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Ritchey debuts new Montebello Randonneur frame at Sea Otter!
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Montebello is very popular road in Silicon Valley (where Ritchey is) that everyone compares times on, and that connects to an open space preserve at the top with some fire road and single track. This is a great set up for it, especially with fenders in the winter.
Nice! Thank you for the local knowledge and nexus on the model name.
I just looked it up. PJamm says it is 5.2 miles at 7.3% with some steep ramps. Sounds fun!
It's a nice ride, basically 2 climbs with a flat section in the middle and some shade. There are steeper grades in the area but this one you don't have to ride your brakes on the downhill. Not many cars since no through traffic.
Nice move from Ritchey. They had a similar concept of fork on the WCS CARBON TAPERED ADVENTURE GRAVEL FORK. Too bad it doesn’t come stock with the Outback/Outback breakaway.
Regarding Tyre clearance as I comment on other video, they need to pass iso4210 norm which demands 6mm space for the stated clearance ,
So normally you can always fit a bigger Tyre than what is stated.
Regarding bigger head tube vs spacers, normally you shouldn’t have more 4cm of spacers (it may vary from brand to brand).
Do you think we will ever see again any vbrake/canti bike from Ritchey? What most annoys me on my Outback is the disks.
Hello Skinnie - the Outback has extra bosses on the sides fork max payload is 3 kg. Yes correct it is usually 30mm of maximum spacers below the stem. When I said I like to play with the height of my bars I meant working within those 3cm not more. I can literally make any bike work. People that need a specific geometry and nothing else is baffling to me. For bike brands anything other than discs is considering going backwards in technology. You and I know that isn’t true but I would not expect V or Canti ever again. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Thanks George!
Thanks to you, I finally got with the program and I ordered a frame set that I have been pondering for at least a year. None too soon either, as it was the last 920 frame set in size 56 that Trek had left in their Wisconsin warehouse.
Thank you Sir, and that red paint job looks as fast as you are.
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That's what I'm here for ... to push people off the fence and get that bike they've been dreaming of. Congratulations !
Regarding road logic geometry. I got the rim road logic in a 55 as well and it has indeed a race geometry but I don’t get the hate, it’s easily adjustable. I put on a 90 mill stem and those specialized short reach handlebars you can get anywhere for little money, 20 mill of spacers and voila you have endurance geometry.
Loving it. Given that most bike riders will never race-most don’t need race bikes! Also in many countries the roads are terrible. So large tyre volume is much needed. However it seems that we are in a transition from race bikes,all road,endurance,gravel….interesting to see how it unfolds.( am from racing background,so my road bikes reflect this.).
You make great points! This is the bike most of us need and want.
Great looking rig--as it goes with Ritchey. RE: Geo I just sold my RL b/c of the racey geo. It fit me well and offers a great ride, but as someone very late to road bikes after decades of only riding mtb, I came to realize I prefer a taller stack and clearance for at least 35mm tires. Ended up buying an Ascent frame over the Outback after a lot of homework and geo comparisons against numerous bikes, including others that I own.
My history is just the opposite of yours. I came from race bike geometries riding 54cm bikes with 120mm head tubes (Felt F1) and a few others in the 130's Then Cervelos with 140mm head tubes in 54cm. Now I ride a 55cm RL with a 160mm head tube and it feels really tall lol! But it's fine I am nearing 60 years old I should be getting taller head tube bikes right? I think 32's feel clunky, heavy and slow but I started riding them because they say they are faster lol! I think the 28mm feels wonderful and the 30's is a bit of a push to the big side. But we all change and adapt.
@@ashurany update: I now ride 30’s on the RL as a standard tire 😂
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad And I bet you haven't lost any speed either :)
@@ashurany nope 😂 because the people I ride/race have all gotten older and have also got taller head tube bikes with 30-32 tires 😂 yep they soon be on 35mm
This bike looks like a lot of fun! 🤩 🤩
It will be! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
If this was available back in 2021 when I bought my Road Logic, I totally would have bought this. I have strap on fenders from SKS, and frame and saddle bags for credit card touring, but the RL is still a race bike. Even with the stacked spacers and 70 mm 35 degree stem I have on there. I've been able to fit 32mm tires with TRP calipers on a 17mm internal width rim. But this Montebello looks incredible. I'm very tempted to do a frame swap.
Do it! 😂 YOLO!
This was actually ridden at PBP to great success as a early dev bike. I’ve been planning on getting one for a while.
Did you ride it? Who rode it at PBP to great success?
Fergus Tanaka rode it - C037. He is also their Marketing manager.
I know who Fergus is but I think there is a little marketing going on there. I also rode PBP in 2023. He did not ride the Montebello at PBP according to his posts.
I'm thinking loaded road touring. This seems like a better option than the Ascent or Outback assuming it can mount both racks and fenders.
Yep! Ticking a lot of boxes!
My pray was granted, recently I was still deciding between swiss cross and outback, and with consideration that I have XC mtb and aero roadbike, I don't really need racy CX and doesn't need touring bike. I just wanna a light, comfort, but with ample tire clearance. Now I just need to wait the stock coming in 3rd world country where I live.
I went to sea otter today , the new bike is beautiful !
Nice! I wish I was there to check it out in person.
Interesting. Too bad they didn't go all the way in regards to the tires. A bike that can fit 650b x 42, with fenders, is a real sweet spot for rando type applications. The Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass tire is a great example.
Also, I hope that the rack is just a prototype example, the angle that it sits at is very visually unappealing and suggests a lack of care when it comes to nailing the finer details of a bike like this.
Lastly, I'd be very interested in seeing the geo. charts for this bike. I hope they went with a lower trail design, in order to obtain good handling characteristics when carrying a front load.
Looks like a interesting bike. It makes sense for Ritchey to bridge the gap between road and off road, it seems like the new industry trend after gravel is the endurance / allroad / do it all bike.
For most people there do it all bike is what you need. I don’t think most people want to buy 3 bikes when one could to the same work by just changing tires.
I usually don’t like the look of a skinny tire on a wide fork looks funny. Therefore I have 2 bikes at any given time a dedicated light weight road bike and an off road/all road bike with wider tires.
Thanks George, now I need a new bike…😂 Very good surprise, this one is a perfect modern randonneuse, Everything you need for long distance brevets. The perfect tool for your next Pbp 😄 The red paint looks very nice.
Regarding Road Logic geometry, thats right it’s a long and low frame. I cheated a little using an ergomax handlebar to add some rise and it’s ok.
Ha Ha you working on me already to come back to PBP? You don't have to. I will make every effort to be there in 2027. I have seen some folks do the same thing you did by getting a bar with a little rise. Mark, the old friend who came by the shop to pick up his frame has a similar bar.
I already have a Swiss Cross and an Outback Break Away! Do I really need another Ritchey? Don't know why, but yes I do!
Yes we all need another Ritchey. It's Ritchey +1
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It looks lovely 🥰 and a nice colour red. I like one but sadly 😢 can’t afford it.
Give it time and save up those pennies 😂
Has the algorithm been watching me 😮I have been over the last few days trying to find a steel bike that can be used for randonneuring. I found your channel as I was trying to see if I could convert/replace my 1997 Lemond Zurich fork. I found Ritchey as one of the few steel US road bike companies. I then saw your videos on the Logic and started thinking I should get a Logic as I love the Steel ride quality. But I really was torn as it seemed I would just be replacing what I already had in the Zurich. Now with this announcement, the additional hesitation I had about tire clearance, racks and stack, etc, are solved! Would love to understand the new geometry and release timing.
Cool! Big brother might be watching you 😂 let me know if you’re interested and I’ll put a backorder in for you. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing and hitting that notification bell so you know when I’ve posted additional information on this bike.
Ciao. I've have both bikes. Similar ride but the Logic is a bit firmer due to the 1 1/8" steerer vs 1" for the Zurich. If you need or want to replace the threaded 1" Lemond fork, Ritchey still makes a 1" threadless CF fork. I've done that too. Of the two, I like the flexier bike most days and the other one for under biking. Neither is designed to hang stuff. I just wear or carry a cheapo string bag for long rides.
@@rodjonsson813 Cinch bags are the best for so many purposes!
It's definitely an interesting bike! Is it just me or is it strange that it has a front rack, but no rear rack?
Wish you were there at the Sea Otter...cuz I don't wish I was at the 400k 😛
Ha ha! One of these years I’ll make it up there.
I do find it interesting to only have a front rack. I don’t know much about riding with racks. I don’t know if it’s better to have the weight on the front wheel than on the back.thankd for watching.
This new frame offering looks promising. I hope that it isn't low trail, as randonneuring bikes sometimes are.
What rake and trail numbers do you find common on Rando bikes and what would you prefer instead?
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I don't know the numbers. Several years ago when brevet and rando bikes were having a moment in the sun, many of them had low trail figures, as opposed to the relatively higher trail figures on a road bike. I test rode some of them and the front end was way too floppy. But the idea, as I understood it back then, was that the low trail was purposeful because when combined with a big bag on a front rack, it supposedly re-stabilized the handling. Since I never used a front bag/rack, I never saw any need for a low trail bike that was floppy in the front.
Got it! I asked for the geometry charts but they’re not available yet. I’ll post an update when I have the geometry
Looks very nice George lovely build quality 😊 are you getting one in the shop ? Pete 🚴🏻👍
I have to think about it. I have so many Ritcheys already 😂
The only show here in the US that sparks my interests is NAHBS. I love seeing the talented works of art that builders put into their bicycles. Sea Otter all you get is the same fluff and marketing you get from those companies websites. I think this new Ritchey offering should have debuted at the NAHBS because it's a steel bike for one and secondly it would help the brand as being identified more in line with the quality of custom brands and not cheap production manufacturing. But that is just my thinking.
NAHBS effectively dead, and replaced by MADE, and Philly Bike Show on east coast (kinda)
@@e.con5712 I don't agree. Made seemed like a joke to me. Catered to a group of builders that don't really have their hearts in it. Bikes on display that the majority wouldn't buy. Just a show put on for the sake of having a show that will loose interest fairly quickly.
I bike Montebello once week, awesome place
Nice! I may have to check it out when I’m up in the area. Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing.
LOOOOOVE IT!!!!!
me too!
I have just built up a 57cm Road Logic disc, I run 32mm Rene Herse tyres on a pair of hunts with a 25mm internal diameter. I think you would be able to squeeze some 34mm tires in - depending on the wheel. As for fit, well - look at the geometry chart! This new one looks really interesting - although I got the Road Logic as I don’t own a racy steel bike at the moment. I think if you wanted something a bit more “all Road” this would be just the job.
Thank you for the personal experience with 32 tires on the Road Logic Disc. The inner diameter is the key to getting a bigger tire (wider) and not taller. Have had enough saddle time to talk about your ride impressions of the RL Disc? And yes 40mm is very nice for all road.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I built it up last week - so have only had a very short (10mile) shakedown cruise on it. My initial impression is one of smooth sophistication. It’s never going to be a TDF race weapon - but I am 53 and like to just have a nice ride. I wanted an analog Road bike. She has Paul Klampers, rather than hydros and a mix or dura ace and Ultegra drivetrain with a rotor 48/32 crankset paired with the 11/34 Ultegra cassette. Easy to maintain and fix. The frame was really very good and probably the one that I have had to spend the least time on frame prep on ever before the build. On the road she delivered a smooth and comfortable ride, but was still engaging. Aesthetically the slim tubes are lovely to look at the fork is not screaming Carbon. I am looking forward to getting some proper mileage on her as soon as a bout of Covid buggers off!
Can't wait to get my hand on this one, I have my second outback, have had a Logic and a Swiss cross, I was thinking to only have one bike with 2 sets of wheels (Road and Gravel) but the Outback is really not a great climber, too long chainstays for me, I think this one might be the perfect choice for someone like me, great video man, as usual, cheers from Barcelona.
Yes I’m really excited about this bike too! Thanks for watching!
Ritchey stuff is so nice. I hope to own a frameset one day.
You will when you set your mind to it.
I like it. It reminds me of my old Bridgestone X0-2's geo. It was so comfortable, but stiff enough I would TT on it with reverse bullhorns. But ya, Tom 's R&D is 90%, well, Tom. He's a big guy, and the original gravel 'every bike' guy. If that were anything with a EU logo on it, would have import taxes pushing the frame upwards of 5 bills. Ritcheys are still within reach mass produced the right way.
So what’s the pay2play at Sea Otter these days?
Not sure I’ve got a schedule conflict so I didn’t delve into it.
I love Ritchey bikes and I think the Montebello would make a beautiful all arounder but there are some things that would keep me from buying it for Rando. At 64mm it has too much trail for a front loader. They should fix the cockeyed angle of the front rack. It's a small thing but it really detracts. Since it's a disc bike it might be possible to run 650B tires if the bottom bracket isn't too low (too lazy to look it up). If I couldn't run at least 650Bx38 I wouldn't bother. I have one rando bike with 650Bx48s and I can say unequivocably that fat is where it's at.😅
Where did you find the rake and trail numbers? They claim 40 700c I don’t think you’ll get more than 42 650b
that's pretty. I'd ride it.
Me too!
48mm for a gravel tire is narrow, 55mm clearance should be the minimum, for road 36mm is kind of the minimum nowadays
Yeah I'm not agreeing with you and those ridiculous tire sizes but you do you and enjoy riding because that is what it's all about in the end! Cheers!!
Would like a Rim brake version.
But then you won’t get the tire clearance unless you go canti
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Yeah your right. I am good with Canti but i doubt that would sell these days.
Love it. Now I'm torn between this and an Outback
Let me help you with that - what is the majority of your riding consist of?
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Hi George. I actually ride a Fargo and it's my main bike. My riding is mostly gravel and off-road touring but... I want something different for my "lighter" rides. I know the Outback is similar to the Fargo in many respects, the two would overlap. That's what draws me to this one. I don't want a Road Logic. Too roadie for me. This seems like a happy "in-between."
@@themindunset you’re right the Montebello might be just right for you.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I know you're a huge retailer for Ritchey and a fan. That said, will you have information on the availability of this frame? I think you said it comes out in August? Thanks for your correspondence.
@@themindunset I have been in touch with Simon about this bike for months. He doesn’t have geometry to provide nor does he have ETA yet. I will keep asking for it. I appreciate the correspondence as well. You can/should contact me directly at @revcycling@gmail.com
Hmmm. Interesting. No pump peg.
I’m not so sure we’re going to see pump pegs on new models that are “mass produced”. You can’t really find frame pumps anymore either. It’s the end of times …