Sushi Belt is Better.
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00:00 Did you know that in Factorio, you should build sushi belts?
00:03 If you are sane person you probably use belts to transport one or two items at the time.
00:07 However you shouldn’t limit yourself to only 2 items at the time.
00:11 With some creativity you can put as many items on single belts as you wish.
00:16 You can build it easier way with splitters adding new items to a sushi belt.
00:20 Or if you are proficient at circuits, you can use them to balance your sushi.
00:25 It’s good to use this strategy with items which are need in small quantity.
00:29 Like resources need to craft a blue science.
00:31 However the best use for sushi is in your labs,
00:34 since you need to provide only one belt with all the science.
00:37 Whatever you do, just don’t sushi belt your furnaces since the…
This is a short Factorio tutorial or guide. You can find some useful tips for your Factorio speedrun and death world game. Advance topics like trains blueprints circuit network will be explained in a few seconds. I hope this series will work great as a trailer and review for Factorio. I will also try to keep it funny in a meme way.
#Factorio - Hry
One of these days, Trupen's gonna end it calling a biter a wanker.
Yes, the long awaited third kind of biter.
Or even worse, you don't hear or see anything about the end at all.
Why would I need sushi belts, when I have car belts?
why not both?
sushi car belts
Sushi car belts of spaghetti? 😋
train-only-beltless factory flashbacks
Just use a line of inserters as a 'belt'
Thing is, sushi belts work fine... until one of the things in it become backed up. This usually happened because you produced too little of something in the belt upstream, so it didn't get in, meaning that the whole process downstream became unbalanced. Then everything is backed up and you're sad.
Yes, but it is very easy to fix with circuits which will enable upstream belt only when sushi belt doesn't have provided item on it. It doesn't even need combinators, only basic wire.
@@dixaba By the time people figure out how to use circuits to make sushi belts works fine, they will be obsessed with throughput. Labs is the common place, but you get lower throughput once the labs are so fast.
@@rockshankar Chaos is always an option though, remember the diagonal smelting arrays and buses.
you can make loops and such, but really, the fact that you need a whole bunch of splitters and to ship unused inputs around makes it space and belt inefficient compared to traditional 1 item type per belt lane.
It's also way easier to grok traditional set-ups as working and tweak them for specific needs.
0:17 By using splitters in the right way, you can ensure any 'power of 2'-amount of belts get balanced evenly. Though that still has one downside: it has to be a power of 2: 2,4,8,etc.
"Don't sushi belt your furnaces"
The weak cannot comprehend the power a man with will can possess, so they banish even thinking about it forever.
My factory is already sushi, no need
I used a sushi belt once in my life and it was to feed the 28 different Science packs of Space Exploration into the labs. Because Requester Warehouses are lame. I still feel like that actually limited my throughput since the belt in question was rather small.
The other day I had a factory idea that is probably around 10% Genius and 90% pure insanity, and it was to built the entire factory alongside a single railtrack with a single continuous train that advances one wagon at a time once every half minute or so. No pipes, no belts, no bots, only direct insertion from and to the train. One of these days I will build it... when the world is ready for it. And I shall call it the Sushi Train.
We are not ready
We are ready
PLEASE
Oh gods, I want to try that sushi train idea! Connecting the train directly to the machines means every single car needs the entire sushi ratio'd and the fast machines have to stop when the train moves forward, but otherwise sounds awesome. My idea is to put buffer chests between the train and machines so there would always be materials for the machines to run at full speed and the train cars could be a bit more diverse in their contents.
@@xipheonj I've done this in my old dropped pyanodon run
Uroboros-like train (1loco+3wagons) * infinity. Head of the train bites it's own tail. 1-2sec inactivity to run onward.
Single rectangle railroad full of stations interleave each 4cars-length. Rounded corners lengths are approx 4cars arcs, too. One side of rectangle is full base length. The other side (width) - needs many tests. You should have at minimum 5 of 6 working inserters with the last wagon. Because when head of train arrives to station, the tail in three 90 degrees turns, and it's never arranged properly
All wagons initially with blocked inventory. Then you just unlock space for each needed resource.
Producing station - simply try to put product in each first wagon (or second, or third)
Consuming station - Answer is - Buffer wagon. No need filter inserters. If you have free space for resource in buffer wagon, this resource will be grabbed from train.
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+ It's funny to try
+ maybe it's okayish with many resources mods
- definitely it's not a silver bullet
- very limited throughput (5.5 working inserters per wagon per side)
- one station sometimes slows all train
- certainly you will want to parallelize transportation of iron/copper by another way
There was one video I saw where it combined city blocks with Sushi belts. Each block was surrounded by the Sushi belt, and had Splitters along the long faces to make sure they were balanced. Each City block alternated clockwise, counter-clockwise, clockwise, counter-clockwise, etc. Each Block would have one or more Splitters along one edge that preferred to take off the needed materials for that Block, and a Splitter that preferred to take the output from that Block. A circuit was used to make sure that the Block would only output if none of that item was present on the Sushi belt within a certain distance.
It 'worked', but sometimes you would find a White Science mixed in with the Iron Out output and watch it as it slowly got back over to the Science area
Oh my god
Some peoples really enjoy suffering.
BTW thats what my friends says when I tell them I spend hours optimising production in a game on my free time ...
It's beautiful.
Hey Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today
theoretically you can run an entire factory with only one very long belt
You mean a bus?
@@seno7904 sushi bus, now coming to your town
Actually, you don't need any belts at all, just inserters
Now make Sushi Pipe
So whos ready for some Sushi Spagheti belts?
I love the idea of sushi belts and I did a proof of concept to learn how they work, but I just never found a build where I wanted to use them, I kept forgetting about them. I should make a decorative sushi belt somewhere in my base to remind me to try it in my next build.
sushi belts are the closest thing to black magic in factorio
I don't play Factorio, but there are plenty of examples of sushi belts in my world in Satisfactory. Mostly on trucks or trains so you don't have to have one train car or truck & station for each item. In Satisfactory, to make sushi belts work properly you have to add overflow splitters (items get diverted when the priority output gets clogged) to get rid of extra items when something backs up. Simply put, you first sort the sushi belt onto organized belts, then place an overflow splitter on each output belt. Then just run the overflow lines into a resource sink (deletes the items from the belt). I don't know if things that allow this sort of system to work exist in Factorio, but I bet it's still required to keep sushi belts from clogging.
I play both games and the advantage of factorio is that the logic system allows you to stop the belt when one item is missing to avoid filling the belt with only one item and cloaging it. I hope they'll add something like that to satisfactory it would be incredible.
@@justeunfan3364 Yeah it would be cool. Even something like a part on a belt that only allows items through when provided power would be super cool.
Sushi belting furnaces is probably the best way to do furnaces
The only way to win Factorio is to not play.
no
That final mierda xd
Sounded more like "merde" to me
You know, you are making me used to watching those short videos everyday...
And when it ends i'll be pretty sad... (and it will end since there isn't thaaat much in factorio to make short videos like this, every day)
I had a 4 wide sushi belt in a ring around my whole factory with resources being added to it automatically when needed. Literally just now deconstructed the whole thing because of too much spaghetti and I ran out of space the branch off it.
Bro wants to melt Uranium ore... Elephants Foot, is it you?
mmm food belt
MF DOOM reference???
@@packediceisthebestminecraf9007 what
That merde at the end... Trupen predicted France losing!
Hi, can you please share a blueprint of 0:23 (or point where can I get that forbidden knowledge)) I'd like to understand how it works (I'm new to circuits and dumb)
Lab 👍
cam you do a video about mega bases and its performance in terms of UPS... effiecient designs and the 5800x3D
Spaghetti-sushi belts the best
I will now exclusively sushi belt furnaces
Wait, is it the spanish "mierde" or the french "merde"? The subs might be wrong.
The spanish "Mierda", you can see it with subtitles xD
its cool but its gonna suck when the belt is too filled up so your machines cant get materials fast enough
The spageti lords will be pleased
i prefer spaghetti over sushi
Yes
Why do I need sushi belts, when I can just use cargo wagons
I like my sushi cooked
Sushi spaghetti when?
need guide for sushi belts
А сам?
@@levi-Sand. делал, но только с помощью логики, а хочется с балансерами, так чтоб хоть 20 ресурсов на ленту класть
max two items on my belt plz & ty
I’m so sorry…
I suchi belt my furnaces already :D
I hate this, bring me more!
What is Merd... ? every time
Another "merde" ! As a French person, I'm legally(?) obliged to point out that you don't roll the "R" in "merde".
Thankfully it's actually "mierda", and I believe the Spanish are allowed rolling Rs. :)
@@tierelantijn Pretty sure you would be hard-pressed to find an "R" they aren't rolling instead ! 🤣
But well, with his accent, it's possible it's a mixte of both French and Spanish really.
After spaghetti belt, spaghetti swearing !
Sushi supremacy
since i strated watching trupen, i was wondering, if he trully doesn't speak russian?
idk the problem is that space is essentially infinite and belts are cheap so why be cheap?
I know that sushi are pretty messy belts
I know that spaghetti are really good
I know one tiny fish is gonna go to space
That's not the shape of my cheese...
(sing to the "Shape of my heart" melody)
Do you guys have belts?!?!
I cant, because of OCD reasons
omfg that's such a good idea! I hate it!
I would love to have a sushi belt, but im not that smart to do so, and i would rather have a spaghetti
yummy
yes don't put sushi in a furnace
Too late…
But I like it
was this advice or just a way to hurt me
oof
I prefer Spaghetti belt.
Circuitos lógicos...😢
its not april 1st.. this advice will ruin peoples lives
Yes, it will.
This is why I haven't uploaded it at April's 1st :)
@@Trupen hahahaha, i need to do a full sushi factory now
No
i barely understand what u say in the video then u say merda, fin
I hate sushi belts! The amount of input has to be lower than the output or else the whole thing gets clogged up!