Isiah Thomas is once again making headlines by taking shots at Michael Jordan and to nobody's surprise Nick Wright came out defending Isiah. Hope you enjoy.
It's the same reason he doesn't say shit about Bird beating Jordan. Currys Team were always way better. 2015 you had LeBron against Curry, Thompson, Iguodala, and Green. 2016 everyone was there, LeBron won. 2017 GS had Durant and 2018 LeBron was alone again. LeBron had the worse team 4 times and won 1, MJ had the better team 2 times and won 1. There is a clear difference.
@@Dadada-yi5cf tbf, Jordan in those first 2 matchups with Detroit didn't have a teammate the caliber of Kyrie or Kevin Love. I know there were injuries in those series and I'm taking that into consideration but it really was basically Michael Jordan vs the Detroit Pistons cause Jordan carried those early teams dragging and kicking to the postseason. He never had a prayer against an all time Boston Celtics team or an all time great defensive team like Detroit.
@@jbellflower83 you are correct mj carried those teams into the postseason where he lost, LeBron carried those teams all the way into the finals. That's the difference between those two
@@Dadada-yi5cf Still not enough to top MJ though. As for LBJ winning against the warriors, don't forget they missed Bogut and Green one games each on that series. That was not complete warriors. Also, LBJ first 2 rings happened because he decided to join an already stacked team in Miami. LBJ also had at least 2 all-stars in his team from that point onwards. MJ only had Pippen. You can argue that LBJ may have faced better teams but at the same time he had better help. That is the difference between the two.
Saying MJ's era was weak is like a fragging slap to all the Legends and Hall of Famers he played against. (And they are the ones who knows Basketball better than Nick Wrongs)
@@JohnnyRodgers3 Where Wilt literally played how many teams? And the Celtics had carte blanche on whoever? Just no. If you think Wilt's era was better, ask yourself how Wilt got those gaudy numbers in the first place. The game was raw and the players of the era were raw.
@@VVVY777 nope...if anything from the 60s to the late mid 70s consisted of the purest form of basketball...he got those numbers because he's the goat😭...back then it was harder to score...easier to defend...now it's the opposite...in todays game he's either averaging far more points while being a little less efficient....or he's averaging less points while being inhumanely efficient
It’s surprising to hear that the pistons weren’t as “old” as most people would say when MJ beat them. Beating them when they were coming off back to back championships with none of their stars over 32 is a very impressive feat.
This narrative was started by Lebron fans. They’re the dumbest fans in the history of sports. In a sad attempt to diminish Jordan’s accomplishments they are actually hurting Lebron legacy but they’re too stupid to realize it 😂If it’s a bad thing or not a big deal if you beat a old team what does losing to old teams do for your legacy? Lebron has lost to an aging Celtics team in 2010 after leading 2-1. ( played awful next 3 games so no it wasn’t his team ). Was held to 17ppg vs the 2nd oldest team to win the Finals 2011 Mavs and Bron had the best roster in the NBA at the time. Got beat by a record margin by an old Spurs team with the team he promised to win 8 rings with 😂. BTW Bronsexuals what does it do to your legacy when you’re the oldest team to win a ring ? Jordan and the 98 Bulls are the oldest team to win a chip. Pippen was having back issues. MJ scored more points than the entire bulls team in game 6 to seal the deal.
Right rooting for the bad boys is the only time I hate Jordan but to be fair Jordan and The Bulls WON that series had they not then Pistons would be back in the finals
Us West Conference "heads" thought it was funny when they implemented the Jordan Rules. Let them beat themselves up kind of thinking. The next year and then some we felt kind of sorry for Jordan, because even as children we knew it was dirty.
Unathletic Jokic and Luka are dominating in today’s “better NBA”. Imagine what Bird and McHale would do in this NBA. Today’s nba is a high scoring no defense league.
For real. People keep massively overrating athleticism and its importance. It is great an all, but when many of the league's best players are no more athletic than guys from 20, 30, 40 years ago then who really cares. Skill is significantly more important than athleticism. Gimme the highly skilled average athlete over the low skilled freak athlete all the time.
LOL MJ and Thomas played in a brutal and bloody era !! Could u imagine todays soft players playing back then !! They didnt rely on 3 PT shots either !!
Every single player of todays league would be crying on the bench before teh first quarter was over if they had to play in the 80s or 90s. The trash talking alone would send them howling to their safe space.
People act as if MJ had quality teammates in the 80s lol.. They also act as if MJ failed for 15 years then finally got carried by D Wade to a championship. - in reality, MJ won right on schedule in year 7.. GOAT 🐐
When he finally did have quality teammates, LeBron stans over inflate how good all of them were. Imagine saying that Scottie Pippen was a true equal in every way to Jordan and wonder why people don't take you seriously from then on. I loved Scottie, but he is not Jordan's equal.
@@davidmartinez52420 Bro, there are numerous players people would take in the 90's before Pippen. Shaq, Penny, Nique, Isiah, Magic, Drexler, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Barkley, Grant Hill, and Malone are clearly better. Stockton, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller, Sean Kemp are probably better if not at least on par with Pippen. You have to get down to players like Glenn Rice and Steve Smith before I'd feel comfortable giving Scottie the edge, but realistically how good could those guys have been if they were playing against Jordan in practice for years?
@@donela6730 That's my point though.....as great as Scottie was and how massively important he was to the success of the Bulls, there were still a lot of individually better players than him during his era. LeBron stans though act like Jordan and Pippen were 1a and 1b and everyone else in the league was behind them.
How about Nick interviews some of those "weak" players and see how that goes for him. He can only say what he says from his safe space. Anybody can do that for shock value.
@@bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz5431Tell this to Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe who try and say lebron is the Goat let them know that winning and losing is a team game
You know how insignificant nick wright is when of all the occasions he has said mj era is weak not one of the legends who played in that era has ever bothered to clap back at him
Or they know it is true. If you took every single player who peaked in the 90s the only one I could see getting real minutes in todays league would be Shaq. Every other person would be laughed out of every gym. They are too small, too weak and too slow. They can't shoot for shit and they got carried offfensively by "no zone defense".
Jordan and the Bulls prevented a Pistons 3peat which for some reason get called “beating a ageing Pistons team” 😂 …. When you say 3peat twice they say “against plumbers “ I guess plumbers are NBA top 50 HOF’s🙄. And loosing in the playoffs is no where close as bad as loosing in the finals biggest stage in the league for all the marbles ….. Flawless Finals victories still unmatched 💯
they never had any argument against GOAT. not a single argument. Just envy, jealousy and selling ESPN fanboys today's weak, sissy, bron NBA. Everyone knows what GOAT did in the toughest of the tough 1980s and 1990s decade. every team was top heavy and fully loaded. nick wrong can cry all he wants. LBJ has 3 big astrixes next to 3 or is rings. thanks to "collusion" and "bubble ring". only 2016 ring is legit. rest are just garbage.
Can you imagine LBJ or Curry being smothered like Jordan was by the Bad Boys Pistons even with dirty tactics? Both would have run crying to their mummies off the court.
@@sugarnads you be real, LBJ can't be touched even with a ten-foot pole, the moment any player gets closed to him referees call it foul. The same happens with Curry, Durant and every today's scorer. The NBA has become a three-point contest because the rule states hand- checking is not allowed. You can't defend anyone in the perimeter, hence even the worst teams average 110 points. And it's not an opinion, check out the stats. I would like to see smothering defense in today' s NBA commanded by teams such as the Bad Boys and Payton' s Sonics. See how good LBJ and Curry would be, I seriously doubt they could score as much as they do today.
They said that era was weak but yet coming from these hall of farmers. One of the best who ever played the league like kobe, shaq, KG they don't wanna messed up with MJ. That's how good he was.
@@terrytitus5291 come on man. Yeah Iverson broke ankles and it got him 0 rings. Put mj and iverson in a one on one game in there primes and mj destroys him.
Nick Wright logic: Lebron is a better player because he has played in 10 finals.. where Jordan has only played in 6. Nick Wright logic: Lebron is better player because he has more points scored than Jordan in his career. Nick Wright logic: Lebron faced nothing but super teams by himself in the finals… Jordan played on a superteam against nobodies.. Nick Wright logic: The sky is blue because the grass is green, and sand is yellow..
@@mixedpleasure4324 Same here! He needs to do more listening and less talking. I remember hearing him trying to minimize the greatness of Lawrence Taylor! And his era
Apart from the arguments themselves, it's also something to watch all those highlights of Jordan going at the Pistons time and time and time and time again, when he ABSOLUTELY knew that there was a high chance of getting beaten up to the ground as a result. You can see he just didn't know any other way but to keep going until he could beat them.
What other way was there? At the time, shooting threes isn't a viable option due to lack of a strong rebounder on the inside. Passing to his teammates wasn't viable either due to their poor field goal percentage. The best way for MJ to win at the time was to drive to the basket, score and put the Pistons in foul trouble. MJ had a great free throw percentage after all. If there was another way for him to beat the Pistons at that time, please let me know. I'm curious.
@@JethNova143 I didn't say there was another way. My point is somebody with a weaker mentality might have started passing the ball around or shooting from further away just to avoid the physicalities, even if it meant a smaller chance of winning.
Pip 1.0 ppg, last 2 games bulls eliminated by Pistons, game 6, 1989, had 0, and game 7, 1990 had 2 points in 42 minutes. Pippen was knocked unconscious 1 minute into game 6, 1989. MJ had a groin injury 1989, and pistons injured Jordan in 1st quarter game 1, 1990, he limped after half time and the entire game 2, Pistons won both games.
Just look at how lax rules are being implemented today vs the rules "plumbers" had to deal with. From carrying, to travelling, to fouls... so much offense friendly today. There are yt videos comparing rule changes comparing different decades. Also a yt video featuring AI showing moves today were called back then.
The late 80's and 90's was a brutal era for offensive players. I remember watching games where guys got elbowed in the face, got black eyes, were bruised and there were no flagrant fouls to speak of. In today's era some of those would warrant multiple game suspensions. That's why MJ's scoring titles are so impressive, cause he did it in a time where defense had a much higher premium and value than in today's NBA.
Exactly. They said Rodman was old and washed in 1991, but apparently in 1996, 5 years after he's washed and old, he makes the Bulls a superteam? Lebron fans logic be like:
Nick Wrong never mentions Horace Grant who's ranked higher than Pippen from '87 and '88 season. They always portrayed Pippen as MJ's "Savior" but they omitted the fact that Rodman easily replaced Pippen when he held the Bulls hostaged by delaying his surgery. They make fun of MJ when he got swept by the Celtics but they never mention 63 points that is still unbeaten record for almost 4 decades now, then Bird named MJ as Black Jesus. In psychology liars tend to blink excessively while talking.
And this is what happened after the 63 point game, McHale did not play Btw: czcams.com/video/YJJt6dZVqtM/video.html Y'all make fun of other all time greats for not being 6-0 in the Finals, what about the 6-0 Bird gave to Jordan huh ?
@@dynamic6645 who makes fun of others? Celtics and Lakers are a legit superteam during their eras. MJ Bulls and Celtics 1st encounter, the Celtics is the top seed both East and West and ended up as NBA Champs. Bird's Celtics have all the supporting cast that they need while MJ is singlehandedly carrying the Bulls and he just came back from broken foot that costed him 64 games. I dont even get it why Nick never considered the Badboy Pistons as a superteam and can be directly compared on how the 1st title run of GSW became a superteam. Superteam doesnt only mean bunch of all-stars and superstars, Superteams with fluid chemistry is an automatic superteam too. We can't pull others down to raise our own.
@@dynamic6645 but it wouldnt change a thing, Celtics still has its supporting cast. Playoffs will expose you if your team is ready or not. But when a certain team reached the Finals it means he represents their conference and Celtics case they are back to defend their titles against Magic's Lakers. Finals is about winning and there is no other choice but to win. Sports is about winning.
I’m glad someone else can decipher the BS that always comes out of Nick Wright’s mouth! Idk why he’s still even on TV. All of his so called valid points are worthless
Yep the era of Jordan, Magic, Abdul-Jabbar, Pippen, David Robinson, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Shaq, Hakeem Olajuwan, Kemp, Drexler, Larry Johnson, Robert Parish, Isaiah Thomas...Such a weak era🤣 Just turn off ESPN already. It's WOKE TRASH.
Why does Isiah hate M.J.? First he took over the Chi, his coach C.Daly took M.J. over him in Olympics,Bobby Knight, I.T. 'a college coach said M.J.'s the best and Zeke's feelings are hurt for life. Don't forget about the gambling either.
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As a senior basketball player and seminal semi-pro from Detroit - i have seen the complete evolution of the NBA and I will take issue with your perspective.
If MJ played in a weaker era, what does that have to do with Michael Jordan? It's not his fault how the opposition plays basketball. He can only control one person - himself....
Today’s players would for the most part be laughable playing against the teams of the 70’s and 80’s and the rules played by then. They are no where as physically or mentally as tough. Take out the three point shot and most of them couldn’t even make the squad.
Michael Jordan had the Iceman as a teammate and still got swept. George said Jordan refused to pass him the ball. All the points jordan scored he was a selfish player
You killed him homie! That dude is the BIGGEST Jordan hater ever! Dude str8 lies all the time when Jordan is in the topic! Appreciate the breakdown man!
MJ did not hate Isaiah because of playing dirty, Miami and Knicks played dirty MJ liked to play them. MJ did not like Isaiah because of the way he left the playoffs with time left on the clock nor shaking hands, he was a sore looser and unsportsmanlike.
You already know this is about selling the nba and Lebron, because Chris B who knows everything about the nba sat there and let Nick lie up a storm without checking him. 90’ was when Pippen made his 1st all star team he sat out in the ECF with headaches and the Bulls lost .
Nick W is 1 of the reasons I no longer listen or watch basketball. This story you are telling is when basketball was real. Now you are my only source of basketball news. Keep up the hard work thank you.
I'm old enough to have watched basketball...when you could find it back in the day...since the 60s. Grew up in Cleveland and my brother, some friends and I once drove down to Pittsburgh to watch the Virginia Squires vs the Pittsburgh Pipers. We knew about Dr. J, but talked about Connie Hawkins all the way home. lol The era from Magic/Bird to Ginobli/Duncan was by far the peak afa as team play and 'stay outta the paint' goes. That being said today's game takes alot of unfair criticism. Alot of today's roster fillers would have dominated the league back then. There are 6'11" WBs draining 3s at a 40% clip, passes so true they're truth. The eye test alone will tell you today's players are simply bigger, faster, stronger and shoot better than the Golden Age guys. The 3 wasn't as much of a weapon back then like it is now. The greats will always be the greats, but the game has evolved and changed. MJ is still the GOAT, though. He would've dominated today's game, too.
Jordan hated the Pistons so much, he had 3 of them join his Bulls: Rodman, Salley, Edwards and played golf with coach Daly everyday in 1992 for the Olympics 🤷♂️
All I am going to say is that back in the 80s 90s and early 2000s basketball was more fierce than now and more harder,. The hard hits, the trash talks, defence were brutal in my opinion and was more fun to watch..
Any pundit who harps on that Isaiah beat Jordan 3-1 In the playoffs hasn't a clue about basketball. To this day The Jordan Rules was the way to stop MJ. To this day Joe D and MJ hold mutual respect for each other as it were he who guarded Mike. Mike got massacred in his pursuit for the titles, so no Mickley mouse sports analyst should disrespect that.
Interesting take. "There is a reason Jordan has such disgust for Isiah" Could it be, Isiah Thomas and Bill Laimbeer came up with the idea of walking off the court before the final seconds ticked off the clock in 91, and refusing to show respect by shaking hands with their betters? This is the poorest sportsmanship in any professional contest ever! When you ask people, who's opinions mean something, (Gary Payton, Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnet, Vince Carter, Shaq, Kobe, Bird, Magic.. and on and on.) They all say the same thing. Goat = MJ But hey what do those guy's know right?
Jordan hated Isiah Thomas because the Pistons were a dirty team, but mostly because Isiah had no "class". When the Bulls finally beat the Pistons, Isiah walked off the court without congratulating Jordan and Bulls. Bird hated Isiah and the Pistons too.
Nick harps on Isiah beating Jordan 3-1 in playoff match ups but would never frame it that way when it comes to Lebron against Curry.
It's the same reason he doesn't say shit about Bird beating Jordan. Currys Team were always way better. 2015 you had LeBron against Curry, Thompson, Iguodala, and Green. 2016 everyone was there, LeBron won. 2017 GS had Durant and 2018 LeBron was alone again. LeBron had the worse team 4 times and won 1, MJ had the better team 2 times and won 1. There is a clear difference.
@@Dadada-yi5cf tbf, Jordan in those first 2 matchups with Detroit didn't have a teammate the caliber of Kyrie or Kevin Love. I know there were injuries in those series and I'm taking that into consideration but it really was basically Michael Jordan vs the Detroit Pistons cause Jordan carried those early teams dragging and kicking to the postseason. He never had a prayer against an all time Boston Celtics team or an all time great defensive team like Detroit.
@@jbellflower83 you are correct mj carried those teams into the postseason where he lost, LeBron carried those teams all the way into the finals. That's the difference between those two
@@Dadada-yi5cf your an idiot if you think LeBron is better than Jordan by a mile Jordan is the goat it's not even close
@@Dadada-yi5cf
Still not enough to top MJ though.
As for LBJ winning against the warriors, don't forget they missed Bogut and Green one games each on that series. That was not complete warriors.
Also, LBJ first 2 rings happened because he decided to join an already stacked team in Miami. LBJ also had at least 2 all-stars in his team from that point onwards. MJ only had Pippen. You can argue that LBJ may have faced better teams but at the same time he had better help. That is the difference between the two.
Saying MJ's era was weak is like a fragging slap to all the Legends and Hall of Famers he played against. (And they are the ones who knows Basketball better than Nick Wrongs)
Wilts era was better
@@JohnnyRodgers3 Where Wilt literally played how many teams? And the Celtics had carte blanche on whoever? Just no. If you think Wilt's era was better, ask yourself how Wilt got those gaudy numbers in the first place. The game was raw and the players of the era were raw.
@@VVVY777 nope...if anything from the 60s to the late mid 70s consisted of the purest form of basketball...he got those numbers because he's the goat😭...back then it was harder to score...easier to defend...now it's the opposite...in todays game he's either averaging far more points while being a little less efficient....or he's averaging less points while being inhumanely efficient
@@JohnnyRodgers3 😂
I can’t understand how a guy like Nick has a job
It’s surprising to hear that the pistons weren’t as “old” as most people would say when MJ beat them. Beating them when they were coming off back to back championships with none of their stars over 32 is a very impressive feat.
This narrative was started by Lebron fans. They’re the dumbest fans in the history of sports. In a sad attempt to diminish Jordan’s accomplishments they are actually hurting Lebron legacy but they’re too stupid to realize it 😂If it’s a bad thing or not a big deal if you beat a old team what does losing to old teams do for your legacy? Lebron has lost to an aging Celtics team in 2010 after leading 2-1. ( played awful next 3 games so no it wasn’t his team ). Was held to 17ppg vs the 2nd oldest team to win the Finals 2011 Mavs and Bron had the best roster in the NBA at the time. Got beat by a record margin by an old Spurs team with the team he promised to win 8 rings with 😂. BTW Bronsexuals what does it do to your legacy when you’re the oldest team to win a ring ? Jordan and the 98 Bulls are the oldest team to win a chip. Pippen was having back issues. MJ scored more points than the entire bulls team in game 6 to seal the deal.
Right rooting for the bad boys is the only time I hate Jordan but to be fair Jordan and The Bulls WON that series had they not then Pistons would be back in the finals
Us West Conference "heads" thought it was funny when they implemented the Jordan Rules. Let them beat themselves up kind of thinking. The next year and then some we felt kind of sorry for Jordan, because even as children we knew it was dirty.
ishiah Thomas was 30 in 1991
@@ricardolozano5356 right? Aaaaah to be 30 again.
Unathletic Jokic and Luka are dominating in today’s “better NBA”. Imagine what Bird and McHale would do in this NBA. Today’s nba is a high scoring no defense league.
it's soft
For real. People keep massively overrating athleticism and its importance. It is great an all, but when many of the league's best players are no more athletic than guys from 20, 30, 40 years ago then who really cares. Skill is significantly more important than athleticism. Gimme the highly skilled average athlete over the low skilled freak athlete all the time.
80s were higher scoring than current NBA
@@davidmartinez52420 good in skill but soft at heart ❤️
Not to mention players of the past would be able to take advantage of the rules changes as well
LOL MJ and Thomas played in a brutal and bloody era !! Could u imagine todays soft players playing back then !! They didnt rely on 3 PT shots either !!
Every single player of todays league would be crying on the bench before teh first quarter was over if they had to play in the 80s or 90s.
The trash talking alone would send them howling to their safe space.
LETTEM RUN UP AN DOWN THE COURT WITH RICK MAHORN AN BILL LAIMBEER FOR A GAME OR 2 Then we'll talk..lol
I might add that if Laimbeer Had the Green Light for the 3pointers all night long u Better Watch out the Bad Boy Could Shootem too..!!!
People act as if MJ had quality teammates in the 80s lol.. They also act as if MJ failed for 15 years then finally got carried by D Wade to a championship.
- in reality, MJ won right on schedule in year 7.. GOAT 🐐
Think the better question is how many titles would MJ have won if he were drafted to a great team like Magic/Larry or even Barkley.
@@donela6730 exactly
When he finally did have quality teammates, LeBron stans over inflate how good all of them were. Imagine saying that Scottie Pippen was a true equal in every way to Jordan and wonder why people don't take you seriously from then on. I loved Scottie, but he is not Jordan's equal.
@@davidmartinez52420 Bro, there are numerous players people would take in the 90's before Pippen. Shaq, Penny, Nique, Isiah, Magic, Drexler, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Barkley, Grant Hill, and Malone are clearly better. Stockton, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller, Sean Kemp are probably better if not at least on par with Pippen.
You have to get down to players like Glenn Rice and Steve Smith before I'd feel comfortable giving Scottie the edge, but realistically how good could those guys have been if they were playing against Jordan in practice for years?
@@donela6730 That's my point though.....as great as Scottie was and how massively important he was to the success of the Bulls, there were still a lot of individually better players than him during his era. LeBron stans though act like Jordan and Pippen were 1a and 1b and everyone else in the league was behind them.
How about Nick interviews some of those "weak" players and see how that goes for him. He can only say what he says from his safe space. Anybody can do that for shock value.
Exactly 💯💪🏿
Nick Wright needs to admit that Steph can look LeBron in the eyes and say "I got the better of you."
Duncan too
Team game anybody ?
@@bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz5431Tell this to Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe who try and say lebron is the Goat let them know that winning and losing is a team game
Will do that ASAP, good point those guys really act like we're talkin Boxing or Tennis, sometimes they yell, sometimes is quite funny
@Bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz We all know it's a team effort. I just like applying Nick Wright's own logic to his boy LeBron James. 😂😂
You know how insignificant nick wright is when of all the occasions he has said mj era is weak not one of the legends who played in that era has ever bothered to clap back at him
I wonder if he'd have the balls to say it to their faces
@@davidmartinez52420 I think we know the answer 🙂
Or they know it is true. If you took every single player who peaked in the 90s the only one I could see getting real minutes in todays league would be Shaq. Every other person would be laughed out of every gym. They are too small, too weak and too slow. They can't shoot for shit and they got carried offfensively by "no zone defense".
@@Dadada-yi5cf 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣That's some hella strong weed you smoke, bro. Shit fried the fuck out of your brain.
@@Dadada-yi5cf You are a putz. Plain and simple. Shaq got swept by the 1998 Jazz who were full of alleged "plumbers".
You do such a great job breaking down these "exaggerated" narratives. Keep going man. Keep going
This guy is very objective unlike nick wrong the clown
Also... When pistons were winning against bulls it's only Isaiah Thomas, but when they lost its The Pistons 🙄
Jordan and the Bulls prevented a Pistons 3peat which for some reason get called “beating a ageing Pistons team” 😂 …. When you say 3peat twice they say “against plumbers “ I guess plumbers are NBA top 50 HOF’s🙄. And loosing in the playoffs is no where close as bad as loosing in the finals biggest stage in the league for all the marbles ….. Flawless Finals victories still unmatched 💯
Exactly lol
they never had any argument against GOAT. not a single argument. Just envy, jealousy and selling ESPN fanboys today's weak, sissy, bron NBA. Everyone knows what GOAT did in the toughest of the tough 1980s and 1990s decade. every team was top heavy and fully loaded. nick wrong can cry all he wants. LBJ has 3 big astrixes next to 3 or is rings. thanks to "collusion" and "bubble ring". only 2016 ring is legit. rest are just garbage.
Ha ! making it to the Finals gets more money and more wins and more exposure, repeat more money, and more wins is what
Flawless eh ??
Yes did they really won when facing th Knicks, and theres more
I really love seeing Knick Wrong breaking down..
Can you imagine LBJ or Curry being smothered like Jordan was by the Bad Boys Pistons even with dirty tactics? Both would have run crying to their mummies off the court.
Be real.
The refs protrcted mj thru out the 90s. He carries and travels at will. And post pistons even leaning toward him drew fouls.
@@sugarnads you be real, LBJ can't be touched even with a ten-foot pole, the moment any player gets closed to him referees call it foul.
The same happens with Curry, Durant and every today's scorer.
The NBA has become a three-point contest because the rule states hand- checking is not allowed.
You can't defend anyone in the perimeter, hence even the worst teams average 110 points.
And it's not an opinion, check out the stats.
I would like to see smothering defense in today' s NBA commanded by teams such as the Bad Boys and Payton' s Sonics.
See how good LBJ and Curry would be, I seriously doubt they could score as much as they do today.
Yeah and then they would have to go and face the Celtics and follow that up with the Pacers and maybe the Lakers they wouldn't survive the season
@@blazinrowbot9485 And don't forget the 1990's Knicks who were as tough as nails when it came to defending in every corner of the court.
They said that era was weak but yet coming from these hall of farmers. One of the best who ever played the league like kobe, shaq, KG they don't wanna messed up with MJ. That's how good he was.
Not so sure,you think players wanna back down from.a challenge,watch Iverson break everyone's ankles including you know who!
@@terrytitus5291 how many rings iverson got?
@@terrytitus5291 He could break everyone's ankles but he didnt win shit bro. Idc if you can dunk from 3 point line, it aint shit without rings..
@@terrytitus5291 come on man. Yeah Iverson broke ankles and it got him 0 rings. Put mj and iverson in a one on one game in there primes and mj destroys him.
@@terrytitus5291 A.I is too small for MJ
No competition is gonna happen if they gonna play 1 on 1.
“They probably could [beat us]. I haven't played in 20 years and we're all old now."
Larry Bird.
Nick Wright logic: Lebron is a better player because he has played in 10 finals.. where Jordan has only played in 6.
Nick Wright logic: Lebron is better player because he has more points scored than Jordan in his career.
Nick Wright logic: Lebron faced nothing but super teams by himself in the finals… Jordan played on a superteam against nobodies..
Nick Wright logic: The sky is blue because the grass is green, and sand is yellow..
Nick Wrongs takes are always fun to hear 😂
Nah they are more annoying to me
@@mixedpleasure4324 he's so outrageous and biased i cant help but laugh at him lol
@@mixedpleasure4324 Same here! He needs to do more listening and less talking. I remember hearing him trying to minimize the greatness of Lawrence Taylor! And his era
its like rotten tomatoes just entertaining
Apart from the arguments themselves, it's also something to watch all those highlights of Jordan going at the Pistons time and time and time and time again, when he ABSOLUTELY knew that there was a high chance of getting beaten up to the ground as a result. You can see he just didn't know any other way but to keep going until he could beat them.
What other way was there?
At the time, shooting threes isn't a viable option due to lack of a strong rebounder on the inside.
Passing to his teammates wasn't viable either due to their poor field goal percentage.
The best way for MJ to win at the time was to drive to the basket, score and put the Pistons in foul trouble.
MJ had a great free throw percentage after all.
If there was another way for him to beat the Pistons at that time, please let me know.
I'm curious.
@@JethNova143 I didn't say there was another way. My point is somebody with a weaker mentality might have started passing the ball around or shooting from further away just to avoid the physicalities, even if it meant a smaller chance of winning.
@@danielh3668 I agree.
I was just genuinely curious if you knew a different way.
@@secoTheSonicFan Perhaps.
I'm not an expert in sports journalism so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Nick ¨Pinocchio¨ Wright
Pip 1.0 ppg, last 2 games bulls eliminated by Pistons, game 6, 1989, had 0, and game 7, 1990 had 2 points in 42 minutes. Pippen was knocked unconscious 1 minute into game 6, 1989. MJ had a groin injury 1989, and pistons injured Jordan in 1st quarter game 1, 1990, he limped after half time and the entire game 2, Pistons won both games.
People dont know these things they just go by what Nick Wrong says
That’s why I said Pippen is the most overrated player in sports history.
Refreshing to listen to someone with a brain speak on this
I love my bulls! Jordan will say look around you! You see my teams accomplishments!
A Baboon would make better predictions than Nick Wright :D
Just look at how lax rules are being implemented today vs the rules "plumbers" had to deal with. From carrying, to travelling, to fouls... so much offense friendly today. There are yt videos comparing rule changes comparing different decades. Also a yt video featuring AI showing moves today were called back then.
The late 80's and 90's was a brutal era for offensive players. I remember watching games where guys got elbowed in the face, got black eyes, were bruised and there were no flagrant fouls to speak of. In today's era some of those would warrant multiple game suspensions. That's why MJ's scoring titles are so impressive, cause he did it in a time where defense had a much higher premium and value than in today's NBA.
The analogy to a car salesman is right on.
Just imagine lebron playing vs the bad boy Pistons. He would make sure those were his "rest days".
Used car salesman of NBA analysts, brilliant!! 👍🏾
So Pistons had Dennis Rodman in late 80s but they weren't a superteam but Bulls had Rodman in late 90s but yet there a superteam 🤔
LeBron stan logic
Exactly. They said Rodman was old and washed in 1991, but apparently in 1996, 5 years after he's washed and old, he makes the Bulls a superteam? Lebron fans logic be like:
Good thing smart people don't take Nick Wrong seriously.
Nick Wrong never mentions Horace Grant who's ranked higher than Pippen from '87 and '88 season. They always portrayed Pippen as MJ's "Savior" but they omitted the fact that Rodman easily replaced Pippen when he held the Bulls hostaged by delaying his surgery. They make fun of MJ when he got swept by the Celtics but they never mention 63 points that is still unbeaten record for almost 4 decades now, then Bird named MJ as Black Jesus.
In psychology liars tend to blink excessively while talking.
And this is what happened after the 63 point game, McHale did not play Btw: czcams.com/video/YJJt6dZVqtM/video.html
Y'all make fun of other all time greats for not being 6-0 in the Finals, what about the 6-0 Bird gave to Jordan huh ?
@@dynamic6645 who makes fun of others? Celtics and Lakers are a legit superteam during their eras. MJ Bulls and Celtics 1st encounter, the Celtics is the top seed both East and West and ended up as NBA Champs. Bird's Celtics have all the supporting cast that they need while MJ is singlehandedly carrying the Bulls and he just came back from broken foot that costed him 64 games.
I dont even get it why Nick never considered the Badboy Pistons as a superteam and can be directly compared on how the 1st title run of GSW became a superteam. Superteam doesnt only mean bunch of all-stars and superstars, Superteams with fluid chemistry is an automatic superteam too.
We can't pull others down to raise our own.
@@GojoRamsay888 I said McHale did not play in game 3
@@GojoRamsay888 Well the Warriors were a superteam, their records and the eye test show it, Steph KD Klay Draymond Iguodala
@@dynamic6645 but it wouldnt change a thing, Celtics still has its supporting cast. Playoffs will expose you if your team is ready or not. But when a certain team reached the Finals it means he represents their conference and Celtics case they are back to defend their titles against Magic's Lakers. Finals is about winning and there is no other choice but to win. Sports is about winning.
Leflop would have had to push a mop to get into an arena in the 80s.
Thank you for making these videos and exposing the lies
Bruh Rodman was a super star too. Dude had 20 rebounds a game
Bro you're awesome! I'm subscribing after this video. Nick Wright is a fool. Isiah never got the better of MJ, that's a joke. Love your videos!!
Nick wright lol 😂 needs to 🛑 talking
I’m glad someone else can decipher the BS that always comes out of Nick Wright’s mouth! Idk why he’s still even on TV. All of his so called valid points are worthless
Yep the era of Jordan, Magic, Abdul-Jabbar, Pippen, David Robinson, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Shaq, Hakeem Olajuwan, Kemp, Drexler, Larry Johnson, Robert Parish, Isaiah Thomas...Such a weak era🤣 Just turn off ESPN already. It's WOKE TRASH.
More mj vids keep him up
Love how u don't even say nick wright at first u just said lebron fan😂
Great job, well done, as usual!!!
Love your videos, especially this ones...
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Well said. Nick is ridiculous
Nick Wrong :)
Nick wright is a joke lol it’s just that simple. Guy only speaks with emotion and pulls out absurd Stats out his asssss
Why does Isiah hate M.J.? First he took over the Chi, his coach C.Daly took M.J. over him in Olympics,Bobby Knight, I.T. 'a college coach said M.J.'s the best and Zeke's feelings are hurt for life. Don't forget about the gambling either.
You could dedicate a playlist to nick wright videos at this point talk about something else
Even elementary school kids knew the Pistons were a "super team" back then. Built to take on the Lakers and Celtics.
Whose era has the most hall of famer,whose era has the majority of 75 greatest players...
‘His era was weak,’ yet Jordan’s era contains more HOFs than any other, and at least 5 of the top 10 players ever. 🙄
That's because their careers are done, everyone in LeBrons Era is still playing so they not gonna get inducted yet
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As a senior basketball player and seminal semi-pro from Detroit - i have seen the complete evolution of the NBA and I will take issue with your perspective.
Very nice presentation as always,And as somone else said you must call him Nick Wrong!
If MJ played in a weaker era, what does that have to do with Michael Jordan? It's not his fault how the opposition plays basketball. He can only control one person - himself....
That Nick has a platform to ramble on these lies is borderline criminal
I do agree that the pistons were a superteam.
They played great as a team with everyone playing their role.
Nick Wright is a Agent in the matrix. Thank you for bringing balance and context to the basketball world.
It’s not even close! Jordan was far better than LeBron. Nick Wright is so frivolous, I don’t know how he has a TV job.
Pistons didn't get that "Bad Boys" nickname for nothin'! And yeah, the Pistons were hated league wide
The main reason is Thomas organized a freeze out of MJ in his first all star game. Jordan doesn’t forget. And he doesn’t forgive. That simple.
He’s just like a politician. You can say whatever you want if you think nobody is going to research it and find out the truth.
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Thanks for the Video again. We love when you debunk Nick Wright.
Today’s players would for the most part be laughable playing against the teams of the 70’s and 80’s and the rules played by then.
They are no where as physically or mentally as tough. Take out the three point shot and most of them couldn’t even make the squad.
I never listen to these kind of people. I listen to people who have played against both, pros and coaches especially if they have coached both
Haha those players are full of shit as well
With out Jordan the bad boys are a dinasty. Jordan needed one good player against a future dynasty to crush their dreams.
You can only be best of your time.
Michael Jordan had the Iceman as a teammate and still got swept. George said Jordan refused to pass him the ball. All the points jordan scored he was a selfish player
Jordan took it personally ! King of Chicago being that Isaiah is from Chicago too!
Except for his last three years there was no "restricted" zone in the NBA.
You killed him homie! That dude is the BIGGEST Jordan hater ever! Dude str8 lies all the time when Jordan is in the topic! Appreciate the breakdown man!
As always when using what Nick days about Jordan and apply it to LeBron, LeBron looks worse
Great take!!!! Nick Wright, Kendrick Perkins and Shannon Sharp are nothing more than LBJ's legacy hype team.
Celtics weren't nearly as dirty as Detroit? What the F, man? The 80s Celts played about as clean as gets.
MJ did not hate Isaiah because of playing dirty, Miami and Knicks played dirty MJ liked to play them. MJ did not like Isaiah because of the way he left the playoffs with time left on the clock nor shaking hands, he was a sore looser and unsportsmanlike.
Jordan's era was more physical but talent has evolved since then.
The players in the 80's didn't score more because of the defense and the skill coaches...
That "Pistons were old" narrative makes me seeth because they were not at all old. The Bulls just overtook them and never looked back.
You already know this is about selling the nba and Lebron, because Chris B who knows everything about the nba sat there and let Nick lie up a storm without checking him. 90’ was when Pippen made his 1st all star team he sat out in the ECF with headaches and the Bulls lost .
LeBron would be crying just by hearing those trash talks, not to mention taking any hits
Patrick Ewing had no knees and Charles Barkley was shooting threes that's just too
Nick W is 1 of the reasons I no longer listen or watch basketball. This story you are telling is when basketball was real. Now you are my only source of basketball news. Keep up the hard work thank you.
The 1990s was one of the strongest decades in NBA history. Jordan+Bulls was killing 60+ win teams.
Why does this guy still have a job
I'm old enough to have watched basketball...when you could find it back in the day...since the 60s. Grew up in Cleveland and my brother, some friends and I once drove down to Pittsburgh to watch the Virginia Squires vs the Pittsburgh Pipers. We knew about Dr. J, but talked about Connie Hawkins all the way home. lol The era from Magic/Bird to Ginobli/Duncan was by far the peak afa as team play and 'stay outta the paint' goes.
That being said today's game takes alot of unfair criticism. Alot of today's roster fillers would have dominated the league back then. There are 6'11" WBs draining 3s at a 40% clip, passes so true they're truth. The eye test alone will tell you today's players are simply bigger, faster, stronger and shoot better than the Golden Age guys.
The 3 wasn't as much of a weapon back then like it is now. The greats will always be the greats, but the game has evolved and changed. MJ is still the GOAT, though. He would've dominated today's game, too.
Jordan hated the Pistons so much, he had 3 of them join his Bulls: Rodman, Salley, Edwards and played golf with coach Daly everyday in 1992 for the Olympics 🤷♂️
The 93 suns and the 96 sonics and the 97, 98 jazz were no joke. They were really good teams and the west was very competitive.
All I am going to say is that back in the 80s 90s and early 2000s basketball was more fierce than now and more harder,. The hard hits, the trash talks, defence were brutal in my opinion and was more fun to watch..
I remember everyone hated the super team bad boy pistons in those 80s and 90s
You help me solve a lot of arguments without having to say a word
Any pundit who harps on that Isaiah beat Jordan 3-1 In the playoffs hasn't a clue about basketball. To this day The Jordan Rules was the way to stop MJ. To this day Joe D and MJ hold mutual respect for each other as it were he who guarded Mike. Mike got massacred in his pursuit for the titles, so no Mickley mouse sports analyst should disrespect that.
Interesting take. "There is a reason Jordan has such disgust for Isiah" Could it be, Isiah Thomas and Bill Laimbeer came up with the idea of walking off the court before the final seconds ticked off the clock in 91, and refusing to show respect by shaking hands with their betters? This is the poorest sportsmanship in any professional contest ever!
When you ask people, who's opinions mean something, (Gary Payton, Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnet, Vince Carter, Shaq, Kobe, Bird, Magic.. and on and on.) They all say the same thing. Goat = MJ
But hey what do those guy's know right?
Nick Wright is proof we live in a society
Nick's nickname should be "Never". As in Nick "Never" Wright.
In the league of MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem...the question is "Isiah Thomas who"? He's a second rung great, like LeBron.
Whoever say Michael Jordan era is weak don’t know sports period.
Jordan and Pippen dislike Isiah because neither could guard the 6 " 1" Phenom who kicked their butts in the East.
Loved the bad boy pistons team
Jordan hated Isiah Thomas because the Pistons were a dirty team, but mostly because Isiah had no "class". When the Bulls finally beat the Pistons, Isiah walked off the court without congratulating Jordan and Bulls. Bird hated Isiah and the Pistons too.