How Does A Digital Caliper Work?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2023
- How Does A Digital Caliper Work?
Today we look at what makes a digital caliper work. It was time for me to upgrade to new calipers as the old ones were getting hard for me to see. So we take my old Harbor Freight calipers apart and see the stator and slider.
Here are the new ones I bought thanks to the PATRONS: amzn.to/3Xh6j4y
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Very interesting. Never realized these work like that. I always expected them to work like a optical mouse.
But this also explains, why they are available pretty cheap, since both sides can be printed circuits.
i have a digital caliper and although I rarely use it, I had no idea how it works. Appreciate you sacrificing one to demo the inner works, thanks! Very cool.
An important part of how the digital calipers can read to the accuracy they do is that the moving strips are a slightly different width than the fixed strips. This allows absolute positioning as well as higher accuracy much like a vernier scale is read.
Just got same from my favourite local German Supermarket for only a tenner (£). Very pleased with the quality and level of finish. Meaures to (point) 0005 of an inch, that is half of 1 thou. Now the smallest unit of measurement should be what any instrument is accurate too, so less than a thou is a lot of bang for the Bucks. Thanks for the vid, was curious what is inside, and i prolly wouldnt have got mine together again! 😀
Pretty cool stuff Paul! I have the exact one you took apart. I need the one with the bigger digits for sure!
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!!!
You're correct, calipers with a dial are called Dial Calipers. Vernier calipers just use lines like a slide rule would
I have several calipers. Starett, mitutoyo, and some HF jobbers. The staretts are dial in fractions that I used for woodworking. All are pretty accurate, the HF ones were rough in the slide action, I just cleaned and lubed them. The HF ones are in my go bag and truck if I need them. Don’t care if they get beat up.
Hi Paul, great video mate, love the reference to The Six Million Dollar Man at 10:02 , good job, keep up the great work. 🤙🏼🇦🇺
Joe from Australia 🤙🏼🇦🇺
So interesting, thank you for sharing. Careful turning the electric screwdriver by hand. Had mine for 2 days and stripped the planetary gears by manually turning it. Didn't take much torque to render it completely useless.
0:03 I use them at least 1 time per week for the last 3 years for something that won't be your first guess. I use them to measure the size of my wheels on my inline skates so I can find the largest 8 wheels out of (usually 16+) when I rotate the wheels. Because of my hilly terrain and skating style (practicing stopping) I need to rotate every week (or more when the wheels get low). Yesterday when I used them to measure my 3x110mm wheels the calipers were reading very wrong sizes for the first few readings. Thankfully after zeroing several times the calipers returned to working. I skate most often with a 4x90mm setup but also have 2 different 3x110 frame combinations on 2 pairs of FR1 skates.
That is a very interesting use! Thanks for sharing that!
There are a couple of recommended ways to rotate 4 wheel and 3 wheel setups however the engineer in me found my own way..
I ordered the caliper you recommended. It is really nice. I love the fractional display... I no longer need to do the mental math and convert... call me lazy... Quite the deal. And it seems very accurate - or - as accurate as I realistically need it to be. I already have an old and expensive micrometer. Don't need and can't justify $150+ for a caliper.
Very interesting. It is a wonder to me that the technology can be made at the price point they make can make them at.
You can expect maximum accuracy of about +/- .001 out of Starrett or Mitutoyo calipers and that is only if you are really skilled at using them. The reality is probably closer to +/- .002 if we are being honest about how carefully we measure things. You can pretty much get that with Harbor Freight calipers too. Harbor Freight calipers have other shortcomings but their accuracy isn’t really one of them.
Thanks for the video! Now I don't have to destroy my pair. Still $29.98 on 06/20
I just checked at 10:30 est... Still $29.98 on 06/20 😃
Yes I do use one all the time. Building models I use MM all the time... I like the big screen so I will need to get one the after the 10th of the month... Who knows if they will have any by then... 🤪
Thanks for sharing!
LLAP 🖖
I think all these are variations on the old Inductosyn patents. Is is an unwound selsyn. The cheap ones can be very accurate because they average over several loops of the "stator" coil and the PCB manufacturing process is very precise. yes, they pick up a sin (or cosine) and compare the phase angle with the driving sinusoid. That face angle can give a fraction of a degree, or a couple hundred devisions from one loop to the next of the serpentine trace. As the pickup passes over the serpentine (stator) and the phase goes from positive to negative and back. You can tell the direction of travel as well. The DSP plus the frequency used on the chip can handle any speed you move it.
I have the same units and there is an output that you can solder wires to. I have looked for the source of the chips, but no luck. The same method is used for the angle measuring rulers.
Well, wrong. It is a much more complicated method from the 1980's created to get around the Inductosyn patents. Ridiculously complicated if you see the software and all the signals..
i dont understand. I thought they measure the variation of capacitance.
@@titusdocor4311It is like the two coils of a transformer and if one of them is free to turn, the phase of the output voltage will change and go through a complete cycle relative to the phase of the input. In this case the coils are unrolled and become the pattern on a printed circuit board.
Very interesting as always. I am curious. When trying to figure out the position on a motor shaft on a rotational 360 degree thing, they use some sort of encoder. I am wondering if this type of thing can be used for longitudinal position sensing. In particular, let's say I am trying to automate the position of my fence on a table saw. I have a microprocessor that controls a stepper to move the fence , but it needs a way of "Knowing" where the fence is. A digital micrometer certainly does this, on a smaller scale. I would love to learn how to bring this accuracy to and automated fence on a table saw. Look a Jeremy Fielding on CZcams when he automated his table saw. Hope you are well, Paul. Haven't heard about your son in awhile. Penn State treating him well?
I've got one that is still in the original packaging, Paul. Just haven't needed to use it for anything!
What was that electric screwdriver you used in the video? It looks very useful.
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Oh my, turning them into the Six-Million Dollar Calipers!🤣
Have a great idea for 20 vernier calipers
I have a dial pair and my Digital General Branded ones are just as accurate.
Paul, excellent video. I use a caliper pretty much everyday in my hobby. I find the need for greater precision. Do the high end digital calipers have more sensors that are closer together and better machining?
I honestly don't know, I have never owned a high end Starett or Mitatoyo, and when I was working they would not have let me tear one apart. My guess would be just better tolerences.
I have a Carrera and a Mitatoyo. The Carrera is an all metal 'cheap' caliper. Both 6". They seem very similar in use, but the cheap ones chew thru batteries probably 100x faster. Super annoying. Maybe that's fixed on present day units. Maybe buy a quality all metal 'cheap' unit and go from there.
@@GannDolph I believe the cheap digital calipers all use basically the same circuit board, which is an old design. In principle there's nothing wrong with it except that it never really switches off. It switches off the LCD display but not the little chip that's inside. That's why they chew through batteries.
@@olavl8827 makes sense. before i got the Mitatoyo my plan had been to wire in a tiny switch to the battery contacts.
The Mitatoyo I have doesnt have a switch either - it turns on with a light sensor. If you flip it over or put in its case it turns off. Somehow the current draw from this is amazingly infinitesimal.
@@GannDolph The light sensor is a good idea. It could be done with just a photoresistor and a transistor. The problem is that with a little bad luck it could add perhaps a whole cent to the production cost, which the manufacturers of cheap digital calipers will of course do their best to avoid.
always change the battery in the calipers when u get them, that battery is used for testing & could be however old..
I prefer the older dial calipers.
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Clear explanation: Some sort of oscillator....
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Thanks Paul
5:29 that was alll your doing on that screw.. idk what u was talkin bout.. gotta be one
Might have been useful to compare the readings between the new and the old.
Sorry!
Nice, so thats why some digicalipers go crazy sometimes. Microscopic metal make it orgasm for eternity. 🤣🤣
Using an electric screwdriver on tiny screws, especially cheap ones, is not a great idea.. Also, you gotta get yourself a pair of screw pliers!
You did NOT reveal how it works. You merely took it apart and showed what's inside.
I in fact did explain that it uses quadrature signaling.
You forgot about the fourth measurement the step gauge that can be found with the caliper
True, I didn't know how many folks would know that one. I know of it, but an not familiar with it.
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Hi paul ! Yes im a litle bit mister magoo too . Greetings from françe .🥸