The Desk Made of Radiators can cool ANYTHING

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:27 - The Plan
    3:10 - Assembly Begins
    5:40 - Plumbing the Loop
    8:03 - Desk Modification
    9:53 - Filling the Loop
    11:37 - Attaching the Rads to the Desk
    13:00 - POST?
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  • @flexispotus
    @flexispotus Před 2 lety +13268

    Yes at this point we have to admit that when it comes to modify our desk into a radiator desk, our E7 desk with really “good” steel is a bug actually.

    • @elainey8998
      @elainey8998 Před 2 lety +1418

      rare to see complaints about the quality of the product being too good. Good job FlexiSpot🤣

    • @aryadhole
      @aryadhole Před 2 lety +138

      Love your stuff.

    • @nickkk420
      @nickkk420 Před 2 lety +218

      @@elainey8998 I've had monster cables fit so tight they tore out their female receptacle on tvs

    • @TheFree33333
      @TheFree33333 Před 2 lety +367

      @@nickkk420 electronic prolapse

    • @thebkg
      @thebkg Před 2 lety +97

      Or just get better/newer/sharper Drill Bits! I used to do large speaker and lighting rigging install which had me drilling I-Beams (among other things). It's doable with a Good basic drill. But the bits Have to be sharp, and you need to use oil. 😎

  • @ColtonSpears
    @ColtonSpears Před 2 lety +203

    Never thought I'd here this when a company provides something for a video:
    "Protocase agreed to do this for us on one condition. We tell you not to buy from them"

    • @pietrmuffei8874
      @pietrmuffei8874 Před 2 lety +22

      Answering e-Mails takes time…

    • @soulfinderz
      @soulfinderz Před 2 lety

      They only want to be contacted by the right customers, the ones with deep pockets

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 Před 2 lety +1

      i'd hear

    • @MrBiron1
      @MrBiron1 Před 2 lety

      900$ I think

  • @AKOsiMORRIS
    @AKOsiMORRIS Před 2 lety +531

    so basically, if you use ultra thick radiators and make this setup entirely passive (considering you live in colder places with long winters) this desk can be used as a passive room heater (when the temperature equalizes between the pc and the amount of water in the setup) this is hilariously genius

    • @Kepe
      @Kepe Před 2 lety +86

      It doesn't matter what kind of cooling system you use if the PC parts are the same, it'll heat up the room just as much. 200W CPU + 350W GPU will dump 550W of heat into your room no matter how you cool them.

    • @canadajones9635
      @canadajones9635 Před rokem +28

      @@Kepe Yes, but passive heat flow can be considered more pleasant than active, fanned heat flow.

    • @Kepe
      @Kepe Před rokem +14

      @@canadajones9635 I don't think people have their computers set up in a way that they blow the heated air towards them. And if you're using the computer (that's when they usually generate the most heat) it's nicer to have the warm air blown away from you than to have the radiators under your arms.

    • @1stRanger
      @1stRanger Před rokem

      Desk top full of holes that may also heat up to uncomfortably high temperatures and costs a small fortune? Yeah, that's "hilariously genius".

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 Před rokem

      @@Kepe I've been thinking about this a bit, wouldn't a large thermal mass (such as a bunch of radiators with water) would absorb some of the heat and make your room cooler than otherwise?

  • @Jinx1927
    @Jinx1927 Před rokem +157

    I absolutely love that Protocase custom cut the build under the condition that they tell us not to try buying custom cases from them.

    • @thunderlucas8923
      @thunderlucas8923 Před rokem

      Oh hello Mr Fennix

    • @Jinx1927
      @Jinx1927 Před rokem +1

      @@thunderlucas8923 :O You recognize da fennix!

    • @mikehawk4517
      @mikehawk4517 Před rokem +11

      "We specialize in making low-quantity prototype cases but please don't contact us about your low-quantity prototype cases, please."

    • @janhoogland6104
      @janhoogland6104 Před 6 měsíci

      @@mikehawk4517 Don't contact them if you are broke because shit cost alot of money.

    • @Cosmopean
      @Cosmopean Před 6 měsíci

      @@mikehawk4517 "We specialize in making low-quantity prototype cases but please don't contact us about your low-quantity prototype cases if all you have to pay for it is $110, please" Fixed that for you.

  • @ebsolas
    @ebsolas Před 2 lety +599

    Of all the projects on LTT. Alex's are my favorite. The hacky-janky-"this is so dumb it just might work" type videos are, to me, what LTT is all about.

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox Před 2 lety +2349

    This turned out way better than I expected from the teaser!

    • @vaisakhkm783
      @vaisakhkm783 Před 2 lety +9

      from that short, i thought it might be terrible idea because he did say it was really warm... :)
      under promised over delivered...

    • @boydsmith2732
      @boydsmith2732 Před 2 lety +3

      Next idea, Chair made of radiators

    • @leliboo2445
      @leliboo2445 Před 2 lety +2

      @@boydsmith2732 gonna cook the balls

    • @trackingdifbeatsaber8203
      @trackingdifbeatsaber8203 Před 2 lety +5

      Next video "10 gamers one heat sink"

    • @rather-reverend
      @rather-reverend Před 2 lety

      EposVox: Stream Professor and Commenter in Chief! (P.S. No hate, man. Basically, if I'm not sure whether I want to watch, I can just check your comment ... )

  • @chrispritchard7977
    @chrispritchard7977 Před rokem +70

    Finally someone with a radiator setup larger than mine. I have been running only 2 radiators for years but they are 1080 radiators (360x360 or 9x120mm per side of each radiator). This is one of the projects I wish I could have been there in person so see/help with a build like this one.

  • @OlleStrandberg
    @OlleStrandberg Před 2 lety +2396

    Alex saying: "It isn't a totally stupid idea" is what I feel like he says everytime he pitches an idea for a video.

    • @WyldWolfDragon
      @WyldWolfDragon Před 2 lety +17

      xD Yeees but we all love it and want some of them ideas lol

    • @GeorgeJFW
      @GeorgeJFW Před 2 lety

      😂💯

    • @lostboi2271
      @lostboi2271 Před 2 lety +1

      True lol

    • @bengrogan9710
      @bengrogan9710 Před 2 lety +10

      You missed the ", I promise this time" at the end

    • @thumba-umba2699
      @thumba-umba2699 Před 2 lety +7

      Golden rule of engineering: if it looks stupid but it works - it ain't stupid.

  • @moralapostel
    @moralapostel Před 2 lety +827

    Man LTT made a lot of stupid jank shit in the past, but Alex really hit gold this time. This thing looks absolutely amazing, seems well built and is also somewhat practical. Good job! Seriously.

    • @FlameMage2
      @FlameMage2 Před 2 lety +28

      Agreed, this is about "DIY Perks" grade quality. Great job Alex & team!

    • @mndlessdrwer
      @mndlessdrwer Před 2 lety +17

      A certain amount of jank is a requirement for LTT videos, otherwise you'd be going over to watch someone who actually tries to seem professional, like Gamer's Nexus.

    • @BBROPHOTO
      @BBROPHOTO Před 2 lety +10

      Totally agree. Alex’s videos are some of my favourites as it’s janky meets engineering.

    • @scurvofpcp
      @scurvofpcp Před 2 lety +4

      I do kinda miss the jank.

    • @zonaloca
      @zonaloca Před 2 lety +6

      We are not even on June and Alex already made the best (in terms of quality, finish and overall performance) project of the year.

  • @AdamLindgrenComposer
    @AdamLindgrenComposer Před rokem +16

    ANTOINE!!! Thanks so much for joining the team and helping forge this new chapter in LTT! Have fun CADing everyones crazy ideas!

  • @gokalpcetin2769
    @gokalpcetin2769 Před rokem +35

    I think this is one of the videos I enjoyed the most in a while from LTT! Excellent build quality, no shortcuts or jenky stuff and it looks actually useable as Linus said!! Great job Alex, and of course everyone else who helped/collaborated!! I enjoyed every second of this video, even the segue to our sponsor, FlexiSpot! Thanks FlexiSpot! :D

  • @Loop_Kat
    @Loop_Kat Před 2 lety +218

    All this talk about how good the cooling is on this desk, but what you've really built is the most efficient Dorito crumb catcher I've ever seen, fantastic work

    • @Daedje
      @Daedje Před 2 lety +50

      Self cleaning desk. Just turn the industrial fans to max to blow the crumbs out.

    • @LifeWulf
      @LifeWulf Před 2 lety +24

      @@Daedje Just don't stand with your face directly over the desk when doing that. Don't want Doritos shrapnel in your eyes!

    • @DaBoomDude
      @DaBoomDude Před 2 lety +4

      @@Daedje imagine this desk with blowie-matrons in it...

    • @rudysal1429
      @rudysal1429 Před 2 lety +4

      You eat food at your desk and keyboard. You monster lol

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rudysal1429 nope, that's called home office or simply having a job in IT. 💁‍♂️

  • @LonelySandwich
    @LonelySandwich Před 2 lety +1373

    Linus: "People will sometimes spend 5, 600, even 1000 dollars on a tabletop"
    Wood prices rn: 🤨

  • @mandavaler
    @mandavaler Před rokem +39

    Idve had the fans blowing toward the floor as a foot warmer anyways my hands dont get cold but my feet do lol only thing to improve this would be slide in filter between the radiators and the desk top.

  • @UltimateSugar95
    @UltimateSugar95 Před rokem +1

    I used to work as a pipe fitter assembling and installing robotic welding fixtures. These videos remind me of the best days I had working there just screwing around in the shop. I'll admit, I'm jealous! You all look like you're having such a good time!

  • @jepoyburner
    @jepoyburner Před 2 lety +583

    Nice to know that Dan actually does work in the office and is not just the head of moving Linus stuff into his new house. Lol

    • @bigbundle3223
      @bigbundle3223 Před 2 lety +60

      i just love how he got out of probation and is suddenly in everything. like they couldnt wait to put him in videos

    • @Esablaka
      @Esablaka Před 2 lety +19

      @@bigbundle3223 Yeah he has really been in every single LTT video lately. He is amazing though.

    • @alexdavis9324
      @alexdavis9324 Před 2 lety +31

      @@bigbundle3223 they will work him into as many videos as they can. slowly increasing his role until he hosts a video solo. It's how they do it for everyone and it's a really good strategy

    • @Loup_Garou
      @Loup_Garou Před 2 lety +1

      @@alexdavis9324 watched LMG clips?

    • @SuperCubar
      @SuperCubar Před 2 lety

      Loled

  • @JakeHarris0
    @JakeHarris0 Před 2 lety +536

    Stick a filter across the bottom: solve the dust problem of pushing air through radiators (pull is much easier to clean); and the whole thing doubles as an air purifier!

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Před 2 lety +48

      That and a safety grid on the bottom would make this absolutely perfect.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Před 2 lety +19

      And it would protect against getting caught in the blades

    • @Fanta....
      @Fanta.... Před 2 lety +2

      this so much...

    • @tnt_gaming21
      @tnt_gaming21 Před 2 lety +4

      pin this youre a genius

    • @jujuu1339
      @jujuu1339 Před 2 lety +1

      I'd put one on top because of gamer gunk

  • @kellyhiggins5703
    @kellyhiggins5703 Před rokem +1

    I really appreciate how they take the time to not only include, but edit in the titles of prior videos clips are taken from

  • @JoshuaGuptill
    @JoshuaGuptill Před rokem

    I bought one of their desks about a year ago. It arrived with a defective motor. Zero trouble getting a replacement part from them, and it's been solid since.

  • @thexgamer8240
    @thexgamer8240 Před 2 lety +306

    “This radiator desk can cool anything, from the fastest computer to my sponsor.”
    - Linus Sebastian, 2022

  • @dighawaii1
    @dighawaii1 Před 2 lety +235

    For anyone who sees this: The trick to drilling through metal is to press hard (not so hard that a thin bit might snap) and to not drill fast. You want it to spin about 5 rotations per second (pretty slow, but moving). A lot of people do not know this and spin the bit fast. This will dull your bit within one to two holes, or less if it's thick metal. By going slow you give the bit time to "bite" and peel the metal. Fast turning simply polishes your bit's leading edge, dulling it.
    It's counter-intuitive, but true. Once you practice this after a couple holes you will understand :) Be careful, anyone watching you drill, and who's not savvy, will question you.

    • @goatkingboss8478
      @goatkingboss8478 Před 2 lety +34

      and i would use a lubricant

    • @carsandtools
      @carsandtools Před 2 lety +3

      This guy carpenters.

    • @riothero313
      @riothero313 Před 2 lety +15

      @@goatkingboss8478 Yep, a center punch so it won't walk and a bit of cutting oil along with what the OP mentioned and it would be pretty easy. Also, I like using stepped bits in situations like that; were the hole doesn't have to have a perfect wall all the way through, or thick material.

    • @Kai_Ning
      @Kai_Ning Před 2 lety +10

      We call this drilling but we really ought to think about the task as "digging".

    • @samuraijaydee
      @samuraijaydee Před 2 lety +2

      Don't forget to put oil on the spot you're going to drill if you're drilling metal!

  • @ARUNMANOJ86
    @ARUNMANOJ86 Před rokem +3

    Imagine spilling your morning hot coffee on this desk :)

    • @soljafon
      @soljafon Před 10 dny

      It shouldn't do anything bc it's water tight

  • @evilhusky51
    @evilhusky51 Před rokem +55

    Car radiators can go for about the price of 1 or 2 of those pc radiators, the only issue as Linus found out before would be adaptors for the large hose outlet and inlet on the radiator to the size compatible for the pc. once you get around that it would be conceivable to do a similar setup for much cheaper. Would be interesting to see one done with the oil radiator on older vw bugs because if i remember correctly those have smaller inlets and outlets much closer to pc sized parts. (yes old vw's were oil cooled, not water cooled its quite interesting)

    • @deadaccount6135
      @deadaccount6135 Před rokem +1

      @Akaoni_Black only problem from a engineering perspective is the large amount of flow car radiators need to keep working. No pump available for PC's I'm aware of would work. But you might be able to get some form of large but thin industrial radiator that would suffice.

    • @joedingo7022
      @joedingo7022 Před rokem +4

      @@deadaccount6135 Another issue, PC radiators are designed to run in any orientation as you purge all of the air from the system, but car radiators are designed with a very specific orientation in mind, and both air and water in the radiator at any given time. You can modify them to run at funny angles, but it would require a bit extra effort.

    • @frostbite1991
      @frostbite1991 Před rokem

      ac condenser would be the way to go in this scenario.

    • @BennyJJO
      @BennyJJO Před rokem +8

      @@deadaccount6135 I'm running a car radiator in my loop for over 13 years now without any problems. I built myself adaptors. No corrosion (aluminum/copper - only using destilled water and some car anti freeze), no flow issues, possible in every orientation...
      And for 36 bucks new I get more cooling capability than any PC radiator could deliver.
      Most of the time it runs passive and if temps go up i got 3 x 200mm fans that run so slow you can't hear them.
      I'm running the loop with an Aquastream XT at ~75 liters per hour.

    • @ogonbio8145
      @ogonbio8145 Před rokem +4

      @@BennyJJO you could make a video of it and get a few thousand views

  • @quinnr1807
    @quinnr1807 Před 2 lety +1536

    The steel was hard to drill through because your drill bit RPM was too high for the diameter hole you were drilling. High carbon steel needs slower RPM's otherwise you'll work harden your material and burn out your drill bits. Low speed/High feed next time

    • @wv1764
      @wv1764 Před 2 lety

      I would've thrown an extension on there too

    • @iggysixx
      @iggysixx Před rokem +97

      Good tip.
      With harder steels, cobalt drill bits could also be a good idea. (They break easier, but will cut sooo much better)

    • @galacticboy2009
      @galacticboy2009 Před rokem +36

      I don't know if you're right but I want you to be right.

    • @jolioding_2253
      @jolioding_2253 Před rokem +48

      also cutting oil

    • @devinbridgwater
      @devinbridgwater Před rokem +45

      Get a load of this nerd over here...(translation: that's a really good point, I didn't realize that speed is a factor when drilling through metal.)

  • @noxious89123
    @noxious89123 Před 2 lety +352

    If you were to have the fans pull air down through the desk, you could 3D print some ducts / shrouds to direct the hot air towards the rear and side edges of the desk, so you wouldn't have hot air blowing onto your legs.

    • @bichela
      @bichela Před 2 lety +6

      Or duct air outside.

    • @brendanmassaro9595
      @brendanmassaro9595 Před 2 lety +2

      But then the desk would get really bulky

    • @mndlessdrwer
      @mndlessdrwer Před 2 lety +13

      If you're already getting protocase to make the top and brackets, might as well have them bend up a metal duct while you're at it. Send-Cut-Send is also a nice company to work with for getting stuff laser or waterjet cut and bent, though I'm not sure if they will also powdercoat. I'm sure their website lists all their services, though.

    • @pipooh1
      @pipooh1 Před 2 lety +30

      @@brendanmassaro9595 But you need to make a cover for the fans anyway. You don't want to randomly hit your knee into the fans while spinning or have a pet / kid be near it. So the duct works as a cover and redirect the air away from the user.

    • @keyboardwarrior6296
      @keyboardwarrior6296 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pipooh1 why not?

  • @qcgeneral29
    @qcgeneral29 Před rokem +2

    These types of builds are my favorite. Well designed and well executed.

  • @hyzeandlows
    @hyzeandlows Před rokem +4

    This is a great build!! Getting ideas.. also since you guys give me so many amazing tips - I have to give one in return! When drilling steel - try very slow speed and use cutting fluid or oil to keep the bit cool! ❤

  • @danieljensen2626
    @danieljensen2626 Před 2 lety +207

    The desk honestly looks awesome, like I would consider buying that.

    • @ElxCriiO
      @ElxCriiO Před 7 dny

      given that you can actually use it as a radiator is a pretty good piece to have

  • @TheRealSkeletor
    @TheRealSkeletor Před 2 lety +171

    I feel like with a properly set up fan curve (fans turning on well below 80°C, but also not 100% fan speed at any temperature), this would be the perfect balance of cool and quiet.

    • @siberx4
      @siberx4 Před rokem +2

      Using a fan controller with a temperature probe in the water loop would be ideal for this setup; pick a water temp you're comfortable with and have it keep the loop there at whatever RPM it takes. Controlling fans like this from something like CPU temperature is an impossible exercise, because 90% of the temperature rise occurs between the CPU die and waterblock but you have all the thermal inertia in the water to deal with. A "traditional" loop will spin the fans up way too fast under any load, because the temperature shift from the water heating up is swamped by the innate temperature shift of the CPU load spikes.

  • @Hostile_Design
    @Hostile_Design Před rokem +37

    Okay, some minor tweaks to this, and I would actually want one. It may be hacky AF, but this is awesome. Make the fans pull air downward and install some form of shroud to redirect the air from your feet and we'd be golden.

    • @soratorb
      @soratorb Před rokem +2

      I want to hook it up to a dryer exhaust pipe to vent the air outside for the summer, with a switch that lets you flip it to vent into your central HVAC system to use the heat during winter. It'd be glorious.

    • @aphfug
      @aphfug Před rokem

      it would be way too thick, couldn't spread my legs under it

    • @12345678bobster
      @12345678bobster Před 14 dny

      @@soratorb Man, some people really don't understand physics/thermodynamics. A PC will output a few hundred watt of heat at most - no matter how you cool it (so doesnt matter if you use a normal case/cooling setup, or a table like this). At absolute most you'll be able to increase the temperature of a small room by a few degrees (and for that you can just put a normal PC case with fan cooling into your room, so a completely stock setup), but using it to go to central HVAC to heat a house? Yeah... no, you'd bleed more heat along the way than the PC produces, and you'll not heat up anything.

  • @travistaylor2570
    @travistaylor2570 Před rokem +18

    Have you guys considered adding spacers between the top of the desk and the radiators so you could slide a mesh filter on top of each rad just to stop particles from landing in the rad that might be on the desk? Say like chips or other particulate matter you wouldn't want in there clogging them up?

  • @bender7167
    @bender7167 Před rokem +1

    Convenient how Flexispot was able to predict the random use cases their desks would be put through. Down right amazing work by their documentation and design teams.

  • @robertking3098
    @robertking3098 Před 2 lety +859

    Ugh!
    I used to build and race cars. One of the most common mistakes I see is running heat exchangers (water radiators, oil coolers, transmission coolers, etc...) in series -- just like you guys did.
    Heat exchangers work best when there is a large temperature drop. Running heat exchangers in series mean the first one is doing the most work, the second is doing about 25% of the work the first one is, and the rest are doing nearly zero cooling. Plus the flow restructions all add up, like resistors in series in an electrical circuit.
    Run your heat exchangers in PARALLEL. You'll get more efficient cooling (the fluid enters ALL the heat exchangers at the same temperature and the fluid spends MUCH longer in the heat exchanger.) You also get much lower flow restriction since, like resistors in parallel, the flow restriction is the inverse of thesum of all the heat exchanger's flow resistance.) Plus the hot air is spread more evenly across the entire desk.
    Now for this project, you're so over-cooled it doesn't matter, but for other water-cooled projects, it can make a big difference.

    • @craftgames1882
      @craftgames1882 Před 2 lety +65

      This is a good addition. Hope they will see your comment.

    • @HolybasilYT
      @HolybasilYT Před 2 lety +70

      I want a follow up video where they include these suggestions.

    • @atavusable
      @atavusable Před 2 lety +25

      I'm putting this tip in my head because I'm really curious aboutdoing an big external radiator now.

    • @Deroven
      @Deroven Před 2 lety +1

      Hummm, so how would a flow look on an lian Li o11 for example, if done accordingly?
      I wanna make it happen. 👀

    • @cameronthomas4290
      @cameronthomas4290 Před 2 lety +4

      thanks a ton, saw this at the right time. just did my radiators on a meyers manx with a subaru engine. I have 3 radiator (2 from motorcycle, 1 from prius inverter cooler lol) about to start it for the first time

  • @DasGanon
    @DasGanon Před 2 lety +83

    Solidworks: "The part is overdefined." **Removes dimension*" "The part is underdefined"

  • @TheGimpy117
    @TheGimpy117 Před rokem +4

    honestly a pre-made panel of those that you could hang off the back of any desk with a clamp or screw setup would be pretty cool (no pun intended) sell different sizes etc. probably a viable product if you have it draw heat away from user.

  • @spagamoto
    @spagamoto Před rokem +1

    Oh my gosh a kotatsu PC. As someone who is always cold at their desk (even during the summer) this sounds amazing.

  • @Neopulse00
    @Neopulse00 Před 2 lety +761

    17:40 - Seeing that the 12900KS went all the way to 82 degrees with the mods and the RTX 3090 peaking at 53 degrees kinda shows how hot Intel CPUs get.

    • @joemehnert7590
      @joemehnert7590 Před 2 lety +98

      all those radiators dont mean crap when the block connected to the cpu is "junk" / the weakest link. I did a similar project a decade ago with car radiators. Did not look nearly as professional as this though. System only as good as its weakest point. 101

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před rokem +34

      @@joemehnert7590 yea at that point it's not about the capacity of the radiators, but rather how much the direct connection to the chip is able to dissipate heat from such a small area. One of the benefits of larger dies and chip size is that heat dissipation is much easier to manage.

    • @Scarlet_Soul
      @Scarlet_Soul Před rokem +12

      And keep in mind they also have a copper IHS/liquid metal

    • @Jet-ij9zc
      @Jet-ij9zc Před rokem +22

      @@joemehnert7590 Linus said it was the modified cpu with the liquid metal and aftermarket part (the metal part that sits on top of the chip to transfer heat, I cant remember how it's called).
      So that cpu is actually way better then a stock one

    • @benfennell6842
      @benfennell6842 Před rokem +8

      @@Jet-ij9zc IHS (integrated heat spreader)

  • @DailyCorvid
    @DailyCorvid Před 2 lety +116

    As soon as I saw this I thought "It isn't a completely ridiculous idea" as it seems fairly practical. Two minutes in Alex says "It isn't as ridiculous as you might think!" and I was like yaaaay IT IS gonna be the greatest PC desk ever!

    • @tsartomato
      @tsartomato Před 2 lety +2

      it's more than completely ridiculous idea
      all the dust and grime will plug all holes in 2 days and it is uncomfortably hot
      also your knees hitting the bottom part every minute
      and it's fragile and it wouldn't be ablу to hold weight of my screens i have now, and i want much heavier ones

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 Před 2 lety +1

      It's not that big actually.
      Since cold stuff is always on the bottom and hot stuff always on the top, this method is kinda not effective.
      Maybe they need to make like.. a frame that cool the PC from above.
      Make like.. a box-like table that the top part(above the monitor and CPU) is the cooler part. The bottom aka the table part is just normal table. Maybe need to make it from metal. To make it cool too.

    • @todorow22
      @todorow22 Před 2 lety

      1. It is ridiculous 2. Half of those radiators are probably useless in the sense that the water in the radiators are probably down to ambient temp already, ie doing nothing at that point. 3. CZcamsrs run out of ideas quickly when producing videos daily, so they will build whatever they can think of at this point.

    • @aronseptianto8142
      @aronseptianto8142 Před 2 lety +2

      @@todorow22 can't really please em all i guess
      must've been fun at parties

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid Před 2 lety

      @@tsartomato You can solve all of those problems fairly easily in the design stage, I am excited to see the development of future furniture items.
      That's what I am here for, interior design tips :D

  • @lifecat8
    @lifecat8 Před rokem +1

    I didn't knew that i really want such a desk. I never thought about that. I thought my desk is good and stable - it is - but nothing beats this.
    This is the most beautiful Setup i have ever seen in my entire life AND all in black AND made from Steel. I can't desribe with words how cool this is just from seeing it. The BEST Setup for a Studio IMO. Silent if needed. I really would use this on a daily basis and maybee my macbook's CPU won't hit 103°C again.

  • @justinmcwilliams6759
    @justinmcwilliams6759 Před 2 lety

    My very first liquid cooling radiator was a transmission cooler I cleaned and plumbed for the loop fittings. That setup also had a peltier unit with the cold side on the radiator.

  • @iaimtomissbehave
    @iaimtomissbehave Před 2 lety +250

    This is one of the most unique ideas and executions they have had in a while. Love it!

    • @alexho1126
      @alexho1126 Před 2 lety

      Absolutely! Thankfully they do stuff like that just for the fun. Still not neccarsy, i have a similar setup with 2 rads 360+280, gpu peaking at 58 degrees 😅

  • @TimothyBecker
    @TimothyBecker Před 2 lety +212

    This is actually awesome. Would have loved to see some FLIR Footage of the desk, just to see how overkill all of those radiators actually are. (how cool are the radiators at the end of the loop?)

    • @cor144
      @cor144 Před 2 lety +6

      Assuming sufficient pump capacity to maintain adequate flow of coolant in the loop, then there should be very little delta in temperature between any two points in the loop no matter how many rads you bolt together.

    • @jetfusion1532
      @jetfusion1532 Před 2 lety +7

      Not that overkill because the desk becomes hot. The cat might like it a lot however long session gamers most def. will not. It's pretty much useless as a desk with all the air hole in it. Lay an A4 on the table and write a decent sentence on it

    • @timeTegus
      @timeTegus Před 2 lety +1

      @@jetfusion1532 than its a gaiming only desk

    • @Blex_040
      @Blex_040 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jetfusion1532 You mean writing on... paper? These things out of dead trees? Woah, that's so nostalgic! :D

  • @tibor29
    @tibor29 Před rokem +10

    I love this, I'd actually buy that desk if it were to be sold as a product or DIY kit.

  • @finn_h06
    @finn_h06 Před rokem +1

    This is an actually nice project because its not rushed but well thought out an planed

  • @madeuce190
    @madeuce190 Před 2 lety +261

    LTT: "Even an intel processor is not gonna run hot"
    Meanwhile AMD: "Oh! How the turn tables!"

    • @brettcombs774
      @brettcombs774 Před 2 lety +8

      How the tables have turned*

    • @jo_naash
      @jo_naash Před 2 lety +4

      @@brettcombs774 How the turntables! ..turned...

    • @madeuce190
      @madeuce190 Před 2 lety +34

      @@brettcombs774 you didnt get the joke buddy haha....

    • @brettcombs774
      @brettcombs774 Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah I'm missing something apparently

    • @RamiRouhana
      @RamiRouhana Před 2 lety +6

      @@brettcombs774 Not a fan of "The Office" apparently.

  • @blindogt
    @blindogt Před 2 lety +27

    There was a time, not too long ago, when I didn’t care much for the videos that Alex hosted but I think he’s really grown into the role. This was great!

  • @ShendonZ
    @ShendonZ Před 2 lety +25

    you could have used 280mm radiators so the heat would be dissipated at the back of the desk with low rpm (or passively at idle) and have the area where your keyboard and mouse to be just fine with a holeless design/have a glass at the top, you could also put a little border that separates the "airflow area" from the "work space" so any accidental spill or thing lime that wouldn't be a complete nightmare to clean later.
    i would LOVE to see a rev 2 version of this that can be actually usable in a regular day

    • @bluegiger
      @bluegiger Před rokem +4

      Yeah, I love everything about this but for how I use a desk... it would be almost zero for practicality. Tiny screws and components big enough to get lodged in radiator fins... just nope.

  • @Deraco1
    @Deraco1 Před rokem +1

    Gotta say, that is pretty awesome setup there!! Solid work there Alex!

  • @dapz
    @dapz Před 2 lety +46

    i just woke upi and i read the title as "The Desk Made of Redditors can cool ANYTHING"

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid Před 2 lety +2

      A desk made of redditors is what we would have right now if the Nazis had won the war. Or maybe they just wouldn't be calling everybody a Hitler to conclude every single argument :D

    • @ougintoga7195
      @ougintoga7195 Před 2 lety +2

      Woah you won a prize lmao legit frfr

    • @AffectionateLocomotive
      @AffectionateLocomotive Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ayo! dapz you a part of the PC community?

  • @djsnowpdx
    @djsnowpdx Před 2 lety +200

    I just got a $900 motorized standing desk, and this desk makes me jealous. I’m not a mechanical engineer, though, and I would not trade IRL because I don’t want to maintain custom liquid cooling. Also, my floor would struggle with all that weight.

    • @dm2060
      @dm2060 Před 2 lety +10

      Standing desk is probably the better choice for day to day work though.

    • @procrastinatingnerd
      @procrastinatingnerd Před 2 lety +15

      Your floor would struggle with the weight?

    • @Tresla
      @Tresla Před 2 lety +28

      What is your floor made of? Cardboard?

    • @djsnowpdx
      @djsnowpdx Před 2 lety +19

      My house was built in the year 1900, out of wood, and we suspect there are termites in the crawl space underneath. I’m not pushin’ it, okay?
      😂

    • @flexispotus
      @flexispotus Před 2 lety +6

      @@dm2060 absolutely. have been using standing desk for a year or so, such a life savor.

  • @helmutkrahn9337
    @helmutkrahn9337 Před rokem +4

    "Central Cooling"! Just a thought: With fans blowing down [at least during Winter], it would be a leg warmer. Corollary idea: Wire the fans so air direction is easily switchable; for instance, blowing air up, from time to time, would certainly be desirable to clear the inevitable dust that'll collect in the radiator fins (the glass top wasn't a bad idea in that regard).

  • @BamaChad-W4CHD
    @BamaChad-W4CHD Před rokem +1

    Thats just awesome. I have to go with Linus on the switching of the fans for airflow in summer!

  • @yousuff1
    @yousuff1 Před 2 lety +45

    The quality of this build is definitely a step up from previous projects.

  • @shiori23
    @shiori23 Před 2 lety +100

    ah yes, desk heater

  • @ericbaker350
    @ericbaker350 Před rokem

    I am so glad you did this. I suggested this and you did it. So cool.

  • @MasterDk78
    @MasterDk78 Před rokem

    Oh my GOD, i love this!! you guys NAILED IT!!

  • @rfv618
    @rfv618 Před 2 lety +97

    The reactions at the end were amazing. I always though this was missing from other crazy build videos. Good job Alex and team

    • @StephenOwen
      @StephenOwen Před 2 lety +1

      You're right. Taking the time for reactions and praising the folks involved in making this reality was a good use of time. Cool stuff deserves acknowledgement.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Před 2 lety +308

    I feel like this PC would be great for the winter but awful for the summer, especially if you live in Texas in the case of the latter. But if you have cold hands, it’s more-or-less an absolute win.

    • @DarthBoolean
      @DarthBoolean Před 2 lety +73

      We can't run that during the summer in Texas, it'll crash the power grid.

    • @LoupDuQuebec
      @LoupDuQuebec Před 2 lety +12

      It's ok, they live in Canada, the heating part will be nice during most of the year

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r Před 2 lety +5

      @@LoupDuQuebec bruh its so hot in the summer here in Canada, and it's now summer T_T

    • @Ian-dy6cf
      @Ian-dy6cf Před 2 lety

      @@Jaxv3r I imagine the Quebec in their name indicates they also live in Canada (although they may not consider themselves Canadian;) )

    • @joemarais7683
      @joemarais7683 Před 2 lety +4

      There won't be power to run it in the summer in Texas anyways, so it's perfect.

  • @soratorb
    @soratorb Před rokem

    I love this. I would flip the fans around so they're pulling instead of pushing, and build a shroud connected to, like, a dryer exhaust to vent the hot air outside, and it'd be freakin SWEET

  • @longshot789
    @longshot789 Před rokem

    The Del key diligence during booting. Relentless

  • @nullptrRL
    @nullptrRL Před 2 lety +72

    This has got to be one of the sickest builds I have seen! I want to see a custom rad and desk from FlexiSpot for mass production, even if it's not the whole desk, this would still be a sick build to productize. And the risk of water damage to customer components is minimal since the loop is under the PC, gravity brings water down and away from a desktop PC.

  • @opiniononion919
    @opiniononion919 Před 2 lety +214

    I'm with Linus on the fan part though. Especially after seeing the floating mousepad.
    That being said... I want this thing! Such a shame I don't have a couple thousand bucks to spend on a desk/cooler

    • @beefpickle2450
      @beefpickle2450 Před 2 lety +3

      get AC condensers from cars they are thin and efficient and cheap

    • @ggesdsdsdsd
      @ggesdsdsdsd Před 2 lety +7

      I would put the fans at the back of the desk so they're under the monitor abit if its possible, and also put fan grills on the fans lol

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD Před 2 lety +11

      @@ggesdsdsdsd Fan grills for sure!

    • @annahenrietta9517
      @annahenrietta9517 Před 2 lety +1

      Just get a flexi desk and then an aluminium rad or condenser from a scrapyard. They have the nicest looking ones covered up, and if you offer the guy a beer he's gonna let you have a look, it'll end up costing as much as just one of those rads, and you'll have their entire cooling capacity. Not to mention it's actually of a smaller size and you could even have it vertically mounted at the back of the desk with the fans pointed at you during winter for warm comfy legs or away in summer. 😁

    • @DumKump
      @DumKump Před 2 lety

      same

  • @CRAZOR6
    @CRAZOR6 Před rokem

    Look, im a total newb but the guy in the beginning is definingly my favorite! give this guy full videos!!!!

  • @aurorum999
    @aurorum999 Před rokem

    my vega 64 air cooled peaks at 65c on 4k res with one stock blower fan at max rpm (like 4k rpm jet engine on custom fan curve), so the fact that a 3090 can peak around mid 50's temp nearly totally silent/passive is a huge win. i'd buy this desk.

  • @semperliberi
    @semperliberi Před 2 lety +184

    This is really, really cool. If someone wanted to do all the brain work and put the schematics for a desk using an automotive radiator out there, this would be an amazing weekend project.

    • @debbiebernhardt5406
      @debbiebernhardt5406 Před 2 lety

      Now I want de anza college to do one.

    • @onandonitgoes5957
      @onandonitgoes5957 Před 2 lety

      I've actually been wanting to do something like that with a car radiator but incorporating peltier units in for additional cooling power

    • @qnal96
      @qnal96 Před 2 lety

      @@debbiebernhardt5406 what’s this in reference to?

    • @neojack333
      @neojack333 Před 2 lety +1

      automotive radiators are made of aluminium though. nt a good idea to put this in your copper loop.

    • @debbiebernhardt5406
      @debbiebernhardt5406 Před 2 lety

      @@neojack333 yeah, but it may be good idea to use coolant

  • @yfz450rider39
    @yfz450rider39 Před rokem

    This might be the coolest desk/pc I've ever seen

  • @AdriaanStoopid
    @AdriaanStoopid Před rokem

    Amazing, nothing but love for everyone involved

  • @CollinTheBlind
    @CollinTheBlind Před 2 lety +81

    Yeah I can see why protocase had you say to not buy from them. I imagine they've had more than a few people try to get something made for less than the cost of the raw metal used for it.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce Před 2 lety

      That is quite a bit of tool time making the cuts, think a die setup if you were going to mass produce it on any scale,

  • @aliveandwellinisrael2507
    @aliveandwellinisrael2507 Před 2 lety +109

    The version with the non-PC radiators could be a good piece of kit for the lab, to see what performance you can get out of hardware when the temperature isn't slowing things down

    • @geort45
      @geort45 Před 2 lety +2

      LMAO your username...

    • @debenos
      @debenos Před 2 lety

      Dude this acct!!! 😭😭😭 I love it way more than I should 🤣
      I agree! They certainly botched the job with the car radiator build last time. Would be cool to see something like that again, but near over engineered with care like they did here!

    • @flandrble
      @flandrble Před 2 lety

      @@debenos or use some MORA rads which are bigger than some car radiators :D

  • @mhvdm
    @mhvdm Před rokem

    This should be an actual full out product to be sold. The Radiator Desk. Sick

  • @thewhitedread7572
    @thewhitedread7572 Před rokem

    I know this isnt what I was supposed to take away from the video but I like that Alex is using the front pockets on the work shirt to hold tools

  • @benjoji
    @benjoji Před 2 lety +56

    I think a DIY version of this would be really cool, standard perforated sheet metal are easily available.

    • @KM-rx7hz
      @KM-rx7hz Před 2 lety +1

      Sure, i was thinking the same

  • @helplmchoking
    @helplmchoking Před 2 lety +38

    More of this type of thing please! Partly because Alex is awesome, love the "well, that's a ridiculous idea but now I can't resist finding out if it works" mentality and partly because I love the workshop stuff. You guys have some serious kit in there, and a team with some solid engineering skills (not you, Linus) so some super cool stuff should be well within reason now. Would particularly love some DIY IOT stuff (motorised blinds, sensors, lighting etc. or just general custom electronics outside just PCs)

  • @asnovasdodia
    @asnovasdodia Před 2 lety

    You should auction this stuff or make a museum. THIS IS A PIECE OF ART.

  • @deltira
    @deltira Před rokem

    this is my dream gaming desk now, this with quick connects would be great

  • @minikame2272
    @minikame2272 Před 2 lety +30

    You guys are turning into the Top Gear of computing and I am here for it. Can't wait to see how this escalates. What's next... a wall made of radiators? Dumping the heat via modified air con unit?

    • @donc-m4900
      @donc-m4900 Před 2 lety +5

      Let me show you how I heat my pool in summer. lol

    • @RWoody1995
      @RWoody1995 Před 2 lety +1

      Heh it's funny I remember Linus said exactly this idea of wanting to create "The Top Gear of tech" back when they first moved out of the house studio and into the warehouse studio. Linus you crazy son of a bitch, you did it!

    • @iamnotglenn
      @iamnotglenn Před 2 lety

      They already used a room heating radiator with a threadripper and 2080ti’s and got a janitor closet to like 80 degrees

    • @octia2817
      @octia2817 Před 2 lety

      You've seen this recent WAN show, right? The one where he talks that it is his aspiration to become the top gear of tech? Just seems like a funny coincidence to me ;P

    • @RWoody1995
      @RWoody1995 Před 2 lety

      @@octia2817 he's been saying it since about 2015 then

  • @mjn96
    @mjn96 Před 2 lety +73

    My idea would be to find the quietest fans, put them in the last spot on each radiator so airflow is behind the monitor and not hitting anywhere. You can reverse the fans in winter and summer (summer blow upwards, winter downward to heat your feet)

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther Před 2 lety +17

      There's a fan made by Silverstone which can reverse it's airflow with a simple button press.

    • @mjn96
      @mjn96 Před 2 lety

      @@CarbonPanther I don’t think efficiency would be great...

  • @pe4958
    @pe4958 Před rokem

    Linus is definitely rocking the dad bod and the lazy boss level of commitment to the project in this

  • @GtsAntoni1
    @GtsAntoni1 Před rokem

    More like this please. It's glorious.

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Před 2 lety +491

    I was woundering why don't GPUs have the same sort of universal 3rd party cooler options as a CPU. It would be nice to have a self contained water coolers on a GPU.
    Now that people are starting to mount their GPUs at 90 degrees to normal. Now seems like as good of a time than ever to give it a shot.

    • @bosnoek643
      @bosnoek643 Před 2 lety +10

      Iron plz take my children

    • @Smoke_Weed_Everyday_
      @Smoke_Weed_Everyday_ Před 2 lety +54

      Because in many of them the partners manufacture boards with altered designs, so you would need a heatsink that matches each design. I've seen a few of them pair up with EK to make custom loop heatsinks for a few gpus with well equipped VRMs and other parts, but each has a unique heatsink.

    • @omfgblondie
      @omfgblondie Před 2 lety +14

      Because GPU's come in various different sizes whereas CPU's only come in a few.

    • @Thefreakyfreek
      @Thefreakyfreek Před 2 lety +9

      @@omfgblondie most of them also cool the vrm and memory and that's just all over the place

    • @user-il8gt2ev9d
      @user-il8gt2ev9d Před 2 lety +11

      They kind of do, the hole spacing for the main mount around the die doesn’t change much hence why things like the nzxt g10 and g12 have been around allowing you to use standard asetek cpu clc design coolers on the GPU die. The main issue is with cooling everything else other then the die. Memory and vrm on the front and sometimes on the back mean there’s no one size fits most full cover blocks and a lot of people probably don’t want use thermal adhesive to manually glue heat sinks to chips.

  • @TheLaptopLagger
    @TheLaptopLagger Před 2 lety +44

    I strongly disagree with Alex's point of "faster fans cooler hands"
    As anyone who's ever been near a server will attest
    Fast moving heated air is still definitely warm

    • @Xoron
      @Xoron Před 2 lety +2

      The goal is to move that much air so the exhaust temperature drops.

    • @bryanminugh9680
      @bryanminugh9680 Před rokem

      perspiration loves airflow

  • @jampskan5690
    @jampskan5690 Před rokem

    Favorite LTT build all year.

  • @werm88
    @werm88 Před rokem

    I love it. Need something like this for the Texas year

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 Před 2 lety +3

    4:24 Omg
    Young Alex looks so much different, holy shit

  • @procrastinatingnerd
    @procrastinatingnerd Před 2 lety +114

    The only flaw I see with this is having all the holes in the surface of the desk. I imagine losing so many little things in those holes over time and they would be a huge pain to get out. Not to mention if your someone who likes to eat at your computer.

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 Před 2 lety +7

      Eh, vacuum it.

    • @benjoji
      @benjoji Před 2 lety +7

      I think the solution to this would be to sandwich a filter layer/screen between the table top and rads

    • @urgay1992
      @urgay1992 Před 2 lety +22

      @@benjoji Also a grille below so you won't risk getting your fingers (or other body parts) chopped off by a 3000 rpm fan.

    • @Crimsomreaf5555
      @Crimsomreaf5555 Před 2 lety

      Yup I'm that one who eats at my desk

    • @Crimsomreaf5555
      @Crimsomreaf5555 Před 2 lety

      @@urgay1992 don't think a plastic dull fan would do much damage.

  • @RTFMprick
    @RTFMprick Před rokem

    This desk is practical in the way it will keep your lunch warm

  • @kinoromantic
    @kinoromantic Před rokem

    Builds keep getting better and better! What's next? Water cooled gaming chair? )

  • @mrfilipelaureanoaguiar
    @mrfilipelaureanoaguiar Před 2 lety +26

    That is meant for a test bench. put input output fittings on the table linked under and that's it, all tests would become more reliable because it always cooled the same way, without bottleneck and be able to OC tests too and quick disconnect.

    • @Ghfvhvfg
      @Ghfvhvfg Před 2 lety +5

      How overkill but great ideas,it wouldn’t look weird

    • @ryanq.4799
      @ryanq.4799 Před 2 lety +1

      I second this, would make for a very level playing field for hardware

  • @TisBoiGoTSkiLLz
    @TisBoiGoTSkiLLz Před 2 lety +37

    This.. is genius and the desk looks legitimately very nice.

  • @Cyzer01
    @Cyzer01 Před rokem

    Wow! That worked out really well!

  • @ugapeyton
    @ugapeyton Před rokem +1

    This is actually so cool, and the best thing is, you could show me this and I'd think it was a full blown commercial product. Someone should get on this lmao

  • @webluke
    @webluke Před 2 lety +16

    I would like to see cutouts of the desk for 1-2 quad radiators in the back so you could keep the wood surface in the front but have the radiators back away from the user blowing hot air up the back of the monitor or something like that.

  • @pottercraftero
    @pottercraftero Před 2 lety +23

    I love the fact that we have changed the recurring old joke of cooling an AMD processor to Intel. Now both of them are wonderful ovens.

    • @IIIXAxthenXIII
      @IIIXAxthenXIII Před 2 lety +4

      Well, the joke *was originally* Intel before the FX 8000 lines of AMD cpu's.
      Intel was originally very hot, and AMD was the cooler of the two. Back when AMD held the crown and Intel was trying to catch up. That was before the days of hyperthreading for Intel, though.

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 Před 2 lety

      @@IIIXAxthenXIII p4 HT ran got and the Pentium EEEE 990FX ran incredibly hot especially with 32gb of FBDIMM RAM

  • @Sp4wnK3lla
    @Sp4wnK3lla Před rokem +1

    The fact that this can be used as a heater in the winter and an AC in the summer, this idea can definitely become reality.

  • @light2983
    @light2983 Před rokem

    So i'm basically wanting to buy this hahaha what a awesome idea.
    Right got a plan now haha!

  • @Gameoflegendstv
    @Gameoflegendstv Před 2 lety +28

    This is absolutely amazing! I can actually see a lot of potential in something like this. especially if the process was made more efficient and the price dropped a bit, this could actually make it's spot in a niche market

  • @CarlosMabalot
    @CarlosMabalot Před 2 lety +29

    I would expand the cooling table and make it an actual air hockey table.

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman2338 Před rokem

    That's awesome! I want one! I love the the fan idea, however I would combine your ideas together, having a switching network (I build everything) that can reverse the speed of the fans and their direction. It still is controlled by the temp control but you can set the lowest speed or have static but limited to a speed that is the lowest safe level but you can turn it up or down at your will. Meaning have your fan already on before your start doing what your going to be running. A simer method could also be designed just for the idea however. Which would work to push air up or down so that you can select where the heat goes.

  • @northcentralindianawx

    That's nice! Maybe move the fans to the BACK and blow down. But sick looking desk! No radiators in your build and any new PC you build the desk is always upto date with and setup you run. That's sick!

  • @Fancyweasel621
    @Fancyweasel621 Před 2 lety +27

    This is by far one of my favorite videos I've seen from you guys so far! Being a 3D modeling and designing dork I appreciate all of this so much! I want to do custom stuff like this sometime(: