What is Ethiopian Opal - Value & Meaning
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- www.MoreGems.com - Steve Moriarty discusses why it is a good idea to invest in Ethiopian Opal at this time as well as the benefits to buying this material.
Faceted, cabbed, and carved welo opal is available today. Most of our opal has been cut by Master Gem cutter, Steve Moriarty. Buy high quality welo ethiopian at www.moregems.c...
Also available to see in person at Moriarty's Gem Art Store at 126 South Main Street, Crown Point, Indiana. We're located in the hub of Northwest Indiana on the downtown Square.
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I just love the Ethiopian opals... the vibrant colors are so beautiful.
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I recently went to the Tucson gem show and purchased a ring of this type of opal. I felt like I was at the battle grounds with proponents of Ethiopian opals being bad mouthed by Australian opal fans. It was surreal but educational. Thanks for your video and your clear explanations.
HomesBy Alex ...50 years of cutting...buying..selling opal. Aussie stones overpriced. I do not even look at them anymore.
I am from Ethiopia I have different types of gemstone ...if want inbox me
Such a beautiful stone that I've only recently discovered. Thank you for the great info.
Yoga Sound Healing No problem, it is a wonderful gem that is very available at this time! You can see our large selection of custom cut opals online at www.moregems.com/loose-cut-gemstones/opal-loose-gemstones.html. All of our precision cutting is done in-house.
To everyone who bought Ethiopian Welo Opals in recent years before the mine was closed to mine tantalum instead , Congratulations ! 🎉
To get anywhere near the equivalent colour vibrancy in Australian would cost many times more. Or at least it did. Ethiopian opal prices are now rising so fast for good colour play.
I've admired & bought opals in jewellery since I was 18. Initially, the only opals for sale were Australian. & to get any fire in them used to cost €100's per tiny stone in 9 carat & upwards gold.
Australia does still yield some fantastic opals. These tend to be boulder/ darker background type.
Ultimately I've found that Ethiopian opals are far more durable, vibrant and much harder wearing.
The best seam found so far for Ethiopian was about 3-4 years ago. But alas it may have been short lived. They can still be found in retail stores & jewellery on shopping channels. However, these now get sold out fast & are usually now sold in small quantities.
Im new to opal I started with Ethiopian opal and I've been struggling to buy it on bulk but I paid like 24 dollars for 3 unpolished rough opal and for my first time polishing opal by hand to they turned out amazing there's a lot of scammers for Ethiopian opal rite now it seems
we are happy to here that I am in opal business it's good to here that
from Ethiopia. ..Thanks guys
I have a half an egg size opal which has a stone in it
How do I enter the business? What kind machines are required?
Hello.. sebil I have different types of gemstone if u want inbox me
In legal
KG has the opal
Only reason I’m here
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Shit... i bought one after that movie lol. Took me 1 month to get it. Not worth a million dollars, but still bad ass.
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What movie?
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I have been cutting Welo opal since it was discovered in 2008. I was lucky enough to be on the bottom floor after a few others. I collaborated with Paul Downing to help produce the 2011 article in Rock&Gem magazine October issue on Welo. I sent Paul the first pieces of Welo rough he had ever touched. A lot of things said in the comments are not quite right and some completely spot on. I have written an article in North American Faceters Guild news letter on cutting Welo opal. Note that not all Black Welo are smoked or dyed, only the ones from unscrupulous sellers are, and as for crazing the crystal Welo that is not hydrophane , yes there is non hydrophane Welo, loves to craze it acts just like Virgin Valley Opal. I have cut black Welos with perfect harlequin patterns and have had to defend them against spoiled cry baby Aussie opal dealers who swear only they can call their opal black and claim Harlequin is only an Aussie opal Pattern. Aussie opal dealers feel threatened and worry that their opal while lose value because of Welo... now with all that I have said I still love Lightning Ridge Black opal as my #1 and believe there is no opal finer or rarer than Lightning Ridge Black opals.
Z2FAST I’m having trouble understanding the difference and definitions of Hydrophane and Non-Hydrophane opals. If the definition of Hydrophane means “water loving” then why does non-hydrophane opal crack upon drying out? If it was truly non-hydrophane, wouldn’t it resist soaking water, and not have crazing or cracking issues upon drying out? This is what confuses me. If it’s non-hydrophane, then there shouldn’t be any crazing issues, because the definition of non-hydrophane is to resist water, not absorb it.
well said
true toby the detail of lightning ridge opal is unmatched...all welo opal has a sort of translucent effect...it looks "unreal" or dreamy.. where as lightning ridge is real and sharp as it gets. also very tough to crack while on the wheel...I think the drop test for welo is so good because it is a lot lighter, but I cannot tell you many I have cracked. my only problem is where to buy rough... lightning ridge rough is so hard to find. welo I can at least still get my hands on, but even then I feel like im still a few rungs down the supply chain. what's the next opal craze? I want in, give me the rough its all I dream about xD
@@galaxyartstone very simple no hydrophane seem to lose water thats what makes opal craze, not absorbing water, i have bought welo since 2010 and not a single opal crazed over the years
@@jamesanagnos6123 It is fairly easy to see the difference between gem grade and specimen grade Welo opals after looking at so many over the years. I made a bad gamble recently on some transparent “Mexican Contraluz” opals going around. Yeah, they craze. I’ve been all through Ethiopian, Brazilian, Australian, and now Mexican opals. The Mexican fire opals are excellent though, I do say 100%. I just really wish someone would’ve warned me about those transparent “Mexican Contraluz” opals. No bueno!
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Excellent explanation about Ethiopian welo opal. Thank you Steve.
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If you neet it i have on hand gays
Those stones been here since the beginning they literally the only legit connection we have still in this world to the ancestors💯
Excellent presentation of Ethiopian Welo Opal.The finest of these rare,beautiful and very precious stones is called IMPERIAL OPAL(Opale Impériale):Queen of the Queen of Gemstones.Constellations of pure color in gemstone.
Almost all types of precious gemstones can be found in Ethiopia. One can just refer some of the ancient scriptures written in GEEZ language, such gemstones are mentioned along with their respective descriptions. So, the challenge is where to locate them now
Love this new opal. I have already purchased several pieces (gorgeous, and one of mine displays that rare violet color as well as neon green) at very low prices. Hopefully one day, my son (now under a year old) will benefit from me being mindful enough to buy some for him for later, even on my single mom budget!! I hope in later years the prices go through the roof so he can benefit.
We do too Melissa Beckwith! Well if you need any more, visit our opal selection at www.moregems.com/--1?limit=all !
Melissa Beckwith Bom dia mulher linda e maravilhosa gata demas você é top! meu amor!
Young lady, please take them to a registered trusted jeweller and keep a stiff upper lip. They do look great, but what my jeweller showed me about a real opal and what I received , well my lip was trembling.
MoreGems.com which do you recommend? My son is 6 and wants to be an archeologist, he's been to pyramids around Mexico. And collects rocks from anywhere he goes. Thank you
Welo Ethiopian volcanic Opal is amazing ! So intensive multicolor patern.
I thought Welo opal was _more_ vulnerable to crazing because it is hydrophane, meaning it may craze once removed from the ground and dried out? Also violet is not uncommon in Australian black opal, violet-green is a common-ish color combo
I've found the chocolate body colored with vivid multi fire was the best of my collection. I've never seen it elsewhere.
Great video, really gorgeous gems. I do think Wello is pronounced Well-Oh (as in "water from a well"). Thanks!
Ethiopian opals are littt 🔥
come to Australia and you will see all the violet colour and any other colour in opal that you want to see.
Steven Letheby if I wasn't a dialysis patient and suffer with a spinal cord injury and had lots of money, I'd be there in a heartbeat! I love Aussie opal extremely. I win a few auctions, but I can't afford the real nice stuff like pipewood, black and Andamooka and Bellmore. I love the boulder because it's beautiful and in my price range. Gosh I hope that I get lucky and win some of the finer material. My favorite is Aussie pink diamond, but I can't afford to buy it either LOL! Opal has the fire and brilliance of diamond and affordable! Thank you Australia Welo and Indonesia wood fossil for my precious stones. God's Glory for sure!
Steven Letheby any images plz
"..........this opal is superior to any from Australia !" (BTW I got a bunch cheap and I'd like to sell it for a fortune). Steve, if you need a laugh, check out Oregon fire opal. You wouldn't chuck it at a cat.
Steven Letheby It’s all about price for me. High quality at an affordable price.
@@Moregems Go Ethiopian opal gang!
Nice job! You covered the treatments and enhancements so well ! 😎😎😎
Just bought one after watching uncut gems
Agree look at what happened to Queensland white milk chaffe opal. They used to facet the stuff. Now you'll have a hard time finding a good cabochon.
Love Ethiopian opal colours are super super fire 🔥😍
Nice stuff! Love the facet cuts and different shapes to show off the top shelf opal. I just wasted 20 minutes because the opal is so beautiful and you had a link to your site.
Find any you like Murray Donovan ? You can also see more of our opal jewelry online at our sister website www.OpalLust.com, which is dedicated to our loose opals and opal jewelry.
You are the only, so called, expert, I have ever heard say that Ethiopian opal is better than Australian.
Actually whilst I disagree with his pricing and some of his opinion. He is not the only one to say Ethiopian Opal is better than Australian, even some Australians are say the same. It is tougher than Australian Opal and does have fantastic colour play.
@@mikecaleta9757 just don’t forget to take it off in the shower! I guess it is all subjective anyway. I know what I would rather have, Lightning Ridge Black Opal any day.
Ok a couple of things. Australian black opal will always be worth more due to its rarity. And a lot of what I’m hearing sounds like marketing and take action now.
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Just got 1 .90 crt for a good price thank u Steve very rare opal
so beautiful...aside from their beauty, will they increase in value and therefore a good investment also? wondering how abundant their source is and how long before it depletes?
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I don’t think anyone knows. My guess is it will last for years but again you never really know with mining . Investment can be realized from a gem running out or getting rare or from the market growing, which in my experience growth is happening. Buy top quality and your odds of realizing an increase in value are good.
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If this type of opal's weight will change in high humidity wouldn't you risk losing a stone in very cold climates?
I have a 4 carat opal my Grandmother gave me when I was 8 (I am now 61). It is encircled with rubies and the opal itself is held down with so many prongs I don't think it would ever come loose and is still gorgeous to this day.
get in Our shop is in Northwest Indiana (Near Chicago) and we get some pretty harsh winters and haven't had any issues with cracking or crazing with a finished stone. I suppose if an Ethiopian opal is saturated with water, then you wore it outside in a cold climate, there then could be a possibility of some issues. Otherwise, they are stable and we haven't had any issues due to a cold climate.
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So cool! Opal really interests me, but I only like specific stones - I don't like the red flashes in Ethiopian opal, and sometimes the green in Australian opal.
Very interesting to learn they are a recent discovery, possibly temporarily available for these low prices. I've started to specialize in Ethiopian fire opal sterling silver rings. I'll have to start saving the really nice ones and making a stash as well.
Wish i knew how to set faceted cut instead of just cabochon but the faceted ones are so much more expensive. I was lucky enough to find a lot of flat back faceted slices i'll make doublets out of. But the cutters always choose the nicest pieces to facet.
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According to the videos in youtube, welo Opal is incredibly abundant, running through a ridge of mountains for hundreds if miles.
i live near the mountin its just one mountain and the cave collapsed recently with miners inside are dead , its so bad 1 mountain for the whole world makes it rare also the color makes it rare aussie
@librarypub4670 , I am in Canada and only started getting interested in opal after watching some videos about people collecting rocks and fossils. I will have to read more about it. I didn't know about a cave in. There's not much that I do know about any of this, but I have been collecting small chips and little bits of opal from Australia and Ethiopia. The Ethiopian opal is very beautiful but very fragile, some of it you have to keep in water or it cracks up and others lose their colour if they get wet and they can crack if they dry too quickly, but they will get the colour back when they dry. It's very beautiful and very interesting too.
thank you for the informative video!!!
Colour is interesing (a little flashy) but the water absorption is a deal breaker.
wow how do you get them to photo so well? Mine are camera shy.good job!
These opals can be difficult to photograph, but it just takes some playing around with the lighting.
Against a black background the translucent welo opal shine it's best.... 😉💎
I am finding good deals in Qatar on Ethiopian opal. Really nice stones here. Look great with sapphire set in white gold.
Hello friend...I am from Ethiopia 🇪🇹 if u want I have different types of gemstone 💎..& different colour opal
HI dear ,My name is Mekasha Kassaw I am from wello Ethiopia,if you are interested in ethiopian opals my company wag cannan precious stones cutting decorating and exploring plc. can supply whether rough or polished opal and other gemstones.
I am in ethiopia ,contact me for source of most beautiful finds
I am in ethiopia ,contact me for source of most beautiful finds
I would like a pair of earrings round 8mm or so obviously just similar color and pattern I know they won’t completely match
Hi Danielle, I do believe we have some 6mm round (& possibly 8mm) cabbed Ethiopian Opal earrings. Please email our Sales staff at MoriartysGemArtStore@gmail.com . They can get you the pricing and email you some images of what we have available. If we don't have any set up at the moment, I know that we do have quite a few loose 6mm rounds that could be set up into earrings for you. Thanks for contacting us.
7 yrs later, I've managed the have tons of welo crazing and cracking, sometimes you cut it leave it a yr or two and it's cracked. The non hydrophane pieces are much more resistant ...
We have not had the same experience you’re having. Crazing has not been an issue for us.
We do not work with the non hydrophane, they are not stable.
@@Moregems very professional video btw always fun to watch skilled professionals✌️I'm a long time semipro lol, I used to cab only agates and common quartz(s) etc with my dad who was a real lapidary artist. I've always eyed opal but because Australian opal was way too expensive as a teen and young adult I've stuck to labradorite and such... Skip a couple years and we discovered very cheap Shewa nuts but it was cracking just by looking at it, nonetheless I managed to get some nice stones and priceless was the learning experience with such finicky material! When then discovered welo ridge I was one of the first to buy parcels. Way better but the hydrophane ones are still very finicky; good yield but I've been deceived by its stability more than less, I got my hands on some nice chunks of darker non-hydrophane crystal 🥰😊 but I didn't do anything with it yet; I was unsure if I'd kept them as specimens or not. The mineral collector dilemma... Cheers I subscribed that's for sure (;
@@LaurentiusTriarius The hydrophane opal, if it cracks, happens right after we cut it when it is drying out. After that we will recut and not have that same issue again. We’ve had many of these hydrophane Opals for years and still look great and no crazing issues. The crystal (real clear colorful stuff) non hydrophane opal, on the other hand, we have had many issues with and do not cut it any more. We had one that was fine for about 6-8months, then started to craze. We just sell these as specimens in water globes now.
Dude dont know what hes talking about. Trying to sell stuff he dont even know reading from a q card cant evee speak his own words
All my opals turn clear,.. as soon as I wear them. Does anyone know why this happens?
The Bakers Are you getting them wet. Washing hands?
Ethiopian opals soak in water and turn clear. In time they will dry back to their original state. Remove your ring when you wash your hands or shower. Also be careful with kther chenicals or cleaners as the opal can soak in those liquids and could ruin the stone.
why do they turn yellow, and can they go back to clear if they do?
Beautiful
Simply put No.
Double sided fire australian white opal is capable of balancing all planets and chakras.
So I’m going to invest in some but what ones should I buy raw ones or cut ones and what size caret should I look for
nice and cheap thanks to the 7 mile canyon of it. Black Opal is my favorite
my birthstone is opal
Happy October Birthday! Visit us online at www.MoreGems.com and pick out a birthstone for yourself! ;)
mine too that's the only reason im here to pick out some nice jewelry with my birthstone
Thank you.
I was watching a documentary the other day on this and they mentioned that the original deposit seam is now played out and they are mining smaller nearby seams. has this affected the availability or quality at all ?
The availability of opal at the Tucson Show was significantly less than the year before.
Do you recommend keeping them in an airtight plastic zip bag?
not really, its better to keep them out but make sure not to expose them to any liquids :)
@@oliviagamingsk2442 thanks
Beautiful!
Wooww how Nice all this knowledge and information about my fave stone.. I recently got 3 different pieces at different occasions of Opals from the Jewelry LeVian,.. I was so afraid to choose I didn't know how to choose opals there.. any advice?
You can see our selection of top quality opals on our website here: www.moregems.com/collections/ethiopian-welo-opal-gemstones
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Does a black opal craze? If it does, how do you treat a crazed opal? Are there any welo black opals?"
Wow that is amazing.
There are no more opals in the world today, than there was 100 years ago. Or even 1,000 years ago. In fact I would estimate there is pretty much the same amount. Whether they are up for sale or have already been sold, is another matter entirely. But the actual numbers wont really have changed.
Now, remembering back to the 80's and 90's where the annual theme was to watch the starving Ethiopians on TV, whilst naff bands got together to raise money to send over there. Would it be fair to say that to "buy direct from Ethiopian businesses" and keep the profits in Ethiopia. Rather than businesses from elsewhere in the world who are likely keeping the bulk of any profits to themselves??
Seems to happen in poor countries all over the world where plenty of money is there, just the locals aren't allowed access to it...
Most of the raw stones are bought by India where the cutting is done for cheap labor prices.
only the seam is hundreds of km wide in every direction and there is tons of it on the market 8 years on. It looks good but that's it.
Wow so beautiful.
Doesn't Ethiopian opal turn clear if it gets wet?
There is a type called hydropane , there is a reverse one here that needs to be kept in water to retain the color thats super beautiful too
How come I never see opals in a sphere bead shape? I've always wanted a genuine opal in a 5-8 mm spherical bead but I've only found synthetic ones.
They are out there, we don't have any available, but have seen many.
I am wondering what kind of stone I can get for myself a man being born in October I always want to get my Birthstone please Comment back in let me know thank you so very much
I just cut opals for both my son and myself. We are making rings even though it is a little risky. Pendant would be safer. My son wears a bi color tourmaline crystal as a pendant. Tourmalines come in all colors and are more wearable than opal as a ring. We just purchased a watermelon tourmaline slice that is fairly large and of very nice quality. Will likely be on my sons website soon. “Mineralmike.com
@@Moregems l Thank you very much for that information I will talk to my jeweler
thankyou
what color doublet should be used. is black ok or only opaque white, smokey quartz. thanks again
Black brings out the colors with these most are transparent and are nearly colorless with a white background.
whats price of thid stone
I have Ethiopian opal !
thanks Jusus thankyou woww God at worik in Ethiopia
kalkidan molla Jesus yes God knew what he was doing when he made gemstones and precious metals. The greatest creation was Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior that our sin may be forgiven.
Dude do you know how to stabilize this stone so it won't change color?
No sorry
Hi
I cant find carat prices from ethiopian opal...is there a actual value?
somebody know?
yes we have rough and finished
Ethiopian opal is so abundant, that for any collector, it has lost its rareness and value. Australian opal will always beat Welo opal
The top end of Ethiopian is amazing and a bargain.
Funny thing is, climate changes can affect the appearance of it. I have a few that look one way during the humid summer months, and have a different apprarancr during the winter when the air is dry and crisp.
so 7 years latter after this video has the price gone up or down?
My prices have come down. They were new for me 10 years ago and I thought they were amazing and priced them closer to Australia opals. Found I had to compete with other Ethiopian opals so I lowered my price.
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the beuty full one i have it
Do Welo Black Opals craze?
Edward Zhang so do most women, but we tolerate them too...
Edward Zhang they are smoked and not as likely to craze. Best wishes for you
hello .. what's the price for such stone ? avarage i mean
fadi jawad $50-150 per carat
@@Moregems do u have any site that sales mid price rings with those stones?
is hydrophane more valuable or no
is junk- reject
Australian black opal still looks more beautiful
And Virgin Valley black opal looks even more beautiful than either Ethiopian OR Australian. Wanna see what it looks like? I mined some myself!
For some people even sh!t smeII better than vanilla
Hydrophone opal needs special care. like life itself.
Salam je ma pelle yazid et ja d'or les pyer merci pour la vidéo
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i have some Ethiopian opals what do i need to do for you to cut them
GemsAmerica, unfortunately we do not do any outside cutting work. We created the following video if you want to see how to cab them yourself: czcams.com/video/UGOR_0LmF_4/video.html - You will need the equipment, but if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
RogersGems send them to a lapidary
do you do appraisal
Yes, in store we do. We would need the piece to appraise it.
So black opals that are very small and cost £20.... Any good?
Your showing only the best if i did the same with aussie opal it would be as good if not better. The world agrees Australian opal is the best period!
I love them but hate the deplorable conditions these miners work and live in due to greed. It is sad.
They choose to do it. They love it. And they get paid well. A lot of them feed their families soley mining opals, but a lot of them also do this as a side job for extra income. They dont like it when people complain for them about the working condition because they fear it will put them out of work if enough people complain. They dont want to stop mining opals, they enjoy it. Oh and a lot of them work for themselves and not some mining corporation, and they take what they find to huge markets and sell them for their own profits as well as selling online. This is no different than the miners we have here, except location. They work in similar conditions and they choose to work in mining because they want to and do it because there is big money involved. My evidence is anecdotal, but straight from a miner there who also speaks for every one of his fellow opal miners as well. I buy opal straight from him and his friends and talk to me all the time about how worried they are that there might be regulation put in place that could lessen the amount of work they can perform, which lessens their amount of opal they can mine, which lesse s the amount of money they could make. Some are hearing rumors that they might be put out of work entirely because ofthe possibility of having a mandatory license to be able to mine their own opals etc. Please, i urge you to actually talk to the people doing the work before automatically assuming they are being enslaved or forced to work in bad conditions etc. It will just spread the false narrative more and will lead to heavy regulations they didnt ask for and could put a lot of these people out of a means to provide for their families.
If you actually go down in the comments, you will see quite a few of these people telling everyone how happy they are about the boom in thr opal buisness etc.
As far as I know this opal is very fracture prone. Of course, you can buy high quality rough for big money, but much of what you get on ebay, for instance, is not very high quality.
Dennis Hastings
The only time this material from Welo is fracture prone is during the cutting processes. After cutting it is rare to fracture. Material from Mazzeso in Ethiopia is another story as it is unstable.
The only time this material from Welo is fracture prone is during the cutting processes. After cutting it is rare to fracture. Material from Mazzeso in Ethiopia is another story as it is unstable.
Wait what???? Better than Australian???? Noooooo. But yeah it's still really cool opal.
sounds like people can mess with this to much from being a real opal. Definitely don't like it being milky.
John H It’s as real as it gets and if you don’t like milky Ethiopian is the right opal for you.
They killed howie thoe. That’s bad energy
My birthstone also opel..
And i love this... But i don't have..
I wanat orignal opel not big small but orignal.
someone suggest me to waer 14 career opal gemstone according to my rashi Kumbh/Meen.......its suitable for me or not
Sorry, but I don't understand your question.
If you need opals we cut them
Your site is so expensive
SunRise SunRise There are tons of low to medium quality Welo opal on the market at very reasonable prices but the finest material is of limited availability and commands higher prices. I choose to deal in finer material that commandsprices in the. $50 to $90 per carat and somThere are tons of low to medium quality Welo opal on the market at very reasonable prices but the finest material is of limited availability and commands higher prices. I choose to deal in finer material that commands prices in the. $50 to $90 per carat and sometimes even higher for extra ordinarily specimens
SunRise SunRise There are tons of low to medium quality Welo opal on the market at very reasonable prices but the finest material is of limited availability and commands higher prices. I choose to deal in finer material that commandsprices in the. $50 to $90 per carat and somThere are tons of low to medium quality Welo opal on the market at very reasonable prices but the finest material is of limited availability and commands higher prices. I choose to deal in finer material that commands prices in the. $50 to $90 per carat and sometimes even higher for extra ordinarily specimens
welo opal are the best in the world, australian can say what they wont
A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE THAN THE AUSTRALIAN OPAL!!!! THE ONLY REASON IT IS CALLED AN OPAL ....IS BECAUSE OF THE ASSORTMENT OF COLORS IN EACH STONE!!!!
want to buy a clear solid 24 gram chunk with amazing color play?
Not currently.
24 grams would be too big.. However I have 15 cts to 20 cts.
Thanks for not giving us a real price and value, so why even create a video to try and sell us on a product that we don't know if we're buying at a good price or overpaying, waste of time watching folks
Bryan Bressem Go to moregems.com if you want to see prices.