Almost Perfect - Steam Deck OLED Review
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0:00 Intro
1:28 It's Beautiful
4:10 But Valve lied!
5:00 Math is hard
6:29 Benchmarks
7:55 Other Externals
10:31 What about the guts?
13:49 The Line-up
16:22 Outro - Věda a technologie
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Very cool Linus
@@UncleFredHasRizzLatvia 🥶
@@UncleFredHasRizzGo beg somewhere else.
Aren't the batteries the same as in cell phones? If so doesn't charging to 100% harm the battery? Isn't the 30/90 rule better for it?
@@dbomber69 Isn't that a thing with all batteries?
A moment of silence for those who just bought a normal steam deck recently.
i share your pain
Yeah. I'm pissed but its still a great device
got it when it first dropped I guess the only upside is if you hang onto OG devices long enough like a game boy SP < hard to find an they can be expensive
this device will end up being worth more in the long run.
Words can’t describe how broken I am
I mean, i got mine at the last sale for 329, its still 220 dollars cheaper than the OLED one. I guess its not that bad if you see it that way
Impressive how Valve kept this a secret until the press review day.
I think this shows what a great company valve is to work for. The people are genuinely excited about the stuff they work on and don't want to spoil the surprise. (I know that a room full of lawyers and NDAs probably helps too)
It did get leaked...
...about 30 seconds before being officially announced, lmfao
I mean everyone knew they were working on something and that’s it’s coming soon just didn’t know when
It's impressive how Valve managed to release a new version without even bothering to ever sell the old one in Australia.
@@leogrievous They're also a (relatively) small company for what they do. Certainly makes it much easier to control things like leaks.
It's amazing how great companies can be when they focus on satisfying consumers, not shareholders
The big secret is that you can please shareholders by pleasing consumers. It's tragic how few companies have clued into the obvious fact that being pro consumer can make people want to pay you more money than they need to.
@@awesomeferret Kinda. But pleasing customers usually means taking risks and looking long term. But especially with investors that are there just for money, they might not understand all the decision or just don't care, since what they are doing is playing stocks game. They are just going to jump ship if those risks fail or they might even interfere to put some cutthroat CEO in place to cut costs, which will short term bring things up.
From Valves point of view, everything about this is fucking genius. They can reuse almost everything they already manufactured (new base model is basically just stock of the old models) and dont break compatibility with most stuff most people care about and make the experience a lot better for everyone. Really nicely done! I‘m honestly super impressed with this, and that‘s not even primarily looking at the actual improvements to the device.
They're clever enough to try and downgrade the SRGB feature for original Deck model to try and make the new OLED model seem more desirable. Sneaky company indeed.
If you watch the tear downs of the units though not really. They changed ton of internals, from colors, to sizes, to just new equipment in general. It’s definitely a whole new machine in there to the extent.
@@MelodyMecato6156 they actually made the colors BETTER on the original steamdeck.
All about profit.. I bet these companies have the technology to make a steamdeck at the level of a ps5 or xbox one x. But they wouldnt probably win so mutch profit for going so advanced up.
But thats just my thought.
Nintendo did it first….
But Apple proved the concept was possible before Nintendo
LTT had more communication with Valve for this review than Valve typically has with the public in a year.
I'm just glad we even know about that
They definitely know their target audience
Valve is the shy guy here that only talk to his only friend.
So true. Meanwhile, the back button in Steam is still broken after months.
Valve when their community is causing ww3 due to lack of games and the rise of cheating:😴
Valve when Linus tech tips asks about their new oled realizing their greedy asses can make more money: 😄
I love Steam's dedication to customers. Everything changed here is EXACTLY what we've been asking for, even down to the metal screw housings. The only thing I don't like is the fact I bought mine a couple of months ago...
I got mine like 3 weeks ago... it's somewhat annoying but maybe then I'll wait for next generation.
@@GuuMonstersell it and buy the new one seems worth
@@GuuMonster i got one yesterday.
Edit. nvm its not going to be sold in my country anyway.
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@@herb4206triple F
13:19 For what it's worth, I like that Valve actually explained their design decisions. Between that, the unlocked bootloader, the improvements to repairability and their countless contributions to free/libre open source software, they show a lot of good faith for their customer base as a whole.
The fact that they made their product to be serviced and modded by the end user is amazing. Unlike everyone else who uses special screws and absurd amounts of adhesive. Great looking unit
It really blows my mind that so many other handheld makers put 1080p, 1200p, etc... screens in these handhelds when the resolution increase isn't that noticeable, but severely impacts other arguably more important aspects of the device like performance and battery life.
marketing and stupidity goes hand in hand nowadays
you can just…maybe lower the resolution if needed?
@@survischannel powering so many pixels still costs energy, even if you render at lower resolution.
@@survischannelthen you lost fidelity ~ sharp image
That's because Pixel density is more important than resolution
Valve is absolutely killing it in the hardware space
Thank god they are open source and pro right of repair
Now let's only hope rumors are true, namely the launch of a Valve Index Pro next July.
While they do fund and make use of many open source projects, much of their own software is not.
None of their game engines are open source, Steam is not open source, and while CAD files for the Deck are available, none of the Deck's hardware components are open source, and SteamOS 3 as a whole is not fully open source.
@@BlueSatoshiso everything except things that would cost them monumental amounts of money? Sounds pretty fucking good to me
utterly disappointed they launched their ''steam deck 2'' only offering a a screen upgrade, while its cpu and gpu are quickly getting outdated and getting demolished by competition. The steam deck cant even get acceptable FPS in new titles such as Alan wake 2 and Starfield. They couldve upped the GPU to the 780m that almost all competitor handhelds are sporting right now, but no, a better screen that the outdated hardware won't be able to utilize.
@@JimCreeper No one is forcing you to buy it. There are several other options out there!
I am not going to complain about minor upgrades that make life better, allow older accessories to still be used and it does not cost (much) more than the original. And what they are doing for gaming on Linux is impressive as hell.
Indeed, having to escape the micro soft grip (heh) is nice.
@@helloukw cope
@@mattmaas5790God someone salty 😅
The jump from 60 to 90 Hz on the display is something that should not be overlooked.
Yet, the low 800p should not be overlooked as well. So many compromises with this device.
@@mattmaas5790 1080p requires more power and battery. It's a net LOSS with the current hardware available and wouldnt meet the price point. Have you ever actually played on the deck? it looks sharp as hell at 800p honestly. and it runs games better for longer than the competitors in many cases at lower power. BTW every handheld has compromises
@@mattmaas5790There’s spec sheet number and there’s experience you get when you actually use it.
Something close example would be sony, apple devices. They’re always simple and low on spec sheet value but the value increases exponentially when you actually use it.
Similarly the screen is low res because it’s native resolution the APU run games on. You won’t get blurry look on 1080p or 1440p unless they make custom 1600p screen which would require re engineering and make device more expensive.
It would result in lower battery life, more heating and poor performance. What they did is make a balance of these things to deliver good device.
@@mattmaas5790 800p is more than usable at this size. stop crying, if you dont like the product, don't buy it. Oled + HDR 1000 nits peak clears your delusion
@@mattmaas5790 Battery life and performance or resolution? choose one.
I think the big thing to come from this is the price drop of the 256GB LCD model. The $399 model is now actually usable without having to spend extra for a microSD card or another SSD to replace the one it comes with, and it really puts pressure on the competition to either drop prices or to figure out how to justify their higher prices.
not really, you get like 50% more performance on the lenovo go. thats a big detractor for the steam deck
@@KnockOut101incyeah, but the entire experience is significantly worse on any Widows based handheld. With Steamdeck you can press a button to send it to sleep, come hours or days later, press the button and in a couple of seconds continue playing from where you were. I wouldn't trade Steamdeck overall experience even for twice performance and resolution. The most demanding AAA games I run on the desktop anyway, but for anything else Steamdeck is just perfect.
@@KnockOut101inc I get the performance point but the steam deck wins about basically every other aspects
@@zigmar7 you can pause a game too on windows with hibernate mode. I always do that since forever with my laptop
me personally what I miss from steam os is just the launcher and control settings.. other than that I prefer windows bcs I can instal other game launcher effortlessly and run any cool windows program like mod tools and community software
You can install windows on Deck. It’s super easy. I didn’t even have to wipe the internal storage. It runs off a SD card. The only problem is SD cards are slow AF like an old ass laptop HDD. It makes the Steam deck feel slower than it really is. But I was able to play Starfield on it. It was playable at the lowest settings if you don’t mind 20 to 25 FPS.
Using windows is not so bad on Deck it opens up games that are not supported by Steam OS and Game Pass games. That’s how I played Starfield, through Game Pass.
The only thing is the Steam Deck is so slow. Sometimes painfully slow. Battery life of original is 2 hours tops to 60 minutes for high demanding games.
One cool thing you didn't mention is that apparently the screen can now be removed without taking the steam deck apart to the same extent. This should make repairing the device and doing case swaps much easier.
Apparently? 😂…. No.
This would be important considering that even the best modern OLED panels will have burn in over extended use. For a machine that will likely see decades of use to some extent from enthusiasts (people are still actively using Gameboys 40 years later), it's nice to know it won't be a hassle to swap out / replace/ upgrade the screen when the time comes.
@@lovelymusicnow4404 Apparently... Yes
"Yet the biggest improvement to repairability would be that the Steam Deck OLED will no longer require you to remove the backplate if you need to replace the screen display. As iFixit's screen replacement guide points out, users will need to open the back of the original Steam Deck and remove things such as the motherboard and the heatsink just to remove the gadget's display properly."
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Check the guy who left an OLED switch on with the same image for 2 years straight. The burn-in takes way longer than you think@@ThisUploaded
@@ThisUploaded yes and not look at asus oled laptop taskbar autohide pixel shit a whole bunch of stuff you can't disable . I also had plenty of samsung oled smartphone and zero burn in. Oled is not the same that 7 years ago it's miles better
I appreciate the new charts very much. The highlighting is very helpful. I hope you iterate more on it as I think there are plenty of improvements to be had.
Valve underselling themselves and then beating their own expectations in every benchmark is such a breath of fresh air. So many companies lie and make a 10% improvement seem like a 30% improvement, which soils what would be a reasonable generational improvement.
The 1TB is actually an insane value, a 1TB SSD was already around $100 anyway so buying the 512gb version to upgrade it doesn’t really make sense anymore
You can buy 2 TB NVMe SSDs for something like $40-$80. $100? Chief, their prices fell off a CLIFF.
@@LoganChristianson Those are full length m.2 2280s. The much smaller 2230s that fit the Steam Deck still cost $150-200 for 2TB.
form factor 2230, please post a link, they are much more expensive@@LoganChristianson
the prices are actually rising because Samsung/micron has slowed the production atm.@@LoganChristianson
@@LoganChristiansonShow me where you can buy a 2tb ssd for 40$. Its litterly imposible. Houre just making stuff up for internet points and to try to sound smart
Easily one of the best stealth launches I've seen in 30 years of computing.
Yep, I just feel bad for everyone buying this who can afford a normal gaming PC and android tablet which is sooo much better.
@@mattmaas5790 You clearly missed the point of this product. Most people getting the deck already have a stronger gaming-capable PC and want to be able to play games from their Steam library (which you can't do on android natively) while on-the-go.
@@mattmaas5790 Steam Deck is made for a very specific audience don't hate em cuz they aren't one of you.
@@mattmaas5790 Damn, it must be one heck of a tablet if it can run Cyberpunk 2077 and Doom Eternal as smooth as the Steam Deck.
@speedytruck the steam deck runs those games like shit. 800p 20 fps is not impressive at all. Wtf ?
Released at an ideal time after the Legion Go, which gives competition to the ROG Ally (the Extreme Z1 SKU), and now we can see all the best these can offer before Christmas. If I hadn't bought a gaming laptop already, now I'm waiting for this one to come out before choosing one or the other.
Did you get one? The OLED deck runs like a dream!
I bought mine back in April rip luckily it still works amazing and I love it. I'll just wait another year or two before upgrading.
This makes me incredibly happy. Mainly because with valve aiming for HDR on the steamdeck there is a chance for better HDR support to trickle down into other linux distros.
It's not a chance. It's a certain. They have sponsored, helped with achieving several recent Linux desktop improvements already, mainly in relation to KDE plasma.
KDE Plasma 6 is working on getting HDR.
I mean it is already there. In alpha sure, but it is there. Only for AMD GPU`, sure, but it's there. Jokes aside it has been a feature being worked on since a while in KDE and GNOME already.
This is a HUGE deal! The crummy screen was my biggest gripe with the Steam Deck, so getting not just an OLED display, but a well done HDR experience is nuts! And the extra battery life and the increase in storage is a nice touch! This is an instant game changer for games like Persona 5 Royal, where the black and red UI elements look absolutely stunning on OLED displays :D
And 90hz, don't forget.
Now you can play your potato graphics 23fps games with higher brightness and better contrast ratio 😂
@@charlierose1708 😐😐😐
Its only in usa and canada
@@paatuAs always, no surprise there. In most of the world, the Steam Deck has to be imported from the US.
I actually prefer it still be at 800p res so that it keeps the frames the same. The one thing I've always wished the steam deck could've had is a 800p OLED screen with a little faster refresh rate for games that aren't as hard to run and the menus.
I have a 1440p oled screen it legit looks like 4k
So dumb. The screen could be higher resolution and you could still choose to run it at 800p and get benefits.
@@mattmaas5790but 800p native looks better
Just so you're aware, the new OLED screen is 90hz.
ik thats why i like it@@SolidSt8Dj
Imagine thinking you need 1080p + on a 7.4inch display lol.
So many reasons why the resolution that was chosen makes sense in this package.
The only argument I've heard that is compelling for a 1080p is that it's better for fsr and other upscalers then 720p.
@@Spencerwalker21 Fair point but regardless, it's a tiny screen that doesn't really need to be upscaled to begin with.
I was actually curious and played on my laptop in windowed mode and made the window about 7 inches big, set the resolution to 720p and it was perfect at that size. Rather have lower resolution with great battery life for a device that is centered around playing on the go.
When I owned a Wii, I thought it was 720p but it turned out to be 480p all along. We've come a long way.
A review less than a minute after the announcement? Yessir.
Edit as comments pointed out: embargo
And from digital foundry as well wooo
Right? It's like as if reviewers had personal copies to review and release the video at the end of the embargo 🤔
You mean I had to wait 60 seconds cancel him
It's called embargo. Look it up
@@thunderarch5951 Usually a product is revealed and then it takes a while for the embargo to end. But Valve had enough confidence in their product to lift the embargos when the product was revealed, which is rarely how embargos go.
One thing I think needs mentioning is the significance of the 90 Hertz screen, not because a lot of games will be running at 90, but because a lot will be running at 40 or 45. The Steam Deck community has largely embraced the "golden 40" as a frame and refresh rate that is not that much more intensive to run than 30, but goes halfway to 60 in terms of frametimes, making it the optimal experience for games where hitting a native 60 isn't possible.
The only problem is, you're downlocking the screen to 40 hertz for it, and so if a frame of those 40 is slightly late, you're waiting a whole 25 ms of stutter for the next one, compared to just 16.6 ms if running 30fps @ 60 hz. With a 90 hertz screen running at 80, that 40fps frame coming in slightly late is gonna halve that stutter time to 12.5 ms, which is HUGE in practice. Great choice!
Great observation! 40hz is pretty good when perfectly paced but frame skips are horrible
True, but if the new screen doesn’t support VRR, then how are we going to play games at 60 fps, then?
Adjusting the refresh rate to 60Hz
@@genna87 Isn’t the screen then still going to keep refreshing at 90 Hz?
@@ThePC007 the steam deck has a handy software slider where you can adjust the screen's refresh rate from anywhere between 40 to the max 60hz
3:15 Valve was afraid that the Steam Deck is gonna try to get some more cupcakes.
The 90 fps is what really gets me. You guys have to see a game displayed side by side vs og deck… the difference in display size is very noticeable
I think this is what will convince me to FINALLY order a Steam Deck through any means necessary and ship it down under. I was already spoiled with OLED on my phone and now on my Switch, and having a handheld PC with an OLED display just means that I will soon be adding it to my collection.
Probably same, waited because the normal one had shitty battery life, and screen was meh.. people scream for more performance but forget battery is like the most important thing on a portable device. Unless you only use it at home but buy a laptop/console at that point if you wanna game in the bed/couch imo
Can you get it in Australia? I checked and they weren’t shipping it…
@@juraj_bthsts why hes saying he will get it and THEN hace it shipped down under....lots of reshippers online. i use one for some stuff that our state says are legal to buy and possess but not ship in the mail even though theyre legal in 49 othet states
@@juraj_bI assume that's where the "through any means necessary" comes in. Same story here in NZ (I imagine we'll get it when you do), but if you have contacts in parts of the world where it's available then anything's possible.
You can buy the steam deck from Kogan
This is not quite enough for me to upgrade, but that's only because I already love my steam deck so much. I'm always glad to see that valve is really putting their all into this new platform.
I have the 512gb version already but damn I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want the 1tb version since it’s the same price
I'm in the same boat as you but add not having disposable income
I feel so bad, I want that OLED and better battery but putting like 400€ on top of my old Steam Deck would be too much to upgrade.
At least I expect fsr 3.0 to improve the Steam Deck in performance.
I hope they enable replacing the old steam deck screen with an oled. I don't want to get rid of my old deck.
@@imanoldurango8213 ited be perfect if we could just return and add money and have them resale....oh wait brb lol.......nvm yea still not worth it lol but gives me great hope for the next SD2
How does the anti-glare etched glass compares to the non-anti-glare etched glass OLED? Does it makes the display washed out? I want to get the 1TB Limited Edition, but I hate matte OLED screens, and I fear that this screen is going to look bad with this "coating".
Just got an OLED for Christmas today, it’s so damn nice
Mine just came before I got off work. FEELS AMAZING!
*Inhales Deck steam from vents*
The fact that they didn't do any real price increases for this thing is actually AMAZING! Genuinely thinking about getting a Steam Deck at some point in the future now because of this as that is insane. Not to mention PROPER 1k nit HDR!
they don't need to charge. People buy Steam games if they buy the Steam Deck anyway
@@MrQuay03 can confirm, practiclly stopped buying games on any other platform (including the switch for that matter) when I got a steam deck. They of course might still work but it's just a so much bigger hassle now than just running the steam version (not to mention I've bought like 4 times the amount of games this year, the year I got my steam deck, than the last few years)
@@MrQuay03yeah I’m definitely gonna grab it
I was got one and instantly regretted it once I saw the Legion go was coming out 😢
Trackpads have been upgraded significantly too, and you can tell they are slightly more raised off the chassis than the original ones.
Based on Bill from The Nerd Nest's first impressions stream, as well as Gardiner Bryant, they do truly seem to be a significant improvement, especially when combined with the new haptics.
those upgrades sound so nice, i'm tempted to get a second deck/sell the old one... it's a shame that the transparent one can't be bought in europe though 😕
I appreciate the colour cycling when talking about performance bar charts. Thank you!
I love the fact they are bringing back the translucent shells for the exclusive one! I miss old controllers and Gameboys having those translucent cases of different colors
Shame it's only available in the US and Canada though :'(
Not in UK 🥺
Valve: Offers limited special edition and translates the site for that into a gajillion of languages
Also Valve: US and Canada only.
See limted edition.
Falls in love with it.
Checks steam to see when it can be bought.
Sees the product with big disclaimer.
Very disappointed with this. Valve supports very few countries officially with their hardware and they still can't offer the limited edition outside US and Canada?!
I bought a translucent shell for mine. It's nice. I had to go with the old school purple lol
This is what mid refresh device should look like. This is awesome.
I'm kinda curious how they could even do a late refresh, I mean it has the latest and greatest tech to date now. I guess they could include a 2tb or even 4tb NVMe if that comes out by then.
@@Mantis_TobogganProbably better power efficiency for the APU and maybe a 1080p screen as well
One things for sure, when they eventually drop a SD2 it’s going to be mind blowing
The thumbsticks being changed sounds good. I had to get little rubber covers for mine because they didn't feel good, they felt tiny and thin. I don't use the touch sensors on the joysticks for anything anyway.
Sick!! Thanks for all the details on those internals guys!
I'm totally jealous of the people who don't have a Steam Deck yet and are picking one of these up! The Steam Deck was already amazing and these upgrades really push it to the next level. Definitely not enough for me to consider upgrading though lol
Yes! I still don't have one. I was willing to accept the 60hz and LCD panel but I really wanted 1TB of storage because for me 512GB is extremely limited. This far surpassed my expectations for sure 😁
Yeah especially those of us who pre-ordered the first OG model at a $700 price point if I recall correctly.
@@hugopereira5640just throw an SSD in, it's easy peasy. I love my deck, it's made me love games again
Thx the universe I wait for Black Friday because I want the timing to be near my birthday in December 🎉🎉❤❤❤
Ya, got one semi early on and this one is a great improvement! Glad to see that there is more to come lol.
The deck was already well worth it, now it’s only even more so.
Seems to me that valve is doing everything they can to not "over promise" on anything steam deck related. And honestly that is refreshing. Also I am going to buy a new one. Mine has already been a hit with the wife
Well this isn't the deck 2.0 so yeah
I had to read that twice, I thought your wife's head broke the steam Deck or something like that 😂
Love this channel been member for years and still can't get enough love all you from UK
I got the original one on clearance and i dont think ill have regrets. Sure the oled one has improvements but i couldnt afford it but now i get a slightly older version that i can afford and my dreams of playing pc games on the pooper will be reality.
The improvements in design with this are looking pretty great! It's clear that Valve has people that are passionate about the steam deck working on it. Even as someone that mainly plays on Xbox, seeing this kind of work going into a relatively niche product gives me a reason to look forward to seeing what Valve does with consoles moving forward.
I wouldn't call the Steam Deck niche. More of my friends own a Steam Deck than any other console. But we're PC gamers so that isn't surprising I guess.
@setaindustries That's kind of why I would call it niche. It mostly apeals to a subset of PC gamers, which, while large, is still just a subset of gaming as a whole. A large percentage of people have heard of an Xbox, Playstation, or Switch, but outside of the enthusiast gaming community I don't think it is super well known. That could definitely change with the next generation of steam deck if Valve continues to take this product seriously.
@@setaindustries most people who see me other than my pc friends think i have a switch at first until i tell them, we pc gamers may know what a steamdeck is but trust me it's niche.
you might even say Valve has people that are passionate about gaming, that is, passionate gamers
@@devbot99That's why we need to spread the word. The Steam Deck is honestly an incredible product and is a perfect first step for people to experience the limitless possibilities of PC gaming without breaking the bank.
This weight, battery and screen improvement is totally what I wanted on my current steam Deck. Is there an easy to way trade in for discount? 90hz screen will be so nice. Hopefully the next one in a couple years actually get a huge performance boost because these games are really pushing the limit on the current hardware.
I hope they offer it as a replacement part; I don't want to have to trade mine in
sad 😭😭
@@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson It's impossible sadly. The internals are updated and the screen size is slightly larger
Nope they want you to just buy another one 😂
Probably going to have to sell old one at a loss and get the new model
That “take that sony” was personal. He’s speaking on my behalf 😭
One slight mistake, the mid tier 512GB OLED does not come with the two part case, that is only for the 1TB. I'll probably get the OLED over the Rog Ally, but will go Windows if they sort out the software and SD card in the next gen.
Despite them announcing that an actual 2.0 is in the works but 2-3 years off still, I think ill be picking this mid gen refresh. Double the storage for both mid and high tier for roughly the same prices is fantastic to hear
The beauty of the steam deck is that a new generation of console doesn’t mean that the old turns obsolete. New titles will still run on it, just not as good. If you want to play the latest 2D indie titles on your “old” console you can! And you can for a long long time. That’s a big difference compared to traditional consoles where development stops usually within the year for most major titles and after a few years the digital store shuts down. Because the steam Deck is so open, you can use it so long as you want. Even with latest software if you’re willing to service it yourself.
Did they really say it's only 2-3 years? That would be awesome so I don't need to upgrade now.
@@ryanlunzen9794 Yeah they talked about it today
@@ryanlunzen9794 That's what I'm thinking too, I'm not really in a position to buy one right now if the next version is only 2-3 years away by the time I am it would probably be better to wait. I might get a bigger ssd in the meantime. I wonder if the screens compatible if so maybe picking up a replacement might be worth it.
@@ryanlunzen9794its not awesomw, in 2-3 years they will barely be able to run the newest games....lucmily we will have the switch 2
I was not expecting a new Steamdeck model announcement that is so cool! I am almost jealous. Good for valve for making more!
I think I'm finally gonna buy one of these. I find myself using my switch lite quite a bit these days but miss playing certain PC only games that are steam deck approved
Lol at the intro to the video. Watched a video about FF7 and clicked over to this video and was like, why do it still shows the cc from the last video and looked up and saw Aerith and... WTF. Thank you for included my favorite game of all time in your video! ❤️
It would’ve been so awesome and valve allowed to do like a trade-in program where you can trade in your steam deck for the OLED version with a heavy discount that would be kind of neat
I sure hope so… because I got mine literally 3 months ago 😭
It would be so great if people just randomly gave me money
@@astronemirI will donate you 1 cent
I'm too attached to my "Clone Of The Kingdom" Deck now to even think about trading it x) Thanks Dbrand haha
They could refurbish the old ones and sell them for much cheaper while making the new ones more attractive for people who already have the old one
Really makes me wish I waited to get one... but at the same time, I'm super excited for what a Steam Deck 2 could entail
Fr. The 1tb model is the same price rn as the 512gb which is the one I have. Definitely wish I would’ve waited :(
Same got mine in September 2022. Feels like the version the original Deck should have been.
wait until the steam deck 2 its going to have the new amd apu which is 3x better than the original steam deck and youll be able to run most games
@@NotFitz With like the same price tag, more battery efficiency, OLED and the new apu this will be nuts.
Also fsr should be way better when SD2 releases.
They fixed the major issue of the SD with the OLED and the next one is the performance and battery.
Damn that looks actually pretty interesting, was thinking about buying a medium priced "gaming" laptop for when im going on vacation or when i need to drive through half the country again, but now i think its better to wait for the oled steam deck
Who else recently bought a steam deck and is now mad that they could have gotten oled, larger screen, along with more storage for a cheaper price?
Can't wait to see a resolution + RDNA3/4 upgrade with the Steam Deck 2 as an original deck owner. Going to skip the OLED since the APU is still RDNA2. Also no hall effect joysticks are a deal breaker for me personally. Still the best option for new Deck owners however!
Yeah, I don't have a deck yet because they never launched it in my country. So now I'll wait to see if the 64/256 GB variant comes with an OLED.
Same. They took so long to come here and still aren't actually properly available only through grey marker importers. So feels like I should just wait for Deck 2.
Bummer.
Just checked as well, the oled model isn't available to order either.
The only reason I'd like resolution to increase is for readability reasons - the resolution for the game itself I'd still probably keep low. I mean, my GPD WinMax 2 has 1440p screen but I run games at 50% resolution for performance. Also some titles have issue on native 720p, the interface is not adjusted.
Well you would upgrade a monitor or TV for reasons not having to do with the performance of the device its connected to. I'd say getting this new deck would be worth it for the better display, battery life, and repairability.
I hope they will have an upgrade program.
Would love to upgrade to the OLED version but not buy a second one.
Unlikely with the whole APU/ram/board design change
There are too many responsibilities to upgrade part, maybe we can DIY it.
I'm waiting for the Steam Deck 2, it will be much more worth it in my opinion.
3:12 I can give you one reason why they didn't use EDP
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Beautiful. I don't see a need to upgrade my steam deck to this OLED version, but I love that this means Valve is moving forward with the Deck as a platform. Now that we have 2, we need to see if we'll ever get the magical number "3"...
It would be Steam Deck 2, Steam deck 2.5, Steam deck Source, Steam Deck Alyx.
Half life 3 confirmed
Steam deck 2: episode 1
I'm tempted to upgrade mine, but probably will wait for a model with higher specs or something. Super excited though with this hitting the market. Means more updates to the Steam Deck in general if more people buy it.
Actually the answer to "Valve not making a new Steam Deck" is pretty simple, this is not a new console, just and updated and upgraded version of the original, just like the Switch and Switch OLED, PS4 to PS4 Slim and Pro or Xbox One to Xbox One X|S
Finally I found videos in HDR. Thanks for it adn thanks for the one about the new Steam Deck. I'm definitely decided to buy it.
While the new upgrades seem nice, they won’t suddenly make your deck inferior, considering the changes were mostly to download speed and ram, and in game performance wasn’t much different. The older versions probably can still last a long time considering the support from Valve
but my screen is uggo compared to this one 😩
It does make it inferior. OLED and color accuracy makes a huge difference in display quality
The better screen is the biggest difference.
That and the battery is noticeable better and more useful.
@@ennayanne OLED has gotten quite good and far more reliable.
HDR@@MrQuay03
Huge respect to Valve for giving justifications for their decisions when questioned. They absolutely could have given some manufactured corporate nothing answer, and instead, we got meaningful and helpful explanations. That is an immense breath of fresh air.
Thanks Gaben for that
Great to see valve updating the AD, it will definitely help with the market growing. For me I still prefer the Rog ally but all this new hardware will only be better for us customers going forward
As a long time owner of a 256GB Deck, this sounds like a nice update, but the thing that makes me really want it is the Bluetooth 5.3 update. LE Audio can achieve lower latency without any vendor specific codecs.
That is cool! Are there any headphones out that use it?
Not to mention the new dedicated Bluetooth antenna and new support for wake-from-sleep over Bluetooth.
@@oznerol256 The Galaxy Buds2 Pro have it.
it is nice that Valve made a re-freshed model, but, to be fair, I don't think that the difference will be big enough to buy "new" Steam Deck if some one already has one. I mean It may sound silly, but I play most of my games off... SD card on my steam deck. And it is actually hard to notice difference in loading times & performance vs internal storage. Valve did some black magick here. I am more likely to buy some insane 1TB ultra fast SD card tbh lol. But if You don't have a Steam Deck and you want one badly - then of course the new version seems to be again a killer deal.
you dont think so? i will crash my wallet so fast that they wont see it
I'm more interested in the die shrink enabling completely fanless operation if you lower the power target to ~9 Watts.
man... all of those are so good... really made me jealous by how good the improvements are..
Dang, new steam deck model already? Damn, i bought mine only 2 months ago
Got mine a few weeks ago!! Gutted
I BOUGHT MINE A WEEK AGO
Is just a sceen change
I got mine July 7th lol
Damn we all were fooled 😅 I guess my brother is getting my old steam deck for Christmas man I am shocked like everyone else
Looks cool. Glad Valve is upgrading the Deck so soon. Not only will it make the hardware prices more competitive, it should also make developers start optimizing their games again. With the original model being so cheap I could see people picking one up just to try it and getting hooked.
Lol. Steam Deck is always going to be 800p, 30 fps, 1.5 hour battery life. It's never going to be better than that.
@@mattmaas5790go cry about it
@@mattmaas5790 It's not meant to be a 100% gaming experience, that's for when someone is at home on their PC. "800p, 30 fps, 1.5 hour battery life" is perfectly cromulent for portable gaming with PC games; besides, 800p looks just fine on handheld devices.
@@mattmaas5790 How petty do you have to be to reply on every comment? Do perhaps work for GDP or something? That's the only explanation I can think of why someone would dedicate so much of their time like... that.
@@speedytruck I'm helping people not waste $500 and it didn't take much time
Just got mine. This thing is so damn cool. It'll help me stop lugging around a laptop too often too.
I got my steamdeck about 2 months ago in a sale and i love it, the battery on the new one is the only thing thatd make me want to switch in a year or so.
I really don't understand why people think 720p (or in this case 800p) on a less than 8 inch screen is going to look bad. At home I have a 34 inch Acer Predator X34 that is 3440x1440. We also have a 27 inch 4K monitor as well. If you look at pixel density calculators my monitor is at about 110 pixels per inch, the 4K is at about 120 pixels, and an 8 inch 720p monitor is at above 180 pixels. Anything smaller would just be even higher. A small 720p device has higher pixel density than a 27 inch 4K monitor, and everyone preaches about how dumb those are for gaming. "Lower the resolution to 1440p and get better FPS!", but then complain that their phone is only 1080p and their handheld is only 800p.
These portable devices aren't 24 inch monitors, don't treat the resolutions like they should be. Good on Valve for lowering the resolution to a point that games can run at a decent FPS.
That limited edition looks so slick with transparent background shell and carvings
the question for me is can you fit the oled screen into the lcd modell? and is it worth it to switch?
This is all good stuff to see coming soon for the deck. Also, has anyone else had issue with their deck crashing a lot recently? I’m on stable releases and am fully up to date. I’ve had multiple games (both fully verified, and compatible) freeze randomly during a loading sequence and then crash the deck. These same games never did this before so I wanted to know if anyone else had this issue.
Nope, not a single time. I had a infinite restart loop once that I could only fix by plugging into my docking station with ethernet connected. But no crashes or freezes. Also on stable releases
Absolutely love the labs graphs and the attention directing graphics are amazing. Truly a noticeable step up.
but they didnt play crab rave
I think the main difference for this Steam Deck's refresh release is that there were no major leaks or rumors about it. Minor ones but nothing really concrete on when and the major changes. It is also a new console so we don't have mich idea on Valve's behavior in refreshes and releases. So obviously people sre caught off guard and those who just recently bought had the worst luck 😄
On one hand 2023 has just been rough with the amount of PC games that are technically a mess... but on the other hand, I look at 2023 and a device like this and can't help but say what a time to be a PC gamer.
Does the anti glare make the OLED screen any dimmer? I was thinking of getting the mid tier OLED since it doesn’t have an anti glare coating
I think the main question I still have is how many of the OLED steam deck's components (such as the joysticks, screen, battery, perhaps even mainboard) can be used in the old LCD model as part of an upgrade, because while I do like my steam deck alot, I don't really use it enough to justify getting a whole new one just for the better screen and battery life.
Edit: Ignore the screen battery drain argument, Valve literally says in the advertising material that the OLED screen uses less battery
Agreed, curious the same, maybe an upgrade could be possible one day heh, but well, the screen is larger and stuff, maybe that'd use more battery and hinder the experience.
But well, if Valve would give us potential "partial upgrade" options that'd be a huge W
@@viktor7628the screen is the exact same size, it just appears larger because the bezels are smaller
yeah I'd like to just buy the screen as an upgrade
@@ennayannecant. Oled is 7.4 inches. LCD 7.0 inches.
From a twitter post from one of the Valve Steam Deck hardware engineers, the screen can't be used with the old motherboard.
That's good for first time buyers, especially with the new 1TB upgrade. Though, the reveal was very sudden. Makes me wonder if they will do the same with the next Steam Deck..
Prospective customers: This sounds like a good deal.
Valve: This product is not available in your country.
New customers should just get a good upgradable PC. You can always stream from a PC too, so much better than having to pack the PC into a tablet form factor, with much better performance.
@@mattmaas5790Streaming isn't feasible unless you have pretty fast wifi and you completely lose the ability to play it on the go.
The Steam Deck is an absolute godsend for anyone who takes a lot of road trips, flights, etc.
@@mattmaas5790 I think that the guy who buys a Steam Deck it's not the same guy who would Stream from his PC. It's like comparing bikers to drivers. It's another niche that also intersects with PC gamers but not only.
@leozeraA1000 thats not true. Steam Deck users would love this option if they knew about it, because its better in every way than the steam deck.
I am once again torn between spending money on something I don't *really* need and FOMO
Hell yes. Now I can take this OLED SD on 30 min round trips without the need of a powerbank :)))
I'm kinda pissed cause I recently bought a 512gb Steam Deck. It's the best thing I bought in years, no doubt about it, I was also glad not to think about anything I missed getting the higher version. Peace of mind, no FOMO. And now... Idk, I feel cheated a bit.
This is a nightmare to watch.
Mine is currently on the way in post. Bought it 4 days ago.
@@6reen6uy Return it, get the better one if you want.
I bought mine last year and feel cheated, considering I had to wait over half a year to even get it. Yeah, sure it's been over 2 years since the og came out but most people have had it for less than a year due to shipping queues. I imagine a lot of people feel cheated, a trade in upgrade program would've been nice.
this would be nuts if some third party would announce a OLED+Battery upgrade kit for the already existing decks. twice so if Valve themselves would open up the possibility of doing so by selling the parts themselves
It has new internals too, just bite the bullet on this one
Hopefully Ifixit
Bezels are different tho?
@@etherealhawktotal size of the display is the same, so the new display should fit in the old deck
That would ruin business for valve. If people just do upgrades instead of buying the new decks, that'll make this steam deck oled launch useless and a complete waste of money and resources. Just get a new deck.
Ok Valve, you sold me...need to get the pennies together and get this thing.
Glad I waited definitely picking one up
Wow nice heads-up Valve! I was just shopping for a steamdeck so I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger as now I can either get a OLED or a cheaper older unit 😅
Do it bro
Nah get a real upgradable PC steam deck sucks in comparison and feels 3 gen behind. 800p 30 fps vs 4k 120 fps Or 1440p 120 fps. Super super far behind.
Buy the new Oled be crazy to get the older model now, resale value be so much higher too.
Ebay is flooded with the older models, probably giving them away free soon 😂
wow that some amazing little tweaks, a part of me is kinda hoping they release kits to upgrade your gen 1 steam decks with these new upgrades, especially the APU. thats my biggest hope since you can take it out, to just upgrade parts just like a computer build. we'll see if they can make it possible in the future, fingers cross
Would the shipping time take as long as the current suggested 1-2 weeks that's listed on the original model?
Uuuhh lovely, thanks for HDR video to truly make that SD’s HDR OLED screen shine better and more accurately
damn man i just picked up a 512gb model last month, if i known this be coming along i woulda just waited for the oled model with the 1tb..
sorry bro
Interesting stuff. I'm curious how it perfoms in terms of audio. While I really love this device and used it a lot, I always seem to have problems with audio. Not recognizing headphones, not recognizing microphones, wether they are connected via input jack or bluetooth. Glad to hear that they work on so much stuff. Will probably upgrade, if they bring a higher resolution screen and reduce some weight.
The new one is a few percent lighter. Not a huge amount, but every but counts. Also the new display will higher resolution due to the color resolution, even though pixel count us the same.
Once I tinkered with contrast and saturation on my LCD version I thought it popped much more than I'd expect for that resolution.
I think the 800p is just fine for the device. I love the direction they are going with more efficient hardware/battery economy with a focus on a console experience, consumer friendly device. Which is something the pc space is desperately needing.
Text is a little jagged on my deck, so it'd be nice to see something like 1440x900 on the 2nd gen. We were all happy with that on 13-inch laptops for a long time.
@@spacetoast7783 I think that would be nice tbh. 900p seems like the sweet spot.
Man you are wrong at every point. Trying to pack a whole computer into a body of a steam deck is highly inefficient and compromises gaming quite a bit. 800p 30 fps is a shit result and the heat and battery life are still bad. The whole idea is a fail imo when streaming from a regular PC in 4k 60fps or 120 fps is so much better and easily attainable using DLSS, and uses much less battery life.
@@mattmaas5790 dude the whole point is to have a handheld gaming console that can natively run games as well as stream them. That's why people have the opinion of the playstation handheld already being a flop because its portable gaming but what... you can't leave the living room? the house? what's the point? The steam deck is portable pc gaming and the tech is only getting better.
@@mattmaas5790wow youre missing the point of it.... hating just to hate