The NEW Edge Comp Review | Easy Power Gains for 24v 2nd Gen Cummins
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2023
- The new Edge Comp brings a modern interface and tuning to the 24v Cummins platform, with huge gains in power compared to stock. Is it worth it though? In this video I dive into this tuner, and give my thoughts after using it for several weeks on my 2nd Gen Cummins.
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To clarify a statement made in the video, this device is pending and slated to receive California Air Resource Board approval. Once that happens it will be 50 state legal, but until then, this device cannot be sold in California.
🤤 I am absolutely in love with that truck and your 3rd gen. You are killing me!
Been using the Quadzilla Adrenaline V2 for a couple years now with all the tuning set to the max with stock headbolts. Looks the same as the edge when in the truck, but has way more tuning parameters than the edge, and doesn't need to have the drag or hot unlock for the 36-3700rpm limit. The use of the iquad app is almost ridiculously simple. It won't be a huge difference on a stock truck, but with larger injectors and turbo you can turn can bus fueling lower than stock to make it clean if you need to as well as fine tune wire tap fueling and timing every 500rpm. They will have comparable fueling capabilities at WOT but edge is still using smarty like tuning whereas the quadzilla Adrenaline v2 is closer to efi live, of course not the same, but you can set specific values and limits rather than a vague scaling number. I really wish you didn't have to comnect to the app to change tunes so I like how edge has that. The apple app uses wifi and has more issues from what I hear but android uses bluetooth and I've only had an issue connecting once a year ago.
I’m glad to see they kept the Comp box legacy going! 🎉
That truck is sweet bro! And good info on the video Thankyou!
Love those wheels and love watching
Awesome. I believe that will help driving improve.
I installed the CTS3 edge juice w/attitude on mine last year. 2001 dodge ram 2500 4x4 w/auto. I did install the BD stealth cover. Installed the fleece power flo lift pump kit. I did mill over deciding between the quadzilla and the edge. Keep in mind im not one for big power. Just a little better than stock. Made my truck way more reliable than stock was my goal. For somebody of my skill level, the edge was the way to go for me. Im not saying the quadzilla is bad. Its amazing. Maybe one day ill try it on my other 2nd gen. As i learn more and gain skill/confidence level. But super super happy with my edge. Great videos. Keep em coming. Always good day for me to see 2nd content.
I run a juice with attitude in my 99, I installed it about 15 years ago and never out grew it. 63mm Garrett, 7/.011 DDP sticks, and many other things.
I’m pretty happy with my Banks setup .
I love my quad but having to connect to wifi to change my tune is a pain. But it doesn’t affect me enough to switch. Cool to see other options tho!
The evens walkers look so good
I’d like to seen one on a modified truck but great video.
On mobile your channel is “ Just Die..” lol
Could you please do a video on detailing engine of a second gen
Are you gonna make a video about the cts3 and comp box paired and installed in your 2nd gen
Hey Andrew, I wasn’t totally clear in the video, does this kit come with the waste gate turbo go-around
Not understanding the slander on quadzilla, do you mean the actual selection of the buttons and settings? Because i have had no issues with the quad and love having the gauges all on a 100$ tablet.
If I already have a edge juice with attitude can I put it to the same plug or do I have to redo the whole thing
Great video, just wondering what headlights you have on your 2nd gen. Thanks!
Just the ole stockers!
@@JustDiesels Oh, ok. I figured, are those original, or did you get replacements?
should I get rid of my old edge comp and get this? will it be a noticeable difference of should I just leave the old one in?
Any notable mpg differences?
What’s a good/safe tune i can run ? Stock 24v trans auto has fass liftpump 4in straight pipe , I want to roll coal once in a while Loo
Really like you mentality with your builds - After towing my race car with my '22 Hemi 2500, I'm going to give my 01 Cummins 5spd some love. I want to add power, monitoring, backup camera and Bluetooth audio. After messing with a double din install, I bailed on that as I didn't like the results. I'm gonna grab a new oem+ head unit that has Bluetooth input. I was leaning towards a Juice w/ Attitude CTS3. Seeing your results with the comp box has me rethinking. Do you know if the Comp Juice performs the same as the Comp box? Or would you look at a Comp Box + Insight combo?
This is going to be the top power adder for 24v trucks from edge, so you’d want to pair this with the standard cts3 insight gauge if you want digital gauges
@bennybaldwin2627 it sounds like you're the perfect candidate for the Juice with Attitude CTS3. With the built in safety parameters it's a great option for a tow rig, but the monitor can accept a back up camera easily.
Hey Andrew, I was wondering what your list of supporting mods would be to make 450-500hp reliably, on a VP44 truck. Would it be pretty much the same as the common rail video? With my 40hp injectors and it being a '01 NV5600, high output truck, I would be very close to that 500hp number with this tuner. I already have installed a Fass 165gph, which in my opinion, is the most important upgrade for a VP44 truck. Thanks!
My plans for this truck are transmission (done), head studs, valve springs, push rods, Fass (done) and then eventually injectors and a turbo.
Do you have the link to purchase the led light in the ram bumper?
Hey Andrew! I've considered tuning my 2nd gen but it was a pretty good find- single owner low miles and never tuned which was part of the draw. My question is- I have a Fass fuel system, will using a tuner compete with the Fass sump in a negative way??
Oops nevermind, you answered my question in the video.
I'm in Northern California, I guess I'll have to get a buddy to ship one to me.
@@joeyspaghetti5723allegedly ship you one 😜
If I ever want to buy a 3rd gen Cummins I’ll ask you for help lol
Wonder how it'll feel with a 6 speed.
been looking around for a tuner.
Works extremely well in a manual trans as long as you've got the clutch to hold the added torque
quadzilla out the gate
How are you liking the comp box. I just ordered one for my 2000 after watching your video. I’ve been eyeing it up for a couple months. Finally pulled the trigger. Still like it? No problems?
Yeah loving it and still very happy with it even after doing a bigger turbo and injectors!
@@JustDiesels sweet. Can’t wait to get mine and get it installed. Thanks and keep up the great videos.
What kind of gauges do you have on your A-pillar? I’m looking for some to install on my 2nd gen.
Also why did you choose to go with the gauges and not the CTS3?
I have autometer gauges. I love the cts3 on my third gen but wanted a more classic look on this truck. Kinda sucks to only be able to see 3 parameters though.
@@JustDiesels ahh I see. Nothing wrong with the classy look. It looks great! Thanks for the reply and I’m looking forward to more amazing videos!
Would this be safe to use on a stock truck, stock transmission with only a 100gph fass lift pump?
In low levels yes, but the torque converter will be trashed pretty quick in the higher levels.
As far as I can tell my 12 RAM 2500 Laramie is completely stock off the line I get 0-60 in 11-12 seconds? It seems fast for stock? The DPF is still there the original turbo is there, it has 145k on it , I've primarily used it to tow a Fifth Wheel Camper around the USA . Unless the previous owner did something so discreet to it ? It's Stock and beats your stock time?
6.7 Cummins is completely different, has a VGT turbo so it will make max boost way faster thus giving you a quicker 0-60
Gotta remember too my 0-60 times aren’t really comparable though. I have 35” tires and wasn’t on level ground.
Are you running stock injectors ?
Yep!
Nice I want to run a tuner on my truck it’s a 2000 24v stock besides 4in straight pipe and fass lift pump, just wanna know if it’s safe to run of course I know their would be a limit I’d have due to stock trans.
@@JustDiesels I’m new to diesels so don’t know much lol i got it 1year ago but wanna do some little upgrades
Does it have high idle in the app?
The Quadzilla does. You just set it for how long you want it to delay or wait for it to idle up. Say 30 seconds at standard idle, than it will idle up to 1000-1100 until you touch the accelerator.
Not at the moment, but I feel like that’s something that could be easily added with an app update.
My cts3 edge juice w/attitude does.
So does it fuel too 4k? Or 36 or ???
Heard 3600
Has anyone else felt that the Quadzilla Adrenaline has a "really clunky" interface like he says? I have no experience with tuners but I'm looking to pick up one very soon. The Quadzilla was the front runner for me. With him saying that it's clunky multiple times, it has me wondering. I didn't see where there was an option to run digital gauges on the phone nor did I see a valet mode option like the Quad has. Custom tuning was a big selling point for me. I'm not really sold on this comp box unless the Quad really is that clunky
I feel the same way @bluejwalker
This does have a valet mode as you can alter pedal response, but if you’ve used quad’s wifi interface you’ll understand. It sucks. If custom tunes are the goal though, that’s the way.
I use the Quad ADR with blue tooth on my Iphone. Its super easy so I don't know where you get "clunky" from! Find a local guy with a Quad and have him show you how easy it works and how easy it is to change both tunes and power levels.
Bro, quadzilla out the gate. Don't even have to see the whole video, lol
can you elaborate plz looking between the quad and this. thnx
@TX-cumminsgriesel the Quadzilla has the most features of any tuner available for a VP44 cummins. You are able to tune it yourself somewhat like a standalone ecu. It has way more features, it also has the ability for one to make complete custom tunes in addition to the tunes preloaded from Quadzilla. Personally it was a night and day improvement from stock. Would recommend an upgraded lift pump or a complete fuel system to keep her happy though.
@@FPAUTO right on man that's exactly what I was looking for. getting a fass 165 as well to go with the the quad
Doesn’t matter what Quad can and can’t do. It takes more dialing in and yet the records at the track still all belong to Edge equipped trucks 😊
@@mxerb5912 💯 💯💯
If you think the quadzilla uses wifi, I have a hard time believing you've ever actually had one on a truck.
I’ve got the iQuad one that uses WiFi to connect they are offered in both Bluetooth dongle or WiFi and personally it’s better and has more functionality, it’s completely customizable in every category
This is the same as the juice with attitude
No this is the highest power option Edge offers.
Say buy to your automatic 😂😂😂👍
Buy
Which Edge product exactly is this? A quick google search for the 2nd gen cummins edge bought up a bunch of edge products . Also im new to 2nd gen cummins (99 24v 5.9l along with 5spd nv4500). All stock, well-maintained, 1 owner vehicle 175k miles, would you recommend a lift pump at this moment? Tnx