Would Muhammed Ali Beat Modern Day Champions?
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Muhammad Ali is one of the greatest boxers of all time but can he beat modern day heavyweight boxing champions like Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua? I will also be breaking down Muhammad Ali's boxing style and techniques. Ali has an unorthodox defense where he relies on leaning back to avoid punches and surprise his opponents with big counterpunches.
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0:00 Would Muhammed Ali Beat Modern Day Champions?
1:13 Muhammad Ali’s Boxing Style
2:40 Ali’s Diet
4:34 Great at Evading and throwing counterpunches
7:23 Boxing Combinations
8:54 Fighting Wladimir Klitschko
10:21 Muhammad Ali vs Anthony Joshua
13:50 Fighting a Southpaw - Oleksandr Usyk
17:49 Tyson Fury vs Muhammad Ali
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I'd say Ali would just come up with a strategy to beat either of them, plus Ali was able to stand and bang with some of the heaviest hitters to ever enter the ring (i.e. George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Sonny Liston). And don't forget about Ali's durability and cardio.
Ali could (would) beat Jake Paul 👍
In my view if you go back in time slowly... Wlad is about the same as Hollyfield, and he would be about the same as say Norton. ALi would beat AJ and Wlad, but it would be close. Usyk about the same as Fraser? So Ali win 2 out of 3 fights. Fury.... ALi could out point him, punch and move for 12 rounds. Again wins 2 out of 3 fights, all very close. ALso would say, Leon Spinks lol loses to Usyk, but against Norton, Fraiser and Holmes. Even, at best. late 70's early 80's Larry Holmes a nightmare for anyone and could in my view beat Usyk, AJ, Wlad and Fury. But again very close.
I think both Usyk and Fury could beat Ali but it's not to say they would win every time. They are all point scorers to an extent (fury less so in latter years). Fury would know how to use his size and Usyk could be agile enough to get to Ali and win. However, they are close fights for sure
One thing that’s funny about this is publicity Muhammad Ali would be a BEAST with social media, imagine the trash talk and the utter gusto of his supporters. And in general a pure beauty to behold lol.
Ali was an extreme raysist who believed all wytte ppl are d€\/¡Ls and advocated for raysial seperation.
Ali was an extreme bigot. See his interview with Parkinson in 1971.
@@ScorpionSuerte 💀💀💀 bet ill watch it
@@ScorpionSuertehe never had parkinsons in 1971. In the 80’s he did
@@fryhyh Lol. Micheal Parkinson was the interviewer.
I think Ali, if born today with access to advances in sports sciences, would be a dominant force; it’s incredible how much sports sciences have advanced since his hayday.
But what about with our ti, who wiuld win
@@Tony_Jeffries with his attitude, skills and science? Ali, I’d say
I agree with you
I agree with this take. Ali read. He'd adapt to whatever was available in the way of coaching, having been signposted to it via reliable information he'd have picked out from the junk.
Ali all the way
Don’t forget that Sonny Liston had a reach of 84 inches, just one inch shorter than Fury. Ali greatly avoided his punches and countered him.
Interesting point but Liston was much shorter and lighter than fury
@@zachf8855that's true, but liston also had concrete bricks for hands
@@zachf8855 Liston was 220 pounds of God-given raw power, fury is 270 pounds of beer and lard.
@@user-dc9oq2pr6v I agree I’m not thinking fury is a heavy puncher, more so the height of fury makes the reach discrepancy exaggerated
Also these guys threw more punches in every round and would go into the 15th round throwing more punches in the final round than most heavyweights throw In the first 6 rounds. Have a look at the last round of Holmes v Norton. I didn't like Lennox Lewis but he improved with age to the point that even I was impressed how good he had become. Bear in mind he was as BIG as these heavyweights today. He was far more skilled, polished powerful and generally ring smart. He would walk through these guys today. I'm not being deliberately biased towards my generation. Holyfield seems to be overlooked when comparing different fighters from different ages. Holyfield fought at around 185 up to 218 or so. During that time he went 56 rounds with Bowel and Lewis while giving 30 pounds away to guys that were top tier guys. In fact you could match Holyfield v Dempsey with them being the same weight. Likewise Louis, Dempsey, Patterson, Liston, Frasier, Ali, Foreman.....he fought Lewis as I said who was around the same weight as the Klitschkos. Holyfield was past his best when he fought Lewis and Lewis was possibly at his peak. Holyfield fought Valuev when he was way past his best and was robbed. He probably gave away 70 pounds or so. Admittedly I was always rooting for Holyfield but putting that aside for the moment I'm just surprised that Holyfield isn't used as a benchmark against the greats of the past and the heavyweights of today given his weight changes and the fact he could fight much bigger opponents who were rated very highly and were in fact well respected champions.
One attribute that your leaving out is Ali’s granite chin, man he could take a shot.
Not really thats why get got Parkinson's
@@Insert.anger50He got parkinsons because of his granite chin, you get parkinsons from repetitive blows to the head not getting knocked out
@@StygianDemise. So who was punching Michael j fox??
@@Insert.anger50The disease starts from birth (DNA), punches only caused an earlier onset. Learned this at his museum in Louisville.
@@Insert.anger50hey genius he got parkinsons because of the thousands of blows he took in sparring. When he came back from exile he couldn't avoid punches like he could before. So to get used to getting, he and his team had this brilliant idea that taking shots in sparring would prepare him for the actual fight. Horrible idea and it's what led to the early parkinsons. And just because he got parkinsons doesn't mean he didn't have a great chin.
There is a comment that George Foreman made about Muhammad Ali saying that one time he had been hitting him for a round or two in the stomach as hard as he could and Muhammad leaned over his shoulder in the middle of the round and said is that all you got George
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And considering Foreman was one of the heaviest hitters ever.
He attacked with all his strength in every round, but it was a pity that that day belonged to Ali
@@Reeeeeee12345 ”I remember hitting him so hard. I think around the stomach or the side. Then he looked at me and said “Is that all you got sucka?’”
- George Foreman
@@Reeeeeee12345No, you can find it easily. It was bald george foreman so it probably was from the 90's
Ali lost his prime years when they stripped him of his title and banned him from boxing for three years. Just before that he was untouchable.
Not true. Ali was exceptional no doubt, and deserves his spot in the GOAT ranking. He took on some absolute killers. However, even during his prime, he was KO'd and saved by the ropes and the bell. If he hadn't fallen back on the ropes, he'd have been out cold. He even required help getting onto his stool, he was clearly out on his feet. Not only was he saved by the bell, but his corner, as far as we can see in the vid cheated and used smelling salts to wake Ali back up in time to get back out there. No one is untouchable. No one.
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Yes he was around 30 years old in the early 1970s
He was younger than what usyk aj tyson fury r ..when he fought
joe frasier
Ali would have been a great fighter in any era, but I believe he would have not beaten Forman in a rematch, which is why he ran from Foreman. Lennox never ran from anyone. Lennox had to go to court 3 times to get his respect. 1 for Tyson, 1 for Bowe, 1 for Rahman. Tyson paid 4 million to not fight Lewis when he was young and lost anyway when he finally faced him. Ali would have been hurt by Lennox. Lennox has a jab as good at Larry Holmes.
Ali to me is overrated. He fought way past his prime and he had some hard losses. He was not undisputed and could not have been. A prime Mike Tyson may have given Ali some trouble… Lennox hurt a lot of fighters. Wilder, has all knockouts, I think Ali would have lost to him too.
I’m not a guy that just jumps on bandwagons. Briggs has the record for the most 1st round knockouts. Briggs was probably on the juice so he would tire after round 1, but Lennox destroyed him too.
@@tron1007rIf there was a match between Tyson and Foreman,who would have win?
@@tron1007r Ali over rated 😅😅😅😅😅 Heard it all now. The only thing you got right was stayed too long. Should have retired after fighting George
Usyk is 3 lbs heavier than George Foreman when he fought Ali ....,same height.What I've learned by watching Usyk is his training must be over the top.Nobody in history is in this condition with high boxing IQ.
Ali is same height, same reach as Usyk.
Usyk proved as a dominant Cruiserweight he can dominate at Heavyweight giving up 40-60 lbs on great fighters.
The idea Ali would be too small is crazy talk.
Sonny Liston reach was same as Fury & Ali battered Liston who was one of the most vicious champions ever & at the time was an avoided fighter before he got the belt.
Ali dominated Liston, even while Liston corner cheated & blinded Ali with chemical on Listons glove which had Ali blurred vision for an entire round. Ali survived that 1 round where he didnt win, cameback the next round, whooped Liston till he quit on his stool.
Ali stamina was unreal in his prime, more impressive then Liston given the volume of punches & combination fighters of that era threw. They were natural boxers + figters too.
Current heavyweights are filled with former athletes who started boxing as young adults.
Joshua started boxing at 18, won Olympic gold as amateur in 3 years of picking up boxing and by age 25 was World champion in 15 pro fights.
Wilder started boxing at 19, won Olympic bronze in 4 years with limited experience + poor fundamentals, won World title & had 10 title defenses.
Thats 2/4 best Heavyweights of this era.
Joe Joyce started boxing at 22, he was in an Olympic gold medal game where he arguable won, he got to the level of a top 10 heavyweight as a pro, won interim title.
Joyce wouldn't have survived in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000's.
Usyk has skill, experience and talent advantage over all heavyweights in all his fights being a natural boxer in an era of athletes who picked up boxing late.
Usyk stamina is great but he's fighting boxers who aren't used to throwing many punches, no fluid combinations punchers but 1 or 2 shot boxers.
Usyk isn't having to worry about being matched on punch volume, combinations or speed.
Ali had all that, also remeber they were conditioned for 15 rounds.
Championship rounds started in round 13, 14 and 15.
Many all-time fights change if they were 12 round fights, it takes another level to be great over 15.
Sugar Ray Leonard would have lost to Tommy Hearns if it was 12 round fight, he wilted late in that fight.
Meldrick Taylor would have beaten Chavez if it was 12 rounds, hell if it was even 14 rounds.
Rocky Marciano would have lost to Jersey Joe Walcott if it was 12 rounds & wouldn't have been 49-0.
Ali among the greats was one of the most scientific fighters ever, particular heavyweight.
His combination of handspeed, footspeed, combination punching, timing at that size was.
Along with his being a freak athletic with special mental fortitude.
Ali in his prime was the perfect fighter.
So P4P his skills, speed, combo punching would have him dominant any division if he was lighter at those divisions.
The Ali post 3 year suspension was not the same Ali and his super human reflexes dulled and his footwork wasn't the same.
Ali after his sharp reflexes left him & he was more hittable he showed he wasn't just a special boxer but an all-time figter who could take punishment.
Usually freak athletes like him who rely on God gifted reflexes when using a unorthodox style usually get exposed & can't continue at elite level, either KO or outfought.
Examples being Roy Jones jr, Naseem Hamed, freak athletes who had unorthodox styles who got away with terrible fundamentals because of there sharp reflexes, once that left them both they were not the same, became vulnerable.
Roy Jones KO & beat up and fell off from peak of boxing, Naseem Hamed fell off too while still young.
Ali dominated & had a hall of fame career just from the period he was past his physical peak.
@@MRBp2024Chavez vs Taylor WAS 12 rounds and Taylor didn’t make it to the finish. 🤦🏽♂️
No way any of the modern HW have a chance against Ali. Probably not against any of the top HW of that era (Ali, Frazier, Foreman). These guys fought multiple times a year for 15 rounds at a time. Guys now fight once a year if they’re lucky for 12 rounds and are gassed by the 6th.
Nobody except Ali
@@Robzrx lots of bias towards the older fighters. The level of all sports in general gets better through time and considering they'd all be "small" heavyweights these days they definitely wouldn't dominate the modern era. They could get wins against the top guys for sure, but they'd just as likely lose
The way Ali fought then is pretty similar to how boxers fight now. The difference being he was about a century ahead of his time, so the other boxers couldn't really compete
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@@DeadEye42069 i not agree ,all the old school boxers were stronger than those of now, tell me just one modern boxer who has the class of Joe Louis for example, or Ray Robinson , boxing has changed for the worse and not for the better, ,in the past there were effective techniques that no longer exist today, look at how Sam Langford fought in 1910
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*What heavy weight boxes like Ali today?*
@@imo1933 Not the oversived thumb Tyson Fury that's for sure
There’s something so majestic about how Ali moved around the ring, his footwork his speed look so smooth and flow so well, like he’s dancing around the ring then effortlessly cracking powerful punches
Go and try that in today's boxing... 🤣.
Fraziers win over Ali will go down in history I think the odds were against Ali I watched a documentary featuring Ali and cus damato and they discussed Ali 3 year haitus and the effect it would have on his reflexes
@@PoombaiNews May not work in todays boxing but doesn’t take away the fact that it still flowed seemlessly and entertaining to watch
He was a dancing clown
@@PoombaiNewsYou must have not boxed before, fluidity of foot is a major asset.
Ali also had incredible speed, timing and chin.
Learn the sport before commenting in future.
We really need to acknowledge that Fury is NOT 6”9. He says he is. But when he initially entered into pro boxing he was listed as 6”7.
Just look at him standing next to 6”4 Alex Pereira. Or 6”4 Francis Ngannou. He just isn’t as tall as he pretends to be.
Yep, and if you look at pics of him next to Magic Johnson who's actually 6'9, you'll see that Fury is shorter.
@@speedisoftheessencewell said, fury in photos he stand on his tip toes.
doesn't matter, he can fight like a 7 foot tall man or have the inside game of a 5'10" HW
Fury stood face to face 2 inches taller than Wilder.
Some people are still growing in their early twenties. A pro debut height can increase.
In their 20s, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, and Brock Lesnar grew 1.5 inches. Andre the Giant and my friend Jimmy grew 4 inches. Philadelphia Eagles Vince Papale grew 5 inches, and Dennis Rodman grew 7 inches.
Most people round up to the next inch. I'm 5'11 3/8. My driver's licence says 6'0.
@@trevorgoodman4895 and yet just last year Fury stood next to Alex Pereira who is 6”4 - both wearing similar height shoes, and he was barely taller than him. Just continue to religiously believe fury is 6”9 like a deranged fanboy if you’d prefer
Ali had an insane amount of athletic gifts, but he had one super power that hasn’t been seen since…. He could knock you out backing up. He did. This weird rotation with his upper body and if you stepped in while he was backing up he could catch you hard.
Stop talking crap. Ali was not a big puncher.
Can you imagine Ali on twitter and Facebook? He’d be the greatest rapper/shit talker/ boxer/ and bully on earth today. Ali was the fastest and most skilled heavyweight ever to fight. I don’t think anyone could beat him in his prime. He knew how to get in your head and mess with you and he knew how to box.
Don't forget Ali was tough as nails and a chin of steel
His chin of steel let him
Down against our Henry!
@@manofbeardParkinson’s
@@manofbeardStill beat him
@@manofbeardgot back up and won…
@@manofbeardAli won twice against him.
Tyson fury isn’t actually 6’9. His own father says he is 6’7 1/2 and he has no clue why he’s listed at 6’9. If he was really that tall he would tower over Ngannou and wilder, he doesn’t
And Ali was not 6'3" he was 6'2"
Yip check the photo of him and Halfthor Bjornson, Fury is on his tip toes and still not same height as him. Klitschko also said he was not 6' 9".
"Tower over them" with +1.5 inches 😂
Tyson fury is a man's man he shows no respect for none and he has supreme boxing iq I also think he could beat ali
Wilder and Ngannou themselves are very tall as well. 6’5 & 6’7. Even if Fury was 6’9 he wouldn’t “tower” over them. It’s only a few inches apart.
When Ali fought Ernie Terrell who was 6'6 and how Ali was slipping his punches, he was called the octopus because how he would grab his opponents, and how Ali counter that, and how Ali would grab, and control Liston it was something how he did it. Muhammad Ali was called The Greatest for a reason.
Exactly. Terrell was as big as Wilder or AJ, and a far more skillful boxer. Yet Ali just took him apart hardly breaking a sweat.
@@roberthockett270 Yes a friend of mine were talking about how these talking heads have book knowledge but are too young to know how good these old fighters were.
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Terrell was a stiff bum.
Ali is multi-generational talent. His speed, endurance, power, and ring savvy are still unmatched in his pre-hiatus prime. I am not saying he would have been undefeated but he could have beaten everyone after him if given rematch opportunities.
that one is truth I think Usyk would beat him but it would be interesting to see Ali strategy in a rematch .
Despite the massive advances in sports medicine, there has never been a comparable fighter to Ali. If Ali were to be able to take advantage of modern training and recovery techniques, I believe he would still beat anyone alive. 🥊
Larry Holmes?
@@Yeaggghurte Ali wasn't 25 when they fought lol
Ken Norton beat him 3 times
Sugar Ray Robinson has joined the chat.
modern techniques? tell me just one modern technique after 1950
Let’s not forget Liston had The and reach as Tyson Fury, and also Ali’s stamina and endurance is something to remember - modern Heavyweights only fight 12 round and forexample Anthony Joshua get tired by Like The 8th, I believe Muhammad Ali is GOAT
The skill is way more prehistoric back then, not as advance. Ali won't last in todays boxing boo
Lets not forget Liston was paid-off by the mob to take a fall
@@PoombaiNewsJesus dude, maybe don’t talk about boxing with hot takes like that 😅
saying AJ gets tired by round 8 is delusion. He was tired in round 10 against the most sctive HW there is. AJs gas tank is underrated
@PoombaiNews bruh... Ali would cook every modern heavyweight. Speed. Stamina were next level. Footwork was crazy. And he was very creative with his punching combos.
Today's heavyweights are gassed by the 5th round. Ali would dance and pick AJ and Fury apart.
Ali had great vision, he would keep his eyes on his opponents shoulders and can always see when a punch is coming.
Just imagine the trash talk Ali would be capable of today 😂 especially with social media.
Ali: 15 rounds, heavier gloves, toughest opponents in history... Joe Frazier would have ruled the world if not for Ali. That kinda quality was just never seen again.
Tyson fury would gas out before Ali and Ali would play on that.
Prime Mike Tyson would have a chance due to peekaboo style.
I think you meant Frazier would have ruled the world if not for Foreman, since he stopped Frazier twice.
Ali beat Foreman with 8 oz gloves.
@@genestringini8215I stand corrected.
Mike Tyson would not last with Ali ... Once Ali gets through the first 3 rds , Tyson will give up and get knocked out late
@@msway751Maybe.. But I'm not 100% sure he would make it through 3 rounds with a prime Tyson. He would adapt to his style, but maybe too late. Then again he went 15 rounds with Frazier.
Earnie terell was 6"6 and had a sniper like jab and Ali had him punching fresh air all night. Ali also weighed more than Wilder was when he fought fury the first time. I think its a myth thag everybody before the 2000s were so much smaller
Who’s here after fury lost?? Just me?? Oh okay.
Me
Ali was the greatest.His style fit him perfectly and his speed and footwork made him the best
How about if he will face Mike Tyson mate?
Well I'd say if Tyson managed to pull Ali at his game close range then he would probably win but if Ali managed to keep his distance he could've pulled it off
@@Tony_Jeffries depends really..
True
But still he was something different
The Ali who fought against Williams was the best boxer who ever existed, let's not forget that he had a chin of steel and that if tired he could stand on the ropes to cash in and then finish you off later. He fought against monsters (Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Shavers, Lyle) and let's not forget that Liston has the same reach as Fury
Nobody forgets the guys of the past. It's not that anyone forgot them. Frazier would be small for cruiser these days. Even Foreman would be on the small side compared to today's heavies, and very slow.
Ali is a sloppy fighter boo.. His skill is outdated
Well I am not saying the Ali who fought Williams was the best ever, look who he was up against, a guy with a bullet in his gut who can hardly moved. Louis or Dempsey would of blasted that version of Big Cat in just as impressive fashion.
@@PoombaiNews
Ali's skillset and ring ability depended on who he was fighting. The better the opponent the more Ali would step up to the next level.
@@greek1237
Williams was still clearly dangerous. He didn't just come out of nowhere and fight Ali for the world title. Williams earned his way to a title shot because he was winning fights and could still hit hard. Ali would have beat any version of Williams.
Usyk is th 21th century Ali
No he's not.
@@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt yh usyk is better
@@os12481 better than Ali?
@@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt better in some aspects
@@os12481 wow. Who's Usyk beaten that compares to Ali? He is overated by the pop star chart making commentators such as yourself.
An interesting fact is that Ali and Usyk's birthday is on the same day, January 17
yes thats crazy
@@bensylver5113 wow super cool! I wonder if Usyk knows this? Surely he does!
Usyk is DEFINITELY the best of this era IMO, but I think Ali would smoke him. In fact, I'd bet my life Ali would smoke him. Too fast in his prime! Freaky athlete man, great lateral agility, something unmatched by most heavy weights not named Mike Tyson (but Tyson's lateral agility was aided by his lower center of mass).
Not only birthday
Same height
Same reach
Same weight
Olympic gold medalists
Undisputed heavyweight champions
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The 70's was arguably the most talented era of heavyweight boxing. it's definitely more talented than today. As for reach, Sonny Liston had an 84 inch reach which is similar to Fury's and longer than any of the other guys in this video and Ali still danced around him and stepped in to attack when he felt like.
Why do people say this? Those guys were largely brawlers.. The technicality to their boxing game is nowhere near the level of technicality there is in the game today.
That's just nonsense. Name a single sport where they were more talented back in the 70s. Boxing is no different.
Apparently we have been in a weak era since 2004 when Lewis retired. It makes no statistical sense. It's just nostalgia.
@@MD-uu5nt it’s makes no statistical sense but what evidence do you have to the contrary. Like what fighters from today would beat Lewis?
@@SonnyK248 what evidence do you have to support your own position? On what basis do have you concluded that none of the fighters today would beat Lennox? He lost to Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall..were they quality fighters? He lost almost every round of his fight with Vitali Klitschko, Vitali was so unlucky to have been cut early on in the fight. Muhammed Ali lost to a 7 fight novice in Leon Spinks.
These guys today are much bigger and there's a lot more use of IQ today than in any past era..they don't just come out swinging like guys in the past, they are taking time to set up shots, finding ways to use range and angles to their advantage during fights, upped their defense game to avoid taking too much damage, etc. In this era, boxing has developed into a legitimate form of martial arts from just being a sport for brawlers in the so-called "golden era".
@@JayEkh dude Lewis avenged both those loses pretty easily and Ali was well past his prime when he lost to Spinks and even he avenged that loss too. Ali beat Liston twice, Patterson twice, Frazier twice, Norton twice and he beat Shavers and Foreman 😂 Lewis fought Klitschko literally in the last fight of his career and Klitschko was a great fighter and Lewis still beat him. You can blame the cut all you want but Lewis put it there. So again. Who beats Lewis today?
Ali is the goat. The fact that he's one of the most influential sportsmen ever, never mind boxers and yet no heavyweight has ever been able to copy his style. He was 6'3 220 and literally moved like a featherweight. Ali was just a different breed of athlete that we may never see again in heavyweight boxing. Plus he had endurance for days. They fought 15 rounds back then and the ref used to let fighters go. Ali's chin was also world class. No one ever knocked him out and only a couple of guys managed to put him on the mat for a few seconds and he faced some of the hardest punchers ever. For me Ali beats anyone in a three fight series.
No he was not 6'3 his trainer Angelo Dundee said Ali was 6'2
No he's not 6'3 even his trainer Angelo Dundee said Ali was 6'2 just like tyson fury isn't 6'9 he's 6'7
First he Ali wasn't one of the sportsmen ever he was voted by Sports Illustrated as the Greatest Athlete/Boxer and sportsmen of the Century and also Ali didn't face some of the hardest punching boxers in history he fought the hardest punchers in boxing history sonny liston and Big george forman
@@shemereali551 well he was billed at 6’3 but you’re splitting hairs arguing over an inch pal 😂 they measure him before fights they don’t just ask him how tall he is 🤣
@@SonnyK248 I am telling u what his trainer Angelo Dundee said his height was to those racists sport reporters/commentators back then point blank period
Oh hey thanks so much for crediting me Tony! It takes a lot of time to find all the clips of those specific techniques from multiple fights for my breakdowns, so I appreciate the courtesy you've shown. This was a great video btw. It's funny that Ali fought his tallest competitors near the exact same way he fought everyone else. They definitely weren't his best competition over all, but he was so fast he could pull off all the same tricks. I doubt he could do that with the same ease against some of today's modern fighters, but I still feel he would adapt and beat the large majority of them. Especially after seeing what Usyk could do against Fury. Just my opinion though :)
Yeah, I agree like the Ernie Terrell fight, Ali while giving up 3in in height to Terrell who was 6’6” still used the hands down circle and jab approach and eventually taunted Terrell. So I believe Ali would take Klitchko, AJ, and Fury. Usyk is an interesting one, is style is so different to what Ali faced I wonder how that would shake out, I personally believe the fight goes the distance and if the fight is greater than 10 rounds Ali takes it just because of his stamina he showed in the later rounds of so many fights his hand and foot speed would also wear Usyk out throughout the fight. What do you think about a Usyk vs Ali fantasy matchup?
Ali’s era was full of savages - killers. His footwork was so beautiful, I just don’t see anyone touching him
Extremely overrated
@@chalkandcheese1868its lunacy- todays fighters would annihilate him
@@mistersparkles1842That's the farthest from reality. Ali would dominate the space if you transported him to today.
@@mistersparkles1842 Only somebody who is either, under 18 YO, or a boxing novice/neophyte would ever say something so foolish.
AN OLD 45 year old FOREMAN was winning rings in the 80s and beating guys up in the early 90s. An OLD Larry Holmes was beating guys up into the 80s.
THIS ERA of HWs is trash. Joshua's okay. Ruiz meh. Wilder, one trick pony. Fury, CRIMINALLY OVERRATED, lost to Ngannou a guy who'd never fought a boxing match before.
LMAO children...
@@chalkandcheese1868 *Tyson Fury is Extremely overrated.
Corrected it for you. Fury is top 3 in this era, right? In his PRIME he LOST to Ngannou who had never fought a boxing match in his life before LMAOOOOOOOOOO.
That's your king? Expectations have dropped a lot since the 70s.
PRIME Foreman would smoke this entire era lol.
Why he would -
1) Prime Ali's movement , they wouldn't be able to catch him , & plus because of their size , they would get tired.
2) Prime Ali's chin & grit
I haven’t seen anyone tire out fury
@@NotVeryGudGamerfury’s never fought 15 rounds. Cant compare
@@user-ku5hs3ji8kFighting 15 rounds is misleading, you fight at faster pace at less rounds bc the championship rounds are 10/12 not 13/15 where fighters conserve punches later in the fight .
Thei size? Usyk is not bigger than Ali
@@Nekudzayes he is lol
Ali vs Usyk is the fight I would have really wanted to see.
That would be the most boring one stylistically. You can watch that fight just watch Ali vs southpaw Karl Mildenberger ,I’d find it hard pressed someone takes Ali if they actually watch the full fight .
pure skills . Usyk got this UD ,
@@UncleTermite Al struggled badly vs south paw because there was not a lot of them back in the days . Usyk is way too skilled as a south paw .
Mike tyson vs Joe Frazier is the fight I would like to see...
Have you got a video on good stretches for boxing? Love the videos by the way. Great clear and concise information.
One thing's for sure: the social media trash talk between Ali and Fury would have been appointment viewing, regardless of medium. XD
I think you're overestimating Tyson Fury. His boxing resume doesn’t compare to Ali's, i don't put him in the same class as Ali.
Mike Tyson v Ali is a great argument. I don't have Tyson in my top five heavyweights of all time, but styles make fights but he would cause difficulties for Ali.
For me if they fought ten times, i have Ali winning seven.
I love these debates, by the way. Great video.
James Tillis has a style which can be comparable to Ali's and he made a lot of trouble to Tyson. Considering that Ali was a lot better than Tillis we can argue that Ali would dominate Tyson. Finally, we will never know...
I agree with you about Mike Tyson, the only one, maybe along with Lennox Lewis, who could fight Ali worthily. Let us not forget that the unbeatable Tyson was only the one before prison, who was unrivaled from 1985 to 1990. For me if Ali fought ten times vs. that Mike Tyson, he would lose seven times.
Ali would destroy Tyson 10 out of 10 times.
Tyson would beat Ali very easily, he's 50 lbs heavier and 5-6 inches taller, much longer reach. Tyson has way better fundamentals, Ali was too unorthodox. Tyson is probably the fastest "big man" we've ever seen in boxing, and Ali got hit A LOT, probably more than anyone in the history of boxing.
You can't just let a 260+ lb 6'8 guy pummel you on the ropes, "rope a dope" wouldn't work.
@JGphotoyt Ali would destroy Tyson just like Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis did. Tall fighters with a strong jab that could handle Tysons shots could always beat him. Ali had a such a strong chin he'd easily beat Tyson.
Ali setups and traps would be too much. Klitschko would have a hard time tracking the combos, and you can’t clinch something that’s moving. Fury could not put footwork Ali, Joshua would have to be in position to land a punch, and Usyk may have the best chance given his speed angles but range would be an issue. To be honest, I don’t see current heavies beating Joe Frazier.
They wouldn’t beat Joe nor foreman too hell Ken Norton would dominate as well
😂 crazy. Ali would be an amateur nowadays. But hey, fairytales man. Love it...
@@boepiesnoep7867 that's just ridiculous.
A prime Frank Bruno would knockout all these guys..including Lennox Lewis.
Ali, tyson, foreman, frazier, holyfield, jones jr, lewis, liston, holmes, tua, morrison. All in one era. The best of the big guys at heavyweight. Pure boxing wet dream fantasy.
USYK IS THE 🐐
Ali would absolutely dominate today the only era I think he struggles in is in the 80s to 90s era. Ali personifies ahead of his time. We have yet to see a heavyweight move like him and have the speed he had in terms of reflexes and overall agility.
Prime Ali will wipe out all mentioned from this list.
Thank you. Your putting Ali’s advanced age.
Ali Gets neged😂
@@Ehrle6969no he doesn’t
Absolutely not. Foreman was one of the biggest and hardest hitters at the time, and he was 220lbs when he fought Ali. Smaller than Usyk, and not a tenth as fast or technical.
Ali would've never beaten guys like Usyk. However, if Ali had grown up with modern sports science and the evolution of boxing since his day, then he could've been competitive.
@@TheStraightestWhitest usyk is a weaker holefield, ali negs usyk ask dubois and chisora
George Foreman and Larry Holmes came back and did well against young fighters when they were old. So why would Ali have major problems fighting modern fighters in his prime
exactly
Foreman got the snot bashed out of him by Holyfield, and he didn't have the guts to fight Lewis, Bowe, Tyson etc
By that time, Foreman was already old enough to box and still held his own against the youngsters.
He never came back because he had Parkinsons, you ding dong. He was diagnosed three years after retirement.
prime ali is unbeatable .
todays division is a joke , ali would wipe the floor with these guys .
There were plenty of boxers in the past who were just as big as the big men now - the underrated Ernie Terrell was 6'6" for example and Ali made a complete mockery of him. Ali boxed some of the hardest hitting HWs of all time - Foreman, Shavers, Lyle, Cleveland Williams, Liston. Ali would have no problem with the power of modern HWs, assuming they could even land a punch.
Ali would beat every modern HW without difficulty. Only someone like Lennox Lewis would be a problem. Fun question. If peak Ali fought Wilder, would Wilder even land a single meaningful punch
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I don't care how many isotonic drinks they've had. Comparing Muhammed Ali to these modern lumps, is like comparing a Race Horse to a Cart Horse.
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Amen 🙏
Thank you, somebody said it.
Tyson Fury would knock him out in one round
@@Draconianoverlord55 Tyson Fury wouldn't have got near Ali, because he has as much grace & poise as a Pink Flamingo.
Ali is a legend, he would be a beast even today. Great content as always🥊
I agree, Tyson at his best is simply unbeatable. He is in another tier.
This aged poorly
Got beat up by a guy even smaller than Ali lol
@@syed269usyk is the same height and same weight bro
I'll send you a history of boxing you can read to help with your education. 😂
Great presentation!
Ali, Holmes and Forman would clean the modern day house.
Foreman was dominating in his 40-50
Foreman punched himself out against Ali and had pretty much no head movement. Can't see Foreman doing good today.
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I think Usyk is comparable to Ali in skill and agility. So him doing so well in todays heavyweight era shows how well Ali would have done.
Not at all. Usyk is much more skilled. He bullied big men. Ali bullied small men. Huge difference .
@@anul6801ali vs Forman
@@agarhuss Foreman was the same size as Ali.
Ali & Usyk both 6’3” with 78” reach. Plus both have a 66% KO rating!
@@anul6801You are right but I get the guys point, they're comparable in some respects in regards to anyone recently who has remotely similar skill level, agility and speed. Usyk has that mental edge as well, he'd give Ali a run for his money in the mental war as well I think.
This was brilliantly, respectfully done. Nice job! I'm as of now a subscriber! My thought, as far as the reach disadvantage, Ali got past the fearsome Liston, who had am 84" reach. By the way, a similar video on Liston might be an idea. But I feel Usyk would pose the most danger.
Usyk cant handle Alis speed. Sorry but I love Usyk but his DEFENSE imo isn't great enough to beat Ali. He demolished Tyson Fury and STILL sustained a lot of damage.
You need ELITE head movement to beat Ali and, strangely enough, Usyk is too tall. Ali strugled against SHORTER fighters like Frazier who, imo, gave him the most trouble. Somebody like PRIME Mike Tyson would post more danger to Ali.
Heck, I think PRIME Mike Tyson KO's Usyk but that's just me. This era is weak and they don't wanna fight each other. Prime Liston probably beats Usyk too.
PAST HIS PRIME Ali avenged losses to Frazier and Norton - ONLY a freak of nature could do that.
Now, had Usyk BEAT a PRIME Klitschko or a PRIME Lennox lewis, okay NOW we are talking.
Fury is overrated. Wilder? One trick pony. Joshua is a good but Usyk beat him twice and exposed his lack of ELITE hand speed.
I agree on Wilder. If you could get past that one,deadly sudden punch, he had no plan B. Tyson had this way of getting inside the taller opponents and unloaded bombs like few others before him. He really was a force of nature. I think young Tyson would have brought Fury to the floor in 4 rounds.
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Ali would be Ali in today’s world if we’re talking about in his prime.
Love your content, Tony. Especially the videos showing self-defense and how to punch properly. I was bullied in school, but no social media back then punching tips would have come in handy. But hopefully younger guys and ladies get the benefit of it. And great vid love boxing! Have Ali book and watched documentary's. Hands down the greatest heavyweight ever in any decade.
interesting fact: Usyk was born 17th January like Muhammed Ali
Let's be honest, a big part of what Ali did was pure show off and quite rubbish in terms of defence, BUT he was so incredibly good that he could get away easily with a style that would have killed anybody else. He also was a true warrior and could take incredible amounts of beating, which rounded off the gaps in that defence. And, mentally speaking Ali was in a level way above any modern boxer. Big opponents? Man, this guy got his title back 30+ years old from no other than the giant Foreman, and I doubt Fury can hit harder than Big Joe. So IMO an Ali in his primer and with modern training, i.e. same conditions as any modern boxer would still reign.
Usyk v Ali would be amazing
Ali has the ability to outbox and smart anyone who's a pure boxer including Usyk!
Ali had an.. iron jaw, massive will to win!, speed, athleticism,endless gas tank!, every punch in the book!... the guy was a monster!.... you give that man modern training techniques and he is as dominant today as he was then. Theres only one true GOAT!... And thats ALI.
Modern techniques don't mean shit imo. You said it yourself: if Ali is the goat he had good enough techniques I'd say.
Best thing for a fighter is to fight often. Back in the days top guys had stay busy fights. Keeps the fighter sharp!
And pittypat punches
Ali was dropped a few times. Vitali Klitschko and Usyk (so far) are the only heavyweight champs to not get knocked down.
Larry Holmes was an elite HW in the 70/s, 80/s and 90/s. Beating prime HW/s in each era - from Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton to Gerry Cooney, Tim Witherspoon to Ray Mercer. His mental toughness and talents transcended those eras. And I'd take those skills today over the benefits of sports science. If the likes of Larry Holmes, Sonny Liston, Ali, Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Ike Ibeabuchi, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Tim Witherspoon, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Dukes and Greg Page were around today - they'd be no room in the top 10 for the likes of Fury, Joshua and Wilder.
If u think AJ & Fury couldn’t compete with those guys, then u don’t know the sport. Ray Mercer drew with Marion Wilson ffs 😂
Ali vs : Holyfield, Tyson, or Lewis would have been the most epic fight of all time.
smashed the adds in this one mate bit much
Ali's footwork for that weightclass is unmatched till this day.
Usyk's footwork might be better, the game has changed.
It's an age old question, would ????? beat Mohamed Ali? And it's something we'll never know. All I can say is, I'm just glad I was around to see that heavyweight division of the 1970s. Ali elevated boxing to its highest status, the ultimate athlete, charismatic, bright and handsome. I still watch his Parkinson interviews every now and again.
Fury is 6'7".
Also, Ernie Terrell was world champion in the 60s. He was 6'6".
It's not so much the height that's changed, it's the weight
The difference between 6'3 and 6'6 is only 3 inches. That is a marginal difference.
But the weight changes, average was about 210lbs in the 70s. Now the average is about 230lbs - 260lbs.
Fury is the best of the worst would have been completely outboxed embarrassed and retire on stool around 7th round
@@nazraz6537 factsss
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270Fury got schooled by Usyk - how do you agree with that😂
@@kai_johnsonn and how this weight work for today's fighter showed us Usyk :D Who outboxed these fat guys
Muhammad Ali the greatest of all time, a ring technician, with superior skills to destroy and defeat all of them. He never ducked an opponent and never got knocked out, he also defeated his biggest opponent, the brutal evil racist American government. MUHAMMAD ALI is the GOAT. ✊🏿
One thing not mentioned about Ali , he never attacked to the body , only the head ...... to this day I've never seen anyone repeat this amazing feat . The fact he was able to achieve this is incredible. He truely is the greatest .
Are we talking 12 or 15 rounds? Because Ali on 12 rounds doesn't have to reserve anything, while 15 rounds for the likes of AJ and Fury is going to be a major struggle.
And if we are taking about modern day boxing, Ali benefits from the same and doesn't have to deal with being drafted for Vietnam and missing years of his career. In this hypothetical situation, Ali would run rings around all of these guys.
1966 Ali is undefeatable
Excellent point, especially now post Usyk vs Fury, where Fury gassed sometime around the 8th round. There's no way he survives against the Ali that went 15 full rounds with a prime Joe Frazier.
Have you guys actually watched Ali's fights? He and his opponents get really sluggish after 8 or so rounds. Though sports science has gotten better these days, Ali didn't get to benefit from that.
@@Ultizer did you see Ali Frazier 3? Two guys well past their primes battling like warriors to the bitter end. When motivated, Ali often elevated his game in later rounds
@@djardine2520 They looked slow as hell after 10 rounds. Ali especially looks bad, im surprised Fraizer lost this one but Ali's corner admitted they were seconds away from quitting also.
Not even close. Where Fury worked with inches, Ali worked with millimetres. Ali was a lot faster of hand, head and foot, and had a higher ring IQ... A GREAT CHIN to match and an indomitable mindset.
Agreed. Tyson Fury is much bigger than Ali. Also, Ali took punches from Ernie Shavers and people say he was the hardest punches in history. Ali had a chin man.
Usyk has the same height, weight and reach as Ali and he's beaten all the giants to become champion, so Ali definitely has a chance to do the same.
I love Ali more than just about anybody but you make a really good point about his style being tougher to pull off against bigger guys - a good example is Joe Bugner, who was the only guy who made Ali stalk/walk him down and fight a more orthodox style, and that made him look awkward AF - but Ali being Ali, always finds a way
he also made bad choices and risky bet vs south paws . Only worked because they were not top level . This is why im convinced usyk beat Ali .
I think you're also forgetting in Muhammad Ali's era fighters fought 15 rounds not 12. I don't think fury would have the stamina with that weight to go 15 rounds and even if he did he would still be out pointed. Ali by SD.
If you fight 15 rounds you train for 15 rounds , if you fight for 12 rounds you train for 12 rounds . It’s not a can’t do it thing you prepare your rounds , punch counts etc to whatever the fight is .
Don’t forget Ali was a master of Psychological Warfare BEFORE the matches.. he beat you down mentally before he ever touched your and even during the fight the warfare continued. Ali would be getting in their heads and under their skin verbally during the match this might be part of the X factor of Ali nowadays as the trash talking is at an abysmal level compared to his heyday
Imagine what that would do to Mike Tyson (if he didn't respect and adore Ali so much). It would make him even more dangerous. Mike went in to kill people.
Yeah he really psyched out Frazier and Norton lmfao
good luck doing that to usyk
@@chalkandcheese1868 duh…show me where I claimed it worked every time
@@bensylver5113 head-butting doesn’t count as trash talk
We never saw Ali in his prime.
That's speculation, we never saw Joe Fraizer or Sonny Liston in there prime either, but its only fair to judge what they accomplished not what they could have been.
Yeah but look what happened to Tyson after his lay off!Ali had a lay off of 4 odd years .....
Are you high? 🫣🤣 ali famboys delusional
@@deivytrajan yeah same weed you smoke....
Terrific breakdown! You mentioned how smart Ali was. I think that he would have figured out how to modify his technique to better suit fighting taller, more athletic opponents. For example, he didn't leave his chin exposed when he fought Foreman. Also, when he fought Foreman he showed he could take virtually unlimited punishment to the body. He also showed how incredibly tough he was when he fought Ken Norton for 14 rounds with a broken jaw (although he lost that one). I'm not sure he could have knocked any of your four modern fighters out; but I think he could have gone the distance with any of them....and with his ultra-quick hands, he could have racked up enough points to beat any of them.
Klitschko is technically exceptional, like Norton he might be vulnerable to big punchers but he is hard for a smaller man to outbox. Dangerous fight for Ali that he might well lose.
AJ can punch but he's only a good (not great) boxer. He got outboxed by Povetkin and Kltschko and got bailed out by his power. He got handily beaten by the much smaller Usyk. Against Ali he'd have to get lucky, no way he wins a boxing match.
Usyk is just very slick. Ali was a bit faster and a more natural talent, Usyk is more technically sound with the high guard and the textbook combinations. Very tough fight to call.
Tyson Fury is an awkward fight. I can see Ali dancing on the outside and then ripping combinations inside, I can see Fury jabbing and grabbing to frustrate him. I'd probably give Ali an edge in that one.
Fury is the easist one to call, sadly Fury is super over rated one of the things folks credit him with speed is a thing he truely lacks. Ngannou exposed him for that Wilder beat him with speed. Hard to see a man that moves so poorly around the ring with slow telegraphed punches being able to match up aginst the boxer with the greastest foot work ever seen. Fury would be swing at air most of the time. The rest i do agree with.
How is Ali a more natural talent ? What kind of statement is that.? Usyk had over 300 Amateur fights ,if he didn't have a natural talent he never would of started boxing so early.People can't get over the fact that Usyk is simply better than everyone today and him and Ali would be a great match at the same weight,say 200 lbs. Get them at their best weight ,you have the fight of the century. . At their near highest weight Usyk would dominate Ali. Ali@230 vs. Usyk@220. Ali vs Foreman was not Ali's best although it was his most impressive victory.Ali in truth in his prime at his best was a Cruiserweight or just above.
Don't forget the heart and damage absorption ability Ali had. I don't see anyone doing the Thrilla in Manilla ever again.
Getting hit so much you get brain damage is no flex
@@ScorpionSuerte His legendary chin is a flex
@@Trekzity To uneducated boxing fans perhaps, but in life it's a massive L.
@@ScorpionSuerte So you're an uneducated boxing fan
@@Trekzity Your response makes no sense. Is English your 2nd language?
I believe Ali would be even better in today's boxing
Nobody could take a punch like Ali. Ali's era was like no other..today's fighters are bigger but clumsy.
I imagine a heavyweight super series with Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Holmes , Marciano Johnson, Louis, Lewis, Frazier, maybe throw in Fury , Bowe, Holyfield and a few others , all age 22 .. and let the battles ensue
Fighters peak at different ages. At 22 I think Iron Mike has a big advantage.
@@alstone4253 I think so too , but Ali was at his peak then I think
You forgot about Dempsey, he’s gonna bust a few jaws and orbital bones.
I love this type of content,
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@@Tony_Jeffrieshey,
thank you champ.
@@Tony_Jeffries when big names like ali get mentioned every casual boxing fan suddenly starts yelling😂
I like you tony, because your not blind. You see that heavyweights of the past where not technical ( or very skilled ) compared to today.
Ofcourse a smart guy like ali could thrive in a period with mostly head hunting sluggers and brawlers.
You see them miss punches to the head like 10 times and they still think to themselves lets try 10 more of the same haha.
Mike tyson would destroy ali in his prime( he is a nightmare version of joe frazier ). And ali would get outboxed by todays guys who fight smart. ( although not all of them because bad conditioning, i think lennox lewis and holyfield era would be more challenging for ali )
Ali was something special for that time period because back then heavyweights where not skilled/smart enough for him.
He was a very good fighter ahead of his time. But he would absolutely have problems with the technique, skills and nutrition of modern fighters in my opinion.
There’s a reason he’s still known as the greatest.
Traing metods mean absolutely nothing compared to a mans will of never accepted defeat! Which is why Ali is the greatest heavyweight of all time he went into battles where the odds were astronimically against him yet he still won!!!!
Tyson fury is surprisingly agile and is probably the closest to alis footwork we're every gonna get for a long time. But I just gotta give it to ali. Muhammad ali in his prime had an iron chin and amazing grit and I feel like the fight would be a more contested version of the rumble in the jungle. But I respect your view on this cuz modern fighters training methods are very advanced
I heavily disagree I personally I think fury’s footwork is amazing but not to the point of Ali’s, I think a lot of it is because of his stature Ali was fit and in my opinion a lot more fast than fury. I feel as though fury has the best footwork of any heavyweight as of now, but in the long run I still think Ali wins in that department
@@S33n13 yeah I agree with you. I was just saying that I can understand Tony's view
@@S33n13 ali was a legend on all aspects man, even Tyson admits ali was a monster
@@infiniteanimator518 Yea me as well I really hope you didn’t think I wanted to debate, I just had a different opinion is all
@@S33n13 sorry my bad dude, didn't want a debate either. Ali is the GOAT 🐐
There still has never been a Heavyweight with the hand speed, footwork, and chin since Ali. Probably never will be another
Usyk.
I am an Usyk fan, but in my mind Ali is still the goat in the heavyweight division.
My conclusion after the Usyk Fury fight is that none of the heavyweights of today can compete with Ali in his prime... Usyk is currently the best heavyweight of today and Joshua has improved quite a lot, but no heavyweight of today has the same reflexes, speed, stamina, footwork, combinations and most importantly adaptability to pressure as compared to Ali... If Ali and Usyk would have fought each other in their prime, Ali would make usyk miss in the starting rounds by staying out of range and using his footwork, and usyk will eventually give in to the pressure after a couple rounds... Fury was landing against Usyk in the middle rounds but didn't threw enough combinations, being conceited after each punch and didn't stay on the right gameplan for enough time... Usyk is an incredible boxer but is still vulnerable, which doesn't make him credible to win against The Greatest of All Time !!!
I hope this becomes a series on your channel. Pac-Man, Mayweather, Roy Jones Jr, Prince Naz, 4 Kings VS modern day boxers
Throw James Toney in there
The real Muhammed Ali was all before 1967 mostly captured in black and white film clips. In 1967 he refused to enter the draft citing religious reasons and he did not fight for over 3 1/2 years. When he returned he was good but not the same speed and sharpness. He also hurt his right hand so for all of his fights after 1970 he never threw hard right hand punches, he basically fought with one hand. So most of his famous fights, the 3 Frazier fights, the Norton fights, the Foreman fight, were after when he was not in his prime. Ali took most of his damage during these later fights. During his pre 1967 days he was so fast and agile he rarely got hit hard. Ali was great but he was human, I think Mike Tyson in his prime would have beaten Ali. Ali did not have the power to keep Tyson away and Tyson was very quick and agile on his feet. Tyson was trained from 13 years old to fight Larry Holmes a fighter with a similar style and size to Ali. Ali had extraordinary ability to take a punch and he was crazy competitive. They said that nobody else could have ever taken the punches that Ali took in the 3rd Frazier fight.
I agree with everything except the Mike Tyson part based on how he did against James Tillis and Tony Tucker, who fought with a broken hand
Tyson, I kind of agree, out of all of them he would have been the most dangerous.
Ali is the best boxer all times imho. In his prime nowadays he would beat everybody in the boxing classes.
Some close, some dominant, but he would still win, imho
nah usyk got this
Sonny Liston had a reach of 84 inches and George Foreman said his was the hardest punch he ever took. Ali could dodge those punches. Anthony Joshua has a reach of 82 inches
Ali ,beats them all ,no problem
I think Tyson Fury is the only person he couldn't beat.
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Usyk beat him
Tyson himself said he would lose to a prime Ali but Ali wasn't so sure. Fury said he would last one round against Tyson. But... styles make fights and fights usually go to the bigger guy. It comes down to mental toughness. Fury is mentally tough but Ali was one of a kind. Look at what he went through! He beat many many men larger and stronger than himself and was tested by the best of his era ducking no-one unlike Marciano who ducked Archie Moore for years and Foreman who refused to give Liston a shot even when he was old! Ali was asked about Maricano and he mentioned science being better hence him being more likely to beat him. It's a tough one but my theory and I would love to see a video on it is that until the recent giant era all heavyweight champions weighed around 100kg and were between 5'10 (usually over 6 foot) and 6'3 . Incidentlally, Ali was taller than stated. Look at the footage of him against Bugner and Foreman both around 6'4. He was also mentally secure and prepared to be truly unpopular unike the snowflakes we have today.
Doesnt matter what they said. Ali's skill is way more prehistoric, not as advance. Ali won't last in todays boxing boo
@@PoombaiNews
Thats not true ..
Modern boxing has changed cardio wise
But the fundamentals r the same
Floyd mayweather uses old school training
Most top boxers use old school methods
Fitness for fighting isnt anything like general fitness training
Bro with all of modern science and technology for today’s athletes they don’t even go 15rounds anymore. NBA players don’t play 82 games anymore. Injuries are more frequent so Prime Muhammad Ali before he had his title stripped would absolutely shred today’s fighters.
He 100% would, the heavyweight division hasn’t really changed all that much since then compared to the lighter divisions
Tony i really believe you dont give George Forman enough credit. To say these days that fighters are better is valid . However a fighter like George in his physical prime could have certainly ruined any one of them . Lets be real here
I believe Muhammad Ali will still dominate his chin is literally amazing true legend
Brilliant podcast
He would mop the floor with them, supernatural talent.
For Tyson vs Ali it’s hard because Ali was so fast with his feet but also Tyson is so fast with his hands it’s really hard
Furys hands are super slow. Watch them vs wilder or Ngannou that is a combination of really poor foot work and slow hands. Furys shoulders are tiny for his size. So they rob him of conection to his body and really slow him down. Fury has always been talked up as having fast hands, he really does not. Fast hands start with great foot work. This is Fury's greatest weakness his foot work is very poor worst of the top 4 curently. He is rarely able to get his front foot either inside or out side the line of the other guys foot. This always leaves him out of measure. Some thing AJ demonstrated how to do vs Ngannou. Thus when fury send his one decent punch it has little wieght behind it. Agian an issue with small shoulders for his size. Also fury has not fought any one good really. Ngannou beat him wilder beat him twice.
Tysons feet r the same peed as much lighter boxer's