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@@viensolisNo, Rome is apostate as it teaches a FALSE gospel of works salvation, falsely teaches that Christ’s death doesn’t fully save and it perverts the doctrine of the Trinity by elevating Mary as some sort of fourth person of the Godhead by elevating her above Jesus.
No it was Joseph who built it. Why does Jesus get the credit for it merely for existing. I mean jopseph got his ass up and out of bed traveled all the way across a friggin desert on the back of an ass. Showed up asked them if he could build a staircase, stayed for half a year, made it with magic wood from another realm. Then built an impossible looking staircase without any nails, screws or glue. With a perfect double helix shape perfectly flawless. And does it for free and Jesus gets the credit. What the fudge
@@viensolis As Catholics...we accept all of the councils. Try reading the actual document's from the council of Vatican ll....they are beautifully written. It's never advisable to jump on someone else's train...or to parrot their talking points. Trust your own research...so that you don't look so silly layer on when you wake-up and realize that you have been lead down someone else's rabbit hole! May God bless you and may He lead you to His truth..in the Catholic Church! (Try listening to "Reason and Theology " He is an ex-radical traditionalist) Which is different then being a traditional Catholic! One will lead you to schism and outside of our Lord's Church...and the other won't!
@@yungtre6118 Where do you think he got this "miraculous wood" or the "miraculous know how"or the "miraculous ability" to complete these stairs so quickly or where do you suppose the "miraculous money" came from.... All of this came from someone who was and is "MIRACULOUS"
3 times for me and as a retired carpenter it literally blows my mind to think it was built when it was without plans , the mystery of the species of wood , and a long list of other elements I wish I could walk up and down it 😊 oh well in my dreams
@@RyanCasey007 thank you for asking. I am 90% there with my housing dilemma and Praise Him and through the prayers of St Joseph it will all be completed.
Thou that not worship false idols. I am a jealous God, I share my glory with no one. No one comes to My Father except through me. Please please discover the truth.
I have heard about this years ago and recently visited and spent an hour just gazing at it. I did not know about the fire. Another Miraculous fact. Thank you.
As a Security Officer for the inn, one morning at 3:00am the front desk clerk sent me to the chapel on account that people were calling in that a light was on up in the steeple at the top of the staircase. All the lights in the chapel were always off at that time of the night. As I entered the chapel there was a bright light at the top. I climbed the stairs and my steps felt like I was walking on a sheet of paneling. I was a bit afraid as I went up. I just whispered the rosary as I went. At the top of the stairs there was another level if small wooden steps to the steeple. I went up and found two old lamps on timers that were set incorrectly. For the rest of my life I will never forget the mixed emotions that I had that morning. "JESUS I TRUST IN YOU!"
I actually watched this out of interest as I haven't been in actual been in school in a few decades. But I am always happy to learn of new things and this was amazing to learn of. Thank you for your hard work for whatever reason you put this video up.
I understood when my wife and I visited the site that the carpenter also used tubs of water. The wood has not been identified. It is a clear case of documented divine assistance.
There was a master builder of staircases around that time. He built a larger spiral staicase with a single piece of mahogony for the bannister in the Earreckson House on Kent Island, MD. It has since been demolished. I dearly hope the bannister was saved.
Good job young man now do a report on Saint Joseph! It will be well worth your while. Fr. Donald Calloway wrote a good book about Saint Joseph and is promoting him now!
I enjoyed visiting the Loretto chapel and the staircase. It is an amazing feat of architecture. There are some people out there who refute the story about it, there’s a video on CZcams I think you’ll just have to find it yourself regardless of anything it’s some thing that everyone should see, and don’t forget to bring your family!
There is no mystery here, and definitely no miracle ! It was built by an expert carpenter, yes. But it was unstable and unsafe from the get go as it had a steep incline, so much so that the nuns had to crawl down to prevent falling. And an iron railing had to be added years later to prevent accidents. In fact it hasn’t been used as a staircase for decades to prevent structural collapse. There is a central wooden support of small diameter. We also know the name and origin of the French carpenter. There has been payment made for services rendered as there were receipts found and we even know where he is buried. Spruce is the wood that is was made off which is hardly uncommon in the Americas. Samples of the wood are not allowed to be taken for scientific examination, so it’s impossible to determine the exact species of spruce used. Wooden pegs were the norm at the time since iron nails were expensive and difficult to come by. The church is a ‘for profit museum’ so there is an obvious financial incentive to perpetuate a ‘miraculous’ mystery, especially in a religious setting. And lastly, the ‘mysterious carpenter rode in on a donkey you say…. I call 🫏 💩 ! 🙄🤦🏽♂️🤣
I went there once to the Chapel to see the staircase, it is really beautiful. I lived in New Mexico for many years and frequently visited Santa Fe. It isn't the same as it was back in the late 1980's and I lost interest in going there. Still a beautiful city though.
I was going to send a cheque for a million dollars to El Paso, Loretto and discovered that my explanatory post on the construction of the staircase had been removed. One should keep an open mind, I will keep tbe Cheque.
THANK YOU ST JOSEPH FOR HELPING ME IN MY TRANSFORMATION PROJECT FOR THE HOUSE THAT I AM LIVIBG IN! PLEASE COME QUICKLY WITH YOUR. SKILL AND FINANCIAL ASTUTENESS! AMEN!.ALLELUIA! 🌅🏫🌄
Am I the only one who finds it difficult to believe such an elaborate chapel with an exquisite choir loft was meticulously designed and built to completion with absolutely no consideration as to how this loft would be accessed ??
I really appreciate your efforts & comments. I would be remiss, though, if I didn't point out your spelling of this site: Laredo is correct in long standing Texas tradition. Of course, I'm open to learning of what might have been before.
Is your point here that it should be "Laredo" and not "Loretto" because something something Texas? Please tell me I'm somehow misinterpreting your point. "Loretto" comes from the name of the chapel, the religious order that built it, and indeed the time-honored history of the term that long predates Texas and the US itself. As the creator said, it has nothing to do with Texas. Are you really so taken with a geopolitical boundary that you think the world must be viewed exclusively through its lens?
In regards to @michaelpatchett136. I misspoke. I should've said Southwestern US instead of Texas. Now @@drstewart I agree with you Loretto would be correct for the era the stairs were made. As in pre US pronunciation / spelling. Thanks!
Dear St Joseph You have done so many miracles in my liife I remember everything I thank God I thank you too for your intercession I love you dear St Joseph b We are living in the rented house Please pray to God to own a house Help me to construct the grave Yard garden and grave of my husband Pray for my husband's soul to rest in peace I feel very sorry that l did not give him last sacrement I am very sorry for that It is pricking my heart Please dear St Joseph b Take my husband's soul to God Console his soul Console me too by speaking to me in good signs Pray for all the souls neglected Thank you dear St Joseph I love you very much Amen
Well, not so much. Let's look at an engineering point of view: a) the ladder is not balanced, in fact; b) If the ladder was built and it remains to stand, then it is possible to build it and rebuild it. c) The spiral stairs are generally self-supported, that is, they are supported by themselves. In this case, they need a central axis vertically. d) St. Joseph's staircase is not self-employed, a spiral, or a spring segment that needs support and support at both ends, otherwise, it would close with one's own weight or with a person's loading over it. This ladder is sustained at the top and base, like a spring. e) can be built on site, with provisional support; from top to bottom, or even on the floor. In any case, the supports can only be removed after the ends are fixed. Of course with a load of a person, the stairs, or the spring, it closes slightly, not static. If the wood is not from planet Earth, it is a mystery. But the laws of physics are the same, anywhere in the universe.
I guess I’m one of the few who would visit strictly for the beauty of and the craftsmanship of the stairs, totally not caring about the fable surrounding it. I would be just as amazed if it were in the local library without the story.
Hi I just found out the identity of the mysterious carpenter; it has been known for awhile. Research showed it was most likely built by master carpenter Francois Jean Rochas Although it was a bit heartbreaking to learn about the "mystery" solved, I still find it is quite miraculous that a person of such extraordinary ability showed up at such a place (where only pioneers would venture in those days), after the nuns prayed a novena to St Joseph for their dilemma to be solved. Mr Rochas did get paid $150 for materials. Apparently, he was a bit of a grumpy hermit; he built a cabin in a rather isolated area and was found dead by a bullet in his chest. Let's pray for him: Eternal rest grant unto this good man, O Lord, and let Your perpetual light shine upon him. 🙏🏻
There are a lot of holes in the story that a certain Francois Jean Rochas built the stairs. 1. It says the wood were prefabricated in France and shipped to NM. There are no records of that. If they were prefabricated in France, it would have been known what kind of spruce it was. It was a kind not known in France, much less in NM. 2. If it were shipped from France, the carpenter that used it would not be able to transport all of the pieces on a mule or a donkey. They would not fit on a horseback. 3. The story says all the carpenter asked of the nuns were tubs of water to shape the pieces of wood. If they were prefabricated from France, the pieces would have been already shaped and ready for assembly - no need for tubs of water. 4. The old receipt that the nuns issued to Francois Jean Rochas for his services referred to his work in the school building, not the chapel. 5. Finally, a polymath professor from the University of Colorado, Forrest Easley made a study of the kind of wood used in building the staircase, and he was just amazed. Although not a Catholic, Easley is almost convinced the staircase was a miracle. He simply couldn't find an explanation on where the wood came from and how it was built. Here are the links to Easley's research paper: ://www.qsl.net/kf0ba/lorettotitlepagepreface2.htm www.qsl.net/kf0ba/lorettowoodanalysrpt.htm Enjoy!
I love these great mysteries of my Catholic faith!
Jesus is always leaving us things like this to strengthen our faith!
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@@viensolisNo, Rome is apostate as it teaches a FALSE gospel of works salvation, falsely teaches that Christ’s death doesn’t fully save and it perverts the doctrine of the Trinity by elevating Mary as some sort of fourth person of the Godhead by elevating her above Jesus.
No it was Joseph who built it. Why does Jesus get the credit for it merely for existing. I mean jopseph got his ass up and out of bed traveled all the way across a friggin desert on the back of an ass. Showed up asked them if he could build a staircase, stayed for half a year, made it with magic wood from another realm. Then built an impossible looking staircase without any nails, screws or glue. With a perfect double helix shape perfectly flawless. And does it for free and Jesus gets the credit. What the fudge
@@viensolis
As Catholics...we accept all of the councils.
Try reading the actual document's from the council of Vatican ll....they are beautifully written.
It's never advisable to jump on someone else's train...or to parrot their talking points.
Trust your own research...so that you don't look so silly layer on when you wake-up and realize that you have been lead down someone else's rabbit hole!
May God bless you and may He lead you to His truth..in the Catholic Church!
(Try listening to "Reason and Theology "
He is an ex-radical traditionalist)
Which is different then being a traditional Catholic!
One will lead you to schism and outside of our Lord's Church...and the other won't!
@@yungtre6118
Where do you think he got this "miraculous wood" or the "miraculous know how"or the "miraculous ability" to complete these stairs so quickly or where do you suppose the "miraculous money" came from....
All of this came from someone who was and is "MIRACULOUS"
I’ve seen this several times it’s truly amazing. Blessings to the Church. Blessings be.
3 times for me and as a retired carpenter it literally blows my mind to think it was built when it was without plans , the mystery of the species of wood , and a long list of other elements I wish I could walk up and down it 😊 oh well in my dreams
St Joseph, pray with me as I deal with some “housing issues”. I will count your blessings in Thanksgiving. Amen
How did the home issue go?
@@RyanCasey007 thank you for asking. I am 90% there with my housing dilemma and Praise Him and through the prayers of St Joseph it will all be completed.
Thou that not worship false idols. I am a jealous God, I share my glory with no one. No one comes to My Father except through me. Please please discover the truth.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
@@markmartinez3901amen is also a god brother do your research
Been there !! As a woodworker, I find the staircase amazing !! :-)
As a mechanic i also find it amazing!!
I am So happy and feeling good to see this. Thank you for sharing Michael. Love and pray from India
Thank you for a wonderful video! It is especially welcomed in the year of Saint Joseph! May God bless you!
I am a staircase builder. That looks amazing. I admired the construction
A beautiful, peaceful setting. Incredibly constructed. There ARE saints...Blessing
I have heard about this years ago and recently visited and spent an hour just gazing at it. I did not know about the fire. Another Miraculous fact. Thank you.
I watched because I wanted to. I have never seen this in person. It is absolutely beautiful. I believe it is a miracle.
As a Security Officer for the inn, one morning at 3:00am the front desk clerk sent me to the chapel on account that people were calling in that a light was on up in the steeple at the top of the staircase. All the lights in the chapel were always off at that time of the night. As I entered the chapel there was a bright light at the top. I climbed the stairs and my steps felt like I was walking on a sheet of paneling. I was a bit afraid as I went up. I just whispered the rosary as I went. At the top of the stairs there was another level if small wooden steps to the steeple. I went up and found two old lamps on timers that were set incorrectly. For the rest of my life I will never forget the mixed emotions that I had that morning. "JESUS I TRUST IN YOU!"
This event happened when I came home from the First Gulf War. "COME HOLY SPIRIT, COME"
Thank you for your service! Your story is a story I have had lived in different ways but the power of faith is unstoppable! Have a blessed day!
St Joseph is still hard at work at his craft.
A Novena is NOT a complex prayer.
could you give more information/explanation?
A Heavenly built staircase.
Great Job Michael! I appreciate how succinct you were!
Kampanerang kuba
I took my family to see it, I leaned over and touched it! Truly the closet I've ever been to the divine :)
Go to Mass. Jesus Christ is truly alive in the Eucharist.
I actually watched this out of interest as I haven't been in actual been in school in a few decades. But I am always happy to learn of new things and this was amazing to learn of. Thank you for your hard work for whatever reason you put this video up.
Amen . GOD CAN STLL PROFORM MIRACLES. GOT TO LOVE THIS STORY. THANKS FOR SHARING.
Joseph, not god.
I was there in 2008. Impressively. Believe God was behind these stairs.
I SAW IT AND IT'S AMAZING. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
AWESOME VIDEO!!! simply fantastic!
I understood when my wife and I visited the site that the carpenter also used tubs of water. The wood has not been identified. It is a clear case of documented divine assistance.
Wow....
They tried to improve on it and only damaged it because it was designed to be like a spring...
Amazing.
Well informative and awesome!
👍God bless!
Amen🙏
I love the fire effect you added there. Overall great info!
There was a master builder of staircases around that time. He built a larger spiral staicase with a single piece of mahogony for the bannister in the Earreckson House on Kent Island, MD. It has since been demolished. I dearly hope the bannister was saved.
Thanks for sharing amen and amen
As for the wood used in the stairway's construction, it has been identified as spruce--SNOPES
Excellent review, Michael.
St. Joseph please pray for me as I dealing with my financial problem
Good job young man now do a report on Saint Joseph!
It will be well worth your while.
Fr. Donald Calloway wrote a good book about Saint Joseph and is promoting him now!
There was no glue used in the construction only wooden pegs..
We alwways forget, Jesus is a carpenter by trade 😂
Beautiful.
The stair has 33 steps.
Wonderful documentary and video of the staircase. God and His Mysteries at work and after all these years we still marvel at His handy work!
I have always wondered how brick or stone buildings "Catch on fire".
I enjoyed visiting the Loretto chapel and the staircase. It is an amazing feat of architecture. There are some people out there who refute the story about it, there’s a video on CZcams I think you’ll just have to find it yourself regardless of anything it’s some thing that everyone should see, and don’t forget to bring your family!
I love this one.
The wood came from heaven
There is no mystery here, and definitely no miracle ! It was built by an expert carpenter, yes. But it was unstable and unsafe from the get go as it had a steep incline, so much so that the nuns had to crawl down to prevent falling. And an iron railing had to be added years later to prevent accidents. In fact it hasn’t been used as a staircase for decades to prevent structural collapse. There is a central wooden support of small diameter. We also know the name and origin of the French carpenter. There has been payment made for services rendered as there were receipts found and we even know where he is buried. Spruce is the wood that is was made off which is hardly uncommon in the Americas. Samples of the wood are not allowed to be taken for scientific examination, so it’s impossible to determine the exact species of spruce used. Wooden pegs were the norm at the time since iron nails were expensive and difficult to come by. The church is a ‘for profit museum’ so there is an obvious financial incentive to perpetuate a ‘miraculous’ mystery, especially in a religious setting. And lastly, the ‘mysterious carpenter rode in on a donkey you say…. I call 🫏 💩 ! 🙄🤦🏽♂️🤣
I went there once to the Chapel to see the staircase, it is really beautiful. I lived in New Mexico for many years and frequently visited Santa Fe. It isn't the same as it was back in the late 1980's and I lost interest in going there. Still a beautiful city though.
Enjoyed your video
Great video
The staircase is awesome. There are two unsupported spiral staircases in the LDS Manti Temple. I've seen them...
Nice job on this video report..ty!
There's only a handful of men today that could build a set of replica staircase like this.....honestly it's unheard of
aye, is true.
built a floating staircase last year.
lots and lots of laminating.
Great video best part is last 30 seconds
This was a good video! You have a good voice!
Visiting this site is well worth your time. Many interesting things to be observed are contained within this building.
Great job
coincidense that Loretto stairs in New Mexico and House of Loretto in Italy..(the holy family house) share the same name..
I was going to send a cheque for a million dollars to El Paso, Loretto and discovered that my explanatory post on the construction of the staircase had been removed.
One should keep an open mind, I will keep tbe Cheque.
Amen
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Thank you!
Lovely
Why did the nuns abandoned it????
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THANK YOU ST JOSEPH FOR HELPING ME IN MY TRANSFORMATION PROJECT FOR THE HOUSE THAT I AM LIVIBG IN!
PLEASE COME QUICKLY WITH YOUR. SKILL AND FINANCIAL
ASTUTENESS!
AMEN!.ALLELUIA!
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St Joseph was the mystery carpenter
How did the builder drill for the pegs with out a drill????
Chisel. They don’t have drills. It’s all a mystery. Divine intervention
Am I the only one who finds it difficult to believe such an elaborate chapel with an exquisite choir loft was meticulously designed and built to completion with absolutely no consideration as to how this loft would be accessed ??
The designer of the chapel had his own different plans but died before getting to the staircase.
During construction the first builder left
The loft was accessed by a simple ladder.
Spiral staircase - DNA helix
Nice
God does lots of miracles…what’s not to believe?
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As I remember the story there was not enough of the lumber to add rails or supports in any way nor money to buy more.
There's SO MANY other good reasons they probably chose 33 steps. Secret societies
Don’t you have other places to be instead of making idi- tic comments
I really appreciate your efforts & comments. I would be remiss, though, if I didn't point out your spelling of this site: Laredo is correct in long standing Texas tradition. Of course, I'm open to learning of what might have been before.
It is a longstanding New Mexico landmark, texas has nothing to do with it.
Is your point here that it should be "Laredo" and not "Loretto" because something something Texas? Please tell me I'm somehow misinterpreting your point.
"Loretto" comes from the name of the chapel, the religious order that built it, and indeed the time-honored history of the term that long predates Texas and the US itself. As the creator said, it has nothing to do with Texas. Are you really so taken with a geopolitical boundary that you think the world must be viewed exclusively through its lens?
In regards to @michaelpatchett136. I misspoke. I should've said Southwestern US instead of Texas. Now @@drstewart I agree with you Loretto would be correct for the era the stairs were made. As in pre US pronunciation / spelling. Thanks!
Dear St Joseph
You have done so many miracles in my liife
I remember everything
I thank God
I thank you too for your intercession
I love you dear St Joseph b
We are living in the rented house
Please pray to God to own a house
Help me to construct the grave
Yard garden and grave of my husband
Pray for my husband's soul to rest in peace
I feel very sorry that l did not give him last sacrement
I am very sorry for that
It is pricking my heart
Please dear St Joseph b
Take my husband's soul to God
Console his soul
Console me too by speaking to me in good signs
Pray for all the souls neglected
Thank you dear St Joseph
I love you very much
Amen
Praying to dead people is necromancy and a sin. Only need to pray to God alone.
I would removed the handrail in the spindles.
If it was abandoned , Who did they pay for he chapel ?
almost
Almost looks like DNA
Well, not so much. Let's look at an engineering point of view: a) the ladder is not balanced, in fact; b) If the ladder was built and it remains to stand, then it is possible to build it and rebuild it. c) The spiral stairs are generally self-supported, that is, they are supported by themselves. In this case, they need a central axis vertically. d) St. Joseph's staircase is not self-employed, a spiral, or a spring segment that needs support and support at both ends, otherwise, it would close with one's own weight or with a person's loading over it. This ladder is sustained at the top and base, like a spring. e) can be built on site, with provisional support; from top to bottom, or even on the floor. In any case, the supports can only be removed after the ends are fixed. Of course with a load of a person, the stairs, or the spring, it closes slightly, not static. If the wood is not from planet Earth, it is a mystery. But the laws of physics are the same, anywhere in the universe.
Well, from an engineering standpoint, you’ve explained what it is not, but you have not explained what it is
It is great mysteries@@armoredsaint6639
Blah blah and blah...
By the way, what is your opinion about the real builders of the Egyptian Pyramids?@@Lrasm13
By the way, what is your opinion about the real builders of the Egyptian Pyramids?
Who cares they did from the end of a whip
And it wasnt done in GODS name
Do the people even use the stairs ?
No picture of the original staircase without the railings?
You blind ? Or busy printing before 🎥 was finished
are you allowed to climb the staircase?
Abandoned? Why?
I think they just moved, but I would have to look it up.
Engineers don't explain how it works, yet there are models of it?
Good stuff but the Species of the wood was Israel where Joseph was from, not Alaska
The right side part of the building in the photo is going to make for a good Minecraft build project
Lol.. the poor guy who ACTUALLY built it got ZERO recognition 😂😂
I wish I knew I was getting graded on this 😮😊❤🎉
You don’t perform a novena, you speak it to God and St Joseph or whomever is the saint.
The nuns performed the novena for help and St Joseph showed up. Who else would leave taking no payment for such work.
If the nuns prayed for a miracle, then eceived a miracle, why would they then think it would collapse and need supporting.
For those who say its
not a miracle
Lets see you make one or a grain of sand
Or the juan diego miracle
So, Jesus's Dad visits us as well?
Old World Tech
3 months on the job and no one knew his name ?
No one i know or any tree or rock has a autogragh on who made it whats your stupid point
Wow so wobderful
constructed in 1879 and completed in 1878 ???
Wait really?
I guess I’m one of the few who would visit strictly for the beauty of and the craftsmanship of the stairs, totally not caring about the fable surrounding it. I would be just as amazed if it were in the local library without the story.
A fable lol!
they just putted concrete inside
Hi
I just found out the identity of the mysterious carpenter; it has been known for awhile. Research showed it was most likely built by master carpenter Francois Jean Rochas
Although it was a bit heartbreaking to learn about the "mystery" solved, I still find it is quite miraculous that a person of such extraordinary ability showed up at such a place (where only pioneers would venture in those days), after the nuns prayed a novena to St Joseph for their dilemma to be solved. Mr Rochas did get paid $150 for materials.
Apparently, he was a bit of a grumpy hermit; he built a cabin in a rather isolated area and was found dead by a bullet in his chest.
Let's pray for him: Eternal rest grant unto this good man, O Lord, and let Your perpetual light shine upon him. 🙏🏻
There are a lot of holes in the story that a certain Francois Jean Rochas built the stairs.
1. It says the wood were prefabricated in France and shipped to NM. There are no records of that. If they were prefabricated in France, it would have been known what kind of spruce it was. It was a kind not known in France, much less in NM.
2. If it were shipped from France, the carpenter that used it would not be able to transport all of the pieces on a mule or a donkey. They would not fit on a horseback.
3. The story says all the carpenter asked of the nuns were tubs of water to shape the pieces of wood. If they were prefabricated from France, the pieces would have been already shaped and ready for assembly - no need for tubs of water.
4. The old receipt that the nuns issued to Francois Jean Rochas for his services referred to his work in the school building, not the chapel.
5. Finally, a polymath professor from the University of Colorado, Forrest Easley made a study of the kind of wood used in building the staircase, and he was just amazed. Although not a Catholic, Easley is almost convinced the staircase was a miracle. He simply couldn't find an explanation on where the wood came from and how it was built.
Here are the links to Easley's research paper:
://www.qsl.net/kf0ba/lorettotitlepagepreface2.htm
www.qsl.net/kf0ba/lorettowoodanalysrpt.htm
Enjoy!