Ruby Franke’s Husband ‘Believes His Son’ About Abuse Claims Against YouTube Mom: Attorney
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2023
- The attorney representing Ruby Franke’s estranged husband, Kevin Franke, sat down with the Law&Crime Network’s Sierra Gillespie in Provo, Utah. Randy Kester said he thinks “it’s apparent to Kevin” that the abuse happened and he “believes his son and the reports that were given to law enforcement.” Kester also gave insights into how involved Jodi Hildebrandt, whose home the 12-year-old boy escaped from, was in the Franke’s lives.
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This is BS. The father was on all of those 8 passengers videos happily sending his son to wilderness misery camp, canceling Christmas for his little ones, etc. He saw his wife treating his kids like garbage and he was right there next to her the entire time. This is a pathetic excuse coming from the defense attorney. He made plenty of money off of his kids on CZcams, and now he wants them back? He needs to go to jail for negligence.
@marisapolesky You speak the truth!
I Agee. I watched him on CZcams talking why he wanted to take Christmas from the kids, made me sick, so I never watched them again. That lawyer doesn't know what his talking about. I hope and pray that the police get the evidence to arrest him.
It looked like he took great joy in reading Chad's text message exchange to the world between him and his love interest.
Those kids need to be far away from all of them
Well Said 👌
All three adults are responsible for what happened to the children. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Absolutely.. Now you know that Ruby is also gonna blame it on Jodi too
Unfortunately no. The person or people who bound and starved him are.
Everyone is complicit here
THATS RIGHT👏🏽
No. Thankfully, you're absolutely wrong. @@brandib2821
He believes his son?! You mean the emaciated 12 year old with duct tape around his wrists and ankles, and open infected rope lacerations down into the muscle? That son? Wow, what a guy. Such a show of faith to believe his hospitalised son over the abusers that put him there. Give Kevin Father of the Year Award now, the competition is over. 😡😢
Yes as if that was a question of belief !
This! Couldn't have said it better. Especially now that we know more about the severity. So sad and absolutely maddening.
A loving dad does not abandon his children for a year, even if it means losing his marriage. I feel so sorry for these kids.
Right, now he swoops in when the shizz goes down. I feel sorry for them as well and am so grateful the young boy was brave enough to escape and smart enough to tell the man to call the police.
It might not have been his choice. I've seen many cases of parental alienation, especially coming from women in Utah. This could have been one of them, who knows.
@@LucianaFerreiraHervey He doesn't claim parental alienation caused by his wife though. On the contrary, he says " he was following the advice of who he thought was a professional mental health expert telling him to stay away, the only way to save his family was to stay apart from his family"
@@LucianaFerreiraHervey stop making excuses for him, the courts weren’t even involved. Nobody was keeping him from his kids except himself. So tired of people minimizing his role in this.
@@LucianaFerreiraHervey nah as someone who watches their channel from way back, he is very much an enabler in the past
Please stop calling this irresponsible human a “good dad”.
Hey, I noticed he said he WAS a good dad. And also said he loved, past tense, his children. I thought that was strange.
You are using the word “human” there very loosely.
that is his attorney of course he will say that, I feel he knew all of it was going on and just left but love the money coming in from the channel !
@@SaltySultana...Thats how the law works, unfortunately.
Came here to say this exactly. How disgusting.
But this behavior has been ongoing for years, not months. The father is absolutely culpable.
He does not have free agency as it is very obvious here.
I agree ! It’s sickening that Kevin’s attorney’s statements are being aired on many platforms
Kevin needs to be investigated as well
He did nothing while his oldest son slept on a beanbag (took bed away) for 7 months.
He also did nothing when she starved her kids for not doing their chores yet.
@@katieh40077 : 👍
“Loved my children”
*proceeded to participate in food denial and makes them sleep on the floor and treat them like trash and then abandons them for over a year*
Such a loving father right?
I watched a clip of her making her kids sleep on the floor when they had the stomach flu, it was like she enjoyed their suffering. He was there the whole time. It is mental and physical abuse and they have video evidence of his compliance.
The father should be charged too.
A dad that has “a strong bond with his kids” doesn’t just abandon them for over a year. NO EXCUSE
Word.
Tell that to Adam Steed.
So true
@@tintinismybelgian Adam didn’t abandon his kids for months. He saw them anyway he could even when he was required to have supervised visits. He never voluntarily didn’t see them because he was asked to.
@@tintinismybelgian I'm not saying the same thing might not have happened in this case as in Adam Steed's, but that doesn't change the fact that this guy just agreed to go no contact.
Soooo… we’re all meant to forget he co-signed his son sleeping on a bean bag for 7 months, sending him to a camp for “troubled teens”, took away their kids Christmas and top of all that, he’s now using his neglect of his kids as a defence.
He basically "disowned" them - abandoned them - turned away from them - discarded them. At least, that's how it looks, Kevin. You need to know that and take responsibility for it.
He is totally spineless
There were no signatures
@@jeremysmith9694That makes a REAL big difference to his children......who had to be more than perfect while their parents settled for, whatever?🙄🙄🙄
Right, he knew what was going on, he's just as bad.
As a divorced father of 4. I would never agree not to see my kids for even a day. And I would never tell my ex she couldn't see her children whenever she wants.
The fact that he didn't fight everyday to see his kids discusts me.
The fact that he has to fight to prove to the court he should have custody is telling that there is more to his story.
Spot on Sir!! 1000% agree.
@@PoreStarEsti (spellcheck failed me)
@@patarmitage2250 spell check failure aside, your message is not only clear but also correct
Spell check failed you and my eyes failed me lol. I had to make corrections🥴🤣
But it wasn’t jus ruby and Jodi keeping him away. It was the Mormon church along with their involvement within the state of Utah
The father was complicit with the behavior his wife exhibited towards the children for years! I was watching their YT channel many years ago and he was in complete agreement with his wife's sociopathic parenting methods. He is just as responsible if not more for allowing this horror to continue for as long as it did. Shame on him!
He made an irresponsible decision to not monitor his children’s safety and welfare for that long.
Because he's abusive. If he's out of the house and stays quiet, he hopes he won't be implicated fir the abuses that he did for years before he was out of the house
Neglect I think is the word.
I do t li,e any of them , but my husband only punched a time clock when I had kids . He didn't care about how the kids were . Or me . I'm still here , he just cares about himself . Narc , I'm sure . They can't care
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THE FATHER JUST WALKED AWAY AND DID NOT CHECK ON HIS CHILDREN NOW IT SEEMS LIKE HE WANTS TO PLAY THE VICTIM...LIKE HE KNEW NOTHING...SMH
Kevin, you were there when Chad was sent to wilderness camp. You were there when food was removed from the pantry and dishes were reduced to one cup, one plate etc for each person so Ruby wouldn't have dishes to do. She didn't want extra food in the house. Shari is practically neurotic with being the perfect daughter, sister, student. You were there when Chad was denied a bed. You were there when their privacy was taken away. Kevin, accept responsibility and man up!
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Piece of crap! Arrest him too!!!!!
The dishes is just about lessening washing dishes.........
"💯"agree
“He was a great dad.” What a bold faced lie. The children are the victims of an abusive mother and neglectful father. Neither of these narcissists deserves to have those innocent children. I hope that the kids get the psychological help they need. Very sad story.
I hope the kids have a say in what happens.
even in the videos yall notice he was always more off to the side anyways or just with ruby 🤦♀️
Yeah, I don't buy the 'great dad' narrative. Those poor kids were just thrown to the wolves
@@margaretlumley1648 they're going to have to deep dive this one psychologically. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that.
He was there too !!! We’ve all seen him in those videos while they discuss those disgusting punishments and sending their son away then taking his bed for 7 months after he got home . He also was with her discussing taking the 2 younger kid’s Christmas from them as punishment. He’s just as guilty and I’m sick of hearing lies from his attorney!
I don’t know why not seeing your kids for a year and half is a defense. He’s confessing to neglect.
Right? Even if he is not guilty, he is negligent.
This. I’d think that alone could work against him. Add to that he is still in touch with his wife. It would be terrible if he got custody then proceeded to take them to visit their abuser in prison. That could be devastating to the children, psychologically.
He hasn't been charged because he wasn't there . Ruby never claimed abandonment , as no one filed for divorce. So he would need an indictment.
He reminds me of my ex. He married someone else and didn't contact us and his wife now admits it. But he was having trouble in school and he had the nerve to fully blame me! No pal I think not having his dad being an adolescent and with no word from you! The narcissism is strong with these parents! BOTH parents! 😊 his wife wouldn't allow him to visit because she was jealous of me!
@@candaceewell9582 my hubby only went to work and home to drink never got involved in my kids life , hit me when I got upset, trained me to not need him , kids good today of course they ran to good jobs school , military . He still here , can't not text me from work . 3 hrs of nasty stuff . Narcs only care about making you respond to them , meet there needs . I don't need him , he needs me . He bragged he was a functioning alcoholic, but kids won't come around, he made me like him for a bit . I learned . He s not functioning .
I don't believe him for one second. She was withholding food and other necessities from their children even when they were together. This isn't about his kids, this is about his reputation.
I think he got fired from his job. The reviews from his students gives light to how he was
I honestly feel like he may be seeking revenge on the kids for getting this all out there for the world to know
Thank You that's what I said.
Yes!! That is exactly what I commented before even scrolling to yours. Absolutely right!! He is just as guilty
I'm sure the children will be questioned as well as to what went on while they were all together too. You never leave your kids for a year or so and not have contact with them. You have a responsibility to your kids.
They are both going to blame Jody and say everything is her fault. They are going to state that they are the victims in all of this when the kids are really the victims. Makes me sick!
That won't wash in a courtroom, to much evidence prior.
The mom still allowed it to happen 😢
Let's ask the children if they want their father taking custody.
Amen. The only reasonable response I've seen
So he’s blaming Jodi but not Ruby. I don’t think he’s safe. His kids need to not be with him. He doesn’t make good parenting choices.
Exactly
I think the idea is that, it wasn’t as bad until Jodi came. Like, even though the video were bad, it could always get worse and that’s what happened.
There’s reviews about her counseling to other couples that mirrors what happened between Jodi and Kevin that were posted years ago. She loves to isolate and brainwash the women against their husbands
@@BabyGirlTiny She also threatened to ruin men and had done so in a good number of cases.
@@loralieisa And I hope ALL of these Men come out of the Woodwork to point fingers at Jodi.
@@BabyGirlTinyAnd that is exactly why he shouldn’t get custody. He doesn’t think their parenting style is problematic. He is not going to change.
The 12 yr son is a hero 💕✝️
That’s what I keep saying
and yet Ruby and Jodi are trying to drag him down with their overused false accusation of SA
Absolutely agree!!!
He really is. I truly hope he's okay and him and his siblings are safe and in loving homes (I believe they separated them due to mommy dearest's accusations, but I could be wrong). Much blessings and healing to them. This breaks my heart because people on YT have been calling this out for a while now.
He is opening up the whole thing and the ppp loans!! Hopefully family vloggers are held responsible
Yeah, Jodi destroyed his family SO MUCH that he moved out and left his kids there. He knew EXACTLY what was going on. She didn’t just start acting crazy when after he left, it didn’t just start overnight. He knew what was going on and STILL left his kids there. He’s just as responsible!!😡😡😡
Why didn't the father demand to see his kids!!!! That's just wrong. Prayers and hugs for these kids! The son is a hero 🙏❤️
Who needs a father who fails to see you for over a year?
Seeing them previous to that did not do the kids any good, either.
He literally was in the house during her videos where she would deprive the children food.
HE IS A LIAR!!
Uh, I guess you haven't heard of 'parent alienation'?
Agreed. I guess he didn't care that abandoning your children is emotional harm. Just sending money & not caring about their feelings is inexcusable.
Yes notice Shari the only sensible one avoids the father
The fact that he will not condemn what his wife and Jodi did to his children, tells you that he DOES NOT need to have custody of the children, period.
Excellent point.
bs ... he isn't speaking to his wife... he don't support her... he's been duped thru religious bs.... he's not gonna b duped again... all energy is laser focused on kids... not u nor I.
@@dulcieparker7425 Compare this fathering to Al Stauch, who worked with the FBI to make bait phone calls to his wife when his son was missing
Hopefully, the kids go to a loving family members
I was very annoyed by Steve Gonçalvez in the beginning of the investigation of the Idaho 4. That is a father. And he is making noise, louder and louder. And I love the guy, he is a father in pain, he is protecting his daughter even after death. Again, he is father that will stop on nothing to see justice.
Everytime I hear that man cry on the phone to the police operator, just truly hurts my heart for him to see that little boy all chained up 😓
A total stranger had compassion that these kids’ mother didn’t. Let that sink in. 😢
I would love to hear from the oldest daughter who is estranged from family. There has to be reasons connected to all of what’s been happening.
so he didn’t want the court hearings to be public because that’s harmful to the kids but he was okay with violating the kids privacy for years by vlogging them?
But he was being PAID...... now he isnt.
He is vile
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@@ArtistCreekI was thinking that… he wanted to mend his marriage because Ruby was making A LOT of money?? 😒
The children tried to contact him during his absence but he blocked them. If your kids need you, you are there for them, no matter what your „therapist“ tells you. The kids always come first, not your wife, not anything else. That’s why he’s responsible, too.
Yes, but it seems that Ruby came first for him, and the money he made off of exploiting their children.
Where does it say he blocked his kids? Did Shari say that?
@@sansajune8004 yes Shari said that
@@ninastanek3388where did she say that???
@@ninastanek3388I think Ruby blocked Kevin's calls. Ruby controlled the kids phones.
The reason why Kevin and Ruby haven’t had “the conversation” about the crime she committed is because they both know it’s true. It’s not simply because he believes his son that this happened, he knows that it did because it happened with him in the home. He partook in this and I hope someday soon the “sweet loving father who wants his family back together” act drops and he joins his wife.
Those poor children must be so unbelievably confused and scared.
He’s an awful father & shouldn’t be given custody! Any father who doesn’t see or talk to his kids for over a year is a POS, plain & simple!
He got kicked out of Jody's cult, which had a hold of Ruby and thus the children... it's not as simple as just if he wants to see his kids or not.
Welp so Adam steed shouldn’t see his kids because he didn’t see his kids either for a prolonged time…
Make sure to be consistent
Well said 👏
@@irishandscottish1829Use your critical thinking skills. These are not the same situations. It’s pretty clear that this commenter is referring to when it is a CHOICE of the father.
It's really not as simple as wanting to be involved or not. If Ruby was restricting his access to the kids how is that his fault? Remember he was also assigned to Judy for "therepy" and we all know what she does.
He still is accountable for what happened. Now he tries to cover himself up with blame of others and lies...
He's a coward ...
They are all going to point fingers at one another and they are all culpable!
No, he's not.
@@TheSejiWhat an articulate response. You sure schooled us.
It’s so hard to see clips and photos of sweet baby boy russel. He reminds me so much of my own son and I cannot fathom treating my sweet exuberant smart boy the way ruby treated that boy. I hope one day when Russel is out of this mud he recognizes how strong special and wonderful he is. There’s nothing he could have ever done to deserve any of this.
All the adults who were in charge of these children are awful & should be jailed.
I think this lawyer is not doing any favors to his client by making easily disprovable claims about Kevin “the wonderful father he always has been”. Hmmmmm….
Couldn’t agree more! Also, the way he speaks is just so unsure. Almost incompetent. I wouldn’t want him to represent me in such an important matter
True. I was thinking the same
Exactly. His abusive behavior was on video for years that a lot of the globe witnessed.
He had me laughing (humorless) when he said “great dad” 🤮
LAWYER WILL BE A LAWYER BUT THERE IS MORE TO THIS I FEEL BOTH PARENTS AND LADY ARE ALL GUILTY
He even blocked his kids on his phone!! They couldn't even call their father!! Who does that?! A good parent does not do any of the things he has done.
how do you know this?
His older daughter Shari shared this on a podcst a few months ago.@@gabiiipot
@@gabiiipotI believe I saw Kevin’s lawyer say it in another interview I saw. Ruby told Kevin he had to block the kid’s numbers because “no contact” was the only way they could eventually get their family back together and mend the marriage... 🙄 I suspect she didn’t want the kids calling him because they might tell him how awful things had gotten for them with Ruby and Jodi. Just my suspicion. It makes me sick. He failed his children.
@@JackieOlantern yes! His lawyer was the one that said that. Thank you.
He's just as guilty for letting it happen. Poor babies have been betrayed by everyone. So sad...
If someone has been „brainwashed“, it’s the parents! Ruby and Kevin were the ones responsible for the sanity of the family and especially of the children. No kid in that family is responsible for what had happened. It’s easy to now say “I had no idea”!
The weird patterns and things they did with parenting their children, has been there even before someone named “Jody” entered their life! In my opinion, he is guilty too. Maybe not as severe as Ruby but definitely he is definitely complicit.
Also, the young boy reached out to neighbors-not his father. That alone says it
All.
My God, the neighbor’s voice was cracking with emotion when he called 911…
I think the son had no means to call his dad. I mean he was bound and escaped so... but I think even if he had the chance he certainly would not call his dad....
@@nevaehschattenfluegel9652 The kids had been taken 2.5 hours away from their father, so he went to the nearest neighbor. We don't know if he even had access to a phone or his father's number.
@@gointothedogs4634 that's what I was saying? The son had no means to contact his father?! As the son obviously was bound it is unlikely he had any access to a phone in the house he was held captive and obviously he ran to the nearest safe space. Even if the house of the father would have been 10min by foot, I'm quite sure the son would have gone to the nearest neighbour.
He might not have known his father's phone number, his father was 300 miles away. The kids were alone at Jodie's house, she and ruby were 300 miles away at Ruby's house when they got arrested
Someone else said in the comments the children did try reaching out to him and he blocked them. Whether or not that is true, he does not deserve those children and should be in jail alongside those other two criminals
14 months he voluntarily walked away from his 4 kids he left behind. And now all of a sudden Ruby’s and Jodie’s spell over him has magically been broken? I’m not buying it. I understand he might not have known how bad things had got but he walked away with no questions asked. who does that? 🤯
A lot of Mormons men have and would do this sadly! It’s a problem with how we are brainwashed! Anyone else asking why so much is coming out of Utah lately! THE LDS CHURCH IS A CULT born & raised MY OPINION MATTERS! I feel so bad for these kids!
She told him to go,
Oh but it is 100% possible especially if it’s coming from a cult, Jody had a lot of pull because of there church, Frankie was smitten by Jody and Jody manipulated her and manage to push the husband away,
If your partner of that many years told you to walk away from your marriage and children take the oldest so and that you could have zero contact with any of the others left behind? Would you do that? And be told this was all to repair the marriage?
@@annaheeldawes8608 no I wouldn’t! I’m just trying to offer a insight on MORmON upbringing! In my opinion it’s the extreme ones! But they exist!
So sad for these children. I hope they are able to recover in a safe environment from now on. I can't imagine putting a child through starvation. That's ao cruel!
There are no excuses for any adult to abandon their children and all the responsibilities of parenthood.
Come on. Kevin Franke feels betrayed??????!!!!!!!! There is no word that he worries about his kids. He has betrayed THEM. And he doesn't want to drive 200 miles to go to hearings???????!!!!!!!! Any normal man would want to see her suffer for doing this to his children. And he hasn't said anything to his wife about what she did?????!!!!!!!! He is disgusting. A man who wasn't guilty would want to have at that woman. He is guilty too. The three of them should be in prison together. Those poor children. All his lawyer has to say is that Kevin knows nothing and feels betrayed. Who cares about Kevin and the other two monsters. They are just getting more attention. What about these children. Who cares about them?
Yeah he has no 🏀🏀
spineless people.
Any REAL MAN would go and stay as close to the courts and kids that he could. Sleep in your truck ACTUALLY SACRIFICE for your kids you say you love
Yes he has i heard the recorded phonecall
A father doesn't go months and years without seeing his minor children and not stand culpable. This is BS. Kevin is as morally responsible as Ruby.
The only thing is that Jodi has a pattern of convincing parents that they should separate and that the father should not have contact with the kids and wife because they are somehow a negative influence. She was a qualified therapist so people believed what she was telling them.
@@powderandpaint14I’d like to think that if the church wasn’t involved more people would’ve question her about duct taping kids to beds!
It worries me that he doesn’t see the way he was a part of parenting before he left, as toxic, when it clearly was. He was also part of negative parenting traits BEFORE Jodi was ever in the picture
The eldest daughter said help should have come YEARS ago…….years …he’s a disgusting “ father “
to me, Kevin is just as guilty!!! He knew what was
going on that something was t right!!! shame on him!
If he was blocked from contacting them why didn't he get a lawyer and go to court then??
I just can't believe that the father would not confront her about the children. It was more important to him that he was betrayed. This is just sad.
These horrible parents do not deserve those kids. Absolutely not.
This infuriates me. I am so disgusted by these people. No, the dad should not get custody! Take those children far away from them!!
I am glad you are not a judge in this case.
that may hurt the children even more. Do what is best for the children not what makes other people feel vindicated.e
You are absolutely correct, and everyone with a modicum of sanity, compassion and knowledge of psychology agrees with you. Of course, there are still a few people here who defend Kevin and who think that those children MUST be retraumatized and endagered, because to them, no matter how involved in the abu*e he was over the years and how neglectful he was afterwards, as a man, a mormon and a biological father Kevin Franke is entitled to the custody of those children. The first priority is to control and indoctrinate them, rather that to help them heal and to love them. The children need to obey the father, no matter how hurt and traumatized they are.
Common sense or humanity are far less important to these people than the LDS principles of complete control. All in the name of Jesus and Joseph Smith, of course.
@@gaiagreen2690 Please stay out of court.
I am not defending the father and I believe that an angry and/or biased person is unqualified to make an evaluation in a custody case.
@@Ai_GenX Being angry at the child abu*e or neglect does NOT mean being unjust. It means we care about the welfare of the children.
I absolutely do not believe that Frankie was just your average mom but got “hypnotized” by Hildebrand and suddenly became evil, there is just no way
I also find it very hard to believe the husband had absolutely no clue what was going on
Then why is he the only person Frankie called after being arrested?
Also, why doesn’t he have his kids back already?
He is the father after all, why are they kept with social services?
That’s just weird
Father of the year, ladies and gentlemen! Now, abandonment is a legitimate defense for deadbeat fathers.
The dad’s lawyer seems to really be enjoying the media attention from this case. Not many attorneys go on tv and talk about a family case so openly. This father is in my opinion is very submissive. He didn’t see his kids because his wife said so? Wtf? Nobody will ever tell me I can’t see my kids. He has no nads.
The Mormon church takes those as soon as you join.
Agree! I’ve been completely disgusted by the PR campaign the lawyer has been running for this man. There may well be charges forthcoming for the father and the lawyer is, in my opinion, attempting to sway public opinion in favor of his client. I wish this BS was illegal for a lawyer to do outside of the courtroom. Why can’t Kevin speak for himself? If he’s innocent, what’s he afraid of?
Right? I didnt think you were even allowed to talk about a case thats still in court let alone give interviews everywhere
@@thisaccount765he's very smart to have his attorney speak
It’s the ONLY hand he has to play.
“An exceptionally strong bond with all his kids”
“Hasn’t spoken to his children in 12 months”
I personally don't think he should get his kids back early but if you look what she did to other men in her counseling by convincing them they were a danger to their family you might be a bit more sympathetic
That is laughable
@@kelleygreengrassthis. If people would do more research on Jodi’s history, they wouldn’t be so judgemental.
Did you watch the video? Kinda evident you didn't....
@@Bubblegum12345 oh my god y’all need to learn wtf a joke is Jesus 😭😭🤣🤣
Kevin has zero excuse! A real loving father fights for his children!!
No no no he should not get custody of those kids .. if he does it should be supervised for a long time !
He had no contact, did not check on the children, in my book that makes him a deadbeat Dad. And no amount of denying what he did or did not know, doesn't make him innocent.
Helen, you nailed it with that expression: DEADBEAT DAD. Exactly what he is. a "deadbeat dad" usually describes a man who runs out on his financial obligations to his family. In this case, the deadbeat ran out on his moral obligations.
Kevin is trying to avoid sharing blame for abu$e by fake caring for his kids. What father goes a year not seeing kids he loves. I call BS on Kevin
No way I’m spending a year without seeing and talking with my children…
Has no one considered that maybe Kevin was too afraid of what Ruby would do if he snitched
HE GETS NO PASS. HE ABANDONED HIS MINOR CHILDREN FOR WAY TOO LONG. 14 MONTHS? HE GAVE AWAY HIS RIGHTS.
she wore the pants
@@lizajean8and?
Totally agree. He seriously just swallowed the whole separation to work on the marriage? Separate to reconcile? That seems backwards to me to work on the marriage you don’t walk away for 14 months with supposedly zero contact. Sounds fishy to me. Also the last time this lawyer spoke he said that all parties had agreed that none of them was going to speak Ill of the others. Well that didn’t last long.
He literally was in the house during her videos where she would deprive the children food.
HE IS A LIAR!!
Both of their protectors turned their backs. So sad
A great dad wouldn't sit back and put up with not seeing his children. I call BS. Good grief.
I’ve been following this case closely. Even dissected their video before this awful situation happened. And I’ll say this, Rubys husband is a battered man. From they way he talks, to the way he stares into space waiting for Ruby to give the okay to speak. I know a battered man when I see one. I know a victim of manipulation when I see one. I know someone with undiagnosed mental health problems when I see one and he checks all the bells and whistles. I know we wanna blame him because he is an adult, and regardless of anything, he is responsible for part of this situation for not stepping up soon to protect these kids. But if you watch their videos and you focus on him, you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about when I say this man just existed in her world and followed orders. Then whenever he would speak and and put his foot down with some things, she would say that their having marital problems… I’m not saying he’s innocent by any means, but between the cult like religion & a narcissist wife and her gal pal, these kids AND this man didn’t stand a chance.
I have to agree.
I agree completely, minus the cult religion.
The religion they belong to is not a cult. However this organization Jody started IS a cult.
@@LisaPFramptonMormon, born and raised here. Would you like me to tell you about how when I was 12, I was baptized in the name of dead people at one of their temples? That only scratches the surface. I had to be a virgin for that to happen. It absolutely checks many boxes that would qualify it as a cult.
The neighbour that called the cops is more of a man than this so called father
Yep
“Narcissist!” - what a partner yells when they’re losing an argument.
Each of the Franke children needs a court appointed legal advocate!
But not LDS.
That is typically what happens in Utah. Each child will receive a court appointed advocate.
Ruby is the worst mother, and Kevin is the worst father. Dont give the kids back to him. He walked out on them.
3:53 I could only imagine what abusive things she was shouting here. This is heartbreaking.
he stood by while ruby refused to bring their 6 year old lunch, took away their sons bedroom, and so much more. he still needs to be held accountable
See, if the mother/father of my child ever says "you have to stay away from your kids (and me) to work on our marriage" that would be an immediate nope. Nothing should keep a parent from their kids.
I am not saying it is right, but when you have a cult as powerful as the LDS, and Utah is a "mother" state, I think the dad listened to ruby and Jodi too much...but if you haven't been in that situation, you have no idea how hard it is.
@@justagirlnamedshawn have to agree here, some situations are extremely delicate
"an immediate nope" I like that
What caring Father goes over a year without seeing his children. I hope the court keeps the children away from him and his wife.
These children are now in better care and safer than they've been in years.
More than one family could write a book about how this woman destroyed their families. She gets off on having the power to control others.
Insane how the husband is acting like a victim. Just goes to prove that BOTH parents were/are not fit.
He “believes his son”, well who WOULDN’T, given the child was starving and duct taped! Hopefully he believes the daughter too. I wonder if he has not talked to Ruby, knowing those conversations would probably be recorded.
Exactly. Believing his son is an attempt to be the good guy
I can’t imagine the husband did not know or did not understand what happened. He has not seen his children for a year? What an unnatural parent he must be. “Great dad” does not behave in this way. Stinky case!
What kind of Father would willingly not see his children for a year to save his marriage? This has got to be the strangest parenting ever...hard to believe anyone could be brain washed to this level of thinking..but we do know it absolutely happens in Cults... it's just criminal...PERIOD!
I call BS. The dad knew exactly what was going on , for him to supposedly not seeing his kids for 14 months is actually insane. He seen Ruby keep food away from these kids in old family videos. The dad is just as much to blame.
"Oh I didn't know she was harming my kids" says the guy to enable her actions, putting his older son to a wilderness camp, humiliating said older son about a girl he likes by reading the text messages, and then suddenly "didn't know" about the situation
We need laws that say putting your kids on CZcams is a form of child exploitation!
This father could have retained a lawyer when he was first told to leave the house. He could have taken Ruby to court to get visitations with his kids. There is no excuse! He abandoned these kids.
Nope. If you don’t see your children for a year you are not putting them first. That’s the only way this country heals and changes…if children come first in all situations.
Would you say the same to Adam Steed, one of Hildebrandt's previous victims of manipulation?
@@tintinismybelgian that’s a good point I definitely think it’s complicated and there was massive manipulation happening. Thanks for pointing that out.
Right. So you're asking for the dad to ALSO be removed from society and wanting these kids to go into foster care???
I bet you wouldn’t be saying the same if the woman was alienated by the father…
Like the other person said will you say the same to Adam steed?!?
@@crypton_8l87yes, at this point the kids needed a foster parents. Not even family members should be allowed to care for them. They are all from Mormonism. They are weird.
What kind of man just walks away from their own kids and knows nothing about what's going on. Absolute rubbish. He's as guilty as the other two
This lawyer has such a nice demeanor, is open and seema to have a good heart.
No accountability whatsoever
Ruby was always a cruel mother looking for bad acts to punish. She wasn’t brainwashed, she was just reinforced in her horrible behavior toward her children. If Kevin wants to be a good parent he needs to get away from Ruby for good and at the very least take a lot of parenting classes
Ruby is evil.
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I agree.
Absolutely! Any further contacts with that wytch is his complete downfall. Why hasn't he filled for divorce!?
I've always said you can't teach someone to care. You either do or don't. He didn't mind taking away food, homework, bed to sleep on, privacy, friends. He needs to go to prison along with his wife... to female prison for having no balls.
What a poor excuse 12months ! It's inexcusable... his attorney reiterating this only implicates him in complacency and culpability 😢
14 months.
This is ridiculous. You can't just be told by someone "Hey you need to stop paying your debts I am telling you so" and then stop paying your debts and expect creditors to accept that as an excuse for not carrying out your legal responsibilities of paying your debts... this is even more so the case when it involves the legal and moral esponsibility of caring for your own children?
Will the trial be broadcasted? Bc I wanna see their faces as everything unfolds
Neither "man" is willing to drive 250 miles to court ??!!
I caught that too!!!! Another example of what a piece of 💩he is. Those kids need to be together, away from ALL family members. They’ve been traumatized and need time to decompress. Then gently be questioned and counseled by non LDS professionals
I think the court sessions are brief date setting sessions of which he will learn from his lawyer anyways. Also think the lawyer advised him to stay far away until things get underway.
Why is no one talking about when Kevin took Christmas away from these two specific children last year?
There's no way Dad was deceived
He knew about everything and chose to go alongside his dominant Wife
Unstable marriage, fired from his university position, had not seen his kids for a year, not looking good for him.
he has an uphill battle. even in the youtube videos, he let his wife do her things on the kids. it's not just because of Jodi.
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Exactly
Jodi was counselling them since 2015.
Kevin should be charged and kept away from those children.
After listening to the interviews of Adam Paul Steed and Jodi’s niece, Jessi Hildebrandt, I am convinced that Jodi is truly the mastermind and is capable of brainwashing her clients and destroying families. Not giving Ruby a pass, or even Kevin, but I do believe Jodi’s manipulation is powerful enough to convince a father to stay away from his family in order to “heal” it.
Exactly.. I had shared the opinion of most people here - but all changed when I listened to the long Adam Paul Interview. I guess most of the people commenting don’t know about Adam‘s story yet, which is actually quite similar to what may happened in this case.
After Adam's and Jesse's interviews I agree with you. I was convinced Johnny Depp was the abuser against Amber, because men usually are, until I watched the entire trial and caught other videos that had been withheld from the jury. Now I'm withholding judgement against Kevin until we know the truth about him.
Yes. But he already played a part in belittling them on CZcams and signed off Ruby withholding food as punishment before Jodi entered the scene. Those kids deserve better.
I also finding myself wondering if the Mormon Church has something to do with why they are pushing trial to be kept private and also why Kevin isn’t speaking. After watching Adam Paul Steed’s interview I’m just very skeptical- because Jodi is a therapist the the church has been recommending for years.
Disagree. Sounds like Jodi might have been the fuel, but Ruby had the fire before Jodi came along - this is evident in her videos. It just got more extreme when Jodi came in the picture.
Since he returned to the family Kevin threatened to call law enforcement on his kids for removing papers. Why shouldn't they? Where was he?
I don’t understand how he didn’t know this was happening to the kids. He obviously wasn’t in touch with his kids.
Also, I’d drive across the country to ensure that everything was being done to support the court activities and try to get my kids back.
Right! The lawyer said they didnt want to drive to the hearings!!! WTAF!! That says everything. Lazy pos father should be in jail.
@@ArtistCreekYep. He should have done something
Right? The lawyer’s statement about the hearings shows that he *still* doesn’t give an f about anything that’s going on or what happens 😡🤬
I know! That made me so mad. @@ArtistCreek
In my opinion, they only want the case not to be public because they don’t want people to find out just how depraved they all are. Kevin included. They’re not trying to protect the kids, their trying to protect their image
Yeah and they don’t want the public to know how bad it really was
I think you mean "depraved".
@@marthawoodworth I did. Edited to fix it. Thanks i
totally agree....fits right in with cover ups that seem to continually happen with a certain group of people
@@jenniferw5087I agree 👍 😢
It’s totally absurd that any mental health professional would tell a father to stay away from his children for a year with absolutely zero contact. Even if some Kwak of a doctor said that, what father would listen to that advice? Somethings not adding up!
A great dad doesn't let that happen to his children.