Plant-Based Meat Substitutes Put to the Test
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Are meat substitutes healthy? What are the effects of plant-based meats on premature puberty, childhood obesity, and hip fracture risk?
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• Are Pea and Soy Protein Isolates Harmful? (nutritionfacts....)
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• What About the Heme in Impossible Burgers? (nutritionfacts....)
• Does Heme Iron Cause Cancer? (nutritionfacts....)
• Heme-Induced N-Nitroso Compounds and Fat Oxidation (nutritionfacts....)
• Is Heme the Reason Meat Is Carcinogenic? (nutritionfacts...)
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I used to work in a lab that studied precocious puberty and not once did anyone look at diet. It's really amazing how much the scientific community can overlook and not even know it. I'm glad I finally found this channel! I just wish I could go back in time and tell my boss about this 13 years ago. Maybe it would have helped. He's retired now.
If I broke a bone whilst doing something really boring... could we call it an un-hip fracture?
I'll see myself out.
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PercivalBlakeney
HAHAHA! Jokes, yeah? OK, I'll do one. Um...If you hopped and broke your hip you would have done a hip hop...err...fracture.
I'll see myself out too.
@@Steven-ze2zk
Q.What do you call a thermos, who goes around saying,"Hey man, that's groovy"?
A. A hip flask.
Nurse! The screens!
Thanks Jack.
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I look forward to your videos every day.
Awesome video been wanting to see this. Plant based meats have been a huge stepping stone for me going all plant based. Impossible burger is amazing I love it so does my kid.
Black beans for the win
I'm currently transitioning to veganism, these videos are so helpful. Thank you.
Good for you! Be sure to add fiber gradually and drink a lot of extra water as you do so. Check out Wheezy Waiter's video of his 30 day vegan challenge. He learned the hard way.
Transveganism, it's an accepted thing now...
@@Joseph1NJ When I hear someone say that they eat less meat than they used to, I say-
Good. Keep it up and you'll be vegan before you know it!
When I say transitioning it mean I'm trying to use up all the non-vegan food I already have. the majority of pantry stuff I'm just gonna give to my sister since she has a friend in need.
@@Skypost4ever Food banks often take donations.
Bottomline.......highly processed commercial veggie meat substitutes are healthier than meat, but not nearly as healthy as simply eating unprocessed veggie protein substitutes like BEANS!! ....so, don't be lazy, buy some beans and make burritos.....easy peasy~!
I'm glad I transitioned to whole food plant based in 2010.....I *embraced* my bean burgers....and still do....but there ARE some folks who do want that "meaty" texture and even sometime red coloring (beets do the job nicely)....so I do hope they use the "fake" meats as a way to make WFPB their lifestyle!
How Not to Diet is my cooking bible. I'm also educating myself with these important videos. Black bean, chickpeas and even beet burgers are tasty. I need a How NOt to Diet 2 cook book soon!
Exactly, these meat substitutes are just a stepping stone to a healthy plant based diet. Very insightful analysis as always 👏
Meat substitutes are much more than that. For those who are never going to stop processed foods then they are one solution to a 90% reduction in GHG emissions compared to meat. See Greger's other videos last week....
I gotta have cheese burgers, even plant based. Nothing satisfies like a burger. I won't give up French fries either and I've never found a baked recipe that satisfies. We are about to get an air fryer and I'll try air fried fries due to the very low amount of oil they use. I love charcoal grilled taste so I'm looking for a plant based burger that works well with a charcoal grill. I currently use Grillers by Morning Star Farms but they are so dry they aren't good on the grill. I use Daiya brand plant based cheddar cheese but it really doesn't have the extra sharp taste I crave. Spring is right around the corner so I'm looking for a better burger and cheese brand.
Glad you agree
@@chrisnamaste3572 Yes, we all agree on emissions reduction. Unfortunately there are many people out there still eating meat products and highly processed foods...I am vegan 12 years now, and to tell you the truth I started at the very beginning with meat substitutes, because of the taste. But I noticed that my taste changed a lot after becoming vegan ....and now even if I want I can't eat too often processed foods 'cause they really don't taste good to me.That's why I was saying that for me all these meat substitutes served as a stepping stone.
@@DivergentDroid yes, I feel you I have some family members who love Impossible burgers 🍔 and the air fryer is a great invention. In my family we all love air fried fries, without all that oil. 👍
Can the good old fashion TVP be part of a WFPB diet?
I need the chewiness and mushrooms are too expensive where I live
Thank you! :)
I tried some vegan Italian sausage in my stir fry yesterday and it tasted ok. But I did think that some of my other stir fry creations with beans and tempeh, etc., were probably better for you and even better tasting with a good sauce.
Thank you, Dr. Greger!!
Beyond (and Miyoko cheeses, Just Mayo and Just Egg) has been a very helpful stepping stone for me. I now eat WFPB nearly all of the time but still have ‘cheeseburgers’ (Beyond with Miyoko) on Fatboy Friday
Thanks for doing the research and posting!
0:41 I had to laugh at the recipe on the 'Protose' page for dressing...this included 2 eggs, 2 T butter and cream...kinda defeats the point of 'vegetable meat'
Thanks!
Excellent Dr. Greger, thank you!! 👈💚🌱💪
This video filled in some blanks from my past that may have also affected me when I was young as well as my health later in my life. So interesting to piece together. Wish I would have known for my daughter's sake as I have had 3 of the effects of which you just spoke. Great info doctor. Thank you.
What about seitan?
Really loving the increase in the production quality of the videos, NutritionFacts!
the future is veganism
It has to be if we want to live a healthy life.
@Deficit1080p
The only future is Veganism, if we're to have any chance of survival.
Any chance at all.
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@Deficit1080p
addendum...
"The choice is no longer between violence and non violence, it is a choice between violence and survival." Rev. Dr. M. L. King.
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Strange; there are so many MD’s - including cardiologists - out there stating the exact opposite on plant based proteins.
Morningstar Farms sausage is the best fake meat I've had. It tastes really good. But I'd personally put it in the category of vegan junk food.
Out of curiosity I tried several different kinds of plant-based meats. Tried the Impossible Burger from Burger King and some others. They do sort of taste like meat, but when I looked at the ingredient lists and saw how much fat and sodium they have these immediately dropped off my life of things I would want to eat. The one exception to that that I might eat again was the Grillers Prime from Morningstar Farms. They made some decent tasting stuff, but still I classify these things are very processed foods and as such they are not really an option for me.
When I criticized my own old diet I'd say there was not enough vegetables and too much processed type foods, so that is what I decided to change. I still eat meat, but much much less meat than I used to, and very little to no processed meats. Then I amped up my plant-based intake according to Dr. Fuhrman's acronym GBOMBS ... greens, beans, onions,, mushrooms, berries and seeds, which I find helpful. But I do supplement with a little lean meat, mostly fish such as salmon and sardines, and some chicken and beef. A little milk in my coffee and an occasional container of yogurt. That's where I am now. If I have medical issues I will consider adjustments, but I see no reason to become a raving fanatic about my diet. I don't think there is a perfect diet or can ever be.
GMO too. Hopefully they'll become organic and not as salty or at least that option.
Beyond meat is the only meat sustitute that I can eat, others like Gardien, feildroast, Boca give me bad reactions, I wonder why,does anyone else have this problem?
Minor typo: around 3:05, the potassium is listed as micrograms, but the value given is the number of milligrams. (Ie - erase the "c" in "mcg", and it's correct)
I've thought that plant based meats were just a stepping stone to a healthier diet for awhile now.
Hello! Plant based nutrition has always been interesting for me. One question though: here, in the middle east, cranberries (and raspberries) are highly uncommon. We do have frozen ones, but I guess they lose most of its nutritious value once they get frozen. On the other hand, we do have fresh citrus here, such as oranges, pomeloes, lemons, clementines, grapefruits and so on.
So my question is: is replacing fresh cranberries in all the recipes with citrus can bring the same (or at list some of the) nutritious value? Thanks!
Frozen fruits are as healthy as fresh ones. Check out Dr Greger’s series of videos on fruits:-)
Thank you for the answer!😊 however, I'm still wondering if I could replace cranberries, since citrus are way more available (even more than the frozen ones).
@@chenwhite9091 just keep eating those great fruits and vegetables that you have there, you can’t go wrong 👍
Plants always win!
Please make a video on quorn, it's mycoprotein, does it cause acid hyper filtration?
They get people off meat. But oil oil oil is the problem.
@David de Hilster
I thought, by your avatar, you were Dr. Neal Barnard.
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There are, in fact, several problems.
Meat, animal products, oils, refined grains, refined sugars, ...
Esselstyn is wrong about oil. Tbh he’s a dinosaur working with outdated 1980s research. If atherosclerosis is your concern, very low Apo B should be your goal.
@@Chiungalla79 Refined oils* virgin oils are not bad, they do not contain trans fats. Of course seeds and olives are better than virgin oils, but they aren't that bad.
@@botzer8817
They are. And they are also refined. There are worse oils than olive oil. But olive oil is still pure fat in an unnatural state that does terrible things to your blood vessels.
Live a few weeks without oils and you will realize how big the negative effect of oils on your health is.
Restarting on oils feels like being poisoned. You just don't realize it because it's normal to you.
I’m curious if at some point, you’ll address the quality of ingredients in these plant-based meat substitutes like GMO pea protein isolate, canola oil, methyl cellulose, apple extract and others.
Strange cut. It felt like the end of the video, then you talked about hip fracture.
Is there anything beans aren't good for !!!
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart DR OZA from Africa, 16 months old with your treatment haven't seen any recocurrene. Herbs is great to be known.thank you doc.
Great video!! I picked up on a lot of good facts. I came to this channel originally for my cat diet because I'm extremely annoyed that companies that use pea protein as fillers. CATS ARE OBLIGATE CARNIVORES!!! They don't hunt for peas, corn, wheat, or any plant protein other than some grass occasionally. They do not digest plant protein because their digestive track is completely different. The proof is in the pudd'n!!!
has an article that explains why pea protein for cats and dogs are bad. Taurine which is VERY important in a cats diet.... and dogs is anprotein. Ok maybe a little pea protein won't hurt but companies add pea protein in the first couple of ingredients which most of us know that means they added mostly pea protein to trick buyers into buying the earlier death sentence cat food. And never feed your cat dry cat food...BAAAADDD!! and her colleagues has great info! ***Note that FDA standards for animals are far worst than human standards. FDA standards suck at best!!
explains how pea protein and all legumes play a roll in not just cats, but humans too!
***I do have some beefs with many companies!! No pun intended!!🐄🤠🐄 And...One very important info that vegan diet requires and needs to be mentioned !!!! A vegan diet does NOT provide very much needed vitamin B12. B12 is mostly obtained by animal protein and eggs.
*** Soy is good but I once went for a breast/ mammogram exam and I had some fibrous tissue and was asked if I eat a lot of soy. At that time I did and also stopped eating animal protein for a while. When I cut the soy protein down, the fibroids went bu-by. Soy also has estrogen naturally. My ex used to eat lots of edamame & I teased him that he was going to grow boobies. I know it's not the same estrogen but too much of anything can be bad.
*** . I am so sick to death of companies adding ridiculous amounts of unnecessary sodium (& sugar) content!!!! I get migraines from too much sodium. Not to mention all the other health issues that sodium causes. I can't even buy most frozen boxed, canned, seasonings, even some breads, and some brands of ice cream because these food products contain ridiculous amounts of sodium. Who would think that ice cream and other dairy products would have so much???? Homemade ice cream is made with salt ..... on the outside of the ice cream maker... NOT added inside the recipe!! SO WHYYYY!?!?! I bought some healthier nutty rolls one time and found that they contained over 400mg of sodium for one tiny roll...REALLY???? WHYYYY?? Then when I try to find products with low or no sodium, I have to pay more. SUCH BS!! Companies are being taxed more for high sugar content products and alcohol so why not tax more for to high sodium content??? Maybe companies will cut down and consumers will also! Just say'n!! It sucks not to be able to eat what I want, taking so much time and effort to shop & search, and to find very little products with low sodium!!! I have to buy everything fresh and make it myself which I don't always have time for. NOT convenient and not always appetizing!! Even when I love cooking!!
The upside to this problem is that I stay thin and healthy.. so far! But now it stresses me out so how healthy is that??? It caused bad drinking habits.....kidding!! Just trying to make a point!!
!! Is it true that farmers that claim "no antibiotics" really means just that....NO!!! One time shopping in the meat department the butcher/employee told me that when it says "no antibiotics" that could mean "recently" and that the requirements are with in a certain time frame. Something to look into ?? Same with eggs. "cage Free" could mean raised extremely fast with mass poor chickens that can't move around because they are all touching each other.. DISGUSTINGLY SAD!!!! They are only hatched to suffer through a very short miserable existence! That's f'd up. "Pasture Raised" Chickens roam more freely!!
on Consumer Report website! also the movie or book, Food, Inc. I used to love to buy these Costco chickens. Not anymore!!!
I bring all of these subjects to light because this is a part of a consumers responsibility to do your homework before you purchase products that are not healthy and safe to consume regardless of "plant protein vs animal protein" controversies and reputable companies ......or not!!!
Sorry so long and derailed a couple of times. The moral of this long info story is that it won't matter if you choose plant or animal protein if you don't do your homework/research with reputable websites, reviews, & articles. The more consumers that practice this responsibility, hopefully more companies will be liable to offer better choices!
Does this mean that sodium is really not a problem?
Too much sodium throws off your potassium balance but also it can reach some have it on your stomach and can cause more water retention making more work for the cardiovascular system.
Individual and family history as well as age and medical history matters.
20g of protein though is one and a half cups of black beans as opposed to a small patty.
And in a cheap and convenient way vegan refried beans with or without fat contain even more protein per can then the whole beans. Cheap. Hummus can be made with any beans but make a handy sandwich spread with lots of vegetables.
Ezekiel sprouted bread has a protein rating of about 8 and 10 g of protein in two slices.
Interesting as usual!
This guy is basically a saint.
Regarding size, among apes, based on photos, the more meat in their diet, the smaller the Brain & the Body. For example google photos of Herbivorous Gorilla, Orangutan, compared with omnivorous baboon and chimp.
man, every time I listen to "all the health benefits of a whole food vegan diet" a part of me just thinks "I'M INVINCIBLE, I'M ONE WITH NATURE... AN UNDYING BEING" even though I know its not like this hahaha
Beans , whole wheat cereals , vegetables
Do you think ethnicity has an effect on whether some foods work better for some people? If their ancestors ate a particular way, would this mean certain diets would be better for them?
Yes white people have more of the mutation that maintains lactose digestion. Others have less occurrence of it.
I would think that this differences, other than lactose intollerance, are rather nuanced and not that much important. After all the ethnicities separated not that long ago and mixed up a lot in the meantime.
@celark
Yes. Some ethnicities have even more reasons to become Vegan than others.
Lactose intolerance being the leading one.
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@@mrmrmaples Actually some East African populations also tolerate lactose such as the Maasai for example.
Which ethnicities, exactly can't tolerate dairy?
Can you make a covid 19 video with the updates?
I wonder how long it will be before this point of view becomes generally accepted. It seems to be as hard to break through as the truth that the world is round. (Yes Kyrie Irving, I'm looking at you.)
The Lord Michael of Gregor has come unto us. Thou has written for mankind the holy bible...of healthy eating.
I like that 💕👈🙋🌲🌲🌲🌲🕊
I came here expecting anti vegan nonsense, I found a reasonable, and informative video
Doc you are my go to source and I absolutely love your content. but your SILENCE on the vaccines is deafening. any chance you can do a video about them soon?
Check out Highwire the. Reserve judgement until after watching a half dozen vids.
Well ahead of the MSM and much alternative media.
So if you make MEAT SUBSTITUTES from: beans, chickpeas peas and lentils, you get the BEST overall result - RIGHT? :-)
How to NOT tell the whole story - put to the test here!!!
Let’s go
Just eat your 🎵 Beans, greens,tomatoes, potatoes, yams🎶
Vegan Thanksgiving - PBD Grey 🎶
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As much as I love Dr Greger, Its distracting to see you moving around so much because it distracts from the important message of the video.
The audio presentations were far better.
Oye did you really say that... Yikes, you must be a joy to live with !
@@phillatella6470
I have been watching Dr Greger for years. I totally love him (as stated in my original post). He is funny and charismatic.
I 'constantly' forward his videos on certain subjects to various people or family etc..
His previous videos (audio) with slides was very straight-forward.
But, now with his new style of videos, people tend to look at Dr Greger (rather than the important health info which is also on the screen).
I think it is wrong of you to criticize me for pointing out something which is valid.
He can do whatever he wants in his videos.
I am giving my honest feedback.
I am certain that people will be looking at Dr Greger (as he is charismatic) and they may miss-out on the written info.
Actually I am very nice to live with.
When a company updates its website, it is pretty normal to read all the feedback from customers so that they can consider it in the future.
I am in awe of Dr Greger.
And my feedback is genuine and true.
You are welcome to your own opinion too.
How about just not looking at the videos and just listening to them instead?
I gotta have cheese burgers, even plant based. Nothing satisfies like a burger. I won't give up French fries either and I've never found a baked recipe that satisfies. We are about to get an air fryer and I'll try air fried fries due to the very low amount of oil they use. I love charcoal grilled taste so I'm looking for a plant based burger that works well with a charcoal grill. I currently use Grillers by Morning Star Farms but they are so dry they aren't good on the grill. I use Daiya brand plant based cheddar cheese but it really doesn't have the extra sharp taste I crave. Spring is right around the corner so I'm looking for a better burger and cheese brand.
Have you tried the Impossible burger? Beyond Meat burgers? What about Miyoko's nut cheeses? Maybe these could help satisfy your cravings?
@@chiyerano I did not like The Beyond Burger. It's made with pea protein and I don't like peas. I can actually taste peas in the burger. I like The Impossible Burger much more but last I checked I can't find them in stores in my parts, only sold from places like Burger King and they are very expensive. The Impossible Burger has the plant based heme which helps the flavor greatly. I have not tried Miyoko's nut cheeses. I'll look for them. Thanks.
Sorry, but I'm still eating some beef liver. I'd be full of anxiety and going to the hospital if I took meat out of my diet.
Nasty 🤮
Oh really? You would be going to the hospital if you took meat out of your diet, LOL. 🙄
@@joez3706 yea ok never had it even when I ate meat 🤣🤣🤣
Wow, those meat loving bugs are strong in your gut aren't they.
Thats the contrary, meat elevates cortisol (you eat cortisol when you eat meat and it crosses BBB), it raises stress and anxiety.
I don't trust this guy.
That's alright just look at the evidence and see what it says.
@@chiyerano I have seen with my own eyes how many vegans are unwell. That's all the evidence I need. How about giving some time to ex-vegans? No, that's not what you want to hear is it? This guy is most likely being paid by vegan activist groups and is pushing an agenda. My grandfather is 88 and has eaten meat every day of his life and yet is as fit as a fiddle. Vegans are not infallible but many are egoists, in my experience.
@@AlMondO93 Have you looked into his practice as a family and lifestyle physician? There is a difference between vegan and whole food plant based. Yes there are plenty of sick vegans and there are plenty of sick nonvegans too. Evidence backed whole food plant based is another story more often than not as people have actually successfully treated themselves of chronic illnesses with a whole food plant based diet. Plus this doctor Dr. Greger you see here in this video has mentioned how wild game meat is the best meat for people to eat based on results he found on a study on people who were on wild kangaroo diet. Dr. Greger focuses on evidence based nutrition. Like I said go look into the evidence and see for yourself.
@@chiyerano "Have you looked into his practice as a family and lifestyle physician?" So he's in it for the money and veganism is trendy right now so he knows where the dollars are to be made. Have you thought about that? For every research paper that supports and encourages a vegan lifestyle there is a paper, most often from countries that are not America, that support and encourage a meat based diet. I don't live in the US, I live in northern europe and a diet of potatos and carrots just isn't going to cut it during the winter months. A plant based diet that requires supplements is far from a perfect diet. Veganism resembles cult like and quasi-religous thinking. Vegans gravitate towards each other and confirm each other's bias, like cults do. Meat eaters don't do that, in case you haven't noticed. Notice how many people in the comments are seeking praise for their choice in what food they eat. You don't think that is bizzare?
@@AlMondO93 Like I said, go do your own research and maybe try out his suggestions and see how they work for you. Look up all the evidence and see for yourself. No need to waste time here trying to troll if you really want to know.