When your friends ruin Dungeons and Dragons
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- When your friends ruin Dungeons and Dragons
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I defo will do that 😊
Absolutely!!!!!
The collab we need: Viva La Dirt League x Foil Arms & Hog
Oh hell yes
Based
Yes!!
I've asked them actually and they said they love FAH!!!
Yes.
You guys definitely captured the DM frustration. That said, letting the new players burn down the tavern is actually a necessary ritual and shows them that DnD isn't limited like a normal video game RPG and you can in fact go on a murderous rampage if you want, just don't expect to get away with it.
Haha this is so true. Although this is exactly how we ended up with one player being branded as a thief in the first 5 minutes and another made our first mission to make enough money to get her out of jail. We ended up leaving her there because she really didnt grasp the concept that you cant just kill everyone you dont like. Love D&D.
Thought the same thing. Just let it have severe consequences. Some questgivers could have escaped the fire and forced the „heroes“ to take quests in order to not be delivered to the authorities.
@@ChromeKong Or being delivered to the authorities, locked in jail and receive the quest from an inmate, beginning the campaign in a prison break session. Sky is the limit.
@@maciejhammer2266Yeah, there's lots of ways to make things work from prison. I like having a mysterious stranger working for a higher authority who promises freedom in exchange for service :]
More like it shows them that they do stupid things and the game is over before they've even played it, so they have to take it with a certain degree of seriousness.
This is not a sketch. This is Hog's PTSD from the D&D stream 😂
We're seeing his nightmares come to life 😂
@@SamFAHntha I was so frustrated, can't imagine what Hog was feeling 🤣
😅 aw man
Where can I watch this d&d stream? I missed it!
@@natanya4674 The Hog Show Watchback on the 12th of March, 2021!
All my profound sympathy as a GM to Hog's character. This feels like experience. Loved it
Well he was doing some questionable GM stuff there.
I feel exactly like Chris, the destroyer
I agree. Long suffering the DMs have been, so called heroes enjoying their freedoms, and trashing anything they can when a choice is presented. Why did i ever let the guy play a half-troll ...
The players seem very invested, I wouldn't call the session "ruined".
As a DM you'd love Darths and Droids, idk if it's still being updated but it was hilarious back in the day
As an old school gamer from when D&D was just starting, this is a highly accurate representation of gaming with friends who know nothing about D&D.
Have you tried that trick where you have them establish backstory with each other at game start? Just some questions like Who here saved your skin and when? Who here do you admire and why? What do you love about their cooking? That sort of thing.
They clearly understand the game intimately, they went murderhobo as soon as it started!
I wouldn't know any of this pain... not at all... *eye twitch* - Rob
Hadn't watched any D&D until you started with VLDL. This reminded me of the early days of that!
'Destroy the tavern'
'It's in my nature'
It felt very Bodger.
"KILL BEGGAR" is now the Irish version of "kill jester", same energy 😂
This must’ve been therapy for Hog after the Patreon stream a few years back. Speaking of; DnD Christmas stream? Burn everything to the ground, but make it festive? We’ll bring the marshmallows!
Those will be some quick smores 😂
That would actually be amazing. And so festive 😂
Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
From the tavern burning down
Yuletide carols being sung by three guys
Who can't remember how they go
(Look I forgot I changed the rhyme, ok? Sue me, I'm not a professional musical comedian.)
Just what I was thinking!
I adore this idea ❤️
Thank you so much for the wonderful show in Hamburg last week. I think my friend 'Barbara' (Bärbel actually) will be stuck with that name now. Both of my friends were so afraid that you'd talk to them because they only have little English and the sound made it a bit difficult for them to understand you at first, all of us ended up having a really great time. You created such an incredible atmosphere and it's honestly so impressive how you managed to work all of the audience information into your sketches even if our answers weren't really helpful. It's lovely to see how Hogwash has evolved since the Fringe. From the sketches, to the bread throwing, to your singing, it's simply brilliant. You truly deserved the standing ovation and the roaring applause.
Have a wonderful day!
Thanks so much Emily, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for bringing your friends!
Yea that's how it starts, some fun with friends and before you know it, you are a full time FAH dealer. So sad.
@@whatnow9653😂 OH "no" how could she?!
Little English, but well enough to understand Irish jokes ❤ it’s so German 😊
Well said 👏 also enjoyed the Hamburg show very much 🙏🙏❤️
This is just what they'd actually be like playing this game 😂
💯
That little smirk after "charisma... 8" 😂
Now I've gotta see that.... Again 😂😂😂
What's funny is 8 is a lousy Charisma score. Anything under ten is a really bad ability.
Ah the pain. The sweet, familiar pain.
Also, this is probably the most accurate depiction of a role-playing game that I've ever seen online. I mean - maybe they could have dissected the beggar's corpse to see if he had the Golden Arc Of Life hidden in his entrails... but other than that, spot-on.
I didn't think Arms and Foil were anything like Chris and Aodghán until 'destroy the tavern'. This is exactly like their real d&d game! I rewatched it the other day and had forgotten that Foil is an actual chaosmeister. 😂 Fire, so much fire...
'And everyone inside it burns along with their well-thought out stories' Poor Hog 😂😂
So much effort up in flames
@@foilarmsandhog 'No more fire!'
Attack Chris the Destroyer!!!
Give him a good arse wooping for destroying Hog's effort 😂
Their being so dismissive of a willing DM hurts me to my very core. 😭
They say rejection causes the same reaction on the brain as physical pain so, yeah. Not cool lads 🥺
😨 oh oh
@@Ensign_Roque It's okay, it's only a sketch. Feel free to laugh away. I sure did 😂
@@SamFAHnthaoh well, thenn 😂
Btw I love how you change your name so often.
I’ve been reading “The History of Sketch Comedy" by Keegan-Michael Key and…AHA!....he talks about how much he likes Foil, Arms and Hog. Great book. And today’s sketch? Terrific!
He does? Well, that explains why I’m such a massive fan of both FAH and Key and Peele. 😂
Sooo ... FAH are Official Comedy Legends. Excellent.
I did not know Key and Peele wrote a book and they love my favourite Irish comedy group . I had downloaded a book by Jordan Peele a few weeks ago - an anthology of black horror writers .
@mayannaburmeister9741 the book was written by Key and his wife Eve. Jordan Peele contributed to the book (his thoughts on sketch comedy), but didn’t write the book. I'll look for Peele's book too.
Love this, so much fun and I'm so pleased Hog got a sketch around one of his passions. The sound, lighting and editing are 👏👏
Cheers K
@@foilarmsandhogit's giving Matt Mercer and I'm here for it
@@adedow1333Indeed. How many times have we seen poor Matthew rip up a sheet of a never to be seen encounter!
@@hannah4042as a DM, those encounters aren't wasted. They just get recycled to be used later, just slightly adapted.
There is something marvelous in the combo noob energy meets experienced play calling and murderous rampage. Very accurate. Is it just me, or is Hog wearing a blanket tied with some random string to look cape-adjacent? Genius. 10/10
I get the feeling Hog didn’t need to act very much during this. That passion shows through…
‘Like a sex thing!?’ 😂
💙
"The Dungeon Master - so you can give it but you can't take it.?!" You gotta think that had resonance for quite a few _outside_ of the D&D community... OK, that was probably the subtext of the joke 😮💨😔 Sorry!
I saw ur show last week and had an iconic experience. First I started shaking when it started. When meeting u afterwards, I was so full of adrenaline I have a partial blackout from what happened. I just blurted out something, took a photo and left. I am writing this to say I love u guys, I consume your content everyday. Thank you for helping me find out what hell of a fangirl I am 😅
A FAHngirl 😁
I know exactly what you mean. Feel that so much myself.
I always wait longingly for Thursdays and when I see this new video I start shaking with anticipation, always really excited to see what will make me laugh this time.
Every week I feel like a little child at Christmas.
I felt the exact same way at the live show. 😉
Ah, lovely to meet you too. What's a little blackout between friends
Ah stop, that's so sweet haha! It's not just you, I promise 😂😊
I only witnessed D&D from the sideline….But I was in Rotterdam last Sunday! My second Hogwash experience, I was in London as well. It was amazing both times. London had the extra thrill of seeing you perform live for the first time, and in Rotterdam it was the anticipation of knowing what was coming, which made that extra special. I was so happy to see the Drunk Monks live! 😃. And to be in a Doomdah! Twice! Woohoo!
This perfectly encapsulates why I write novels but I’m not a fan of D&D. I’ll sit down for a game where I want everything to be in-universe and for the world building to be consistent and someone will enter in with space jets inside a medieval tavern. 😂
WHATS HAPPENING, I JUST WANT A NICE ALE
Bloody interdimensional tourists/mercenaries... ;)
no irishman would destroy a pub without having a drink first! ❤
Chris only has destruction on his mind 😌
Well he was pretty biased to it from the beginning. Maybe a virtual drink just didn't do it for him 😅
Considering you guys make a living writing and acting out characters, something tells me this sketch hits particularly close to home for you guys. 😂
It was such a pleasure attending your shows and meeting you last week in your European tour! I hope you get a little rest before you tackle Vicar Street in December. PS: I sent you a note; I hope you've seen it. 👍😀
Oh I'll have a look today Bernadine
I was in the audience in Rotterdam, thanks so much for a wonderful show! 💐🍞
(And I genuinely just joined a new D&D group, so you guys have perfect timing as always)
Ah thanks for coming
I too was in Rotterdam, loved the show :D
Long ago I was on a quest with „the gang „ and we brought in two new guys who’d never played. We start the quest by going into a shop in the village we were dropped in. We talk to the shopkeeper and got the DM‘s explanation of our quest. On the way out a New member decided to test his skill as thief and pocketed something. Shopkeeper came running out after yelling we were thieves pointing at the new guy. We fought our way out getting no supplies but he was mortally wounded wounded. We had a cleric with healing skills but instead he pulls a reanimate the dead spell and turned him into a zombie for the rest of the quest. lol. Listening to those two bicker was like hearing Chewbacca & C3p0 argue.
Lol as a DM and player, this was extremely painful but also relatable. Super grateful for my current playgroup. Funny sketch!
That's lovely, I'm sure they're grateful for you too. That being said... burn the tavern down I dare you 😂
@@SamFAHntha Haha I always say the mark of a DM is that the players CAN burn down the tavern and still have an awesome adventure and quest lol. Or die to the overpowered tavernkeeper... either way 🤣
So many LEVELS of brilliance!! Your production quality is amazing, it looks absolutely professional! The lighting, music, Hog's costume, the shots of the dice rolling onto the map, the sound of fire crackling and are those little bits of ashes rising at one point? It's just...chef's kiss! Plus funny recalls of the destructive D&D stream on Patreon 😂 Excellent work guys, it's funny and looks class too!
That's what I thought too (especially reminders of the Patreon livestream) but you expressed it all better than I could.
@@28512and it's the squatters crew doing something new we've never seen them do before! How are they so good!!!
Thanks Jim! Best of luck in the election 🍺
@@foilarmsandhog❤❤❤ have a smithwicks or three on me ;)
Oh, ashes! I thought the office was just dusty.
As a forever DM this triggered me on an emotional and spiritual level.
🤣 How much of this is taken from Hog's real life experience, of trying to get reluctant friends to play D&D?
I'd play with him any time of the day 🙋🏾♀️😅
Love it! Soundtrack, lightning, costume (😂), expressions, cynicism. Best one for a while.
No for real, this was so good
“Lops off his own head”, I’d honestly be impressed by that
"I'm Chris The Destroyer, it's in my nature" 😂 My son is in 3 different D&D groups and DMs quite often. Shared!
Lads, these last two gigs were amazing. I can't believe how lucky I am to be able to see you 3 different times! It was very obvious in Hamburg how shattered you all were, please, don't make 4 headers anymore, esp if you are travelling to different countries! In Cologne you were more rested and it ended being to date one of my favorite meet and greets, it was just so perfect! Hope you had plenty of rest after you came back (I know I did, lol, I love trains but I def got train overload xD) and I am happy that your next two months are all near where you are situated anyway. Take care lads!
Ok now, for the slagging :P
4 in a row is the max
@@foilarmsandhog Glad to hear it!
That’s so awesome that you were able to travel all over Germany (and Prague, I’m guessing?) seeing their shows. I traveled all over Bavaria on trains in 2022 while on vacation. I live in NYC, but traveling around the north eastern US to see several of their shows would have been a bit much, I’ll admit. 😂
@@laurenconrad1799 No, I was in Hamburg and Cologne, I didn't go to Prague. I was in Bremen the day before the first gig.😊
@@laurenconrad1799 If you mean the third gig I mean, it was last month in Oxford.😊
Did the elf thought about to use his skill to throw a slice of toasted bread in this quest? I think the Destroyer would have been impressed.
Having played DnD and Pathfinder, this is hilarious. Our party did a few things our GM hadn’t planned for and we took him by surprise. Hard to do! 😂😂😂😂
A sketch on D&D may attract a niche audience primarily.... But since Dungeonmaster Hog made Foil and Arms play this game in that Patreon livestream years ago, at least my interest in this item of cultural heritage has already been activated. Well played, Lads 🙂💯
That stream was an ad all along! 😂
As a DM the part where they said "We get you wanna be the Dungeon Master" but totally lacked awareness or appreciation of the amount of work that goes into building the world and the story really hit home.
😂 Loving the cologne model lighting. "They've LOVELY skin [Anne's voice,fans self]
Cant wait to see the multiple potato-themed snacks Chris brought.
For a few minutes, this took me back thirty years.
I wish there had been more.
I have strong feeling that the weary beggar knew more than they let him to tell... you always, always listen to a weary beggar. Maybe he knew where the aqua suits are! Ahhh, rookie mistake 😂 Grand as always, lads 💙
Good for Hog for writing this sketch, I can tell it’s his idea! Very interesting
Something tells me "Finally it's accurate" was Foil's idea but who knows 😂
Well okay FAH knows but ya know.
Haha I love Hog in this video! Reminds me of myself convincing my family to play some board game that isn’t Scrabble.
😂😅 this is too much, I'm dying, pls don't stop, make contents keep coming
Seems to me that Hog just couldnt deal with the fact that Arms and Foil won D&D at the start itself. LEGENDS!!
And what did we learn kids?
Never trust Aodhagán with a sword! Or just don't trust him at all.
He's very suspicious this guy 🤔 Maybe Suits should've given him luck -10, like this every attempt to murder someone would've not worked out 😅
@@Ensign_Roque Hahaha, yes! He wields the all powerful sword in the air. When suddenly it disintegrates into little pieces raining down on his head foiling his plan. As due to an ancient curse no elf can touch the mighty Sword of Galabrian.
Absolutely sending this to all my d&d friends, this is soooo good!! Love the chaos, that's exactly how d&d sessions go 😂😂
I saved this sketch to watch on a day when I needed it most. and you did not disappoint. TOO many things to point out that I love!
This sketch is so utterly brilliant - the plot, lighting, editing, soundtrack - I actually started leaning towards the screen. And the characters too!
Suits is so well done. With this level of nerd it would be easy to say it's Hog - but the seriousness and the annoyance is pure Suits (and there's not enough laughing for it to be Hog!). And the tiny expressions make it look like Suits is getting these wee flickers of joy from his friends getting into it (even if it's Hog suppressing a laugh 00:58). Very convincing. I love Suits.
Aodghán is also pretty great and convincing here. Not arsed and angry but also accidently letting himself get into it, but completely himself in the end.
And Chris - here I actually think the bully from the 80s does work as a contrast to Suits, like the set up of them both not being into D&D works. As a character himself... I don't know. The glance at the camera when he thinks he's got high charisma is funny and makes him feel a bit real. And because he's playing a character you don't see so much actual character so it kind of hard to judge. Though the ending with Chris's 'whoa what a quest' feels kind of jarring and a bit caricaturey.
Am I saying anything interesting? No. I just wanted to acknowledge it is difficult really. Like you are trying to set up three characters who in different scenarios are always two against one and the dynamics of who the two and one are has to be able to change. I rewatched all squatters and can't really think where it's like three individuals all different against each other. Maybe nearer the start (of episode 2)? Or in this one when C & A are arguing - a great moment. Like I've seen others say I think Chris being if not loveable then at least likeable is good. Like I get the other two are arses at times but they also have moments where they're not so awful or you can see why they're like that (low self esteem, low prospects, very narrow lives). And personally - I don't know why Chris has to be so stupid. I don't know why everyone has to be so mean either 😂 though I'm getting used to it. And with this sketch they actually didn't seem just mean. I've said this a few times now - but this is my favourite squatters to date! I really enjoyed it!
Good FAHnalysis there! I also thought this sketch was really good, but a bit more difficult to tease out the Squatters characters from their D&D characters (multiple levels of acting!). Like many FAHns (I think) I'm trying to figure out where they're going with Chris' character and what version of him "works best." (I did rather like it in Episodes 1 & 2 when Chris seemed to be the polite people-pleasing one with a properly-adjusted moral compass - but then he turns to the "dark side" a bit at the end of Ep. 2 and it feels a little bit as though they've let him "fall" from there.)
@@anonymous_selkie Ah, thank you for taking the time to read it 😅 I am certainly one of those fahns wondering about Chris! Picturing original Chris in this, it does still work. It's just different. They just seem to so easily completely capture their other characters (Anne, Oisín, Barry, McCormacks, Mrs Geraghty) but maybe it is the needing the characters to play different role in different scenarios that's the difference here (or thinking about it again now maybe I'm wrong about that and it's not necessary with the right characters).
Anyway, I enjoy things by analysing and thinking about them. The squatters sketches are giving me lots to think about!
Thanks, fellow fahnalyst!
Hi, my brother and I were at your show in Rotterdam. We loved it!! We are half German and half Dublin, so we have problems like we don’t get our own jokes and stuff. But we got help for it and now we’re doing better...getting there...one step at the time...we got most of your jokes so I take that as a good sign. Also feeding the ducks got a whole new dimension for us now!
Ah this was excellent (& I hate quests of any description!). Any chance Hog did some method acting for this one..?! Can we put ‘Destroy the Tavern!’ on a T-shirt yet?
Great idea
I want one!
With a qr link to this video!
Thank you so much for the fun show last sunday! I was still buzzing with enthusiasm a couple days after X)
"Is this a sex thing?"
"Far from it!"
The set and lighting is so good. I have never played this, I think I am too old for this. And this looks like a game to be played in cree0y basements. 😂
Hog's costume is so good. And he looks like a great storyteller. 😍
Nope. Never too old, never too nerdy about it.
The lighting in this is phenomenal ❤
Okay, this was just great. Love you doing DnD/RPG stuff, please lean into that more, you are fantastic at it.
Yes!! I haven't stopped smiling! I love this! I love the story arch of them getting into it but ultimately dont care/stay true to character. And the high octane d&d montage (dice rolling). So good 😂
This sketch had such a great arc..I bet it was written by the amazing Dungeon Master 😉
Very well done and as always very funny, lads 👏👏
It's the accidentally getting way too into it for me XD
It was inevitable 😂
This is my new favourite video. Absolute class
DM : alright boys, time for some innocent railroading.
Chris The Destroyer : destroy the tavern.
DM : shit. Time for some ultra-railroading.. let's get this show on the road!
Aodghán : *has Intelligence equal to that of an average wild animal*
Hahahahaha I definitely have to send this video to my game master ! This first time I did a roleplaying game, my first action was to jump out from the tavern's window ! 😂
Loved the three shows in Hamburg, Cologne, and Rotterdam the past weekend! ❤️🤩
I'm so glad my friend could watch two of the most happening Hogwash shows that I've watched so far! She may have told you that I dragged her to the shows but she absolutely liked the shows!!
As a Role-player who saw them in Glasgow and therefore, unlike Rotterdam, didn't get the "audience photo", I feel doubly snubbed!
I will retrieve my wand of trio blasting forthwith!
A wonderful laugh for a cold Thursday, thank you!
This seems to be the DMs fault for:
1. Not approaching them first, whether they are down for it
2. Not letting them create their own characters, so they can feel attached to it
3. Not getting started with a premade tutorial campaign, before coming up with something elaborate
Love the lighting!!! That and "kill everyone and destroy everything"
Nah. The pit of despair is from Princess Bride!!!!
So much truth and pain in one clip.❤
I wonder what could possibly have inspired this? 😂 Actually took a while but at least Hog finally got to vent his frustration. Ironically you actually got further in this one in the end. Have you enjoyed some more games since?
Roll with the punches, save the lost plots and subplots for another game.
"You want to try to destroy the tavern? Ok, how? Do you just start attacking a person in there, or do you just take a swing at a wall or a table?"
Foil’s character should earn more charisma for that last move😂😅👌🏼
I've never played D&D and I think this is the funniest Foil Arms and Hog video I've ever seen!
OMG THE COMBO OF THR CENTURY!! DND AND FAH??!? as a Dm and a huge fan i gotta hand it over to ya lad for helping me learn accents to immerse my players into the game
The ending was epic lads.😂😂
But I need a longer version.
What happened to the beggar 🤔? To Chris the destroyer, now that Aodhagon the elf has beheaded himself?
What happened to the ark of life? I shall await part two......
That made the dm in me wince, god. I tried to run something for a group, and 2/4 of the players basically behaved like that... I just remember having to quit and find a better group because, despite THEM asking me to run it.... they just kinda didn't care.
Your sketch is spot on
Don't you just wish you could take your moody set lighting everywhere you go and look that suave in real-life situations when you watch this 😅
Hahaha, I sure would! I couldn't pull it off, but I'd love it nonetheless 😂
In my case that looking suave would not only be a lighting issue though.... But it might help a bit 🙂
"I destroy the tavern... I'm Chris the Destroyer, it's in my nature."
Nice use of the dice for transition there. Can't wait for more episodes. Squatters has such a bro vibe, I'm excited to see how a woman's voice can add even more hilarity to an already hilarious scenario.
This is hilariously accurate! I love the phandalin map just for accuracy.
Love it! The burning tavern mention reminded me of the actual D and D livestream. So funny! Poor Hog
FAH and D&D. My two favourite things ever, combined. Thank you so much for this! ❤❤❤
This video perfectly echos the sentiment of 'its easier to turn DnD players into your friends that is to turn your friends into DnD players'. I very much emphatise with Hog here, the struggle just isn't worth it and sessions with people that aren't passionate about their characters just tent to suck. One schmuck is fine since you can either reform or boot him/her. But more than that just needs to disaster. Never gove out pre made characters, since your character is the main way you interact with the world and people just wont care if they dodnt make themselves
This is every D&D game
Yay, I really like exploring these characters along with you lads! How did the quests of touring go for you? Did you conquer the homemade beverage from Hamburg?
Literally when I tried introducing my father and friend to it, they killed each other in the first few minutes, I even brought in an owlbear to try make a common foe
This strangely reminds me of that one patreon livestream hosted by Hog 🤔😆
Great one, lads! And thank you for the brilliant evening in Hamburg last week!!!
Some of the best sketches are the ones where it seems like you are just watching life happen.
This is why they say 'nerd is the new sexy'
I was hoping for you lads to make a full D&D stream of your own. Would love to see that someday
They did, on patreon.
They did on Patreon! - The Hog Show Watchback (12/03/2021)
I’d say all three of you have intelligence 10 and charisma 10. How else could you write such brilliant sketches every Thursday and charm every audience member at your shows? 😉
10 is average in a D&D score :)
Oh whoops. 😂 I don’t know the exact numbering system.
Hog is really acing his "What?!-game" in this sketch. 😁
I have that exact DM panel.
…And those exact gobshite friends.
OMG you did a sketch on one of my biggest hobbies AND then ended it with the Rotterdam DOOMDAAAH. I visited the show not even a week ago, super hyped to see the ending. Also went to see you guys in Amsterdam with the same show in October last year and it was even more brilliant than the first time. Absolutely loved your interaction (and yes, the bread throwing was (almost) better than the whole show :p). Can't wait to see you guys again!❤
P.s. yes pleeease try a collab with VLDL,my 2 favourite youtube channels together would be the absolute dream
The added music makes it even funnier
Really funny video guys, one of your best this year 😂🤣🤣🤣
The DM added a water section, but didn't realize no one had a swim speed.
Well done wallpaper-shirt! You made it to 15 appearances in thursday-sketches before the end of 2023 and it only took you about 10 years. What an achievement. It almost makes me feel sorry for what I did to you in my story for the fahnartchallenge. Almost.
I hope the lads will treat you now with a fun trip to the washing machine or a relaxing handwash, followed by a hot iron massage. Not too hot of course. We don't want you to get ruined. You are still needed for at least the next 10 years or the moment Foileewoilee decides it's time for a change. Until then, enjoy your success.🥳🥳😆😆
How far behind is red and black chequed shirt?
@@foilarmsandhog The stats aka my excel-sheet say that the Influencer-dad-shirt needs one more thursday-appearance on one of you or in the background this year to get to 20 in 7 years. 🤓