok...😂
Ray Niece pronunciation
Agreed, the way mason says her name is so weird. I've commented previously on other episodes how to pronounce it but doubt he sees comments that much?
Why’d I think the thumbnail was their reaction to the kiss lmao
Rhanerya brings food.
Who created shortage of food by creating a blockade in the first place 😂
Some info for Oak when it comes to the book: this series is all in one book, but the book spans a much larger time span, beginning more than a hundred years before this series start, so the series actually begins in the middle of the book. It's "impossible" to say whether or not the series is faithful to the book, because the book is so vague and is told from tons of different perspectives with people's opinions, because it's like a book written IN the Game of Thrones universe, basically just being a history book for the people that live in that universe. And I think this is supposed to be the real canon, hence why us book readers are so eager to find out what happens in this series as well. For example, the entire Daemon at harrenhal part wasn't in the book at all. All we got from that was basically just: "Daemon went to Harrenhal"
Alyn and Addam are both Corlys' bastard sons (which makes Addam half-brother to Laenor, Seasmoke's original rider). The Velaryons were from Valyria like the Targaryens but they weren't dragonlords. They did have a history of inter-marrying with the Targs so the implication in the show seems to be that either traces of Targ (or other dragonlord bloodline) ancestry *plus* Valyrian blood in general or maybe Darklyn showing too much fear *then* a touch of arrogance when he said he'd 'done it' made Seasmoke reject him and go for Addam instead. The more interesting question in this scenario is the implication that either Laenor died offscreen in Essos (when Rhaenyra noted with Mysaria that he'd been 'restless as of late'), or that with enough time and separation a dragon will bond with another rider while their original one is still alive.
I acidentally got spoiled on wjere certain character end up or die in the books, and seriously I can twait to get my heart broken
Your enthousiasm makes me so happy. How Can people find this show boring ?
Very pleasant to rewatch this good episode with you, guys.
Did you notice Alicent was hurted the same place same arm she cut Rhaenyra.(Sorry for my english)
I like The Oak's talk of waiting for the episode every week. I get together with some of my family members every Sunday for games and dinner then we watch the episode. We have done that since GOT season 8. I wish the other spin offs would come out soon so that could continue. Look forward to it all week
Just so you know, S1E1 told us that this show started 172 years before the birth of Daenerys. We did have some time skips but at this point it's still 155 years until Dany is born. And her father was the "Mad King" Aerys II, so no spoilers but it's not likely to be Daemon!!
I always understood that to bond with a dragon you need Targaryen blood, not just Valerian blood. Many houses in Valeria were not dragon riding houses, but all had Valerian blood.
The actress took a real fish to the face. The stunt man who threw it is a cricket player. 🐟🐟👋
In the books Addam and Alyn are Laenor's sons so it makes sense that he tamed Seasmoke because he has targaryen blood in him but in the show it doesn't make any sense they have 0 targaryen blood as they are Corlys's sons
Addam and Alyn are sons of another character in the books but here they are shown to be Corlys's sons. So, to give you a bit of information, in the books, some houses have this "tradition" where if you rule in some place and some smallfolk are going to get married the woman that is going to marry has the "blessing" of sleeping with her ruler (in this case was Corlys) and if they have children of that joining they are "blessed". Many houses stopped doing that becuase is was updated for them but Targaryens and Velaryons continued. Those children are called "dragonseed", in other words, "bastards". So, Addam is of immediate blood to the people who can ride dragons, so, the believe that only Targaryens can ride dragons is still present.
If I mixed something here, you are free to correct me. I hope this helped
They are rumored to be Corlys' sons in the books too.
Hey not sure if you guys read comments a lot but, there are wild dragons. Wild meaning they’ve had little to no contact with people, don’t live in captivity, and are far more dangerous than normal “tamed” dragons. There are three, I believe. Grey ghost, sheepstealer, and my personal favorite, the cannibal. Also, not sure the direction the show is going compared to the book, but keep that guy who lost his hand in your memory.
A wild dragon is simply an older dragon that has never had a rider. Generally, if a dragon gers to be older without taking a rider, it never will. Approaching one is extremely dangerous.
8:28 ... no .... its "Perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it."
Aemond has moved past the eye thing, that is what Alicent still holds on to, and I am sure Aemond is over it with her thinking is all about the bulling. Now that he has power, he wants power and itches to use it.
His older brother, who was shaving his white small hair from his baldhead. I’m predicting he will be riding silver wing as his younger brother is riding now sea smoke … I can feel it before the season is over
Also, their is Targaryen blood in Corlys. He had previous members of his family that married a Targaryen. I don't know why they didn't have dragons after that marriage, but maybe their children didn't have a dragon accept them and they just didn't try again? But there is Targaryen blood in them
it’s funny because I too yelled at my boyfriend “THIS IS DUMBLEDOREs LINE”
You guys haven't read the book, and arguably this show might be a better way to experience the story the first time, and then the book after. The book is an interesting but weird one - it's written like an "in-universe" history book so within the book itself there are multiple biased opinions of the truth, and some things lost to time, and a lot of rumours and hearsay. The reader is supposed to read the accounts of what happened and decide for themselves what the most likely truth is.
This show has done a fantastic job (so far) at threading the needle between all the accounts and misleading us in some ways that two accounts were half-true and things like that. The nature of the book allows for a lot of freedom and flexibility of the showrunners to come up with just one possible interpretation which they are showing to us.
For example, in the book, Alicent is portrayed as much crueller and one-dimensional - is this the truth or was she simply misrepresented in the histories (the book) for one reason or another and she was actually more compassionate like the show portrays? And this is just one small example! Other examples are that we don't know for sure who is sleeping with who, they rely on rumours, and Alicent's misunderstanding upon Viserys' death is written to be a calculated move, and Aemon deliberately killed Luke and Arrax. Is the show making changes to the book plot or simply showing us the actual truth (as the showrunners decide it to be) and the book just misunderstood or misrepresents the actual events? A cool concept, and allows a lore-obsessed person like myself a chance to (mostly) relax at the show not ruining the book and even surprise me sometimes.
I just watched a video on another channel that broke down how much Targaryen blood each character really has and most have a very low percentage. Some of these dragonseeds have more than some of the main characters and some a lot less. Adamm and Alyn have very little and yet one of them at least is a dragonrider. Even Rhaenyra has less than one would think. Blood percentage isn't the only thing that makes a dragon rider as poor Ser Steffon Darklyn found out the hard way. If anyone is interested the video is entitled "Targaryen Blood percentage for every Targaryen" by Everything Explained.
To Oak about Seasmoke. He chose Adam as rider, not the other way around. Also remember that Alan & Adam are brothers & both bastard sons of Corlis with Valeryan blood. The fact that Alan's hair is white doesn't make a difference. The important fact is that Seasmoke was Laenor Valeryan's dragon & he immediately recognized Adam as half-brother to Laenor. Some have said that all Valeryans have traces of Targarian blood because of centuries of cross breeding between them. But I think their connection was more Valeryan than anything else. He looked like Laenor.
The show messes this up but both of the brothers have Targaryen silver hair in the books and of course purple eyes so it’s clear that he’s a dragon seed with Valyrian blood. As for who his father was, it’s unconfirmed and the people of Westoros had their own theories.
When you said "See, that's how you walk up to your dragon" I'm like....well...Targarians have been brought up WITH dragons. As you see, Rhaneras boys were playing with the dragon babies. It's a bit different for someone who's not use to being so close. Let alone try to claim one.
Okay so I’ve seen book readers say they are both Valaryion, Corlys sons. I’m guessing the chosen rider dyes his hair. So yes he smelt his blood. Apparently book readers are saying that the valaryions are also dragon riders more so from old Valayria they have dragon rider blood too. But possibly when they fled to Westeros they became more seaman. I am unsure though. The Kiss seems to have every viewer and reactor by surprise. Both actors said it was meant to be a hug but felt the moment 🤷🏿♀️
The book readers seem to be confused about Velaryons riding dragons some are arguing yes and others no so I don't know what the truth is!!!
@@DukeJimbob This is why I've long since stopped caring what the book people say. It's all unreliable narration anyway. As far as I'm concerned what happens in the show is what actually happened since we're seeing it from the actual characters perspectives and not some random historians account (that could be false or embellished).
@@viktorstagnetti7491 yes they seem to not realize the show is what actually happened
Is that witch the lost daughter of Peter Steele from Type O' Negative???
That big , pinky ring , on the possible half blood in the pub. He looks at it, did he touch it? It's flashing around. It's out in front when he's holding his cup.
Daemon did cry when they lost the baby girl
Addam is his previous rider's half brother, so even if only a small amount of Targaryen blood, I think he will sense a similarity to Laenor in him?
I don't know why youd think itd be Alyn with Sea smoke. Alyn is, as Baela said in the previous episode that she is not, "salt & sea". Baela is a dragon rider, not a sailor. Alyn is CLEARLY a sailor. Addam is the only choice for Seasmoke.
In the future Aerys was the mad king, Danarys’ father
Lickspittle is their version of hawk tuah
Answer is so right, I'm taking that risk 100%. I want that fucking dragon to ride lmao