Skoda Superb PHEV V Peugeot 508 PHEV Twin test with Nobby on Cars
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- This week Bob takes on Nobby in a twin test to see which car they would actually buy. The Skoda Superb PHEV versus the Peugeot 508 PHEV in a test that sees the two lads drive from Dublin to Wicklow and back again.
There is an error in the film, BIK exemption only applies to full BEVs and not PHEVs.
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Thanks for having me Bob - good fun!
No bother, looking forward to the next test!
I mentioned to Bob on a livestream a few weeks ago about doing one with you Nobby.
dazza nice one Dazza - Bob has always been very helpful to me as a newcomer to it all, hopefully he said nice things back 🤣
Bob and Nobby, your names, are you both basically Roberts?
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Well done lads, should do more of these vids, works well 👍
I could see you two on TV. Love the banter and chemistry.
No need for tv or RTÉ . Stay on the web Bob it is a better production and what the people want 😂
Brilliant vid, hope there is more twin tests like these to come👍👍👍
What a pleasant and interesting to watch (and rewatch!) production!! Admire your filming crew as well 😂👏😊
That was class. Great collab lads!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Jonny!
Great review guys
Great job, guys!
Great video, would love to see more like this.
Two of my favorite CZcamsrs/car enthusiasts collaborating on a video about two of my favorite car brands. Can the world get any better? Yes, Skoda and Peugeot could be available in the U. S. I can dream can’t I?
Bought a 1.5 150 ŠKODA this week. I don’t think real world Ireland is even nearly ready for electric other than as a hobby/luxury (other than the Zoe as a city car replacement). Great to see the different reviewing style in the “behind the wheel” segments. Loving both yer channels lately. Room for both. Keep it up!
Thanks Stuart, you bought the right car!
Really enjoyed this joint review. You guys should definitely do another. One point I'd make though, when you mentioned you can get a standard superb for a lot cheaper. This is a basic Superb, with underpowered engine, manual transmission, lower spec interior, lower spec infotainment. If you are happy with the basic spec that is fine. But really should compare the price of these to an equivalent spec'd and powered Superb with DSG. When you do that the price difference is very small.
Hey Bob, loving the reviews, and Nobby also...well done..by the way I thought the 0% BIK only applies to fully electric cars?
Nice to see Sir Bob in Wicklow/ Dublin Mountainz.
Love that road from Killakee up to the featherbeds and the acute right hand turn down to Glenesmole. I used to commute that road for 15 years before the M50/M11 and loved throwing the car around those bends. Best driving road in Ireland at speed with a good handling car. Entertaining review with the two lads really worked well. Just proves PHEVs don't work that well for the majority of users, who would have been better off either going full BEV or just get an efficient diesel. Neither one thing nor the other. If you can commute to work on PHEV range, happy days, but flip having to plug-in every single day or even twice a day is a total pain in the neck. It rains in Ireland, handling wet charger cables is a PITA. A decent BEV only needs to be charged once or twice a week.
Had to run Airport jobs up Curtelstown, Glencree and accross to Killakee down to Glencullen. The cars were 3.0 TD E class . Deadly. The M50, Rathfarnham Leppardstown wasn’t quiet the same.
@@bdeithrick Yip, I crossed that way every morning and every evening for 15 years. Coming from the office late at night had to avoid the odd joyrider hijackers up there, looking for a ride home after they set their quarry alight. They had all manner of what to the untuned eye looked like plausible reasons to stop folks pretending to be in distress, even bodies strewn across the road, as if knocked down. I nearly flattened a few of the gobshites as I drove through at speed. Not falling for that. No mobile signals up there even for 088s back in those days, but usually called the boys in blue when got into range again at Glencree, just to let them know there's a fake accident looking for a lift home at the end of the featherbeds. The 3.0 TD could really take those bends on the top well. The ones you could see around.
@14:04 noby nailed it. Great review as always.
Guys a bit more research needed.
BIK exemptions of €50k only applies to full electric and not PHEV. As the bik is based on list price these will be not an economical choice as a company car.
These are designed to be charged each night at home for about €1.
This gives you 200km/week for €5.
You might save €1000/year in fuel but with the list prices that high you will never see the money back.
More of this please.
I'm up to 3:50 and I TOTALLY agree about PHEV blocking full electric cars. Simply needs more chargers.
I think that you are missing the point with a PHEV a bit here.
TL:DR: If your driving pattern is based on shorter daily drives and you can recharge the car over night - a PHEV can be quite economical and environmentally friendly and still have the "instant" long range of a petrol car.
They are not supposed to be electric cars, they are not supposed to rely on public charge points as you drive for longer distances (both from a cost perspective and a charging time perspective). Neither are they supposed to be driven on electric mode until the battery is flat and then go to petrol mode, then you are negating the hybrid side of the vehicle. They are not the best choice for all different driving needs, but for some they are excellent (from my point of view).
I have driven a BEV before (KIA e-Niro) and are now driving a PHEV instead (Skoda Superb iV). That type of hybrid car suits my needs better than the pure electric one did (and also better than a "pure" hybrid with no recharging from the grid). First, my daily driving is mostly within the town I live, to and from work, visiting my friends and relatives and so on. That means that my daily driving is almost always done in electric mode. Second, I have the possibility to recharge my car over night at my parking spot, I wake up to a fully charged car with 40-50 km of pure electric range.That's enough to keep my in pure electric mode for almost all my driving needs. For longer drives, when I know that I'm going to exceed the electric range, I switch to hybrid mode from the start. Then the car can utilise the battery to lower the petrol consumption for the entire journey, and isn't relying on petrol alone (but still having the possibility to "recharge" at a petrol station in a couple of minutes).
In the Skoda, the car can actually plan when to use electric power by using the built in navigation system. I enter my destination in the navigation system, put it in hybrid mode, set it to auto to use all battery power for the journey (or manually choose how much energy I want to have left in the battery on arrival) then the car will manage the battery and petrol power sources to get the lowest consumption over all (based on terrain topography, speed limits and so on). If I put it on auto the battery will be empty on arrival, thus lowering the petrol consumption as much as possible. If I don't have the possibility to recharge the battery at my destination I'm not going to use the auto-mode, but rather put the manual limit for battery usage at about 50%. By doing that the car will use the first 50% on the first trip and you can use the remaining 50% for the return trip. For my longer journeys (>200 km) I'm averaging about 0.45-0.50 liters/10 km, which is still good numbers for a petrol car that weighs around 1700 kg. It is never economical to use the manual setting to recharge the battery from a low charging state with petrol power, while driving. That will cost more than actually using the battery until empty and recharge from the grid. The car will off course still recharge during travel by using the momentum of the car while braking, but avoid actually charging directly from the petrol engine.
I've used around 0.20-0.25 liters petrol per 10 km (yes, I'm Swedish, we use liters/10 km - you do the maths for mpg... ;) ) and about 1.3 kWh of electric power per 10 km as an average for the last 2600 km driven. That's off course based on driving most of my journeys purely electric and recharging at night.
Then, why not a BEV? Well, I'm not interested in planning my longer travels based on when and where to recharge the battery. I've tried it and it made business travel more cumbersome than I like (you can call me lazy if you want). I'd like to switch back to BEV eventually but I want to wait for battery capacity and range to increase before buying a BEV again. The models that have decent range are way to pricey still.
Ok, if I'm not interested in planning of charging etc, than why not a diesel or petrol car? Well, I can lower my running costs significantly while driving on battery, most of my driving is still purely electric which is way cheaper (especially since I have the possibility to charge at home) and renders less pollution. Also, in Sweden we get a tax deduction and a bonus for low emission vehicles. Since my car i leased through my company, the running costs is where i can save money on my car ownership, and that means that a PHEV is hitting the sweet spot for me. That doesn't mean that it is the right choice for all.
I agree, these PHEV cars are meant to be used the way you describe it! I just ordered the 508SW phev for exactly the same reasons. Glad to hear about your real-life low petrol consumption number.
I liked the natural conversational style of this video. It's a shame you could not have driven and each others cars but I guess that is due to the current climate
Great review......you put a human touch to your reviews rather than just listing what the car can do
The dual format works well. Varying opinions make for a more informative review.
Peugeot 508 the sportive looking with super interior ! a car that takes you into the future already !
That looked fun. I probably wouldn't ever charge a PHEV from a public chargepoint. I think they're just meant to be plugged in at home everyday overnight. For those with a 50 km commute, you're in electric most of the time but have the extra range for long trips along with quick fill ups.
Thank you for this video Bob. I would not buy either but that doesn’t matter because I just enjoy your ☘️ ‘ness! Keep up the great open honest reviews. It’s a shame we don’t see more people from Ireland as presenters on mainstream media UK channels BBC ITV etc.
Well done guys, now I know I’ll never get myself trapped into buying electric or plug in hybrid cars
Great collaboration lads.....surely rte or virgin media could be tempted in to starting a real world motoring show? I know id watch you 2 lads with this sort of formula on tv
Oh Bob, Bob, Bob, charging point, RTFM! 🤣🤣🤣
great review
Thank you!
Skoda started as a bike company too 😂🚲
Hi Bob, where did you find the option for the faster 7.4kW charger for the Superb iV? Thanks
Bob and Nobby, another great collaboration. I like both of these cars but the charge times make them totally impractical for high milage drivers.
Never understood why people need to change the cabin temp constantly…… these cars have amazing climate controls, you literally set the temp you want and it’s self managed……..
I think I'd have a diesel peugeot. Just a little more interesting to behold and drive, especially coming from an old mondeo
That Peugeot sounded good under acceleration at 16.00! Wonder if that is artificial or real noise? 😀 Having had so many VAG products, notwithstanding the PHEV aspect I'd take the Peugeot. VAG products are brilliant but they leave me cold as an enthusiast and the Peugeot feels like an event despite a few flaws! 🙂
Love Skoda, Love Bob
Great video lads! Continue saying Peugeot the Irish way but them I'm Scottish and grew up saying it the same way you do.
Thanks! Will do!
I don’t always get the chance to charge the batteries. Interested to know how the car performs if you just run it on petrol - would it be similar to the 1,5 tsi from a power an economy standpoint?
Best colours on the 508 are the Red, cumulus Grey and Pearlescent White
Clash of the titans! Bob V Nobby as opposed to Skoda V Peugeot.
"Purr jo" for sure, for sure.
Doubt a French person would agree with either that, or the usual Irish version ! There’s just no “R” sound in there - not even a “petit peu” ! And it’s a soft J, so, not “Joe”, but more “zhoe” !
What happens if you don’t charge the Peugeot? Will it still produce electric power through kenetic energy?
I happen to drive a peugeot 508 phev. Although it's far from perfect, I tend to disagree with the most criticized points by reviewers. I must have a strange sitting position, cause for me the size and position and of the steering wheel feel actually much better and more logic than a "normal" one where you have look through the steering wheel. The other point that about every reviewer criticizes is the heating/cooling operation. True, it takes exactly one extra push, but be honest, how often do you change it? I set my preferred temperature, put it on automatic and than no longer touch it for weeks or even months. However the temperature setting is a bit of annoyance to me for an other reason. Peugeot claims the car has a 10" screen, but the temperature always stays on the screen in a band on both the left and right side, leaving an actual usable screen size that's way smaller.
About the USB port. It's indeed in a awkward place, but you can actually guide the cable to the storage space in the center console where it's much more accessible and neatly hidden when not used.
The upgrade of the charger is actually only €300 in my country, that was a no-brainer for me.
What colour did you get? Beautiful car but very sensitive to colour choice. The one in Bob's review was definitely the wrong colour.
@@MrTipperX Amazonite grey. Doubtes between that and celebs blue. White is also nice.
Pieter Hofman I totally agree with you. I just ordered 508 SW GT, but in Blue HDI and also Amazonite grey. Looks wonderfully. And I also love the interior and seating position. It’s perfect for me. Much better than in Skoda or VW, which I was using last 20 years.
Can you upgrade the charging on the most basic trim?
Now find some other lad down the pub and start Irish Top Gear! Jokes a side, nice to see you work together, good crack too.
I just wanted to pick you up on something that was mentioned a couple of times, namely, that the Skoda Superb has a bigger boot - actually it doesn't! The non-PHEV version does, but the iV officially has 485L with the seats up. In contrast, the 508 has 487L with the seats up. This is a where the Peugeot's design is better thought out as they store their batteries under the seat, and therefore don't lose any boot space, whereas Skoda really shoots holes in it's USP, namely having a large boot, by eating into that space for the battery storage. If it was a non-PHEV - no brainer in terms of boot space in both the estate version and the hatch. Peugeot's designers have played a blinder by not using up any valuable real-estate within the car for their battery storage. Personally, I've had a 308SW and also have a 5008, both with small steering wheels. I've done 40,000 miles (combined) in both cars in 2 years and the smaller steering wheel is just not an issue in reality. if you can't see the instrument binnacle, either adjust the seat (upwards) or move the wheel - either way, it's just not an issue. I enjoyed the banter between the both of you - thanks for the vid 👍🏻
Totally agree with bob,had a 3008 for 3 years,lovely car drive etc but as he says it wore off on me and just wanted simple change temp with a knobs,also found the electrics weren't the best,near end time the faults that kept coming up especially if it rained heavy were getting annoying to say least, rear camera would go all fuzzy, warnings about safety brake, electric handbrake would pop up,in numerous times to dealer,software updates etc, when one mechanics told me problem is in heaven rain hitting sensor on windscreen and hitting radar at same time confused the EU, so pull in turn off engine,wait 30 seconds and it will reset, not the most professional solution from car maker as waiting on software from peu3be developed to fix it
Enjoyed that, the cars don't matter 😂
Problem with the (non phev) Superb is that the Octavia is big enough and good enough.
Bob, I think you were quoting prices for the Skoda before the grant is applied while Nobby was quoting the price after the grant so I think the comparisons given were flawed? Consumers only care about what it costs after grant as thats what it costs them. Before grant prices dont matter but at least compare apples to apples?
I think you said you had the Style version so thats €44270 after grant which is only €2265 more than the 2.0Tdi variant(150hp) but the PHEV is 218hp and will be alot more frugal, if the PHEV range suits your needs, of course.
I think you also compared the Peugeot Allure hybrid (€39k) against the Active variant (€31k) but they are hardly comparable... 225hp vs 130hp! The comparison should be the Allure 2.0Tdi (180hp) which is €38100... basically the same price!
And as others have said, the BIK doesnt apply to PHEV's at all so that part of your review is wrong.
It would be good to have seen more about the real world EV range of both cars on, say, motorway and "around town".
40-50km is 1l of petrol? What kind of car does that to be precise?
Timeless valuable information shared in just a chat for free, worth more than 20grand savings!
Got the 150 diesel superb sportline looked at the hybrid but I can buy a lot of diesel with what I saved great video btw
Nice one!
Hi Bob , great channel , such a pity RTÉ doesn’t pick yee guys up , would make a great show. Re the bik relief on hybrids , was this a slip or have they really given the 50k discount to hybrids also , website says no:
www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/benefit-in-kind-for-employers/private-use-of-company-cars/exemptions.aspx
What means Fev?
How interesting, in Australia the Skoda is not selling well. I love my Skoda, not too impressed with the dealer support though. Thanks Bob, great video.
Skoda is a workers car it isnt amazing it is just working like clocks
@@nemos9856 they don’t work like clocks in Australia. My Skoda with 110000 klm is now in for a complete engine rebuild. And Skoda Australia have refused to help.
@@murrieteacher lol u got the new ones. I have mk1 octavia 20yo 280 000km never had problem with engine my friend has taxi one 1 milion km and no engine problem XD
@@nemos9856 I have that ability to get the wrong one in a lot of things. At least I got a partner that has never failed in 50 years. I purchased the Skoda because of all the reviews in Europe and while in Europe I rode in many Skoda taxis. They really are very good cars, unfortunately Skoda Australia will fight you for any claim. Bugger (Australian term for frustrated).
Buy the yeti for €15k. 1.2 tsi all the power you need for Ireland. No plugs or apps. Won’t be banned till your selling it. Practical and money over for petrol and holidays and rent a car.
That Peugeot cabin looks awful. No practicality at all
I have just seen a battery replacement technology from Nio in China that replaces a nearly empty battery to a full battery in 3 minutes at very low cost. I think this could be the answer but only Nio do this at present.
its too expensive, and they have not addressed the issue of what happens if you roll up at battery swap and there are none available to swap?
I call it a Peugeot rather than a Pyoujjo
I have got 508 First Edition 180 BlueHDi for a year, still amazed with exteriour and interiour, would not agree with Bob on disadvantages in the cabin. Agree that PHEV cars are too expensive, less consumption can not justify car price, diesel are still more punchy, more practical. In few years I would expect that the prices will go down and range will go up but currently makes no sense in buying PHEv of any brand. Small EV cars for city driving yes.
I can’t believe these new cars how late in this game! My 5y old Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has fast charging and after 175k miles still gives 30 miles/ charge!
Fast charging is bad for batteries, I get why they don’t want to put it on a plug in. They can charge at 7kW for a full charge in 2 hours. That’s good enough.
dufonrafal maybe yes, and also they charge the double as you would pay on yours.
But also it’s cool to have an option so you save some petrol and being more green! This only applies on longer journey like more than 100mile.
Anybody who is hesitating to buy one of these vehicles I would advise them first have a look at the Mitsubishi Outlanders as they are superior to these.
I bought one 5 month ago with 174k miles and it’s still holds 28miles worthy electric range, yes and even on motorways with 60-70miles/hour!
Or just buy the full ev niro and 10k less. Compromised on size I get it but its still 10k less none the less
Parallel hybrids. WHY???
Iam from Scotland .we say, the same as you do...
The interior on the superb hasn't been upgraded unlike the Octavia.
New Octavia hasn’t officially launched yet. It will have the new Golf/Leon/Scala interior eventually. Everything will unfortunately!
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Both cars are a waste of time think I will wait for the all electric skoda next year great video guys just think both car companies are dabbling with electrics with poor electric range a wait of money 😳 always paying a premium to own part electric or full electric while it’s in its infancy
Do you think any other car company doing any better? Like Tesla with its self proclaimed 600km range and in real life only 400km. Everybody starts from the scratch, Tesla is the only one with some experience and a headstart.
And we still don't know if full electric drive is really for the future, there are so many issues with it.
What I've heard the Germans and south Koreans working on Hydrogen cars, what many experts says that this kind of mobility is for the future and not full electric, the range is doubled or tripled and last longer.
That's why many car manufacturers waiting what will now happen.
Raven McClaw I agree mate think Honda are working on hydrogen too but think it’s expensive to produce time will tell
@@ravenmcclaw1725 watch this. It's old but just a relevant today.
Just like the tobacco industry, the oil industry has given you uncertainty and doubt. czcams.com/video/BaZSeuIWqEk/video.html
The slow and limited charging is a big drawback. Unless charging at home or work you’re at nothing
08:10 Dear God that is hideous. It like two dash boards from two completely different cars from two completely different companies mated together. But the 508 exterior is much nicer than the Skoda.
Peugeot! 😍
Purrgheo
oceanfroggie No !! But you’re nearly there ! Just No “r” sound !
@@Mancozeb100 Well its better that Pudget, or Renalt. :)
oceanfroggie 😂
oceanfroggie Or PewJoe as us Irish have been saying since Mr PewJoe was a little garçon !! ( Peu Garçon ! )
Peugeot, spend more tine broken down on the road than any Skoda
What nonsense. Peugeot have topped the 2019 jd power reliability survey
A quick gander on the Peugeot configurator and the UK price on a 508 GT is about the same as a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range plus. without the 0-60 times or cheap running costs or low maintenance costs or high resale values. What on Earth is the point of either of these unless you rent them for a crazy discount and give them back when it's no longer your problem. I did enjoy the review though by the way.
Both will be outsold by SUVs
Shame that, most SUV's are overpriced and not near as good
VW’ 1.4 hybrids are awefull and the peugot is French made so that’s not going to be better. Buy a Toyota Camry instead, Toyota know what they are doing and have long experience with hybrids. We have vw passats 1.4 hybrid at work and the tow trucks comes out once a week to start or tow them away. If I understood it correctly then if you only drive short distances using only the electric motor then the 12 v battery doesn’t get charged and when it’s out of juice then the car won’t start at all. You have a fully charged battery for the electric motor but won’t be able to drive a meter!
My Superb iV is mostly driven on battery alone and I have had it for about six months now, just over 6000 km driven, and never experienced that problem. I'm currently doing an excess of 2000 km between petrol fill-ups, i.e. I drive for weeks on nothing but battery. So, my experience is that this isn't a problem, at least not for my car. However, I do not know if the 12V battery is charged together with the main battery.
@@MiniHD how is your experience so far? i am looking at the Superb IV but i want it to be reliable. :D
@@metoo3773 my experience so far is good!! I’ve had the car for ten months now, and haven’t had any significant issues at all. My daily driving is almost exclusively done on battery and that is working extremely well. Longer drives (up to 700 km) in hybrid mode with use of the navigator to moderate the battery usage is working really well and gives me about 0,5 litres of petrol used for every 10 km. Long term fuel economy sits around 0,35-0,4 litres per 10 km, but that is off course due to me being able to do my daily commute on battery power.
Electric range is decent, around town in the summer I can get about 50 km of range, in the winter I get about 40 km.
The car feels very smooth in the drive train, it’s comfortable and driving position is really good. Lots of room for passengers and luggage as well.
I do not regret my choice at all! 😊
@@MiniHD Nice!! Thank you for the in debth answer.
@@MiniHD And could you also tell me the small flaws you had? Im actually mainly worried about the dsg dual clutch transmission reliability. Is it smooth? During low speeds for example. I never owned a dual clutch transmission so idk what to expect.
ahm its not controversial, its just a stand out from the boring competition
What the hell, at 13min you say 1.5 this superb is 36k, Mt god in 2023 its now 49k, should rename trim Inflation rip off
The Peugeot is very French looking in the cabin...I don't like it...not one tiny little bit!! Bleugh!!!
Don't hold back there!
It needs to be said.. 🙂
Peugeot interior is just pure revolting, PHEV, Hybrids and EVs are not for our world as it stands. Diesels are far superior in every way, sound, power, efficiency and the fact that its manual is so good. I'll never drive an electric car and enjoy it. The mk2 superb has a far superior interior than all new cars.
Jesus, you’re seriously stuck in the past. Not one for progress and innovation I guess?
I vote for hydrogen fuel cell technology. But, if looks could kill, Peugeot it is.
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The fact that you couldn't find the charging port on the Skoda shows why you don't understand the point of PHEVs. You haven't even charged it
It was fully charged when I picked it up about 20 minutes before we filmed it 🙄
Skoda - brilliant. Peugeot - stupid steering wheel.
Bike cost same as car lol
Wowowowow expensive!!!!!!
Puh-zjo!
there is a Qi wireless charger in the phonebox of all Superb
I think it's an option though
Wouldn't care if the 508 breaks every 50 mile and is made from mechano, I'd still take it over the taxi (Skoda). The 508 is beautiful while the taxi is stinkin looking. I'm shallow, I know but looks are important...
I think PHEV designs are a passing phase. Personally I don't like the concept, you still have a combustion engine, petrol tank and transmission to maintain; you also have a motor and battery pack - these don't need maintenance, but add weight. So you end up with an inefficient EV, which then switches over to being an inefficient combustion car. The charging limit at 3kW is an indication that the car is intended to only be charged overnight at home- so if you can't do that, you can't use the electric only range. If you want to drive electric, get an electric car - BMW i3, Tesla Model 3 SR+, Kia Soul - all excellent cars.
Bro the pugeot interier is so bad it looks awful
I prefer the peugeot. Purely because its doesn't conform to the standard. For me personally I'm digging that the interior is different and interesting. And it looks better inside than the skoda. Bob comes across like a die hard fan of boring looking cars
€47.000 for a peugeot? lmao
Looks like you don't know how the automotive industry works
I think VW Arteon is a much better comparison, who the hell would pay that much just to drive a skoda. If you're spending that much money it better be special 😆😅 # no-brainer
heritage and history, two things about Skoda you clearly know nothing about!
Doctor Doctor You clearly don't know the hierarchy of the VW group:
Porshe - High end/prestigious
Audi - High end
VW -premium
Seat - medium
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Skoda - low end/medium
Skoda were quite poor cars before they belonged to the VW.
Eastern European cars in general had poor reputation
Brands like:
Lada
Trabant
DACIA
SKODA
Zastava
Some of them now are even defunct.
And the ones that did survive such as Skoda and Dacia serve as budget bottom of the barrel brands for larger manufacturer groups.
Now Skoda is not as bad in this regard as Dacia.
But surely completely incomparable with a large icon such as Peugeot with legendary models such as the 205 and 504 and credited as the first manufacturer in the early 1900's to produce electric cars.
Skoda is budget brand, and Peugeot has transitioned into a 'high end' brand on the level of Mazda, Lancia and VW. A little below the premium brands such as the German Big three.
Please inform yourself prior to posting empty facts. And mere opinions.
Skoda will always be known as the good value for money car. And is purposely positioned that way by it's parent company.
Whereas Peugeot always has been an up-market brand and is positioned as such by it's parent company:
PSA Group:
DS automobiles - premium
Peugeot - High end
Citroën - medium/high end
Opel - medium
#getinformed
Absolutely hate what Peugeot are doing with their interiors
Disagree. Peugeot i-Cockpit is perfect and I’m telling it as Skoda/VW user for 20 years. Transmission, seats, steering, suspension, moose test... everything is better in Peugeot. And in SW version you get bigger boot in reality. Not on paper.
This charging nonsense is pathetic, and then you carry the additional equipment round without any fast charging.
Peugeot 10x lepse izgleda od tog pasata golfa,pardon skode haha
A to sto je vama kontraverzan je samo vas problem,jer svi idu u korak sa svetom,samo vi gledate da vozite kocije,a da je u pitanju mercedes sa onim silnim tabletima uzasnim jeftinim,onda ne smeta,to je vrh odlicno,koliko li ste samo placeni da hvalite nemacka vozila,jadno i strasno,ne mozete da se pomirite sa time,da je Peugeot poceo ozbiljno da pisa po konkurenciji,sa svojim licnim dizajnom,kud god da pogledas,audi vw skoda svi licne jedni na druge,bmw svaki model isti sa istim dosadnim grilom,pa su ga povecali zbog kineskog trzista,mercedes ajde jedini ima svoj neki pravac,i dizajn.
Peugeot je odlicna brend,nazalost kvari ga kao takvima,jer nema nemacki znak na haubi.
Peugeot electrics ?? .. needs to prove itself for reliability..
The Skoda is totally outdated, the Peugeot is the future with this nice design...
The 508 color you choose is so ugly
Save your money, get the bus or buy a scooter. With what you save, go on a het to your holiday.