Nintendo Says No to AI
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- A shareholder recently asked Furukawa if Nintendo might get into using generative AI, and he was like, "Nah," and the guy was like, "WOAH!" and ran away. True story.
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I feel like it’s been hard to get a gauge on Furukawa since he doesn’t do many public appearances, but MAN if “we make games better than a computer ever could” isn’t an ALL TIMER quote.
Bro is the quiet kid who only says bangers when they talk
It's one of those quotes we'll look back on years from now as the beginning of the end for Nintendo or the reason they grew more popular than ever before.
That isn't what he said but ok
even shitty art is better then anything an ai makes
@@foggy8298Kind of like Ferb, in a way?
If there’s one group I’d like to see Nintendo’s lawyers get unleashed upon, it’s AI tech bros.
Why haven't they gone after Palworld?
@@willwunsche6940 Tell that to all the AI tech bros in these comments. Also, those two categories are not mutually exclusive.
@@DoestheDogDiet-hq9mt I haven't seen any of them yet but you're probably right sadly
@@DoestheDogDiet-hq9mt Palworld designs aren’t directly ripped from any other game, and they carefully only use the level of Pokémon concepts that count as inspiration, rather than copying. Palworld was designed by a group of novice indie devs who decided to make a game for fun, and since nothing was actually “stolen” from Nintendo, they don’t care.
@@JacksonVoet "novice indie devs who decided to make a game for fun"
This isn't really true. They've said on record that they have no passion for what they make and they only chase trends that are already popular.
They also didn't make Palworld on a whim. They have a boss that's giving orders, so they're not really indie either. About as indie as games like Dave the Diver or Grow Up.
And they're not novices either. They're novices to the game engine they're working with, but not game design in general. The game is just janky and "novice-like" because they have no guidance or standards to be held to.
Palworld was intentionally minmaxed for minimum effort and maximum profit.
Honestly I'd be more surprised if Nintendo said yes to AI.
Honestly yeah. This isn't any news, this is just the expected Nintendo's normality...
Do you think Nintendo programs on computers and software from the 1990s? Software has AI features built in. Nintendo just means they wont be paying to build their own AI. They will use what their software providers have
It’s not surprising but it’s still nice to hear.
@@chiquita683this is the core of my issue with pro-AI talk right now. It’s a misnomer. So many things are called AI that have little to do with each other. The main discussion since last year is generative AI models, not the countless other things called “AI” for decades.
@@solomon9655They are speaking as if Nintendo didn't directly address their use of non-generative AI.
Investors LOVE the idea of AI, and that's who Furukawa is talking to here. So it's interesting how Furukawa is basically saying "No" to ai, but using language intended for an audience that probably WANTS Nintendo to pursue generative AI
All they said no to is generative ai. Nintendo has used normal ai for decades which is normal and mostly fine
One bad case they (edit: probably) used ai upscaling for the low effort Mario 3D All Stars port on the Mario 64 UI instead of bothering to redraw it so it would look better. But that's more a problem with that port being super low effort, ai upscaling is perfectly fine in some situations
@@willwunsche6940 maybe I'll edit my comment to clarify that. and then your reply will make no sense >:)
@@OrbitalLizardStudios D: Noooo don't do that
Japanese shareholders are different enough from Western ones tho. They don't have such a hard on generative AI yet so this wouldn't boos their stock as much as it did for western companies
@@TakisEnjoyer Yeah they are still on NFTs with the Japanese government funding grants to it last I heard. I wonder if they finally have moved on from that. As someone who grew up under a Japanese corporation it's interesting.
They only outlawed floppy disks from government use like a few weeks ago. They love their old tech. You see business guys with super old 90s laptops and their ATMs only withdrawal certain times of the day like they need to sleep. It's charming even if old fashioned
AI wouldn't even make sense with Nintendo. Their games thrive on the handcrafted touch.
Thats a really good point.
*Maybe* Nintendo knows that AI art *isn’t* too hot, as in AI art tend to be nightmarish. For example, an AI art of __ riding __ like “woman riding wolf” comes out cursed, with extra legs on the wolf, odd proportions of the animal, or even the rider and the animal blending into each other.
@@whitewolf3051 its pretty hard to get exactly what you want from an AI and Nintendo always wants things to be a very specific way so they just don't really work together.
AI would be more for companies that have a vague idea of what they want but don't really care about an exact vision.
I mean just look at the voices in Splatoon. They could've used vocaloids to make the voice lines, but instead they got voice actors into a room handed them a sheet of gibberish and basically said "It might look weird but try your best :D".
A.I? More like… “ey, I’d rather not”
stealing this one lol (kinda like ai!)
Makes sense that Nintendo is against AI for intellectual rights reasons when they're so into defending their own IPs. Inadvertently infringing on copyright using generative AI would make Nintendo look like hypocrites.
AI is used in a lot of other ways for programming
You do know that AI is not just stealing, right ?
@@chiquita683 that's entirely different from generative AI, though. generative AI is what things like chatGPT are, while the AI used in video game development is more stuff like pathfinding or CPUs.
Oh hi Ade lol. Fancy meeting you here.
@@star-rock6466 generative AI is the process of scraping together thousands if not millions of images/words/songs/voice clips (or whatever else it might be) to create a fake recreation of what it associates with the given prompts
AI images are stealing, AI music is stealing, AI writing is stealing, and AI voice acting and deepfaking is both stealing and impersonating
Generative AI really is mass plagiarism, I think the only reason it’s allowed to be used right now is because it’s hard to say who you’re plagiarizing, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok
+user-te6rm7tw7d 100% correct. Generative AI is the refuge of the untalented hack.
True creatives do not depend on such cheap methods to create ideas.
Not to mention that AI art tends to generate nightmare fuel images, especially __ riding ___ art, for example let’s say “woman riding lion,” often times the proportions are off in ludicrous means, the animal may have extra limbs, or the rider and the animal blend into each other.
The only reason people care about generative AI being mass plagiarism is because it SUCKS
If the AI was actually good, and made exactly what you wanted, exactly how you wanted it, every time, like full blown mind blowing 2 hour long movies and art pieces, exactly to YOUR specifications, and you can't tell it was made by an AI vs humans. If it was able to completely avoid copyright entirely, like a human could, then, what's the problem?
Why does it matter that it was trained on all other art that exists? It doesn't matter if it's "plagiarism" if everyone has it, why not use it if it works?
Anyone making whatever they want however they want it. I believe far, far, less people would be clamoring to uselessly scream "PLAGIARISM" then, when it would probably be closer to plagiarism than ever to be honest.
You really think that AI currently can replace any of those artists that it look at the art of? Not really at all...
Well, either way, right now, AI sucks too much for it to even matter
I really appreciate Nintendo and ghibli studio for standing against AI
Nintendo, if nothing else, is talented at ignoring the buzzwords and just making good games (most of the time). The AI buzzword is already tired and a terrible excuse for lack of innovation, so I'm glad to hear they dont have a major interest in it.
Hi Dan! Good to see you here as always lol
@@FluffyDigbystop following me!! 😂
(or at least some of the time)
Nintendo is too good for ai that's where I love about them ＼(^o^)／
To draw a probably controversial comparison, Nintendo's a lot like Apple in that regard. They seemingly 'ignore' what's happening in their wider industry and do their own thing. And much like with Apple, Nintendo often gets credit for 'creating' things that aren't actually new, but that nobody really took an interest in until Nintendo did it lol
when’s the sequel channel “notopicarlo” where arlo has no topic and doesn’t know what to talk about
Just 10 minutes of "Ahhh. Ummm."
@@Slenderquilthat’s a weird ASMR channel.
He just does a videogamedunkey “no video today” and makes something up with no inspiration
@@minecrafter3448This would be quite fun
He literally just improvises for 8 minutes like he did once for "Christmas music".
Imagine big corporations "saving money" by firing all of their employees, only to spend all of their money suing each other over IP theft 🤣
"You tell those shareholders. Getim"
It helps that the executives for the most part understand the development process, that's why they're saying no. They know that the "promise" of the technology has nothing backing it up. A carpenter knows what tools to use, and so does a game developer.
As a student studying AI and machine learning, I really appreciate Nintendo acknowledging the difference between the broader concept of artificial intelligence and generative AI, which is what most people think of now when you say AI. The broader field of AI is so cool and can be applied to so many fields, and it bums me out that so many people now think the entire field is just with stealing from artists. Good to see Nintendo acknowledging the nuance, and also certainly doesn’t hurt that they’re also against using other people’s work with generative AI.
I relate to this so much. AI has become associated with "AI art" and people give the entire concept of AI and machine learning hate. AI is the newest tech boogeyman and while we should discuss the ethics and implications of the technology, we shouldn't write the whole thing off because of a few aspects of it.
With that said, generative AI regularly plagiarizes & steals images & artwork from artists & the WHOLE INTERNET to create an abomination
So of course many people wouldn’t like it including me
Well here’s the problem with what you just said- you fail to mention AI literature, videos and vocal technology. They are all forms to generative AI, but they all cover different fields. And they all, just like AI art, are a testament to human laziness. And it’s partially the fault of the previous generations. Guess who creates iPad kids? Millennial and Gen Z parents who didn’t abort the child they don’t care about enough to put the time and effort into teaching to be patient and (especially for the younger kids), entertain. The problem isn’t just AI, it’s a problem with our misuse of technology, perpetual laziness, and so much more.
Nintendo knows they have human artists and they know they don’t need a computer to make all the art
yeah! why would they pay for an expensive graphics processor when they can just underpay a real human instead
Nintendo games had AI being a villain in Pokemon, Metroid, (maybe Zelda botw if the ancient tech counts as AI) so this is pretty on brand
Kirby too with President Haltmann and the Haltmann works company
There's the Memverse in Splatoon 3 Side Order as well
Super Paper Mario had an AI be turned evil by Dimentio, also Kirby and Splatoon as the previous responders mentioned, Mother 3 has all sorts of ruminations on things like AI, I think Star Fox also did?, Xenoblade has blades who have AIs that have *some* autonomy but who's personalities and desires are influenced by their drivers; the main villain of Xenoblade 2 was an AI who had literally no choice but to be evil despite trying to fight against himself and his wants, even Pikmin 2's ship AI is a little asshole.
Add Splatoon 2 to that list too
@@foggy8298 Alpha from Future Redeemed was an evil AI, so that counts
AI peddlers will claim it’s all in the name of ‘progress’. To that I ask: “Progression to what end?”
As an artist who works on commissions, I agree with all of your points. The only tiny thing I'd change the word "talent" from "skill", because any person - no matter how much ai bros say it's impossible to learn art and that artists are "gatekeeping" it - art is a *skill* that anyone can learn.
Just like anyone can learn to play a video game, but it doesn't mean they'll be good at it.
There is nuance to this.
You can learn to play a game and just not click with it, you can learn a skill but not click with it and fail to do well with said thing. Reality is a lot more harsh then we realize. For some people it simply is impossible without spending more time then they have available.
You either need enough time or talent, otherwise it is legitimately impossible or comes at the cost of another skill.
@@cosmicskydragon333 ye true, I mean the only reason I draw is bc I like it, so it's easier to learn lol. I don't think you have to be a "good" artist (or whatever other hobby) to be able to enjoy it. If someone is stressing over it *that* much to the point they just wonder "why even bother wasting time, I don't like it that muchanyways", I think they should either just relax about it or simply try something else.
People need to stop being so insistent about the definition of "talent" when no one ever actually uses it to mean "magic free innate ability." Most of the time it's literally just synonymous with skill.
@@17thstellation oh, I think it's just a personal preference then bc I don't like being called tallented, I'd rather be called skillful since it feels more earned
Message of the video: Creation is a super power, OWN IT!
Using tech to replace the creative spirit and talent, is greedy.
And lazy
Boomers
@@crazyfire9470???
LET THEM COOK
Nintendo basically said we will be using generative AI in our games but wont be building games entirely by it. We'll have someone monitoring it
@@chiquita683 When did they say that?
@@chiquita683 were are you making these connection? Are you five? did you not listen to what Nintendo said?
@@chiquita683One of their reasons is intellectual property concerns, so it seems extremely unlikely that they’d be using it at all.
God I hate when people say this. What a stupid phrase from a stupid generation.
im an illustrator who's worked with Devolver Digital, NYT, Forbes, all those were effected by AI. Hurts a lot, but I'll always create art. Thanks for your words Arlo, glad u think AI art is doodoo also.
❤keep on truckin
@@admiralAlfonso9001 much love
This is the most ziplash gameplay I have ever seen in my life.
What an interesting game playing in the background. I sure hope nobody throws a bunch of copies of it down the toilet
It’s too bad this game blows, however……
And becomes the Anti-Gex
Scott the Woz reference lol.
I mean this game doesn't seem that bad! It has graphics, and it exists!
I can't see why anyone would ever FATHOM doing such a thing to a game!
Unless, of course, the game blows...
rare Nintendo higher ups W
Common W you mean. Emulation bros can continue seething.
@@swyjix They’ve done much more than just the emulation strike…
@@swyjix They've shut down fan run tournaments for no apparent reason, taken down videos for using footage of their games or clips of their music, and yes shut down emulation sites that are purely for archiving purposes. Nintendo taking a W is a rare thing. You're just fanboying.
@@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero Their wins are usually for their employees, not the consumers.
@@swyjixtbh I feel like the main reason people like emulation is because it’s impossible to play certain games nowadays, for example I was too young to play fire emblem 6 for the gba in japan only, but if I wanted to play it i would either have to pay out the wazoo for an overpriced secondhand copy on ebay and freaking learn japanese. If nintendo were to release it with some minor updates like a english translation for an affordable price I would never feel the desire to emulate it.
The problem with AI is while it can be a useful helping tool, every corporation that uses it winds up using it entirely wrong. AI is meant to help humans, not replace them.
Good on Nintendo for not even trying so they don't make the same mistake.
I really need all of you reading this comment to watch Kamen Rider Zero-One. Particularly, episode 5. They really tried to warn us about the dos and don'ts of AI and we just didn't listen.
I can't express how much I've learned using AI. Primarily because you can't trust it and it requires you to go down that rabbit hole to learn new things.
Wow, I didn't expect someone to mention zero one or kamen rider in general, I have the blu-ray for it, though if anyone's interested in watching you can watch it on tubing or I think shout factory (Not sure about shout factory but pretty sure it's on there as well).
Yes, AI is very good to generate boring stuff like make the forest or grass or diverse and non repetitive. Or help with all the repetitive burden you have when creating something new. It can also help to find glitches.
@@cherubin7th most art people's job is to create boring stuff. they usually work in compaines where this is the only thing they do. so yes ai will replace most art related jobs, but not all because people who create truly orignal stuff cannot be replaced. ask any anime production team and they will tell you how many times they have drawn the same panel with different main character
ai is a Mr. Handy, not a synth is what you’re saying.
Nintendo being based, as they usually are.
As they should. Nintendo has always been one of the better companies in terms of values (give or take a little), but this makes me proud to be a Nintendo fan.
Nintendo continues to dunk on the competition.
This year, Nintendo has really felt like a shining light between the big three. I’m so happy about their stance on this.
Edit: also this Chibi-Robo Ziplash gameplay looks kinda fire
+jordanchicken They have always been the shining light since they took over the industry in 1985.
It's just that now the majority of people has finally & fully realized this.
The propaganda from Nintendo's competition is finally wearing off.
All us Nintendo fans had to do was stick by them in Gamecube times, Wii times, Wii U times, & all.
In times of feast or famine, we did not buckle. We did not give way. And now gaming will be protected.
@@johnlucas1543 definitely, I feel exactly the same, but I didn’t want to make my comment sound too fanboy-ish.
@@jordanchicksen Hahahaha! Be fanboy-ish all you want for a company who tries to keep the integrity of videogaming intact. Nintendo protects this business so hard people don't even REALIZE!
If these guys weren't around, videogaming would be an absolute wasteland full of predatory reckless practices with no escape. Nintendo forces the rest of the industry to straighten up its act.
If they don't Nintendo takes all the power from them due to their excess.
Nintendo has been checking the bullshit in this industry for 40 years & hardly anybody thanks them for it.
Remember Jack Thompson, the moral crusader from the decade of the 2000s?
If he got his way, a lot of things you see in videogaming would have been banned & you would have the clueless government involved ruining everything on artistic expression.
But there Nintendo was quietly with its DS & Wii having their parental warnings on the startup screens & actually telling gamers to go outside & touch grass. What gaming company DOES that?! Hahaha!
Nintendo like always has a healthy sense of social responsibility & they offset Jack Thompson's concerns.
He can't call all of videogaming a Grand Theft Auto moral decayer with Nintendo around.
So eventually he faded away. Nintendo quietly cleaned up the image for videogames.
No, I disagree with you. Fanboy AWAY! Nintendo protects the entire videogame medium for the future.
When Apple & Google turn everything into a Freemium wasteland, there's Nintendo to rehabilitate gaming.
When PC power worship starts destroying countless developers causing a modern-day crash, there's Nintendo doing things the RIGHT way & setting the example for the surviving devs to follow.
When Sony & Microsoft fool gamers into worrying about unnecessary things, there's Nintendo to remind everyone that THE GAME IS THE THING. The game & the way we play is all that matters.
So long as Nintendo's here, we'll be able to pass down these works of art to future generations.
We'll show them the importance of physical media. We'll show them the importance of positive messages.
We'll show them the value in a safe gaming space free from predators & predatory practices.
Gambling & Gaming are cousins if not siblings. Gambling is Gaming with a Predatory Nature intact.
What we call Gaming is Clean Gaming free from the Predatory Nature & focused on Fun & Entertainment.
The Gambling types will take over the business if someone doesn't uphold Clean Gaming.
So fanboy all you want for Nintendo. They keep this whole industry intact. They're the Guardians.
@@johnlucas1543 one word: COURT
@@CRaDISHOfficial A Wii Sports/Nintendo Switch Sports Basketball COURT, perhaps?
Who can survive the 3-point challenge?
Wait til they start using non-artificial intelligence
Artificial intelligence when Artificial STUPIDITY walks in: 😨
@@NikFromm Hahahahahaha you just gave me a life purpose, I'm gonna make that.
@@NikFromm That's just Wheatley.
@@ConfusedDesigner2171 No one has succeeded in being both smart enough to code, yet dumb enough to make the code get everything wrong. However, I wish you luck, soldier!🫡
Artificial Stupidity sounds like a sick Industrial Metal band
People tend to complain about Nintendo but they don't do that much compared to the rest, their major flaws are the prices and how they treat some fan projects but in the rest they are better than most big companies, especially things like activision blizzard and Microsoft buying and closing a lot of places
They have some decidedly anti-consumer practices and don't seem to care at all about game preservation, but they're leagues better than the other major game companies. Especially when it comes to how they treat their employees.
theres no major flaw in prices when the majority of the public pay for it.
@@Ikine557 If the Gigaleak is anything to go by they're good at preservation, they're just very stingy with actually offering it to people
@@Ikine557 they are the least anti consumer company lol. everything they do is to ease the customer and if you think the 0.1% of people who like playing 20 year old games are their main concern then you are wrong. also maybe like 5% of the smash community cares about those tournaments cancelled by nintendo so those dont count aswell lol
@@Ikine557anti consumer is such buzzword nowadays after all the fan service they've put out recently on switch they honestly one of the least anti consumer gaming companies
If there's something Nintendo do not want to deal with is copyright issues
Nintendo loves tearing projects down over copyright issues
The one time people praise Nintendo for being old-fashion.
I mean, being old-fashioned is also the main reason Nintendo never really embraced fee-2-pay, lootbox, or live service games the way other big companies have.
@@fhey7903 I am thankful we have literally almost forgotten about nfts too at this point. We puked that out immediately on an industry wide scale 😂
@@fhey7903lets not forget theyre the only company that noone is worried about losing physical media with
@@fhey7903well, they did on mobile
I have plenty of criticisms towards Ninty but I will at least give them a compliment for this statement.
Nintendo wanting their own original stuff and saying no to generative AI like that is an awesome TopicArlo video to watch on my birthday! :D
Happ borth 🎉
@@Snow-sx5ev Thank you!
Nintendo being run by a bunch of dinosaurs who value IP rights to an almost insane degree has it’s benefits sometimes
Its effectively a double edged sword.
More like Nintendo is being run by the honourable samurais. The samurai respects the enemy…..Then it dunks on them.
Nintendo isn't run by a bunch of dinosaurs, you people dont even know who they are. The president isnt even in the 60s and most of the board are developers like miyamoto, takahashi and leaders of hardware like ko shiota
@@ausgod538and that right there is a huge factor: they all have a history in game development so they know what makes something good and what matters more.
@@ausgod538 Hey, I just heard of this awesome new thing called a "joke". It's really cool, you should look it up sometime.
They chose not to get AI ready with Azure. Resistance is not futile after all
Still a weird ad they put up for that…
Staying away from NFTS and AI, not buying up and closing down studios, a steady stream of games...can we agree that Nintendo won big-time this generation?
+GabePlaysYT Nintendo won about 40 years ago in 1985 when they set down the rules that saved the industry from the 1983 Crash. They put down standards that ensured the longevity of the industry against the recklessness it was mired in by the companies who controlled the business before them.
It just took many many many years for the majority of people to see they were right all along.
They outlasted the competition's propaganda & now everybody is starting to finally see Nintendo clearly.
Hiroshi Yamauchi, Satoru Iwata, Tatsumi Kimishima, Shuntaro Furukawa...a continuance in governance built from Yamauchi's vision for Nintendo: ARTISTS before BEANCOUNTERS, VALUE your STAFF.
Everything is just Nintendo following that old vision & ethos.
While watching the gameplay, all i can think is: THIS GAME BLOWS
I find it absolutely hilarious that the main thing keeping Nintendo from adopting generative AI is copyright ambiguity. It's so on brand and you gotta respect the consistency.
Is that fucking chibi robot ziplash background footage?
with kirby planet robobot music playing, yes
Yeah its a weird choice.
Scott is screaming somewhere
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182it's supposed to be on-topic since AI is commonly though of as a robot
Yeah, that game blows
As someone who works as a writer in the game industry, thank you for these AI videos. You are on the right side of history you fuzzy blue wonder.
Nintendo does seem to have a craftsman's pride, so this doesn't really surprise me, but it is nice to hear it said out loud.
Of course they’re against AI.
They’re talented and creative.
Dude Nintendo sounds like an awesome company to work for. As I've heard from Moon Channel, Nintendo of Japan actually recognize gay marriage irrespective of local laws.
It's not nationally recognized, only some prefectures (equivalent to states or provinces) have the systems in place to allow it, but Nintendo employees in gay partnerships (legally recognized or not) get the same company benefits as straight partnerships. It's cool as hell for Japan, I gotta say
love the description
I saw this one tweet like, “see how the company that actually started out making video games knows how to make them unlike the companies that forced themselves into the industry” and like. yeah
+desmonddruhling Yeah I saw that too. I think it was "valfrey_" whose name is Megan, a VGM composer.
An artist like her has definitely come to appreciate a company who stands by its artists.
Nintendo has been about Artists FIRST since Hiroshi Yamauchi set the terms decades ago.
Let the Creatives create. THEN you can count the money that comes from their Creations.
That's why Nintendo keeps those short-sighted shareholders on a leash so well.
They say what they have to say in executive-speak while protecting that core ethos of Artists over Beancounters.
I love how Arlo says Nintendo is so good at making games they don't need AI while Chib Robo Ziplash plays in the background
Iwata-sama would be very pleased with that awnser.
I have a brother who works in the AI field, and let me tell you, he too is frustrated by generative AI. What he works on is more akin trying to make a real life Jarvis assistant type thing, which i feel alot of people also have less issues with.
A lot of us complain how in the past Nintendo is with a lot things, this 1 major good thing about that
Nintendo is clearly the most moral big video game company. You can be upset at their taking down of ROMs, but most of the ones they target are already on NSO, and it's hard to argue that full uploads of games currently on sale is fair. They only went after yuzu after they were AWFUL with their patreon, they looked the other way for like 6 years. Hard to rationally stay angry at them compared to the boom/bust hire/firing of companies like MSFT, or the corporate slop that Sony and others produce these days. They've gotten infinitely better with YT and social media over the course of this generation too.
I would say Valve is more moral than Nintendo if it wasn't for them somewhat allowing child gambling in CSGO from 3rd party external websites by not keeping a close enough eye on it for a few years
Valve does a lot of overlooked things morally better than Nintendo like repairability, consumer friendlyness. But Nintendo has gotten better in recent years, they don't use as much proprietary stuff anymore, etc.. But there's still some pretty bad stuff Nintendo does that people don't really talk about
Im not sure I want to refer to any companys actions as 'moral', nintendo (and valve) included. They do what they think is best for the company, and for some that arent completely blinded by shortsighted greed, things that benefit their customers and employees also benefit them in the longterm
Don’t get me wrong, i love nintendo, but if you take down gamecube roms, THEN LET ME BUY THEM
@@profl0g1c38 Sennheiser could be considered "moral" as a big company in that they cared so much about durability and the quality of their headphones that their headphone devision semi went out of business. They refused to chase cheap trends or reduce the quality or durability of their ridiculously good headphones which last like 20 years. Ended up getting bought out by some hearing aid company
Companies like Costco or maybe employee run companies where the profits are divided among the employees are typically allowed to be less bad too. A company like Valve gets to act better because they have no shareholders to report too and a weird corporate structure where everyone sort of just works on what they want as long as it gets results
They're hardly moral, Jesus. Let's not normalize personifying companies. They're for profit, they have always been, there is no morality there. Profit chasing is morally bankrupt inherently.
At least some companies have at least a little integrity under their belt.
Even completely ignoring ethics and the worth of art as a concept, relying on AI is EXTREMELY legally shaky. If laws against AI usage for voice acting, art, etc. are made widespread in the USA, EU, Japan, etc. on the basis of copyright or impersonation or whatever it may be, then the companies that are downsizing to rely on AI are going to be in hot water.
Nintendo being the best as usual.
AI is GOOD for those who have a need for for something no human can do, like Photo restoration or image upscaling, But the scariest point of argument happens to be that it's literally everywhere, Doing everything! Want music? AI it, Need Art, AI it, Need a description? AI it, You can make a CZcams video without even needing some imagination... (Take uploading straight music for example).
AI should be a tool, not the entire solution to literally EVERYTHING.
Arlo denouncing generative AI is a nice little snack we get to enjoy often. Nintendo denouncing generative AI is like a rare, fancy dessert that I wasn't expecting! 👀
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto is Nintendo's generative AI at this point.
miyamoto is a synth
I’m an art teacher and I talk about generative AI in my classes. My argument against the people who say, “That’s what all art is, just mashing up things you’ve seen, exactly what AI does.” The thing they miss, is that the AI will do it the same way all the time. I ask for a blue bird, I get a blue bird and it almost always looks the same. I could paint 100 blue birds and as hard as I tried to make them uniform, each one would be subtly different, because I am always changing and growing and learning. Every day, even minute I’m different, and that’s the beauty of art, that it’s about that moment of your life, that can never be recreated. AI just does what you tell it to do. Tell 25 5 year olds to draw a blue bird. Every single one will be different.
good
Agreed
Somewhat common Nintendo W
It is quite the W.
Love these vids
I would've been *repulsed* by the idea of Nintendo using AI in any way. So good they said that early.
0:00 I fr thougt he said "ey, I..." and then he did the evil music and I realized lol
A.I. SPORTS
"It's in the game!"
oh man, the next 5 years are going to be wild XD
THE BARE MINIMUM 🎉
Thank you Nintendo
Nintendo are a serious gaming company full of creatives. Of course they don’t want to use AI.
This statement from nintendo was so good
THANK YOU
I'm so happy Nintendo wants to continue cooking 😄
Finally, something I can get behind.
This is one of the few instances where Nintendo being "old school" is a huge W.
You’re an AI hater mook😒
so happy to see this
I'm not too surprised by this, but I'm glad Nintendo actually confirmed it.
The irony of getting a ChatGPT ad during this video
"So, is Nintendo interested in AI?"
Nintendo: Using generative AI is a skill issue.
Rare Nintendo higher up decision W.
"Medium occurrence Nintendo W"
+ProjectionProjects2. It ain't rare. It's pretty common from them actually.
Huge kudos to Nintendo for recognizing the latest tech hype cycle for what it is. Human art over algorithm slop any day.
And everyone clapped
Reading over the article, I feel like saying Nintendo is against AI partout, is blown out of proportion a bit. There is no mention of them flat out condemning the idea of ever using generative AI.
Mind you, when it comes to the way they treat their artists, Nintendo does seem to have their heart in the right place (if the lack of layoffs, and abundance of salary-raises is anything to go by).
I‘m just worried that they’ll eventually cave into potential pressure from the shareholders to use AI, in order to cut down costs. Obviously I hope that’s not gonna be the case.
W Nintendo
If you are a company exec and stand against AI image generation in 2024, you are owed a kiss on the mouth.
Ayo🤨📸
As much as I despise Nintendo executives, I’ve gotta admit that Furukawa cooked with that response.
I laughed so loud with your intro, 😂
Nintendo still deserves criticism for their copyright stinginess, but they can be super based once in a while.
Vastly different departments.
This isnt super based
True.
Art is bolstered by life experiences. AI has no life experience, just parameters and stipulations. AI can never surpass or truly replace humanity, this fad will die down if enough people are smart and voice their opinions about what they want, and especially what they don't want.
Moreover, AI "art" can never be art, as art, on some level, requires meaning and intent, and machines are incapable of meaning. One thing I learned in a theory of automata class in university: the human brain operates by meaning, while machines operate by grammar. A machine will never understand what it is doing.
Exactly, current AI cannot truly convey any emotion, only AGIs would be able to do that, but we are not even close to developing one.
and at that point the AGI is just a person we made..? so what if it says "nah lol i don't wanna make art, give me rights and let me study engineering" or something
@@MichiNikki at that point, I say let it cook lmao if it's wanting to go out and live a life, I cannot hate
Phew, at least they sided with the side of reason.
all i want is that ai for helping npc's make eye contact with the playable character, thats all
Nintendo doing something good for once
Emulation is piracy and a crime
"for once"
They are good often, except their copyright lawyers
Bro just discovered Nintendo 💀
for the past 40 years Nintendo has never done anything good
next up: "Nintendo hires AI-based cyberdetective firm to crack down on anyone who infringes copyright"
This is main channel worthy
Champing! Nice, @topicarlo. It shows us you care about the little things.
The whole debate genuinely annoys me by just how irrationally aggressive everyone gets about it.
Like, no, AI enthusiasts, AI can't and shouldn't replace human creative labour.
And, no, anti-AI people, AI art won't nor can replace your jobs. It's low quality and instable. Policing the word 'art' or use of AI won't convince anyone of the actual problems with AI and AI art.
I think what the anti-AI people are concerned about though is that the tech will get so good that it eventually will replace them. The concern is not completely irrational, as the tech has gotten better but will it ever get good enough to replace peoples jobs? Who knows.
The only way I'd like to see AI of this sort used in video games is to make NPC characters more reactive to the game world and the player, like that mod for Skyrim that connects to ChatGPT and lets you talk to any of the characters outside of their canned dialog.
Personally, even that’s kinda lame imo. It’s a nice gimmick to mess with for a few minutes, but the dialog will usually be superficial at best and downright meaningless at worst, and eventually you’ll start to see how the responses either get really stale and samey or go completely off the rails. Even the best AI will fall apart after a while, because it simply can’t keep up with human creativity.
Nope, that would ruin worldbuilding and writing. The chat engine would need to constantly check to make sure it doesn't contradict itself on top of everything else, and that would make the game run horribly, on top of everything else that chat model would have to do, like making sure to talk in the same dialect the whole way through. It would be used as a justification to replace writers and would be genuinely pointless.
Even in Skyrim, I'd much rather have less NPCs than have each NPC auto generate their own backstory and put bloat on the game's file size and ram usage. What about voice acting? what about player responses?
Awful idea, sorry
I really appreciate the use of Ziplash as the background footage to highlight the quality of the games Nintendo can make without AI
That's what's up, Nintendo 👍🏿
Generative AI is theft. It's theft because AI isn't conscious, and artists are, so their rights matter more.
(And yes, there ARE some good uses for generative AI like... next-frame generation on video cards to drastically improve frame rates in modern games, trained purely on the data set of the images you and your game are generating, or even updated weather prediction models or things like that... But I honestly think what most corporations are using it for right now, skipping actually generating their own content in favor of stealing everything real writers, artists, and musicians have made to regurgitate it back at people in some sterile soulless form, is not just insulting artistically, it's outright theft that merely threatens to put the "starving" back into "artist".)
Wouldn't that be the other way around? It's theft for artists to copy from other because they're conscious, and thus have the capability to know better
@@Chris-jx4ij It's theft because some lazy greedy CEO fed the art into the AI.
@@Chris-jx4ij Weird philosophical argument. I like it.
Times like these makes me glad I'm a Nintendo fan. :3