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We brought in a Catholic and an Atheist to meet and talk about their supposed labels through different activities.
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Coming out as an atheist in the Philippines is almost unheard of. Filipinos are very religious people, but it bothers me that most people think that having no religion means I worship the devil or I'm just going through a bad time in my life.
Having no religion is an option. I respect other people's belief, but why can't they respect mine? It's very frustrating.
Not being a theist cannot be an option when a god is observed and proven to be real.
Theists claim a god or gods are real, theists need to present their gods as proof because we do not observe gods existing on multiple occasions... in fact, on none.
Totoo.
I told a lady who was trying to get me to attend their church that I do not have a religion and do not intend to join any and she said, "It's okay. God loves everyone including you."
They don't understand. 😁
because religious people can be the most judgmental people on the planet. whenever you go against the status quo, they will attack you.
they're only good Catholics/Christians whenever its convenient for them... for example:
a lot of Religious nut jobs oppose same sex marriage saying its against God's law.... but then turn around and cheat on their wives with other women (which is also against God's law)
most religious folks are hypocrites.
Im sorry to hear that, first of all they as an adult shouldn't be like that and judge people like that.
"You don’t need religion to have morals. If you can’t determine right from wrong then you lack empathy, not religion."
religion is one of the guides to be moral.
@@Astroboy9586 so is values education
u mean the book full of injustice, murders and incest? Sounds legit
Mac Yanez
@@Astroboy9586 Religion caused more death in the history of mankind.
And this kids, is how I met your mother.
Omggggg AHAHAHAHHAA rooting for them huhu!!!
Hahah instant relation
Lol season 9 na ako skl
I literally just watched funny compilations of HIMYM before coming here.
Your comment made me laugh so much.
Good one
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According to Pope Francis himself "It is better to be an Atheist rather than a devoted Catholic who judges people who not believe in God." An open conversation with an open mind and having respect. The world will be a better place.
even catholic is wrong too they added, lessen and reversed the teachings in in Bible.
Want to stop being Atheist/Devils? Search in yt angels singing.
@@salumtummundi9462 get lost , respect someone's beliefs , Don't force ur beliefs down our throats , angels singing ? Sana ol may record studio sa langit :)
Atheists are right that they are the product of mindless unguided natural processes, then they have given a strong reason to doubt the reliability of human cognitive faculties. And therefore inevitably to doubt the validity of any belief that they produce including their atheism. And their beliefs in naturalism would therefore appear to be at war with each other, in a conflict that is nothing to do with “God”
That's true, but no one's perfect you know what I mean?
This is the smartest comment section of a Filipino content on youtube.
I agree..... maraming mayroong mga valid points at masasabi mo talagang may alam sila sa topic, open-minded sila, at rinerespeto nila paniniwala ng iba... which is good 😁
AGREE!
Majority of people who belong to both parties should take this video seriously. cancerous kase kapag religion vs atheism and other beliefs eh.
ever.
AGREED!
The hard thing being an atheist and living with Catholic parents is that they make religion a chore.
Sorry to hear about that, when religion becomes just a chore that is imposed on people, then it loses its real essence. :(
Im an atheist, but i dont mind going to church since it still means a lot for my mother. I used to see it as a chore, but then i just used mass time for more constructive things like:
- planning what to do for work this coming week
- remembering what needs to be bought, paid etc.
- listen to the priest. I treat this more like "story time"
- admire architecture, if im in a church ive never been to before
- or make faces at the kid who just stares at you
It's all fun and games until you're sick and look for God
@@diegoveloso3rd - listen to the priest. I treat this more like "story time"
thats what i do. you can still learn wisdom from the sermons.
What makes you a non beliver. Pardon my curiosity.
"Just because we're different doesn't mean we have to be in conflict with each other."
And that's the problem with people, not just in religion pero sa buhay in general. We want to impose our beliefs and kept on arguing na ito dapat ang sundin and ito ang tama...
Pero nakakalimutan natin na rumespeto, sa tao at sa kung ano mang pinaniniwalaan niya. If yun yung pinaniniwalaan niya, let it be. 👍🏻
the 2 comments above me is a perfect example of 'the problem'
Ang problema kasi sa mga religion is nasa doctrina nila na pag hindi ka naniwala about this certain God is mapupunta ka sa impyerno at magdudusa ka, kaya iinsist talaga nila sayo na maniwala ka 👎
But what if it hurts you?
You have not been to EDSA then.
Same to some atheist, care more about the person and less about their beliefs. Not all but some atheist are converting Christians to atheism
Intellectual filipinos? Having a fruitful conversation? Sign me up jubilee philippines
Lol of course there are I was obviously exaggerating.
@None of your Business that's more of your problem sweetie, you must be fun at parties!
I absolutely do not give a single fuck about the things that you don't like, have a nice day!😇
Whatever helps you sleep at night, intellectual filipino😇
Same! It's uncommon to see these kinds of Filipino out there but good thing they exist.
Being an atheist is the same as being gay in the Philippines. It is very hard to come out especially to your parents who are devoted.
My mom is religious but when I asked her what is the core reason god created human. She never tried to persuade me to attend church ever again.
yea
Baryonic Matter i agree
Baryonic Matter coming out as an athiest doesn’t mean freedom, it means forcing you more and more into the religion.... :/
i agree
imagine an athiest na tumutulong na wlang nag didikta sa kanya na libro at teachings? that for me is genuine morality and humanity.
you have been saved through FAITH not your own doing, it is the gift of God, not a result of works,
So how do you know that something is moral or not if you don't have a moral standard (God) to compare too?
@@joperez9229 paano mo nalaman that god exist, there are thousands of gods, which god?
@@joperez9229 morality from (god )based on religion: punishment for breaking the Sabbath, death is punishment for gays, women has no rights, death is the punishment for the apostates, slavery is allowed, stoned to death is the punishment for adultery etc. Do u think this is "absolute morality"? I don't think so, I think this is an absolute stupidity.
I rather have a morality that came from SECULAR MORAL PHILOSOPHY and RATIONAL DISCUSSION. Thought-out, reasoned, argued, discussed.
@@yumikikyu6027 Hi Yumi! Here are my reasons why I believe there is a God; 1.because there is order and design in our universe. 2.There is objective morality. 3. Jesus and His Church. Now, I know there are a lot of "gods" but I'm a Catholic so I believe in the Holy Trinity.
this comment section has more braincells then the entire fb community
Louder!Most Filipinos really don't address problems, sometimes fb reactors just laugh on it. That's why i prefer CZcams community more
I mean, that's a low bar to surpass
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We can disagree with each other without being disagreeable to one another.
Yeah, care more about the people and less on their beliefs
Can I ask you something? Can a people become a nation again after having been dispersed in different parts of the world for more than two thousand years? And in the countries where they were exiled, they were the minority and were heavily persecuted. They were not allowed to secure jobs and were often expelled from their lands..
And throughout the ages, kings, queens, political and religious leaders tried to annihilate them...do you think they could survive as a people?
Could they become a nation again and become a powerful force in the region shortly after they reestablish themselves in the land of their forefathers? And as they tried to rebuild their tiny country, they have to survive the attacks of the neighboring nations that have more well-established armies?
Considering they are a small country, with no army at that time, as small as New Jersey with the land mostly dessert, surrounded by enemies who attack them from all sides
--- and with hardly any natural resources that even Mark Twain in his diary said that even a cactus was having a hard time to grow in this arid, bone dry and dessicated land ? Will they survive? What do you think?
@@mikeygarcia8271 I think you should shut up
Filipinos are religious but I think only 2-5% reads the bible.
Because if you'll read and understand it from Alpha to Omega you'll become an atheist 😉
You mean book
cause they are just 'religious' karamihan sa kanila relihiyoso lang ginagawa at sinusunod lang nila ang standards sa religion nila, may mga religion na di naman gumagamit ng bible at ang gumagamit lang ng bible sa kanila ay ung nagpipreach. being religious is different from being a Christian.
@@charlynl1361 Yup, religious just means they're believers
Haha i agree!
So far, this is the most friendly debate I've ever watched.
It isn't a debate. It's just a conversation of two open minded people presenting two different perspective.
This is a colab
That's why it use (and) not (vs) they meant to share their opinion not pushing their opinion to one another
debate?? Not even close 🤣🤣🤣
No debate happened.
@@maxpeinzindelvallemoon2152 nadale mo sir!
I had been in a relationship wherein my partner's really religious. Everytime I did something wrong, he'll utter a lot of bible verses, in which doesn't truly help me. I tried to apply it into my life but it isn't working. One day, I've talked to him and this is what I exactly told him; "Sorry ____, but those bible verses wouldn't help me to change my life. And please stop convincing me to convert into your religion. Because for me, my relationship with God matters the most. As long as I can talk to Him, my faith is still there. I don't have to perform any activities that will "certify" me as a Catholic.. At the end of day, it's just me and God."
Sadly, we broke up...
Those bible verse are word of God. Changing life is a proccess it takes years dont force yoursrlf. Word of God is just our guide
Well its a bit over the top when he keeps on reciting verses .and if he didn't understand u wen you sat him down and told him that faith is u and god alone then maybe it was for the best that u guys ended it.
Its really hard to compliment with someone if both of you have different values or belief in life. It takes effort to truly respect each other without involving your beliefs and faith.
@@bluebubbles2735 how did you know it is the ACTUAL word of god?
Break na kayo ni Deib Lohr?
This is what people needs to learn..how to converse properly without cursing and insulting other people cause they have a different beliefs or religion..in short we need "respect".. i hope the time would come that this world would be full of happiness and respect
My ex boyfriend was an atheist and I am a Catholic. He was so kind, loving, sweet and respectful. Sometimes we talked about my faith and how much I love God, he just listens and never judge. This video is really an eye-opener. Kudos to the team who created this.
Bakit kayo nag hiwalay?
Tell us more haha
Akalain mo yon. Sweet, kind loving ex. mo pero kong iisipin galing sa utos ng Dios yon. Haha d alam ng atheists yon. 😂
@@johnpauldayaobondoc trait nga po pero nasa bible din yon at utos yon na mismo ang Dios nagsabi. Katulad ng love your parents. Atheist pero nasusunod naman ang nasa bible.
@@maryjoysolon657 bago pa nagkabible existent na yung traits na yun. nature na ng tao at Hindi utos ng kung Sino man.
A good character is more important than having a religion.
Exactly
Having Jesus >
Having good character don't save souls
In a place that God doesn’t exist. Yes. But unfortunately there is more evidence and proof that God does exist.
@@munalemj I am quite curious to your "evidences" of god. Most of them have been debunked as it was riddled with fallacious statements and interpretation of the matter.
I'm a Catholic and I respect people don't believe God. People have choice to have their own beliefs also I love you guys no matter what.
slay frrr
likewise ❤️
Pero walang patunay na totoo ang Diyos. Huwag mo sakin sabihin ang "HUAAWAAHAHAHA edi pano ka ngayon nandito sinong gumawa sayo huuuhhhwaaahhhahahah"
Oo merong mga bagay at buhay. Hindi ko alam kung pano nagkaron o kung may gumawa. Pero sigurado ako na hindi totoo ang diyos. Ang bibliya ay gawa lang ng tao pati ang mga diyos.
Maniniwala ka kay Magellan na nagdala satin niyan. Dati hindi wala tayong alam sa diyos na yan. Gaya lang din yan ng mga diyos-diyosan na sinamba ng mga ninuno natin.
Gaya nga ng sabi ko walang patunay at gawa lang ng mga tao ng mahabang panahon. Kaya kung mapapansin mo kumakalat lang sa pamamagitan ng salita.
OMG, this is the most atheist-friendly place in the internet for a Filipino. I am just so happy that I have a place to express now.
Sana nga ma-normalize na ang non-belief sa Pilipinas. It's an option many wanted to choose but did not know it existed.
hehe scripted yan. in reality, madaming judgmental na religious at pa cool na atheist.
I somehow agree. Most likely, they are just holding it up trying not to loose cool, but deep down inside they are making judgements about each other. 🙂
Atheist ka pero pangalan mo christian
@@sakmaestro5575 ngi
It's funny how i go to a catholic school yet im an atheist..
OMG SAME😂😂😂
Same to my friend from school, I really respect her beliefs tho
I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE
I thought the same thing too when I was a kid! Though I wasn't an atheist then. But it's not like there's a school in the first place that's not religious. Plus I didn't get a say to which school I can go to anyway.
Because its not depends on environment, school or etc. Accepting Him starts to heart
catholic:
atheists:
everybody: should treat people with kindness
Uy TPWK harry or 1d fan ka ba? sorry sa tanong ko ah
@@louisratatoulielinson oo eh 😅 love them since '10 💕
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Iconic Loui same same, love all of their individual music ❣️
Directioners kapit Lang tayo babalik 1D
I believe in God but I adore people who doesn’t have God but chooses to be good individual.I like this channel. I have watched most of your videos and I never skip ads 😂 To give back in simple way.
we dont need a god nor a book to be good individual, if you can't be a decent human being without belief on your god it just mean that you were never good (also good is a very general word, "good" can be perceived differently by other people base on others perception/perspective.
First of all there's LAW, second ETHICS is also a book to guide us within our morality and lastly, SENSE OF MORALITY can be build (as early as 2 years old) even before you are introduced to any religion.
Godbless to you since you're a Christian.
Hunny, you don't need to believe in God to be a good person. And it doesn't mean that someone doesn't believe in God they're already a bad person
Sorry but that's not how things work.
If you want a single proof that will prove that God exists..look no further - His people, the Jews. They still exist when all their enemies, great warriors of ancient civilizations, no longer exist. The Roman empire, the Greeks, Egypt, the Philistines... where are they now? Powerful armies have come and go but the Jews remain no matter how many times they have been surrounded by enemies all throughout history-- wanting to annihilate and slaughter them. But the Jews still exist and their military might is in full display for the world to see. The God of Israel is ever faithful. He never abandons His people for He promised to preserve them until the end of days. Here is the speech that will make you think twice before you turn your back on God.
Prime Minister Netanyahu Speech
The Jews Are Proof that God exist
Only 70 years ago! The Jews were taken to slaughter like sheep.
🔵 60 years ago!
🔵 No country. No Army.
Seven Arab countries declared war on the small Jewish state, only a few hours after its creation!
🔵 we were 650,000 Jews against the many millions in the Arab world!
There was no strong IDF(Israel Defense Forces).
No powerful air force to save us but only brave Jewish people with nowhere else to go.
🔵Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia all attacked at the same time.
🔵the country that the United Nations gave us was a 65 % desert.
🔵 35 years ago! We fought the three most Powerful armies in the middle east, and we swept them in six days.
We fought against various coalitions of Arab countries, which had modern armies and many Soviet weapons, and we have always beaten them!
Today we have:
🔵 a State (Country)
🔵 an Army,
🔵 a Powerful Air Force,
🔵 A State-of-the-Art Economy with exports worth billions of dollars.
🔵 Intel - Microsoft - IBM & many high-tech companies develop cutting edge products in Israel
🔵 our doctors receive awards for medical research.
🔵 we make the desert bloom, and sell oranges, flowers and vegetables all over the world.
🔵 Israel has sent its own satellites into space!
🔵 three satellites at the same time!
🔵 We are proud to be at the same rank as:
🔵 The United States, which has 250 million inhabitants,
🔵 Russia, which has 200 million inhabitants,
🔵 China, which has 1.3 billion inhabitants;
🔵 Europeans - France, Great Britain, Germany - with 350 million inhabitants.
🔵 the only countries in the world to send objects into space!
🔵 and say that only 60 years ago,
🔵 we were led, ashamed and hopeless, to slaughter!
🔵 we have experienced the smoking ruins of Europe,
🔵 we have won our wars here in Israel with less than nothing
🔵 we built our little "Empire" from nothing.
Who's Hamas to scare us?
🔴 to terrify us?
You make us laugh!
🔴 Passover was celebrated;
Let's not forget what Passover is:
🔴 we survived Pharaoh,
🔴 we survived the Greeks,
🔴 we survived the Romans,
🔴 we survived the inquisition in Spain,
🔴 we have the pogroms in Russia,
🔴 we survived Hitler,
🔴 we survived the Germans,
🔴 we survived the Holocaust,
🔴 we survived the armies of seven Arab countries,
🔴 we survived Saddam.
🔴 we will survive the enemies present
Think of any time in human history ⚠
Think about it, for us, the Jewish people,
🔷 the situation has never been better!
🔷 then let's face the world,
Let us remember:
🔶 all nations, empires or cultures
🔶 who once tried to destroy us,
🔶 no longer exist today - while we still live!
🔶 Egypt?
🔶 Babylon?
🔶 the Greeks?
🔶 Alexander of Macedonia?
🔶 The Romans? (does anyone still speak Latin these days? )
🔶 The Third Reich?
And look at us
🔵 The slaves of Egypt,
🔵 The People of Moses
🔵 The Nation of the Bible,
🔵 We are still here,
And Hebrew is still the official language of the State of Israel today:
🚩 from the time of the Bible and now!
🚩 Arabs don't know yet,
🚩 but they will learn that there is a God.
🚩 as long as we keep our identity, we are forever.
Some claim our morale is low.
🔵 so what?
Only because we mourn our deaths while our enemies rejoice in the blood shed & war.
🔵 that is why we will win, in the end.
The God of Israel created the Heaven's and the Earth.
The Guardian of Israel never slumbers or sleep! The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
He is a very good listener and a very good talker. Even though he know many things about the faith he still stay calmed.
Or that's what he wants to make you think he is. See the faces he makes when listening? Def. Not normal, the number of nods and pouty lips is what we call comic act, or an act where a person overdramaticized a projection of what he wants you to think he is doing, commonly nagmemake face sila ng parang sa mga bata?. He is not listening, he is just waiting for his chance to talk.
#Psychology
@@happylife5071 that's also what the woman in the video do. Look at her body actions and and projections. Both of them are being calm, and have different stances and beliefs yet, they manage to create an open argument. (Argumentation is a set of claims that a person puts forward to persuade readers or audiences. People often misuse argumentation as negative)
@@happylife5071 Tol mag relax relax ka muna overthinking lang yan HAHAHA
@@happylife5071 that's too conclusive.
When atheist says: “care more about the person less more on their beliefs” damn pls felt it!
True. Atheists seem to care more about people's feelings rather than religious ones cuz religious ones just tell "just be positive". While atheists will really listen to the problems.
@@jamestudtud it depends on the person..
@@jamestudtud it depends on us if we help.. It doesnt matter because were religious.
But we have a heart to share the love to others..and we are ready to face our fears...
@@jamestudtud not all athiest it depends on the person
We are all diffrent...
Believers (true believers, unlike the guy representing theists here) cares about the person and their eternity. ☺️
Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. People should be free to choose not to have a religion.
Here is a link to a video of Albert Einstein vehemently denying that he is an atheist. czcams.com/video/UD7YrsG8dVg/video.html
@@garcilia4984 with all due respect, why did you reply that to this comment? How are they related?
@@garcilia4984 okay then?
Because God does'nt give religion... Its manmade, all He wants is Relation not religion
@@bluebubbles2735 true. Even some people believe in God but don't follow religion
All I can see in the whole video was RESPECT. Mutual respect between two people who have different views in life. No judgment. Just ears who are ready to listen and to understand. I love this channels content. 👍🏻
i'm a catholic teenager 16M . i really appreciate this conversation. I still have a lot to discover about my faith, and it's a good journey as long as we have good intentions for one another even if we have different beliefs. I believe that God wants us to be good for each other generally.
16male? Hahahaha ginagawa mo dito tols? Ako 16Male din Sobra naguguluhan sa beliefs and practices and in the need of help Haha
Read the bible to understand what Christian is truly is. ❤️
@@spotlight.effect Nasa critical na panahon ng paglaki tayo ngayon para mabuo mga beliefs naten and I think magcocontinue toh hanggang sa pagtanda naten and having our own different ways of believing something is fine in it's own way. Kaya goodluck & Godbless sayo boss, I suggest you make time for yourself asking question on how you see things and what you believe in, what values, practices, you think you should hold and embody.
@@johnclemmy7909 hanapin mo podcast ni Atheist Joy PH. Dati may channel siya sa CZcams. Magaling siya magexplain and mas maiintindihan mo yung side ng mga non-believers.
@@johnclemmy7909 Try nyo po makinig kay Dr Frank turek "I dont have enough faith to be an atheist" ng cross examined sa youtube tsaka sa mga debate nya laban sa mga knowledgeable atheist sa US para mapakinggan nyo po ang both sides. God Bless ⛪❤🇵🇭
Shout outs to my atheist, agnostic, and religious people!
It's ok to not believe in God or not, just respect each other and everything's all right.
Word. 👍👍👍
True simple as dat
Yeeeesss!!! Humanist here!
Yeah its cool as long as you are living in this world
sana ganto lahat ng tao😢
This should be the way! Hope everyone is like them. An open minded Catholic, and an open minded Atheist.
Most of the atheist I know is open minded
Atheists usually are open-minded.
When you're atheist you are likely to be more open minded.
My circle are all atheist and believe me. Walang toxic, open-minded lahat at magaan sa pakiramdam..
I agree.
Now, this is a mature conversation.
Reasons why I became an atheist:
1. Religion used as an agenda: Historically we know that religion is used in favor of some people's agenda whether it's a state, a race and etc. If people have forgotten, then I'd like to remind that most major religions now, didn't spread accidentally, most of it was used by force (remember the colonial times).
2. God as false hope: We always interpret things the way we'd like to see it. Good things happening to you? it's God's blessings. Bad things happening to you? That's just God testing you. We interpret things rather than seeing situations as they are. It's an unfair world and we just have to accept it.
3. Religion diminishes your own personal thinking: If you follow a religion, you should follow everything that's being told upon you, if you don't then you're not 100% of that religion and that you are of another label or sect. Protestantism was birthed from a differing take on Christianity from the Catholic Church. If you believe in a personal God and don't subscribe to a religion, then that's you finding hope in a God in hopeless situations.
Exactly! That's why I am proud to have no religion. Call me a devil. IDGAF
I love to #QuestionEverything. I am always curious. I don't stop learning. That's why I am now free from having a religion.
Man no.1 is very prevalent especially in our history. Spaniards enforcing Christianity on every single citizen and if they don’t comply they get brutally murdered, tortured , kicked out of their homes and etc I still don’t see why people think Christianity is a gift if it forced down our throats without our consent.
Don't forget how you should give God all the credits even though it's all you. People would try to force me to thanking God for providing myself a roof above my head, but I DID IT all by myself because of my hardwork. If God truly was there, He would've saved me the sweat, blood and tears.
It's also unfair. A lot of people suffered from poverty all their life, does that mean God was testing them their entire life? How unfair is that?
did you read a whole bible?
I envy people who still believes in "God", its just so easy to submit all the problems/hardships to "Him" but i just cant just ignore reality or facts about life.
They could not bear the responsibility of awareness, choosing comfort over the other knowledges.
You can believe, be aware, think about facts all at the same time. And it's not about just submitting, it's also about letting Him give us strength and guidance to overcome problems and hardships that you're referring to.
@@jarllim4713 God is our comfort.
@@krishnaantonettemartinez1927 That's what I just said.
@@krishnaantonettemartinez1927 Indeed, yet how strange it is that God is centered around the fact that it caters to our existence than any other life form. I mean how many gods are there.
“Faith is beautiful”
This means alot specially coming from an Atheist.
Grisette Directo yep you are right. But in this context, it is aboit religion ☺️
@@grisettedirecto3560 "beautifully destructive" (in a sadistic tone)
Beautiful in some ways, and also scary in some ways
Or dangerously beautiful? XD
"Atheism is a positive affirmation of a man's ability to think for himself, to do for himself and to find answers in his own problems"
Kudos walang lumabas na "according to the bible"
What I like about this video is that, they are so professional with each other. No harm or personal attacks, I just love it
Ralph Darryl you can tell by the guy’s body language he was trying to dominate, but at least in the end he respected the girl.
@@k.batayola9237 Oops, sorry if it looked that way. Galawgaw lang po talaga body language ko :)
Bernz O. Caasi - Catholic Revert & Speaker body language tells a lot. it’s okay kudos bc you’re being respectful to other people’s pov.
Maturity is a need talaga
because the format was never meant to be a debate. just a friendly sharing of perspectives.
Like mo to kung Atheist ka pero ndi mo masabi dahil sa Family and Social Pressures..
Im with you..
i cant even tell my wife.. sigh!
True
Kapag sinabi mo kasi na atheist ka, parang napakasama mo na. Religious people are the first one to judge you,even you dont speak anything about their belief.
@@edwinparapara4743 indeed
hi, I'm scared
I'm a Christian and i was an atheist, and i respect them.
👍🏼
Oh you mean, found the truth then got brainwashed again. Ok.
@@princessjazzmine496 HAHAHA yati ug wa ka kareply d nako ni makita HAHAHA
This is why we should develop a thinking or mentality to respect and treat each other with kindness and not base it on any religion.
Respect and kindness is the best religion
I can relate to her when she said she was down and her catholic friends tried to comfort her but then they're using God and it didn't help her enough.
P. S. I am Catholic.
Random Person it didnt help? Really? Maybe that person whom they comforted has no faith at all thats why it has no effect. Simple.
@@jamessumaljag5271 if you are depressed and super super desperate for help, having someone just say "just pray to god" and consider it help is pretty pretty shitty
K Cassandra why did you say so? :)) Is there something wrong for us Christians to say, ‘We will pray for you or Pray to God?
How about you, does being atheist or atheism makes you a good person? Do you consider yourself as a perfect person?
I will wait for your answer.
K Cassandra ok for example I really need your help Ms Cassandra. I am in desperately need financially. Would u be willing to help me?
In most cases of all the people that asked for ur help financially, does all of them nabigyan mo ng tulong?
I will wait for ur answer..
@@jamessumaljag5271 in a non-believer's perspective, getting advised with religious stuff is pretty worthless.
When people open their minds & have a conversation where both listens and exchange ideas it is beautiful ❤️
:)
I agree!
I was once an atheist like her and I can relate to a lot of what she feels about God. Although, now that I have found my way in Paganism and found my spiritual calling, I still wouldn't trade my experience in atheism because it has opened my mind to more than just one God and the bible.
Also, she's a lovely lady as far as I can tell so don't judge her 😊, she never raised her voice in this video so unlike many Christians I have talked to as an atheist, lovely lady indeed 😌
Sorry if I say this but my church says that Pagano ay di daw maliligtas
At palihim Kung sinumbat eh what the heck puro Kayo tumitingin sa Mali napaka religious kasi ng church namin minsan gusto ko nang umalis pero di ko kaya kasi nasa auntie ako nakatira pero I've decided that if I finish my college I will quit Iglesia Ni Cristo napaka religious kasi like super Homophobic
@@tentcentsofcinnabar Religions like those are toxic.
I was an atheist because I hated that toxic mindset religion enforces, and when I found paganism I learned that it is full of people who are not judgmental and just want a community for people who are different.
I'm happy to be a Pagan even if this country sees me as a demon (Which is highly misunderstood by Christians, demons aren't a inherently bad if you study about them outside of Christianity)
@@indigo-streak9912 how can I convert to Atheist
@@tentcentsofcinnabar you don't. You just leave your religion and call yourself an atheist.
It's that simple.
@@indigo-streak9912 ahh I guess I'm an atheist now
I love how they showed respect to each other, and only giving their own opinions
America: Jubilee
Philippines: Rec create
P.S. you guys make great content.
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Here is a link of a video of Albert Einstein vehemently denying that he is an atheist. czcams.com/video/UD7YrsG8dVg/video.html
exactly my point
11:47 "I don't care what you believe in. As long as you're a good person -- as long as you treat other people right" 💯
dionysus gay #ForTheGays well the Bible say otherwise that none of us is good but god
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Nothing you can do can save you
Ephesians 2:8
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
Our beliefs don't make us better people. Our actions make us better people.
there you go, that is.
Definitely, that's why we need religion and most importantly God, to guide us to become better people
My respects to the Christian guy for a peaceful debate. He's beyond my expectations of a stereotypical one.
"Just because we are different doesn't mean we should be in conflict with each other."
As a Christian who has a brother who is an Atheist, I really appreciate this video :) Love, acceptance, and understanding for all ❤️
So, an atheist brother does not make you question your theism?
@@evanarada1275 Nope :)
@@yansdemesa5547
Did you observe your claimed-yet-unproven god actually existing?
At respeto nalang sa pananaw nila (religolious people). Sila yun eh. :) Love and respect.
@@evanarada1275 Yes, for me, He exists. :)
Seeing a fellow filipino atheist is super rare ,this kind of dialogue even more so.Cheers to more of this series
@CZcams Watcher yeah..ive seen the atheist community online. In person,not so much cuz im also in that closet
Many filipino atheist are just scared to come out in public
4 of my previous schoolmates are atheists, met two more in my current class, another on a recent student press conference, and a lot more online. Atheism is actually that common. Just that, talking about it is considered taboo while living in a very theist country.
Sama ka sa atheist republic manila consulate sa facebook. May atheist republic sa facebook sa buong mundo pero mayroon by country/state/province din. Ako kasali ako sa atheist republic angeles consulate (pampanga pa to). Meron ding PATAS(Philippine Atheism, Agnosticism, and Secularism) sa pinas din basehan nun. Magugulat ka dumadami nadin tayo. Base sa statistics, isa tayo sa mga pinakamalaking rate ng increase in population. Lalo na sa kabataan dahil available na ang impormasyon sakanila through internet.
No it's not hard to find Pinoy atheists. What's hard is to get them reveal themselves, and mostly the Athiest who proudly reveals themselves are sadly the jerks. The few bad apples.
"...You need to care more about the person and less more about their beliefs." ❤
-Chris
Kulang yung 17 mins 16 secs sa ganitong topic. Can we expect more? Lol
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Chris and I are game for a part 2 haha!
@@unboxingcatholicism i mean there's alot of topic that can be branch out from it. Like Catholic stand for homosexuality, pre marital sex, contraceptives and such. Want more!
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Christelle took the words out of my mouth about believing in the goodness of people. Atheists and christians actually have more in common than we really think
truee both have good intentions for humanity, to help and serve the needy
True, we christians do believe that religion is made by the enemy, dahil nga dinivide neto ang beliefs ng tao sa Diyos naten.
By definition, you are a humanist.
(Not labelling here, but feel free to be offended. )
i love how they're not arguing and are just genuinely trying to understand each other's beliefs and respecting them too
This video is so wholesome. Neither turned down what what the other believes. This is the kind of debate we all need.
the girl seems very smart base on how she talks but all in all both are very mature and open,love this
I love that "what we need is not revolution but an honest conversation."
Yes, we really need that :)
I'm a seminarian studying theology right now. I see this video very mind-opening. The last words especially about grounding everything on Human relationships and love really got me. I guess we can all start with that. Never force your belief on someone. Nice Job RecCreate.
No, Jesus never told us to force our belief on anyone..but we are comamanded to share God's words with others. Maybe the next time you talk to an atheist...you can ask them this.. Can a people become a nation again after having been dispersed in different parts of the world for more than two thousand years? And in the countries where they were exiled, they were the minority and were heavily persecuted. They were not allowed to secure jobs and were often expelled from their lands..
And throughout the ages, kings, queens, political and religious leaders tried to annihilate them...do you think they could survive as a people?
Could they become a nation again and become a powerful force in the region shortly after they reestablish themselves in the land of their forefathers? And as they tried to rebuild their tiny country, they have to survive the attacks of the neighboring nations that have more well-established armies?
Considering they are a small country, with no army at that time, as small as New Jersey with the land mostly dessert, surrounded by enemies who attack them from all sides
--- and with hardly any natural resources that even Mark Twain in his diary said that even a cactus was having a hard time to grow in this arid, bone dry and dessicated land ? Will they survive? What do you think?
I have an atheist friends, yet they're so pure, kind, and respectful. I've learned when I'm talking with them and they've learned also while talking to me
I think yung nakakasira lang sa samahan talaga is yung pagiisip na may isa na nakakalamang at may alam sa lahat without even trying to understand and respect the other perspectives.
I was always the "Anti Christ" every time I try to talk about my beliefs as an Atheist. I can't blame people since in the Philippines, even public schools promote religion.
Yes, one time I was talking with someone when I have an appointment in a Psychiatrist. I told this person that I'm atheist and I don't believe in God, he already assumed that I'm "Anti Christ" so it's kind of awkward to explain lol
@@iantarrayo3088 I was once told by an acquaintance "Kaya pala mukha kang devil worshiper" when she found out about it. I tried to explain it to her but she's so fixated on her weird assumptions about Atheism. After that senseless conversation I told myself "Now I know how cute Devil Worshipers are" 🤣 Ako nalang nag adjust nakakaawa naman siya eh
@@Danalf ganyan mga yan mga ignoranting Catholics people
@@Danalf Same, nag adjust nalang din nalang din ako ehhh
@@Danalf Even tho hndi ka naniniwala same sa mga demonyo taeng yan 🤣
I love the fact that she asked about the sexual abuse case in the catholic church
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
That's something that Catholics should never deny.
@@unboxingcatholicism they couldnt to begin with lmao
pero pag ang mga clowns e napag alamang pedo tyak ang circus ay mawawala.
yeah ang mali doon eh yung mismong mga taong namamahala doon like ng mga pari, obispo na nagtatago ng mga may kaso sa bakuran nla which is di yun gus2 ng Diyos
I love how they are so calm, open-minded, and respectful. I like the guy, he listens to what she's saying with an open mind cause most people I know doesn't really respect whether someone chose to be an atheist. Most people would force their beliefs on others and would use Bible verses here and there especially on debates (at school). I like the both of them, wish everyone I know has this kind of mindset.
"just because were different doesnt mean doesnt mean that we have to be in conflict with each other" 👏🏻
some 'religious' people aren't 'religious' when they come out the church. just saying, no hates.
Ghandi said: I like your Christ but i don't like your Christans. They are so much not like Christ.
Some atheists dont believe in morals too..and they are the ones that will think killing ppl is right
Religion = Culture
Faith = Relationship
That's what our Pastor preaches hahaha
This!
Yep
@Meow Robin Well, you have a point there. Yep.
I agree. Being religous doesn't mean you have a relationship with God..
Loving Him with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your strength, loving your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.
The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
"if you burn all of the religious books, it will not come back in the future but if you burn all of the science-related books, it will come back in the future. Why? Because if you conduct the same experiment you would get the same results"
~Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Idk about you guys but burning thousands of philosophies is gonna be a huge waste.
Try mo lods pakinggan sa youtube si Dr Frank turek "I dont have enough faith to be an atheist". Tsaka sa mga debate nya sa iba pang matatalinong atheist para mapakinggan nyo ang side ng Christianity at atheism..❤⛪🇵🇭
@@letter5330
Frank Turek? hilarious. 😆
@@terminusadquem6981 if you are a logical person and loves science you know nothingness can't create everything. If you have problem with Frank turek I would highly recommend: Cold Case Christianity by Warner Wallace, In six days by John Ashton or Undeniable by Douglas Axe.
the Bible also has plenty of prophecies that can be easily tracked in terms of what was said when and how and when did it become a reality. That also is part of good evidence to consider. Hope you study Science and Christianity seriously. God bless you. 🙏❤⛪🇵🇭
I liked it! Bitin nga lang. I wanted more. I wanted to hear more. Dig in to the juicy stuff. Challenge each other's belief. Up to the point of agreeing to disagree.
Good stuff!
Thanks for making the video.
I was raised as Catholic, but had a real personal relationship with our Lord Jesus at the age of 27. It’s not about a religion but a relationship with God. Let us start in what is common-love. 🥺💕
Only comment I'm finding💙
Religion - by definition IS "a relationship with god".
LoL a typical protestan, born again mindset bruh
Raised as Catholic but never knew its teaching and faith right? Btw personal relationship cannot be found in any pages of the Bible but Religion can. Catholic religion is the only christian religion that exists for the first 1500 years . until marthin luther, a Catholic monk who broke up with the Catholic church started building his own church and began to devide the Christianity. Now which one would you rather be? to a Christ founded Church or a Manmade church?
The moment you believed in Jesus Christ, you're already following christianity which is a religion.
I don't believe in VIRGIN BIRTH, TALKING SNAKES, PARTING SEA, NOAH'S ARK, LIVING DEAD ETC.
I believe in MORAL VALUES, ETHICS, KINDNESS AND HUMANITY.
Hi sa mga Atheist dyan. Be strong and hold on to that belief if it feels right and corresponds with logic and reality.
But the Bible is true. Jesus is true, He's real, and He's alive. I'm not arguing or fighting with you. Pero nangyari at katotohanan ang Bible. I'll include you guys to my prayers, na makilala niyo Siya. Jesus Bless You!
Bobo
@@derangedartist7740 you're pertaining to who po?
@@chaneluxy like what I mentioned, and I'm gonna repeat it again. Im not against your beliefs. Im trying to share the Gospel and I'm completely free to at least reply. I did not replied with a rude/offensive comment. I did not dragged your belief and insulted it. I did not showed evident hatred towards your belief. And I did not attacked you.
@@malchakamd.santiago3667 ahm its offensive that you reply a comment to an atheist, like, you'll pray for them to know jesus? so why comment here like that when you dont wanna get bashed?
Wow i love how they're both so comfortable talking to each other
It's quite wholesome seeing an atheist and a theist have that kind of conversation. Quite rare
like in japan they dont really bother about religion. but they are not against religion..
I don't have religion. I just believe in God❤
Curious. How do you picture your god and to which religion would you find your lifestyle more leaning/closer to?
Monotheism is the belief that there is only one God.
Last time tinanong ako ng guro kung ano ang religion ko tanong ko "eh wala akong religion maam pero-"
Bigla napatanong guro ko kung atheist ba ako at sabay pagkacurious ng mga kaklase ko. Sabi ko hindi naman ako atheist wala lang talaga akong religion at hindi rin ako bininyag noong sangol pa ako at anong meron don?
@asro toy pero naniniwala ka kay God or nagsisimba ka?
So sinong God mo ? jesus (inassume ko lang) ? Kung sya eh di christian ka which is a religion.
“You need to care about the person and less about their belief.” - a great saying right there!!!
As a Catholic who loves God, I have a friend who just decided to become atheist and I observed she is much happier now but at the same time her personality did not change.
I also do not try to convert anyone to atheism as I believe very few have the capacity to grasp the concept. You don't teach someone atheism, he or she has to find it him/herself.
Madali lang maging atheism pre lalo na kapag yung pinanghahawakan mo parang walang magandang ebidensya meron kasi talaga. Lalo na yung Quran ang daming miracles lalo na yung mga history at scientifc fact predicted 1400 years ago mga prophecies. Naging atheism din ako kasi I was born muslim naging atheist ako iniisip ko na wala lang yung diyos pero pag search ko about religion Yung Quran bakit ganun kung gawa gawa lang yun bakit 100% Correct about science and historical fact even prophecies walang mali
imho, it's easier to grasp the concept of atheism than faith / religion. If someone would take a hard look and forget for a moment what theyve been taught all their life. I suspect that for many, it's not that they can't grasp it, just that theyre not ready to sit with the idea and what it would mean for their egos and social identity.
Nonetheless, I went through my "atheism" phase & I wouldnt recommend it.
Hangang ngaun confused pa din ako sa dpat paniwalaaan. Pero mahal ko ang pagiging katoliko dati din akong naging sakristan nung teenager pa ako. Pero habang tumatanda ka sinusubok paniniwala mo sa diyos. Ginagamit na kase ang salitang diyos para sa corruption kahit dati pa. At di rin naten alam kung ang nakaimbento ba ng bible nilikha ito para manipulahin ang utak ng tao.
@@gaahagahaklanab8640 Yeah we need evidences pero wala talaga lalo na yung gospel talaga ni Jesus. Jesus language is Aramaic then yung bible niya is dapat Aramaic kaso wala kang makikitang Aramaic na bible ngayon. Greek ata yung earliest Gospel.
@@gaahagahaklanab8640 siguro kahit na anong religion pa yan may good arguments against..pero you have the power to embody the good things they instilled in you; ika nga nila dont focus on being a Catholic or Christian. The question is are you Christ-like? Are u a Muslim or are you Mohammed-like in your ways? Tendency kasi these days, people are too polarized. We either follow blindly or throw the baby with the bathwater. Think about this: 'Thou shall not kill' is a good commandment to live by regardless if priests molest children or not. Listen to your soul. Good luck!
Chris, Amerikano ako na marunong mag-Tagalog. Taga-US ako, lumaki ako bilang Mormon. Napakarelihiyoso ko noon-kung tutuusin, marunong ako Mag-Tagalog dahil Mormon Missionary ako dati. Pero ngayon Agnostic-Atheist ako. Mahirap laging ipaliwanag iyan. Lalung lalo bilang isang tao dito sa Pinas. Parang karamihan ay walang konsepto ng posibilidad na walang diyos o Walang buhay pagkatapos nito. I think, and just as I learned about myself growing up, is that we simply accept what we are taught. If we are taught about god, chances are we will just accept it. Lalung lalo pag sa kapaligiran natin it is just understood and accepted na May diyos...relihiyoso or Hindi.
I appreciate that people are opening up more about it dito sa Pilipinas. It is not right to just assume that everyone has the same beliefs and to push those beliefs, implicitly or explicitly onto others.
El Professor oh kahit mas secular. Sang-ayon ako na mahirap umunlad pag Masyadong dogmatic ang mga tao.
El Professor huh? Di ko nabura ang comment mo.
@@PutingPinoy uy agnostic atheist din po pala kayo tulad ko.😍
@@muntingbinibini3270, oo Kakampi! Darating ang punto na pag-uusapan ko rin sa channel ko Para mas mauunawaan ng iba ang ibig sabihin.
@@PutingPinoy yey aabangan ko po yan
After watching the "Jubilee" of Atheists and Christians Debate, this debate is the most friendly one yet.
I have no idea why this was recommended to me.
But here's my hot take: Debates about the divine and the unknowable are pointless. Its one of those things that priviledged folk concern themselves with, acting all high and mighty thinking they're living some sort of up-market lifestyle while the commonfolk are debating whether to save money or buy food for the family.
If someone wants to be religious, fine. Atheist? Fine. In the real world, no one cares.
I'm religious myself. You want to ask me questions about faith? I have about 6 years worth of religious education both under seminary and postulancy under my belt but this would be my response: Ask a priest. I don't have time for that nonsense when I could be spending that time doing what I want to do or something important.
true but i think aside from those people who have the time, those who are really questioning their beliefs can benefit from discussions about religion kasi they can develop a clear view on which kind of thing to believe on. pero ayun nga kung debates yea i think it's pointless to argue seriously kasi it can never be proven.
It's great intellectual discourse that explores the different perspectives that surround us.
Just because other people have more important and practical debates does not mean that superficial and philosophical arguments are invalid.
ALWAYS WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES BEFORE YOU DIVE DEEP INTO THE COMMENT SECTION
hahahahaha😂😂
And Gorilla Glass Goggles so that it will not easily damaged.
I guess, at the end of the day, establishing respect would be the most essential thing do so far.
best comment so far 😀
this is officially my favorite rec•create video
This channel deserves a lot of recognition.
let us Agnostics join, and we'll just sit there and say "owww okay okay ahhhhh oww"
Christopher Ian Reynaldo Agnostic here
I will tell you Bible is credible and its the word of truth. but science in astronomy and evolution discredit it para maging gnostics ka at maging atheists and iba.
HHahhaa pretty much what i can imagine as well haha
Christopher Ian Reynaldo bro you sounds so smart.. does atheism makes u a good person? Hmmm
@@jamessumaljag5271 Just in case you misinterpreted the concept of Agnosticism, Atheism is different from Agnosticism try to research about it. And nothing in this world will make you a good person, being good depends on a person's perspective. But for me, as long as you are not making anything against the law and you're not stepping on someone, you are a good person. Religions and Beliefs are just factors to make you as who you are. For me, life is about being humane.
i personallt believe in God, but i don’t really enjoy being in a religion. my opinion.
same
same. It's called Deism ☺️
Same
Gods are theists' hypothesis to how the universe and life came to be.
Lol same
Cradle Catholic here and found the fullness of Christ now.
These videos help grow my faith one day at a time.Praying for you; brothers & sisters.
If your into christian apologist try to listen in Cross examined in youtube they let atheist asked them questions about Christianity. And his scientific and philosophical presentation "I dont have enough faith to be an atheist" in their youtube channel . Hope our atheist or agnostic friends will hear our faith in Christ and not base christianity to people that says they are christians but really just Culturally christian and dont even follow Christ teachings.
I love these kind of conversation. They are such respectful to each other and understand both sides. This channel is so wholesome and the partners that they pick are so open to each other❤
the insight they're portying is RESPECT.
“We don’t need a revolution what we need is an honest conversation” YES YES YES
The catholic church need a revolution. The result of the last one were the protestant. But now it would be atheists.
We need Jesus Christ!
I teared up 🥺 I hope more people will think openly like this. Let's be inclusive.
Best conversation between A Catholic and an atheist. You two are admirable. One believes in God, the other believes in herself.
This is actually a decent episode. I love the discussion between these two understanding human beings. I want more of these episodes.
They should do an episode of Duterte dissenter meet a Duterte supporter
For those who are kind of confused on identifying their belief system:
Atheism - belief that there is no god
Agnosticism - can’t really say there is or there is no god ‘cause you can’t really know for sure. Is not equal to believing in a god but not in religion
Deism - belief in a god but not in religion; belief where there’s a god that created the universe but does not believe the supernatural abilities associated with them (e.g. controlling your fate, miraculous healing, etc.)
Actually no.
Atheism is the lack of belief in god.
Agnosticism is just lack of knowledge in a certain context. The word structure of agnostic has no religion within its context. Hence, agnostic people are still atheists. Agnostic atheist to be precise since those 2 terms are not mutually exclusive.
People may argue that Agnostic means god is not knowable. But that also means you are not actively believing in a god, basically you are still an atheist.
add panentheism, and pantheism
@@thomasmorato5098 Well said.
Yeah In Deism there is one flaw which that they have no choice to accept divine Providence.
This is an example of a healthy conversation.
I have a schoolmate, he's smart, cunning and handsome. Girls were easily attracted to him because he's a religious/godly type of person, always preaching bible verses to his classmates whenever someone does wrong but all of those innocent actions was just a show off. The truth is he's a competitive type of person, doesn't respect someone who's older than him inshort all of his classmates call her hypocrite because of his clownery actions.
"A GOOD CHARACTER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING A RELIGION"
True. pero di ibig sabihin masama ung religion niya. Nasa tao pa din po yan. Kung pano mo dadalin ang religion mo. Some do bad, some do good. Its up to each individual. 😊
@@korosensei3771 yes po pero parang yung dating kasi binabalat kayo nya lang yung pagiging godly person nya, ginagamit para mging mabait para sa tingin ng iba pero kapag nging close mo na sya umiiba na yung perspective nya sa mga bagay gusto nya lagi sya ang tama and ayaw nya nang any suggestion even though he does have a mistake. Sayang lang kasi😖
Uhm i think sa "doesn't respect someone who's older than him" i just wanna say na respect is for the people who deserves to be respected, kahit anong edad pa yan. There are people naman na di din nirerespeto ung nakababata sa kanila (i hope u wont get me wrong) pero kasi d sila kinocall out dahil para sa iba okay lang na maging disrespectful ung matanda sa bata at pag yung bata naman e un lng ung kinocall out, especially dito satin sa Pilipinas. I am not defending him but maybe he disrespected that specific adult because he was also disrespected? I think that respect goes both ways no matter what ur age is. Btw, i agree with what uve said🙌
@@jonnajeanborres9520 yes po pero yung case po kasi nya mas inuunahan nya yung mga nakakatanda and even tho he's wrong he's still insisting that he's right and will be always right, hoping po nagets nyo hirap po ksing i.explain sa comment mas maganda po sana if makilala nyo sya😁
@@michio7296 ohh okay i get it, no need to explain further. Nag disagree lang kasi ako na namention ung age differences which in fact wala talagang basehang edad ung tinatawag na respect. I hope he'll change. Im not a religious person but I'll say this, maybe the time will come that he'll eventually understand what those bible verses really means. Haha I'm not comfortable saying this kasi d ko ugaling magsabe ng ganyan kasi d din ako masyado naniniwala at madami din questions about sa religion ko😅🤣
Thank you Rec.create, you’re so good at putting a perfect people to a specific argument👏👏👏
I agree💯
it was barely an argument though, but kudos for putting these people in the same room.
*growing up as gay man (silahis) ang huling simba ko i think 10 years old pako (kasi bata palang ako alam kona na lalaki din gusto ko) kasi feeling ko hindi ako belong sa simbahan sasabihan ka na masusunog ka sa impyerno, kasalanan yang choice mo.. 24 nako now and since then hindi nako nagsisimba, dahil sa discrimination na natanggap ko since bata ako natuto ako na rumespeto sa kapwa tao dahil naranasan ko mismo kung pano mabully dahil sa sekswalidad ko kaya natuto nadin ako rumespeto sa ibang tao at wag mang husga*
Same story. Tapos mga kamag anak ko nga na religious sila pang homophobic. Skl
Sorry to hear about your experiences. There are Catholic communities specifically for our LGBTQ brothers and sisters. You could check Courage Philippines.
Same. 😎 I found a more beautiful life away from the catholic and religious life. Love yourself more. 😘
Sorry ah pero honest lang ako and based sa experience ko, never nagwork to be in any catholic or christian group then I am gay. Kasi pinopoint out parin mali ang magkaroon ng same sex attraction and it needs healing. For me, there is nothing to heal as to my attraction. Being responsible with my sexuality is enough for me to be a good human being.
Art Caliwag I beg God to cure my homosexuality with all my heart believing that it’s against his creation. I hated myself for a long time until I get tired praying, nothing really happens so I accepted who I really am and guess what, there is no God.
Sana may part 2. This is sooooo beautiful and the comment section, grabe nakakaiyak so much respect. ❤
I really felt comfortable while listening to this discourse. I commend these two people for conducting an assertive communication throughout the whole discussion
"they're in a coffee shop and they bash the catholic church and i feel bad"
imagine what other religion feels when you say your god is the only god.
EXACTLY