2023 Honda Civic Type R COSTS HOW MUCH?
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- In this video we talk about the upcoming Honda Cvic Type R and how much it costs. Is the Type R your next vehcicle? Leave your comments down below.
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The MSRP isn't outrageous but dealerships will mark this up by $15K which puts this vehicle into a luxury car segment which is nuts to think about.
Yeah ADM should be illegal.
Yeah, already seeing them sold for 7-15K over. Some listed for 25-30K over.
See that’s crazy
We all know about markups. Others like GR corolla will be marked up outrageously too. But at least Toyota got msrp right. Damn honda, $44k? Should be $40k.
Markups are ridiculous and should be illegal.
Without ADM, yes, it's worth it. Add what dealers will be asking...10k...20k, not a chance!
I think ADM should be illegal
I’m a huge Honda fan boi. Owned a bunch. Would NEVER pay what dealers are asking.
I might be a Honda fanboy, I've owned 6 Civics, 4 accords, crv, hrv, odyssey and a Pilot.
I would also not pay these prices.
I'll buy it all the way and the Corolla everything else can go kick rocks
I look forward to driving the GR Corolla and this new type r to see which one I like more.
Wth! $44k is bs
It should be $40k msrp. Love this car but damn $44k! Really Honda? What the heck are you thinking? I was so waiting for this car but Now I gonna look for for GR corolla circuit.
I agree, I think Honda should have priced it at $39k.
lmfao 40 vs 44 is barely $80mo difference - if $80 a month makes you cry this much. the R is out of your budget lol
Have you tried to get a GR Corolla? The dealerships can’t even tell you when you can get one. Even though released before you’ll see the Type R’s ripping around the streets by owners before the GR. And if you’re getting the two top trims of the Corolla you’re paying the same or almost the same as the Type R with less practicality and a worse interior. Type R still wins at this price point.
Good points and I look forward to driving the new type r and the GR Corolla to see how they stack up against each other
Honda value is more high than any other cars out there after a few years so I still prefer owning a Honda.
I love Honda and I have had 6 Civics, 4 accords, a crv, a HRV, an odyssey and a pilot. But this is over priced.
With dealer mark ups, prices will easily be pushing 60K for the new Type R. It's a nice car and all, but for that kind of money you can get a 3.0 Supra or a SS 1LE.
Both of those cars are great alternatives and I would never pay markup for anything.
Base 10th Gen Civic with 6MT cost about $10k. Replace the steel rims for some lightweight alloys and you got something that'll do continues lapping (no heat issue) while still returning that fun front wheel drive dynamics that baked into the 10th and 11th Gen Civics.
That is one way to go
@@CruiseControl1 Crazy that 11th is that expensive when It’s basically a stretched 10th. The Youth, who made this brand a success, are going to have to find other creative way to make it to the racetrack
I definitely agree with that statement
44k with 20k mark up come out to 64k here in CA, I walk away after I saw it
$64k? Gross
I have 2022 Elantra n dct. Model and let me say I’m blown away a really good car before Hyundai was junk. Never thought I’d buy one but this so good for price it can’t be beat. And with only a jb4 and forge intake. Car makes 310whp and 315tq. Runs 0-60. Consistently 4.44. And that me limiting the boost with jb4. In 1st and. Second gear. No wheel spin. The brakes the way car handles. Is really good I can’t find anything I don’t like besides it not being awd but. I’m happy with it. Last car I raced was a 2018 bmw m3. I pulled on him we. Only raced from 30-80 we both pulled over his car was stock. He couldn’t believe mine was stock. I figured his car be faster but. I was wrong. I also raced a c7 z51 corvette my good friend car it was tuned on e85 makes. 460 whp. We did 60-130 side by side. He was even shock so was I.
That Elantra N is no Joke! My only concern is the dct recall make sure you look out for sudden over revs. A Hyundai tech had his over rev and it blew his motor and Hyundai did not cover it under warranty.
@@CruiseControl1 I’m say it’s something he did. To the car. Considering he modified it with upgraded turbo and tuned it on separate ecu not sure what all they tried to adjust but if the pump is bad. It goes out. my car has 11500 miles and they are hard miles. I must say transmission been very good no problem what so ever
It was an over rev from the trans, engine hit 8,100rpm and it’s why the dct is under a recall for the accidental over rev. The dct is stout no doubt it’s probably more of a software miscue.
I think Hyundai went for quantitiy over quality but the car does seem like itd be pretty fun for the price. I mean, your review of the car seems like you're basically describing a drag race on a public road, so, I'm not sold. The savage geese review does make me lift my head though. Safe driving and I hope you enjoy your car :)
I think for its price it’s a no brainer.
Sadly I was 1 week away from getting the new type r and my boy tells me that they are selling it for 45k which in reality they were selling for about 60k I had to turn him down and I’ve been stoked for months
I bet a few people feel the same way
I work at a Honda store, and nobody is doing less than $10k in mark-up. I don’t think that you’re taking into account the even more obscene mark-up on other vehicles you’ve mentioned; especially the new Z.
I have seen high markups on all kind of vehicles and that should be illegal to do in my opinion. I drove 500 miles to get my car at msrp.
Now $44k for a Civic is crazy to me for msrp and even crazier when dealerships are more on top.
Don’t forget the Hondas last longer than 10yrs, don’t break down and hold the value longer 😊
That is true but $44k before dealer markup is crazy
Yeah. I had the opportunity to buy one and the dealer tried to sell it to me for $63k
That is crazy
@@ymfc5327 I feel bad for you guys trying to deal with the dealers , in Australia honda has changed to fixed pricing so the price is the same no matter the garage .
@@mickc7939 I wish we could cut the dealership out. It sucks bc they know somebody with deep pockets will pay that nonsense
Unpopular opinion- I love the FK8 and much like CruiseControl I want everyone to buy the new FL5 so I can get one :D
My hope is to pick up a used 10th gen type r for under $30k
Better handling & features, more hp, more torque, better design, wider tires, red carpet. I think it's worth it for $44k-$50k. It does looks like a Honda Accord Type R for me. 😂
Design is subjective, red carpets come on, we don’t know yet that it handles better, 9hp is not much when the weight increases, so again why $44k
As far as Dealer markups go, I have never been willing to pay 30-40% more for anything. Supply and demand dictates that people need to refuse the markup, but there will always be someone willing to pay that extra out of necessity or just keeping up with the Joneses.
Agreed, it will only stop if people stop buying cars with markups.
Yes there are cheaper alternatives but nobody wants those cars. The CTR is priced appropriately. The markups are the issue.
Markups are the bigger issue but for me $44k msrp is too high for this
November 2022 Phoenix AZ selling the 2022 Acura Integra Ftype louded for $36k.
I hope the Integra gets a type s variant
People already paying 70k for this hard pass
That is crazy
Yes please. Trade in your FK8s and hopefully make the prices go down. 50k for a 2021 with some miles is no bueno. We should be able to pick up a 2017 under 30k at this point. Yet they’re $38k minimum.
Exactly
I talk to some type r owner and think the price will never come down.
Yeah it probably won’t.
lol Dealer wanted 60k new for my FK8 - I paid 52k+ 2021 - no plans to trade in and will most likely buy an LE FL5 when they are available
Pay to play
@@TheFK8Life more money then brains
Why is it that NO ONE EVER brings up German cars when they are overpriced? It's as if it's accepted that it's OK with Euro trash to be high. The Golf R is 44k and NOBODY bats an eye. A much better built rival is now $44k and hell freezes over. Stop the brand bias and snobbery bro. Also, $44k my ass. Dealers will slap another $20k in markups and dumb people will pay for it.
As for your comparison vehicles, most of them aren't in the same category. You're comparing a Civic hatchback with plenty of space for daily use and a family to two door coupes and muscle cars. Surprised you didn't throw in a Camry. It's only true competitors are the GR Corolla, and Golf R. Also, the Civic will be better built than most of the cars on your list. It's also being made in Japan again with a lot of the assembly being done by hand with the expertise of a Takumi.
The Golf R has an advanced awd system that can send 100 percent of the tq that gets split to the back to one wheel so that it rotates, has an optional dct which is much faster than the type r, and the golf r is one of the best hot hatches ever made so $44k for that is reasonable.
Honda was known as a value brand, bringing almost as much as what German brands could do for a fraction of the price. Now that honor is for the Elantra N.
ADM is not msrp for one and you can still find some dealerships that do not charge over msrp. I bought my GR86 500 miles away to avoid markup.
WRX, Mazda 3 turbo, golf r, Elantra N, GR Corolla all have room for family and friends and all are better priced for what they give you.
As for a Mustang GT, Nissan Z or Supra they are in the price segment and are worth comparing to this $44k Civic.
Also I have owned 6 Civics, 4 Accords, a crv, a HRV, a odyssey and a Pilot. So I am all for Honda, well at least when Honda was better at pricing.
@@CruiseControl1 You mad, bro?
Passionate
$44k for useful vents. You really just said that lol
I also said it’s over priced
You can also get a gently used M240i for the price of a new Civic type R. Yes, Honda overpriced the CTR and dealerships charging crazy mark ups.
Or fk8 type r is under $28k?
After dealer markups, this vehicle will be $60k... for a Civic.
No thank you, but I do want people to trade in their 10th gen type r so the used market prices come down under $30k
For a Type R which is very different from a 25k Civic
@@CruiseControl1 Sadly, due to the scarcity of supply of new vehicles these past few years, a trend that will continue this year, the used car markets will be only marginally influenced (if at all). Late Fall used to be the time to get the car you wanted on the cheap! Used to be
Hopefully those days will come back
@@TheFK8Life It's different but still just a 4 cylinder FWD car.
If you were to get all cars at sticker there isn't another option that replaces the type r if you want a track ready package. Supra 2.0 isn't even comparable in performance other than pure HP number, GT would get smoked in any HPDE, Z is a touring car apples to oranges here, Elantra is a good point but still underperforms to fk8 let alone the new gen, wrx is not comparable in performance, golf r/corolla is same price so that could be relevant. I really think its almost in its own lane for an enthusiast who doesn't want to modify a new car to perform really well and have the true theatrics of a drivers car. If you want all of that you're talking a new price range, I think that's why its so appealing but the markups will truly define whether its worth the cost or not.
I get why a Type R is appealing as I’ve driven the 10th gen multiple times, the question here is it worth $44k? Seems Honda forgot about value, the previous gen went for $38k and that was already expensive but $44k is ridiculous.
There is no doubt the type r is impressive for a front wheel drive as I used to own a fk8, but jumping in to the 44k range I would rather spend the money on something else. For me the new Z, Supra, Golf R or GR Corolla would be a better choice if I were spending that kind of money.
What did you get after the 10th gen type r?
I ended up getting a 2020 Honda Accord touring with the 2.0T for a daily driver, I’ll end up doing a couple mods to it. I am waiting to see how well some of the new performance cars do as far as reliability and what the performance aftermarket is going to look like for each of them.
That’s a great daily and with a Hondata it will feel like a new animal
Gr Corolla Circuit not the core.
But markups make it difficult to judge.
@@Tigerex966 I would love to drive the gr Corolla and civic type r back to back
$44k is way too steep given the competition....Id much rather have a Golf R or a 2.0 Supra.
Honda used to be good at being a value leader, but now thinks $44k for a Civic is ok.
It's £50.000 here in the uk which is around 58.000 dollars it's a joke I had the previous TYPE R which I loved but its not worth what there asking
Whoa that’s way too much
On gr corolla base without lsd 37 vs 44 type r. I want gr corolla for the rarity alone and hatchback. i daily a 2015 awd wrx, awd is good but overrated for a non -winter climate .
Type r easy choice for me. Strong heritage and type r reputation itself is a standalone brandname . Honda makes the best manual transmission .
Secondly, You get gr corolla because the founder wanted a pure breed track car .
Instead , With the type r at 44k which didnt exist on a whim, you're getting Honda finest track car over 10 iterations .
All logical points and my argument is Honda is a value company, when the 10th gen type r debuted it was $34k now this model is $44k with 9 more hp? Where did the value go?
It's definitely worth it to the true Honda Boi Enthusiasts.... the price increase takes into account all the restyling upgrades and most of all the dreadful inflation!
After Adm this will end up being $60k+ and sorry it's not worth it and I have owned 14 different Honda's
Tough choice.Camaro SS or CTR. CTR has hatchback versatility and made in Japan goodness.SS has insane capability and far more potential. Both are keepers.
I will miss the Camaro as especially in 1le form
Wild.. I sold my fk8 back in April for more than what I got it for brand new and theyre on the market for 48-54k used 🤦🏻♂️ hope they drop so I can get myself into another one. Wont be able to afford the fl5
Why did you sell?
It was an impulse buy since my buddy was able to sell me one at only 1k over msrp and as funny as this sounds, I didn’t like the boost blue. Car was amazing for the year I had it but wasn’t a need. Now that I’ve been without, I miss it.. lol
I feel the same way about my 09 Si coupe in blazing orange pearl that I sold. The na k20 has 0 tq especially where I live 6,000ft above sea level but the sound was addictive and that manual are both missed. The thing I disliked the most and what led me to selling was the understeer, even with an eibach rear sway bar and learning the Scandinavian flick.
When I drove the 10th gen type r I was blown away on how it could take a corner and how comfortable it was in comfort mode. I did not like the sound though. I have heard some with aftermarket exhausts and it makes more noise but I’ve still not heard one that sounds great. Also the seats are perfect for comfort and for track.
If I could have the sound of the na k20 with the handling of the 10th gen type r I would but it on the spot.
The 10th gen actually had functional vents I don't know why people think they are fake...
It had some that were functional but also a lot that was fake.
A lot? Tell us !
You can see the fake vents in pictures or better yet in person.
@@CruiseControl1 The waffle panels were the only "fake" vents but they can be removed to open up the front end air flow/track cooling
The supra has a ton of fake vents - the R is 99% functional
@@TheFK8Life the fake vents on the Supra is a problem as well.
Wow, $43,990 ($42,895 MSRP plus $1,095 for destination charge), the previous-gen started at $38,910 or basically over $5,000 less than the new-gen Civic Type R, what will an Acura Integra Type S cost around 49k, Honda just made life hard for an Integra Type S, unless it's getting more power to address the added weight, doubtful AWD with a 6-speed manual will come now (but if it did, they could easily justify a 50k price point) or maybe there are planning a DCT, adding only an adaptable suspension won't be enough to justify a high price point, then, comes the problem of looking at other vehicles in this price range, either way, the 2023 Honda Civic Type R and future 2024 Acura Integra Type S will be low production models, just like the previous-gen Civic Type R, hence, to why Honda knows a 5k+ increase will not hurt demand
Plus ADM of $10k-$20k
Just stick with the Fk8, it looks much more aggressive and better. From reviews they both feel practically the same just more pumped in engine noise in the fl5.at the end of the day the fl5 is a nice car but nothing worth the price they are going for.
I just need a bunch of fk8 owners to trade in for the fl5 so it brings the price under $30k
Everybody want Honda nowadays.. 🤣🤣🤣
I guess so
Well the most significant difference is reliability!!! That is the most important criteria for me.
I get that but the GR Corolla will be reliable and costs less.
@@CruiseControl1 Yeah no doubt but i just feel this design on the new type r is just a mor cohesive design and the interior for me is just a lot more special. But agreed the gr corolla is looking like a pretty good option for the money.
@@CruiseControl1 Yeah no doubt but i just feel this design on the new type r is just a mor cohesive design and the interior for me is just a lot more special. But agreed the gr corolla is looking like a pretty good option for the money.
Agreed
@@CruiseControl1 yes but the GR Corolla is much less practical and from what the journalist are saying the interior is much better in the Type R vs the Corolla. As for the rest of that list there is only three I would consider cross-shopping with the Type R. The Corolla, the Golf R, and the Mustang. No Supra unless it’s the 3.0 and a manual. The Z isn’t even a consideration for me due to its lack of handling. The Elantra N well impressive is still a little too cheap feeling in the interior although excellent for the price, I just want better. And for me a usable Four seater at the least was a must. Love my FK8 and sorry, not trading it in anytime soon.
Just went to the garage and they ask 59400€, around 63000$, wtf. What had become a dream was crashed into pieces… 😔 It’s even not sure you can get one either???
Yeah it’s pricey, what about the fk8 used (10th gen type r)
They go around 38000-42000$. Also a lot for a used car. 😕 What do you think?
I am waiting for an sub $30k fk8
@@CruiseControl1 Will they ever? 30k would be a good price.
I have see a few high mileage ones 114k miles are priced around $28k
Yeah add the mark ups and it's $55k+. Might as well buy a 330i xdrive.
That is another option
I would say yes but just barely. Given this will probably be the last gas powered sports honda and the interior has been improved on , cooling has been improved, power has been improved , to some even the exterior has been improved then yes a 7k uptick seems reasonable if you need something practical but still fast. I wouldn't touch a hyundai with a 10ft pole. The Mazda is nice but it won't have the same level of build quality. The corolla you mentioned is the version that won't come with a differential or carbon roof. Where the TypeR is just that. There's no further refined version of it...yet.
Would you pay ADM is so what is the cap?
I can only afford the 1:18 scale model of this 2023 Type R when it comes out... 😆😅🤣😂
Same here
I think at 44k it's a good price. But unfortunately with all the markups you'll likely never find one at that price. I've looked at other alternatives like the golfer and Nissan Z but those two have markups making them even more expensive than a marked up Civic Type R. So really we're screwed all around.
I hope the Pendulum starts to shift towards the consumer in the near future
At 44k I am no longer interested. It’s still a civic after all. Oh wait, base civics actually come with some creature comforts like heated seats and steering wheel. I overlooked that at mid 30’s for my 2017 but will not at mid 40’s. The golf r looks a lot nicer now.
I agree that $44k starting price is too much
agreed. I was super hype about this thing for the longest time UNTIL they dropped that bombshell regarding the price. No thanks. I can't be 38 years old out here driving a $44k+marked up Honda Civic. Nah fam...
Yeah this is very disappointing from Honda. I have no doubt it will be incredible to drive and extremely capable but $44k? Come on Honda do better
Tbh I rather get the accord 😭 that shit sucks 10k mark up from Honda just to put new carpet and different scraps they had😭🤦🏽♂️ and don’t get me started with the digital gauge clusters they just took the plastic that divides it all and called it a day piece of shit scammers get scammed 😭😭 if u really want it go to Canada you can probably get your money worth iykyk😭😭😭😭😭
The new accord looks promising actually so I see your point
Costs 110k us dollars in Jerusalem, you guys are lucky.
Why $110k?
@@CruiseControl1 customs are very high in Israel/Palestine. Subaru ascent is also 100k usd, basic civic is around 55k, customs are 200% minimum and go much higher for larger engines and powerful cars. It is sad because people don't make a lot and end up with boring cars most of the time because of that.
That is not fair
I'm first on the list for the next one coming in, but hell no bc they want 60k before taxes and fees! Ridiculous. I'll hold onto my '22 corolla apex until I can get a GR corolla
$60k should be illegal for a Civic
@@CruiseControl1 I'll be happy to wait till next summer when the recession is in and they cant sell shit. And the dealership i got my car from, they have me on the list for a core GR corolla. And the only markup is 3400 for paint and interior protection shit. But at least you get something for the mark-up
@@Nerdferly Hopefully we don’t have a recession, and that is not a bad deal for a GR corolla
I think if you’re looking for a 4 door sedan that’s light weight, mature looking, reliable, powerful, and proven to be top of its class, this is a no brainer. Honda quality is really unmatched. Sure there are better bang for buck deals out there, but do you really want to settle?
I loved the 10th gen type r and I expect this to improve on an already brilliant fwd weapon that could double as a daily/track car. I just don’t think it’s worth $44k for me. However I hope enough 10th gen type r’s get traded in to bring it under $30k so I can buy one of those
@@CruiseControl1 Fair point. One can only hope!
Fingers crossed
Let’s not get ahead of yourselves saying prices are decent it’s still just a Honda Civic at the end of the day.
Agreed.
no one is paying msrp for any of these cars
Yes ADM is a big issue and it should be illegal. Though there are still some dealerships that only charge msrp
Please allow negative comments and free speech.
I understand no violence threats profanity racial slurs, but negative?
The Civic SI went up $2300 after removing heat seats and adjustable dampers worth an extra $2300.
No extra power or performance.
Unlike the Canadian market SI, the USA has no extra goodies included for that money.
So that's $4600
More technically. Ouch.
The Civic Type R goes up $6000, with again no additional standard features basically the same engine and power and no new ring trophy. Great cars still somewhat competitive and among the best handlers in their class
But way over price compared to the competition that got better.
Honda has reputation reliability low maintenance and is the sport coming act mid king in America and is among the best lookers roomiest most cargo space cleanest interior among most of its competitors.
It will probably come in last in a 0-60, but from a roll or in corners it is highly competitive, in corners it was s among the best.
Still it may command the highest markups so expect $55-$60.
Making it probably among the worst values.
They could have banned markups and said $50k, that would have been cheaper.
I just want people to trade in their 10th gen type r's so I can buy one under $30k
@@CruiseControl1 I would buy a 19th gen oops tenth gen in a minute for under 30 in good condition it's all I need right between the new si and new type r but way closer to the new type r.
The 10th gen type r is great actually
You think Honda priced themselves out of the market? Lol. Ok. Quick question, how much you think the FK8s are going for now?. I am seeing used 2yo Type R going for above msrp. The demand for these FL5s will stretch all the way into the next two years.
At $44k and the car shortage is starting to change so yes I believe they did price themselves out of the market.
@@CruiseControl1 Remember the Type R isnt suppose to be a volume seller. Even way back when I bought my FD2 Type R, I couldnt get it at msrp. And when I sold it 3 years later and bought a bigger Accord Euro R, I sold it for nearly what I bought it for. Its always been like that bro. Americans are just new to it
There were dealerships selling the 10th gen type r at msrp here, not many but you could find them and that started at $34k now this new one is $44k for what? 9hp more give me a break
Dealer near my area marking up 15k. Just ridiculous
See that’s crazy
Lmao who choose an elantra N over a civic type R 🤣
People who don’t want to spend $44k
Ill take the Type r ,,thank you 😁
Would you pay dealer markup
To be honest i did pay mark up for my fk8,,I sometimes regret it but i like it is a great vehicle,,had the chance to geab an M4 BMW,,but the driving experience on the Type r is very different from any car and thats what sold me to it. The driving experience on that little Civic is insane.
I have driven a few different fk8’s and they are always impressive to drive. I just don’t know that $44k before $15-$20k dealer markups are worth it in this case
Tell you something. Type r worth it 44-50 wish without market up .
Think about it 3 cylinder GR Corolla more than 44.
At least type r have 4 cylinder better design better torque
GR Corolla starts at $37k and has awd
@@CruiseControl1 yes just do some research. You right 👍
It'll be good for sure. But pricy af.
It'll cost as much a the very base alpine a110 here... different car but same amount of money, and the alpine is on another level.
I was almost sore to get new fl5 but now..... I'd rather spend a lil more for something else
I’ve seen reviews of the alpine a110 and I wish we had it here.
After tax, title, shipping, dealer mark up, plates, and extra for championship white.. I paid just over 67k cash..
Congrats on your new type r
@@CruiseControl1 thank you!! I'm just waiting for it to show up at the dealer, it's in transit right now.
Did you trade in a 10th gen type r?
@@CruiseControl1 no I have a 1990 crx si k24 turbo swaped 680hp and my 2004 civic si ep3 super clean, I just wanted the new type r for a daily while I turn the ep3 into my next project car. I bought the type r flat out. I'm in Illinois and there are only 2 being shipped to this state right now and I have the championship white one the other is sonic grey and I guess the guy paid 80k for that one.
Congrats on the new type r but……DAMN, 67k for a civic??? That’s more than I paid for my SRT Durango.
Surprise everything is more expensive, did we forget that some dealerships are charging 50k for a bronco sport 😅. Even with the price bump I'm sure Honda won't have any problem selling the new type R
This is true but I still don’t like it
No. It's not worth that much. To everyone saying it's worth it, your the reason mark ups are so crazy and this price is so high. You keep justifying it.
That is true if everyone stopped buying cars with markups there would be no more mark ups .
No is not worth it
What would you buy instead?
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I have close to zero desire for the 4-cylinder Supra. The lower price isn't worth that claustrophobic interior, ugly stock wheels, and much-less-special engine.
As for the Type R, I have an allocation for a 2025, but we'll see what the MK8.5 Golf R will be like by then.
The Supra 2.0 is very underrated, even people who helped engineer the Supra say that the 2.0 is very well balanced with that lighter front end. Now I would rather have the 3.0 based on the sound it makes and that it comes with a manual now but the 2.0 is underrated.
A 2025 type r allocation? I did not know you could order one that far in advance
@@CruiseControl1 The entire 3-year model run of the FL5 Type R is entirely all allocated now, or soon to be - yup even the 2025s. Bunch of dealers had to refund deposits after finding out from Honda Canada how few each dealer is getting of the 2023-2025 Type Rs.
Wow that’s crazy. Honda should build more then hopefully
COSTS HOW MUCH?
Only $44k before dealer markup
I’m sure Honda could had made it 425 hp to look good on paper and it would be a beast to go out with before the electric go in. I mean the 3 cylinder is cracking 300 for the gr.
315hp is fine for fwd if it were priced below $40k
The mark ups gonna be insane 😂😂😂🤔
I don’t like ADM!!!!!
@@CruiseControl1 everything on this FL5 is much better than the previous gen but i believe the GR Corolla will sold more 🤔
The type r will probably out sell the GR Corolla only because Toyota is intentionally making very few of them.
Yep, there are already confirmed sales over 60K
@@SelfMadeThousandaire That’s too much.
Sorry, not selling my 10th Gen. To me it's the last car that Honda will make that was adventurous in styling. The 11th Gen is just Camry styling with an ebay spoiler slapped on the back. Having driven the Yaris GR, my money is on the Corolla GR (Z and Supra are stupidly priced inb my market). i30N is the one to watch for fun stakes.
We don’t get the i30N
Put this car on a track and it is worth every penny. The only car that will probably have similar track times is the corolla at that price point. I am super excited about this but I think they blew it with how long it took to truly launch
I am sure it will be magic on the track but the 10th gen type r was as well and for THOUSANDS LESS.
It is worth every penny but that’s BEFORE the stealership gets their hands on it 🙄
I think it should have been priced around $39k
@@CruiseControl1 I think Honda marked it up so they could get more profit from the dealerships bc they knew dealerships were laughing all the way to the bank.
I agree on that
Why are all these cars so "cheap" in the US. compared to Europe?
I don't know but these cars are even cheaper in Canada
Most of those sub 40 cars look hideous though.
Sorry but the new Type R isn't a looker either unless your into Accords with a wing...
Which one would you buy?
@@CypressRacing Imagine paying over 50kusd after markups, just to blend into the crown in the fl5🤣🤣🤣
I prefer the boy racer looks of the 10th gen.
Dealer markup? Just say no.
If only it was that easy. Almost every Honda dealership is selling this over msrp because other people are willing to pay that markup. We need everyone to say no to markup and then dealerships would change.
If the new Integra was 46k after markup, the Type R should be around 60k
That’s as scary thought
With ADM $10k-$15k, I am keeping my FK8 LE😂
I don’t blame you
Saw a Nissan dealership selling the new z proto edition at $120k 😂. The car market is crashing. Hold out boys!
That is ridiculous
Honestly not worth it if they add up a 10K-20K markup for this car. I’ll stick to my 2022 Si
The Si is the smart play here.
What was Honda thinking? At this rate they are going to barely sell this car.
They were thinking 💰
@@CruiseControl1 A bit to greedy.
Agreed
Why is it only $37K USD in Canada? I’m very disappointed in Honda.
Because Canada gets a better price on the Si and the type r.
@@CruiseControl1 That lets me know it’s all about profits. Canada is a ghost town no offense.
It is definitely all about profits and I think Honda should have priced the new type r at $39k
It's not worth it at all the 1st one will start at $6000 why is everything get so expensive
Greed, inflation and supply shortage
Terreble times no explanation for all this bs i only wonder how kids will make it
Great question
Also you forgot that bmw 330i xdrive starts at 42k it much more premium car and for 8k more you can get 340i
True
They gonna realize it when they sitting on lots
I hope so
and...the old model looks better.
Worth it? Why does that matter? A pretty limited production volume will be available.
Plenty of dumb people I am sure will pay $60K for one after mark up.
Me? I would simply buy a 2 year old, low miles Lexus for much less.
The Lexus might get edged out at the stop light ballet but...will have much better NVH and you are drivng a Lexus and not a Honda Civic with a wing on the back.
Not sure who cross shops a Lexus and a type r but hey stranger things have happened
As much as I hate a stupid civic going for 40k u know if u buy this car it will hold its value for years even if with what u get isn’t worth that value
That is true.
The 10th Gen are going for forties obviously used
I’ve seen as low as $34k I just want it to drop another $5k
None of these look as cool as the type bar though I got the 2019 and it’s a head turner the rest of look like sedans or they look like the little mutt micro cars
Looks are subjective, I actually prefer the outside looks for the 10th gen type r over the new 11th gen. The interior I like more in the 11th. But from almost every test your 10th in stock form is faster than the new 11th gen.
The N are blowing up with there dual clutch and the company isn’t fixing although they are under warranty. I wouldn’t buy one.
Manufacturers are not standing bye there own products, Toyota and Subaru are not fixing the BRZ and GR86
I will not buy the 11th gen type R or trade in my 10th gen type R. 😤
I don’t blame you on that
The CZcams idiot's will pay the mark up to make content on it.
I am a CZcams person and I am not buying it.
Fl5 still has fake vents
czcams.com/video/NrmfrjDIS5g/video.html
I didn’t see any fake vents, the 10th gen type r was riddled with fake vents and honestly that was my biggest complaint.
@@CruiseControl1
~The fl5 has even more fake vents than fk8 in the front. (See autotrader's clip: czcams.com/video/NrmfrjDIS5g/video.html)
~Fk8's front vent covers can easily be removed to do something like forward facing turbo mods:
czcams.com/video/M_xla8Q8ics/video.html
I saw the clip and ok one small area is fake but the rest is not so again a big improvement over the massive fake vents on the 10th gen type r.
@@CruiseControl1 Next check out this clip with fuzz_fk8's famous exposed front facing turbo
Something not possible in fl5 without cutting out the bumper
czcams.com/video/M_xla8Q8ics/video.html
It's a bit much !!
Agreed
I think it's priced fairly considering the other options. Type R also has that name to it versus the other brands. The GR Circuit Edition is the one to own of the Corolla and that one priced the same as well.
Around 40K I'd keep a Type R. I wouldn't buy a VW branded car (without soul imo) and Z is underwhelming (but I would consider a Nismo version). Supra is only worth it at 6cyl, but would love one at 50K range. Mustang same thing would love one but with added goodies that put it well above the Honda.
Great points but I still think a Civic for $44k starting is a bit high. I was hoping it would have landed at $39k.
@@CruiseControl1 the civic doesn't have a bare bones trim that no one would actually want like the Corolla that at the base doesn't even have LSDs. A Civic with 315hp and no LSD would be junk and go straight even on roundabouts. Honda would never throw their heritage on that. The "base" Civic is comparable to the mid thrim Corolla and therefore, priced just right.
I get that but the Core GR Corolla still comes with awd which is a bonus and an expensive layout. Plus Honda could have sold this for $39k.
@@CruiseControl1 The Type-R is a much more refined machine than the GR Corolla mechanically and overall finish. It has been a "top trim" last gen and this gen again. I don't think Honda would ever offer a stripped down version just to have a lower entry point price and put the Type-R's reputation at risk. The Gr Corolla is a new entry to the segment and Toyota doesn't have all the heritage to protect.
As for the AWD, well... the Corolla understeers waaaaay more that the Type-R (based on reviews) and in practice it isn't much an advantage and adds a lot of weight, complexity and maybe long term maintenance. Yeah, it may get it off the line quicker but drag racing was never the point of the Type-R anyways.
Also, I think Honda is targeting a different demographic this time with the car more mature and all. I have the impression that they are going after the 30-40 age demographic and they tend to not let $3-4k distract them from what they want. Boyracers have more than enough FK8s around to knock themselves out. I foresee a lot of stock FL5s around as more mature buyers will get them.
Valid points and I know Honda is aiming at a more mature audience for this generation.
I look forward to driving both the GR Corolla and the new type r, preferably back to back.
The price point blew it for me and fk8 should definitely be going around 28-30 maybe 32 not 38-50
I would buy a 10th gen type r in a heartbeat once it drops below $30k.
Its too Expensive guys, Dont go buy it!! So i can get it a MSRP :)
Good luck with that
Hyundai is one of the biggest car companies in the world 🌎 the fk8 and the fl5 is the same engine in every way dont know how you people review these cars guess if you don’t own one you don’t know nothing
The 11th gen type r has a slight power bump over the 10th gen type r
Its al a slight tune
1-2 more pounds of boost
1 pound of boost = 10hp
Exactly
Not worth it!
Not for that price.
K then don’t buy it lol
I probably won’t but I want 10th gen type r owners to trade theirs in for it so I can buy that one.
Not worth it. Just buy a Civic Si and slap a turbo on it. Will still be less than $40K.
That’s a good point
I mean I own MR2-Spyder with 300HP K24 swap. Was less than $15K. Built > Bought. 95% of the time.
That sounds like a badass build, would you want to showcase your build on my channel?
El Camaro ss
Unfortunately that will no longer be a v8 as it will move to ev.
Golf is Bad car..only nissan i prefer more
The golf r is pretty good
Such an overrated car
That depends on how it is to drive, the 10th gen type r defied logic for a front wheel drive car.
I don’t think this car is overrated by any means but overpriced yes.