The Origin of Numbers
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- The “Hindu-Arabic Numerals” are by far the most commonly used symbols to represent numbers; and as the name suggests, they do not come from Europe. How did the Europeans, and later most of the world, come to use the numbers as we know them?
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Numbers? I've never heard of this ethnic group. Are their leaders called Cardinals?
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The level of advancement in mathematics that the Indians reached so long ago was truely fascinating
its only mildly fascinating to me. I mastered these techniques long ago
It's suspected that Indians manufactured the first temples which inspired Egypt.
Middle Eastern such Egyptian Mesopotamia Sumerian Persian Arab contributed mathematics most for thousands of years.
Here is the origin in simpler terms.
From Brahmi, Aryabatta, Brahmagupta, Al-Khwarizmi, Al-Kindi, Leonardo Fibonacci and then into Europe.
red dot here, red dot there
Amazing how the numbers we use today actually originated in the Hindu civilization; this great civilization has now reached the moon and Mars. Incredible people.
y thats all great, but dont call it hindu civilization, people think it means the religion, because of the brits. Hindu simply meant all people living behind the hindukush (from Persia). It has nothing to do with religion. But today hindu = religion for most people.
Call it indian civilization or bharat or even south asian (since all of south of Asia is heavyly influence by indian culture through the past 5000 years, but hindu civilization or the word hindu in general is totaly misused because it wasnt used to discribe a religion (hinduism is no religion, its not centralized in any way, it has no person of authority and its not uniform in any way except of the concept of 3 sides of divinity / creation).
But even indians themselfs nowadays dont even understand this fact. Its because the indian educationsystem was strategically ruined by the brits (documented), because it was the biggest threat for them to properly exploit the resources from the people. I forgot his name, I could find it in 5 minutes, but some representative of the british royal family, who was tasked with replacing the indian education system with the british, wrote in a letter how he will ruin it and why.
One of the gifts of Indians 🥰🥰
of muslims you mean
@@cuzimmoody6470 it was used by Indians, even centuries prior to the birth of Muhammad and existence of islam.
@@cuzimmoody6470 What did Muslims do? they just copied it from Indians 🤣 and kept quite as if they invented the number system 🤣🤣
Yes, they are Tamil letters. (௧ ௨ ௩ ௪ ௫ ௬ ௭ ௮ ௯ ௦)
@@iXpress wait what who said you they copied
They already had invented at the time by al khawarazmi yeah maybe a little late but not coppied they had their own and un-stolen product which was further influenced others and the numbers they Indians are using are in India only and not become famous and i.e it is known as Arabic numerals in Germany and most of the Europe as much as I know and I think even the whole world writes it Arabic numeral system.
Thanks for the mini docu mate, funny how something so ubiquitous has so many facisnating ways of doing and origins. Numbers feel more intrinsic to life than writing itself.
numbers are the letters of god.
Love these kind of science history videos
Enjoyable video KnowHistory!
I never thought about how our numbers came to be until now! 😂
So they are Hindu Numbers
Makes alot of sense
That was amazing!! Thank you 🙏🙏, very concise starting point that gives credit where it's due.
Thank you!!
Well....as far as we KNOW. History is full of unseen, unknown connections - unknown to historians, that is. Just remember that history relies on primary, secondary and tertiary-sourced documents. But records have a way of disappearing (fire, theft, carelessness, trash, ETC.) so we really are talking about extant records. This doesn't mean that credit is always given where due even when we think we know. Just a little something to bear in mind ....
Gupta age is called golden age of India.
Since British colonized us, people think we were not developed.😢
They don't know about oir contribution to science and humanities.
Amazing video as usual
I'm glad to hear that!!
Good video as always
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2 + 2 is 4, minus 1 that's 3. Quick mafs.
In 1984 it was 2+2=5.
AL-khwarizmi (AlGorithim الخوارزميات and AlGebraالجبر founder ) wrote his books and reacarches in Arabic he immigrated to Baghdad ,Iraq when he was a toddler with his family died and buried in Iraq.
so they just copied hindu brahmi numerals
@@d_n_j6298 No ,they didn't and it seems you have understanding difficulty if some sort ...You should seek treatment .
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I didn't get the point of calling them Arabic numerals when their concept and their original form has their origin in india and Arabians just passed that concept to Europe without adding anything into it.
Adding? You mean Al zebra AL gorithm etc mathematics were founded by arabs . Lol.
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH lol, didn't you get my point that i was not talking about mathmatics,i was talking about numeral system,in which arabs didn't added anything,they just copied it from Indians, found it more suitable than any other number systems used at that time and transported it to Europe!
Thats it,hence there is no logic in calling them Arabic numerals. Calling them Indian/Hindu numerals are better option for that purpose.
Btw al khwarizmi was not an Arabic,he was persian and he was in great influence with the indian mathmatics of that time and he himself admitted that in his own book.!,
Please gather some info before indulging into such discussions.
It's probably something similar to calling "the Spanish flue" even though it didn't come from Spain.
Considering that the major works of mathematics that were the foundation for modern science came from translations of Arabic texts and that, as the video explained, most of Europe's interactions with the numbers came through the Arab world, the name Arabic numerals just stuck.
And yes, even though the system for the numbers itself came from India, the shapes they are written in was morphed through Arabic
@@darthcalanil5333 soe,lets look in this way -
This Number system originated in India,they called it as Sankhya ( संख्या - something which is calculable).
Then Arabs learned them while trading with hindu traders,they always called them as hindu numerals.
Now Europe got familiar with them by arabs hence started calling them Arabic numerals without knowing its origin till they colonised India.
But it was the Europeans who introduced them to rest of the world excluding indians and arabs.
But there is no logic in calling them European numbers because rest of the world is familiar with the origin that Europeans only help in spreading it.
So in same manner,when truth is realised,there is no problem in switching them to calling as hindu/Indian numerals.
This was very educational!
I got the reference hehe
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Obrigado!
Thx. Your vid finally gave me the origin story. ❤
For the algorithm.
Quite literally!
Which was invented by Alkhawarizmi himself.
@@bander-Coolb That has to be a joke. Just as Number system reached to west through Middle east and they started calling it Arabic numbers, similarly algebra and algorithm reached to Europe through middle east. Indian were already using Algebra and Algorithm before Al Khwarizmi was born. Read some Books. The formula to solve quadratic equations was given by Brahmagupta and not Al Khwarizmi
Dude dude! Check this out - I call it "zero" - it means nothing! Arn't I great?!
Its not, when Indians gave the concept of zero which they called as Shunya ( शून्य ), for them it resembles emptyness and they said that emptyness is best form of completeness!
Because if something has a value,it is not complete in its whole hence it is शून्य /zero only which is complet.
This led to establishment of concept of शून्यवाद / shunyavaad in early Hinduism and Buddhism.
In it zero was considered as best manifestation of god !
I’ve heard this story too. The elder filled the younger’s cup to full and kept pouring - the you going said, master it’s overflowing! To which the elder said, it’s the emptiness of the cup that gives it purpose
@@FlashPointHx isnt the purpose to fill the cup and drink with it? I dont think the purpose is to fill the cup.
It seems south America also had a base 10 numbering system. Which is honestly strange. Pointing to humanity being more connected in the past than we previously knew.
How fascinating that it is perfectly created, knowing the 3,6,9 of Tesla
@1:47 zero existed in America in what is now known as Mexico and Central America and it has been documented its existence since 32BCE. I’m aware that India discovered it first but the two civilizations had no connections whatsoever.
It's funny when you say that Al-Khwarizmi is Persian, but at the same time you put the picture (in minute 2:30) in which Al-Khwarizmi himself says that his lineage goes back to the Quraish tribe 😂😂
bro kharazem is in his name located in north east of iran all the way to centeral asia bukhara samarkand etc
Indian marhematiciams aryabhatta, brahmaguota,bbhaskara developed addition, multiplication, subtractikn, division , fractions...(decimal fractions by european mathematicisn sevant).
Brahmasputha siddhanta translated by H T Colebrooke
3:05 - _"...which would extend ... to the NORTHERN shores of the Iberian Peninsula"_ , while the graphics CLEARLY shows SOUTHERNS shores. Something to ponder, innit?
The 16th century! Woah. 😊
In tamil literature belongs to sangam literature ~3 BC to 3 AD,mention zero, 1/4, 1/2, &3/4, they named zero as 0️⃣ Pall, that means nothing,
But how exactly did humans come up with the first numerical system? It seems to random and advanced to be a creative thought process of one or more individuals imo
Was it guided by a otherworldly force or is it a simple as we had to come up with a measuring system to improve our quality of life?
What is this word peasan at 445ish
An interesting video but given your accent it sounds like you may be English i.e. From the UK or GB or whatever you may consider it as. Therefore I invite you to check out Adelard of Bath who was the real person who spread awareness of "Arabic Numbers" plus a lot of other Arab enlightened scientific thought across the post 1066 William the Conqueror Europe of France and the UK.
He travelled to the Arab world and spent 5 years learning to read and write in several languages. When he returned he became known as the "Go to Guy" to understand why some Nations and Cultures were so far ahead in all the Sciences. He was tutor to the English King and was exceptional in that he was a Monk who also believed in educating women who were generally excluded from any kind of advanced education.
It was hundreds of years later before women were even allowed to study and get a Degree! He is largely unknown because he was not a Self-publicist" which we all know is the secret of being Famous for inventing anything.
Always Counting.
5:00 Picard SMFH
were we in 2dimension thinking 123456789 till 0 next dimension marker?
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World forgot our(Indian) contribution.😢
And now on we write the numbers differently.
These are numbers of moroccan origin compiled by Ibn al_yasmine in the ninth century .and papa Sylvester pubilshed them in Europe because he studied at the University of Qarawin in Fez they are called dusty numbers
up down positive negative calculation
Arabs are really amazing ❤❤ انا عربي😂
For stoling inventions
NUMBER SYSTEM HAVE IT ORIGINS IN INDIA.
numer xumer runic all connected puzzle
Can't believe the numbers we use today are not from the ethnic who created the ABC letters and they were both easy, I wonder if Arabics now swap 123 to I, II and III, did they?
I came to watch this, because of new years eve and new years day having the number 1 each, 1 and 31, but I thought if it was ever my lucky number 3, then it would of been 3 2 1 if backwards way the timeline went.
Tamil nadu numbers South India❤
Brahmagupta was born in Bhinmal, Rajasthan. Tamils have this weird obsession of claiming everything as theirs with random ass made up stuff.
@@vignesh1065 Tamil is world oldest language and ostralogy all Tamil
@@lakshmanang6840 yes it is. I don't deny that, but the positional number system was not a tamil invention.
Hindi is other countries language like Arabic Sanskrit mixing language Tamil own country language Aryans not a Indians
@@vignesh1065 It is not Sanskrit is. So many times it gets proven but don't know why these Tamilians keep living in delusion that Tamil is oldest.
There is some controversy as to who invented zero, recent research shows zero came from Mesopotamia. However, it may have been reinvented in India later. The first recorded zero appeared in Mesopotamia around 3 B.C. The Mayans invented it independently circa 4 A.D. It was later devised in India in the mid-fifth century, spread to Cambodia near the end of the seventh century, and into China and the Islamic countries at the end of the eighth.
Even if Mayans used zero, it didn't arrive in India from Americas as India had no contact with America that time. Also it's just based on specualtion that Mayans used a zero. So the origin of the zero still lies in India and it spread from there
Bro you are totally wrong and manipulated
Mayans used zero since 32BCE
There is nothing arabic about these numbers
You should call them hindu number only
Valuable information but still does not explain the origin of numbers.
So the "style" of the modern "Arabic" numerals 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. was finalized thanks to the printing press?
Because every time I see the early Arabic numerals used in Europe they look a bit different than today's numbers.
You must look the original hindu numerals,where all of them originated,they are in use in india and one can easily find the similarities 😁
Yes, same with the letter we use today, many languages lost a couple letters due to printing press standardization, english IIRC lost its thorn
@@nopek1405 but muslims improved it and spread it to the world
@@nopek1405 instead of using indian's original, india use the muslim version
@@asmrnaturecat984 sorry, non of indian languages use the modified version of original indian numerals.
It is Just that india also teach its students, English language and hence while those who study maths in English language are provided with the modified version of indian numerals but when Indian students study maths in Indian languages, they learn it by using original indian numerals.
Please get your facts right sir.
Crazy how Muslims in middleast east were so rich academically 1000 of years ago ❤️
Albert Einstein: We owe a lot to the Indians who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made!
@@rahulpaturkar1425 thank you for iphone india 😁
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH the IPhone is based on the binary system which includes Zero and one given by Indians!.
@@rahulpaturkar1425 as far as i remember greeks and arabs invented the mathematics.
@@HinduPAGANcowpissdrinkerRAKESH they didn't invented but copied from ancient Indians. As Arabs stolen the Hindu numerals!. As the video mentions , you can't do serious maths with Roman numerals! Romans were scared of Zero!!
Lol.
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i thought arabic numerals were the origin but arabs copied that from indians🤣🤣
this comment is very funny
Muslims used to be the fathers of math and medicine ❤
It was Indians. We knew maths and medicine way before Islam came into the world.
Lol 😂
Arabs kept stealing knowledge from Greeks, Persians and Indians and kept taking credit which has extended to modern day as well.
Nunber system invented by hindus nit arabs
copying from brahmi numerals🤣🤣
The numbering system was invented much before Arabs came in. Stop stealing Bharat's achievements. it is not Hindu-arabic. It is just Bharatia. For once stop acting like a colonizer. Even gravity and Pythagoras' theorem were invented in Bharat much before Europeans.
NUMBER SYSTEM, DECIMAL NUMBER SYSTEM, AND NEGATIVE NUMBER SYSTEM WERE GIVEN BY HINDUS.
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What if they will write 10 as some another char, we would have just 11 digits lol
Arabic no full copy of hindu number system
Lol copy you really don’t know how trade of ideas work do you? People adopt and exchange ideas which leads to further development of those ideas Indian numbers were picked up by Muslims then moved to Europe without Muslims contribution we might not be using numbers globally like we do today
@@umaryusuf537 Bro you question them who invented Zero.
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These are the actual numbers invented by Brahmgupta. Brahmgupta also devloped zero but it was invented by Aryabhatt.
I appreciate the so called Golden era of Islam but now you people are nothing but suicide bombers and killers and Converters.