Spectacular. Thanks for the details on purchase and getting to the US. Great upgrade and sporty boat for your type of explorations. Great video too, I think your voice would have been nice for the narration. Rick
This is a great boat - exactly what I’ve been chasing after in most ways. This overview highlights how much more complex the rigging is than the Siren 17 don’t you think? Thinking about sailing and maintaining this boat feels so much more involved than my siren.
It's a more technical boat and yes, a few more lines to run.... It's also a much bigger boat but I t ink it only takes me 15 minutes more to rig it. At the end of the day, it doesn't make a big difference.
@@siren17 that's nice to hear. Like anything once you are used to it it probably feels normal. I learned a lot about my Siren from you - thank you for that. I'll probably learn a lot about this newer class of boat from you and one day maybe I'll build or buy one. I have a few more season with my Siren regardless.
Really nice little boat, I don't think I've seen many other trailer sailers this nicely setup. For a weekender I've seen many older pocket cruisers that look a little more comfortable but nothing this modern or spacious, and certainly nothing that would perform like this one. Thanks for the tour!
Thank you for the great review. The Flow 19 looks to be an ideal pocket cruiser and you seem to have made some quality modifications. For a 19' boat there seems to be an ideal mix of space and performance in an easily handled package. I wonder if I can get building plans as of course the Flow 19 is not available down here in New Zealand at the bottom of the world.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching. Sadly, neither a kit nor plans are available for the Flow 19. Rudders and swing keel are molded laminate vacuum bagged composites and the coach roof is assembled from panels of sandwiched composite. The company has a smaller daysailer version, the Aloes 18, available as plans or kit. See the links in the video description. Cheers.
What a great video! Finally, someone has produced an in depth look at the Flow 19. Can I presume that the head consists of a plastic bucket? Would it be possible to outfit the boat with a composting toilet? And could you set up a system to heat up food down below, while underway?
Hello Mark and thanks for watching! Yes, we use the small boat head system from Duckworks (a more glamorous description of the plastic bucket....) with wag bags (www.duckworks.com) . You could fit a portable composting toilet and built a full galley with sink and stove over one of the bunks. As you can see in the video the cabin is quite large for this size boat. That said, it's still a fairly small craft and I could not imagine cook under way but you could install a Jetboil on a gimbal to the bulk head and heat water or re-heat meals ready to eat :)
@@siren17 thanks for the quick reply! I really appreciate the info as too often people overlook discussing basic sanitation issues! The Flow 19 seems to be one of the best boats of its class. You seem to be having a ton of fun with it! Lots of bang for your buck!
The sail cloth is called ZZ Black Aramid Laminate from Deutch sail cloth maker Contender. We had our sails made from two different sail lofts, one in Canada, the other in France. Here is the link to the sail cloth specs. contendersailcloth.com/en/7p/zz-black-aramid-laminates.aspx
@@siren17 Maybe, if you stay in marinas or only beach the boat. My 16ft Senior had an anchor roller, anchor chain will make light work of those topsides in any kind of chop, but maybe you only sail in perfect conditions? Nice boat otherwise.
I think base sail away price for the Flow 19 is around 55K Euros. Yes, a porta potty fits well inside the cabin and can be stowed under the double berth extension.
Buy Find a used one or get a new one built in France, put it on a trailer and ship it RoRo (roll on - roll off) to the North America like a car. Cargo freight from Antwerpen to Baltimore/NY is 3 to 4k with broker and import tax fees. Then register it in Colorado (no sales taxes) and get Maine tags for the trailer.
@@bbonora best is to join the Facebook group “Fans of Atelier Interface Sailboats” and ask if anyone is for sale. 6 were made, #7 is under construction. I have #5.
I have a new channel sv Gemstar.I have an new channel as i have another boat. I bought on jan3rd and u will be doing an vlog l walk through. The boat is an Colombia 27. I have rejoined your channel. you do make some of the nicer vlogs. Gerard on SV Gemstar.
I haven’t seen a lot of sub 20 that well built and equipped. We all think of Catalina 22 but this is next level.
Easier to trailer and launch than a Catalina 22 because of its fully retractable keel. But less ballast weight so, a bit more tender.
I want one 20 years ago.
@@herbertocobock9436 never say never...
Spectacular. Thanks for the details on purchase and getting to the US. Great upgrade and sporty boat for your type of explorations. Great video too, I think your voice would have been nice for the narration. Rick
Thanks for watching. Still have to make that version with my real French accentuated voice :)….
A lot of thought went into the design of this beautiful little boat.. Well done!
Magnific boat. I would love to sail one. Great design, perfect for someone who wants to sail without the hurdles of big boats.
This is a great boat - exactly what I’ve been chasing after in most ways. This overview highlights how much more complex the rigging is than the Siren 17 don’t you think? Thinking about sailing and maintaining this boat feels so much more involved than my siren.
It's a more technical boat and yes, a few more lines to run.... It's also a much bigger boat but I t ink it only takes me 15 minutes more to rig it. At the end of the day, it doesn't make a big difference.
@@siren17 that's nice to hear. Like anything once you are used to it it probably feels normal. I learned a lot about my Siren from you - thank you for that. I'll probably learn a lot about this newer class of boat from you and one day maybe I'll build or buy one. I have a few more season with my Siren regardless.
Really nice little boat, I don't think I've seen many other trailer sailers this nicely setup. For a weekender I've seen many older pocket cruisers that look a little more comfortable but nothing this modern or spacious, and certainly nothing that would perform like this one. Thanks for the tour!
Thanks for watching. Glad you like the boat.
Thank you for the great review. The Flow 19 looks to be an ideal pocket cruiser and you seem to have made some quality modifications. For a 19' boat there seems to be an ideal mix of space and performance in an easily handled package. I wonder if I can get building plans as of course the Flow 19 is not available down here in New Zealand at the bottom of the world.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching. Sadly, neither a kit nor plans are available for the Flow 19. Rudders and swing keel are molded laminate vacuum bagged composites and the coach roof is assembled from panels of sandwiched composite. The company has a smaller daysailer version, the Aloes 18, available as plans or kit. See the links in the video description. Cheers.
This is the boat for me. Please sell it in the US.
What a great video! Finally, someone has produced an in depth look at the Flow 19. Can I presume that the head consists of a plastic bucket? Would it be possible to outfit the boat with a composting toilet? And could you set up a system to heat up food down below, while underway?
Hello Mark and thanks for watching! Yes, we use the small boat head system from Duckworks (a more glamorous description of the plastic bucket....) with wag bags (www.duckworks.com) . You could fit a portable composting toilet and built a full galley with sink and stove over one of the bunks. As you can see in the video the cabin is quite large for this size boat. That said, it's still a fairly small craft and I could not imagine cook under way but you could install a Jetboil on a gimbal to the bulk head and heat water or re-heat meals ready to eat :)
@@siren17 thanks for the quick reply! I really appreciate the info as too often people overlook discussing basic sanitation issues! The Flow 19 seems to be one of the best boats of its class. You seem to be having a ton of fun with it! Lots of bang for your buck!
Rad dude.
Isn’t that a 12:1 vang, 6:1 x 2:1 (the part through the low friction ring on the boom)?
Yes indeed. Thanks for the correction.
I really like your mainsail, what is the brand where did you guys order it? I see you have used it on syren and now on your new flow sailboats ?
The sail cloth is called ZZ Black Aramid Laminate from Deutch sail cloth maker Contender. We had our sails made from two different sail lofts, one in Canada, the other in France. Here is the link to the sail cloth specs.
contendersailcloth.com/en/7p/zz-black-aramid-laminates.aspx
Anchor locker, but no bow roller. All that engineering and skimp on an important item. I still like the old Corsaire.
You don't need a bow roller on a 19 footer. It's still a small craft, you want to keep them simple and nimble!
@@siren17 Maybe, if you stay in marinas or only beach the boat. My 16ft Senior had an anchor roller, anchor chain will make light work of those topsides in any kind of chop, but maybe you only sail in perfect conditions? Nice boat otherwise.
What's is expected cost? And can you install a portable head?
I think base sail away price for the Flow 19 is around 55K Euros. Yes, a porta potty fits well inside the cabin and can be stowed under the double berth extension.
How do you get one of these in North America?
Buy
Find a used one or get a new one built in France, put it on a trailer and ship it RoRo (roll on - roll off) to the North America like a car. Cargo freight from Antwerpen to Baltimore/NY is 3 to 4k with broker and import tax fees. Then register it in Colorado (no sales taxes) and get Maine tags for the trailer.
@@siren17 which sites do you look on to find a used one? How many have been made?
@@bbonora best is to join the Facebook group “Fans of Atelier Interface Sailboats” and ask if anyone is for sale. 6 were made, #7 is under construction. I have #5.
@@bbonora Facebook group is m.facebook.com/groups/348757023249321/?ref=share
I have a new channel sv Gemstar.I have an new channel as i have another boat. I bought
on jan3rd and u will be
doing an vlog l
walk through. The boat is an Colombia 27.
I have rejoined your channel. you do make some of the nicer vlogs.
Gerard on
SV Gemstar.