Star Wars: Unlimited is Better Than I Thought - TCG Review
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- I played Star Wars: Unlimited this weekend, and it was way more fun than I was expecting.
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I went to a prelease over the weekend and had a great time. I'm actaully surprised to hear criticism of the art, specifically that it's not consistent. Maybe it's because I've been playing magic for years, but I like FFG used a variety of artists for the cards. Lack of consistency in art between different cards was never even something I thought of as a negative. But again, maybe it's because MTG has been doing that since the beginning, so I'm used to seeing different takes on the same characters.
About half of the time someone tells me they don't like Star Wars: Unlimited, and they are someone who likes tcg's in general, the art gets mentioned. The lack of consistency feels stronger for me here because its not the difference between regular and alternate arts, or from set to set. The characters just don't look like they are all coming from the same game to me. Even the vehicles vary in style quite a bit.
Not that it is going to stop me from playing :) For what it is worth, I'm not a huge fan of other cards games when they vary their card art styles too much either. Magic's different showcase style per set makes me less excited about opening Magic.
@@mastersetmadness fair enough. I agree with you about MTG's showcase styles lately. Most of them are very busy, and are so different in style that they are distracting (to me). But, the character art itself still varies wildly even on the regular cards. I like that. Comparing basic card to basic card, I'm curious as to why people don't like the variety of art in SWU, but don't mind it in MTG. Wizards using dozens (if not hundreds) of different artists over the years for the main art for the cards. Some of them look very different. There really isn't a cohesive style within standard MTG cards either.
But like you, the art isn't going to convince me or stop me to play this game. It was just so fun, and I'm excited to see so many people generally responding well to the gameplay experience. The community has been great as well, so far. I hope this is finally a long term hit for FFG. Odds are against that based on their track record, hopefully 3rd time is the charm!
I think it's the art consistency. Put the two Han solos next to each other, they do t even feel like the same game. And the varying quality within the style they went for, look at "I am your father" and derpy chewy
@@theatom82 Honestly, I haven't paid too much attention to specific cards in the last 4-5 sets for Magic. Still, I'm not sure I've seen the same amount of variation within a single Magic set on the standard versions that I see in SWU.
Here's to 3rd times a charm!
@@JKSSubstandard I think it probably just comes down to taste. In that particular example, I definitely prefer the art on Chewy. The art on "I am your father" is fine for a card game, but it's one of the more boring examples, in my opinion (that's key, because art is subjective). But I'm probably also a little biased in that example as I'm a long-time comic reader as well (well, recently lapsed), and Landini's art is what ultimately made me drop the Vader book he worked on. He's obviously talented, but aesthetically his art doesn't appeal to me. It has been a general trend in comics over the last 10-15 years where they've moved toward a more simplistic style of line art with depth added primarly in the coloring stage, with the final product siting just short of photo realism. Of course, the one character who probably is justfied looking stiff is Vader, but it was pretty consistently that way in the comics, regardless of character.
But anyway, about SWU, I'm just probably in the minority. As much as I don't like Landini's art in comics, I don't mind it on the card, and the variation from card to card is refreshing to me. I never once felt like the cards don't belong in the same game because of that variance. But I can see how others might be put off by it. Thankfully, the game is good enough to keep us all engaged and having fun!
Cheers!
I normally play MtG and Flesh and Blood (and occasionally Yugioh on Master Duel). I heard about this game and saw there was a prerelease going on locally over the last weekend. Decided to check it out and had a blast!
I actually do like the comic book style of the card art, and the game was pretty easy to translate for the most part from my previous tcg experience. Not sure how into it I’ll get, but I could definitely see myself building some casual decks for myself and my brother for some kitchen table play
Often the best play is at the kitchen table. Glad you enjoyed your prerelease!
This game is fun I like the gameplay a lot. Pre release was a blast. Thanks for the video, can't wait for my box break on your channel keep up the good work.
Thanks for the order! I'll be live-streaming tomorrow night at 8pm CT.
Super cool !
I do agree as a star wars fan looking at the images online I was like man this art does not do anything for me. I bought a prerelease kit and the art is growing on me and the pack opening experience with the hyperspaces does feel special. I haven't gotten to play any yet but if my store starts events i might have to try this.
I loved star wars sooo freakin much not so much anymore. I am excited about this game definitely giving it a chance
Played it at a pre release in the city and it was a lot of fun. Games are snappy and aren’t drawn out. I personally like the artwork, there’s definitely more care in some cards than others but not every card needs to look fantastic imo.
I also enjoy how quick the games can go!
I've gotten into your videos recently and you have inspired me to begin collecting/playing FAB. I just bought a case of the uprising set because I think collecting the marvel dragons would be really cool. I opened up my fifth pack and saw that one of the cards had an orange diamond on it. I was slightly disapointed to see that it was not a marvel but to my suprise, I realized it was a fabled. I am thrilled beyond belief, I just hope I didn't use all of my luck on a single card that I didn't initially want. I don't intend to gloat or brag about this, I just thought it would be neat to share an experience of mine that I will look back on fondly as I grow older.
Congrats on your hit! The first fabled card you find is extra fun to open and something you'll remember.
I played the Star Wars CCG from the 90s and loved it. Always have fond memories of it. Was excited to see Star Wars Destiny. Immediately got my son into it. Went to Drafts and competitive play. We were super sad when it was cancelled. Looking at the draft aspect of Unlimited it appears they are learning from past mistakes. I am cautiously optimistic. I would love to see it become a long term game.
Nice review! If i had a bunch of friends excited about it, I would give it a try. My other compalint (besides FFG's track record) is that there are no novel mechanic to this game. It just rehashes, admittidly good, mechanics from previous "better mtg" games. For me it doesn't scratch any itches that more popular games don't already.
I am glad other people are enjoying it though! I love the Star Wars universe.
Makes sense. For me it's been one of the easier TCG's to get some friends to try because it's Star Wars.
it is still only the first set so they’re starting by building up the feel of the game, more will get added as they go on
Tbh as a teen the majority of my early childhood were Pokémon cards and if they don't bring out one of these collector books for star wars soon enough I'll make one myself
Does anyone know the sleeves he is using? They look nice and I might want to pick them up.
These are Ultimate Guard - Matte Supreme. They are older sleeves I bought when a store was going liquidating them. I hadn't used them in a awhile, but really liked them on the Star Wars cards.
I really enjoy the game and will most definitely be playing and collecting it. however I 100% agree on the art. there is a complete lack of continuity within the art. The hyperspaces are really awesome though.
I really, really wanted to play this but I live in Japan and had contacted Fantasty Flight to ask if Japan was part of the global release. Sadly they informed me that it was not. I have no one to play with here so I don't plan on importing product myself as that would be too costly...really sad as I love Star Wars so much and the game looks like a lot of fun.
Sorry that it isn't releasing there. Importing is rough. Flesh and Blood is launching there though in a couple of months, and it's a great tcg if you haven't tried it already.
@@mastersetmadness yeah it’s a fun game but Star Wars is special to me.
I will disagree on the art. I don’t mind the cartoonish aspect, as I don’t need to have grimdark super serious all the time, I want the art to at one glance be the character I expect it to be and i think we get that so far. What I don’t want is like what we have in Magic where now the art has become this generic mess that lacks all creativity so it “looks like it is from the same game” it makes artists have to make very boring pieces if you don’t let them spread their wings and have to meet very strict requirements. But that is just my opinion.
Thanks for sharing! I 100% agree that we don't need grim, dark, super serious vibes all the time. It's one of the reasons I'm excited for Altered.
Star Wars is a game about killing a lot of people though, so there has to be some darkness in it.
I think there can be balance between those two ideas you mentioned. Creativity often comes out best when there are limits (which SWU clearly has many limits already built into their art direction). I don't see why "looks like it's from the same game" would have to automatically mean "generic."
If anything, for me the more cartoonish art is, the more generic it feels. It's all subjective though.
Magic's biggest problem is that there is just too much going on, that where generic things start to happen.
I love the different styles ❤ can’t wait to battle it out 😊
It’s honestly better than expected
What a heartwarming channel! I hope that this game takes off. The gameplay is stellar. I like it better than magic to be honest.
Because the last star wars they made died 😢. We spent a lot of $$$$$$
😞
I can totally understand the cards in person being better than online. It is better than I thought, but that is the difference between a 9 and a 10 , which is all around good looking in long or short distance. I think people will give it a chance if they knew it was Fantasy Flight (the makers of X-wing miniature game) that was making it. If it was Called Star Wars Fantasy Flight it would have been premium instead of "unlimited" which gives off a low tier recon feel. This is the 4th Star Wars TCG after all.
Ideally they should have just made a TCG base off the ships, and planetside units on 2 modes. I would have bought that, cause i don't always have time to bring out the miniatures.
I played a ton of X-wing back when it came out. The FFG name makes some people excited and others not.
Like look at WTR and ARC there are janky artworks there, I don't think that's something that should hold you off. I really like the initiative mechanic, it's just a very cool twist that adds a lot of character like Death's Door does in Sorcery.
Will give this a shot at some point but I'm not rushing, it seems rather derivative again idk I want something fresh in my card games there are too many to just do the same stuff over and over again. FAB is still the freshest and tightest experience around and Altered is next it seems.
Last year I was very excited for SWU as all the mediocre looking cards and the uninteresting IP seemed like they were made for the perfect play experience without any need of bling, and that probably checks out since FFG make great games but my motivation has taken a hard hit after finding another great game that does exceptionally well what I hoped I'd find in this one.
Definitely still loving FAB here. It's hard to keep up with multiple TCG's as they can all take up a lot of bandwidth. I was more excited for Altered than SWU, but have been pleasantly surprised by this one.
@@mastersetmadnesssounds good if it can surprise!
Time will tell if fantasy flight has changed. If the game hasn't been abandoned in 3 years, then I will give it a shot!
Nothing wrong with waiting :)
Is it only set in galactic civil war or is there clone wars too?
Everything in this set is geared around the start of the Rebellion. Galactic Civil War will be in upcoming sets.
clone wars will be later sets
If the art is the only complaint the game will succeed!!!!!
Only one for me so far!
My youngling and I gave it a whirl last night ... we both loved it. I was inclined to because I'm both a Star Wars and TCG degenerate. He said he liked it better than Lorcana. It isnt quite FAB gameplay for me, BUT I could see it growing on me with its "simple but strategic" style.
I looooooved Destiny, too. I think the dice killed that more than anything, though. I LOVED that mechanic, but I think cost made it silly.
I missed out on Destiny, but dice in packs seems difficult to make work.
As a Star Wars and TCG fan, its hard to pass up!
CCGs and TCGs, even trading cards had different artists and styles. I believe it makes it look great. The game mechanic are fun. I am a card collector and I finally got my gf playing games. Sometimes a dead game becomes f a lot of fun.
I really want to give this game a chance but the artwork is a huge miss for me. Going to a prerelease this week we'll see if I change my mind when I get my hands on it.
Hope you enjoy it!
Weird, you describe it so well it's almost as if I can actually picture that kid running around with a lightsaber.
To me it's too similar to altered and altered is just superior
I am very excited for Altered.
When it comes to the art, I actually prefer when a game has different styles of art.
Love the art of Destiny, Unlimited on the other hand has an unpleasing artwork, unfortunatelly.
Unfortunately, Destiny is a better game IMO. Dice add a lot of fun and strategy based on odds. Personally I don't like having to dedicate cards as resources. The art was way better. I wish they had put this effort into reviving an already awesome game.
I never played Destiny, but it looked like fun.
Ngl, I may stop playing as I see more sequel trilogy cards in the game.
Fair take, they put a lot of the best stuff in the first set 😛 But I'm definitely excited to play Darth Maul and Clone Wars.
@@mastersetmadness For sure 👍 clone wars will be great! Would love to see tactical droids and a General Grievous as a leader!
Honestly, would love to try it but im super wary against games that my stores don't actually sell in my city.
Makes sense. While I understand some stores hesitance towards this game, it seems like the risk was pretty low for more game stores to order a small amount of product just because of how strong the IP is. Sorry to hear none in your area got any.
Hopefully they’ll pick it up. My store regrets it now after seeing the turnout from other stores in the area l.
It’s just hearthstone tho
Hearthstone has lightsabers?
It has way more depth than hearthstone
Hearthstone is like 90% of card games not sure that’s an argument you look at magic and say but it’s a card game so it’s like hearthstone
Hearthstone is ok. I played some Holo table and I liked this game.
Can’t Lorcana just print Star Wars cards? How does this TCG survive?
Disney makes more money having two card games pay it royalties, and most Star Wars fans don't want Darth Vader vs. Mickey Mouse.
That and I'm sure Lorcana doesn't have the rights for the Star Wars IP.
Also lorcana works with songs and ink which doesnt fit for sw or marvel, also also if Disney ever sells those IPs they aren't in trouble.
They already out of cards. So they were short
Played a pre-release, went undefeated, but not interested in playing anymore. No combat tricks/counters and the idiotic uniqueness rules are enough to keep me away.
I very much dislike the art and are not really a fan of Star Wars, so the aesthetic aspect of the game has almost zero draw for me. When I tried I also found the pace and feel to be slow and awkward, wtih the whole back and forth between every single action you take.
What I did like was the concept of the two fronts of ground and space, that opens up both some thematic and gameplay avenues for the game.
But overall this game is a miss for me.
But the downpart of this game is Darth vader is the top S tier leader adlukeskywalker a goodA tier, most of the availble leaders right now are way weaker than these two and seeing vader and luke come in the starter kit you are pretty much one and done and the entire collecting part of this game is pointless.
Not sure how much you’ve played but Krennic and Sabine are ridiculously good and I’d argue better than Vader I’m in the minority though because I also feel luke is better than Vader because shields are op
First! It's Star Wars.. it's done to death, and it's hard to see beyond the gigantic expanded area in which it has been spread thin.
Second! While I like the design of the systems and gameplay, they offer little to help with the "first" point. This is NOT Decipher's Lord of the Rings TCG game, I'll tell you that much! It's also like a modern excerpt of what the Star Wars CCG (Decipher) was back in the day.. and doesn't even come close to being as cool or mind-expanding.
But more importantly! These kind of games don't make it into my country, and it they did.. there are virtually NO LGSs around here. If there are, they run Magic, PKMN and (possibly) YUGIOH.
Me and a friend each buying a deck to "try" is a waste of time and money (cannot expand the experience nor the card-pool). Unless there's a reason to invest.. and invest yourself in it, MANY already existing games we own will accomplish as much, if not more.
Feels like putting out a TCG in recent days.. is nothing but an untimely waste of time and money.
Decipher LOTR is probably me favorite TCG. Nothing lasts forever.
Playing a game is only a waste of time if you don't enjoy playing games.
My reason not to play this in 1 word : Destiny
Game looks really fun. Art is terrible.
Some of the art looks AI generated almost
how about this the WORST art ever on a STAR WARS CCG
Game not going to last sorry.
As long as FFG doesn’t ruin it, that’s completely untrue. Our league numbers are through the roof at my LGS. Card prices are through the roof and still increasing. The next two sets are already planned and there is a lot of excitement for this product.
The only way this game fails is if FFG lets it fail.
I've been extremely disappointed with this game. It doesn't feel like a game of strategy. It feels like a race to see who can get the biggest things out on the field and once that happens the game is over. The Star Wars license doesn't seem to have anything to do with the game, either, it's just pictures on cardboard, and while some of the art is good, some is shockingly bad. It's just not a pretty game to look at, much less collect, and I haven't found it fun to play. I tried a wide variety of decks and deck building and it always came out the same way: a race to board value and never mind any strategy you had in mind because there's no room for it in the frantic pace of the game.
For you, does it feel less strategic than Magic? Most of the TCG's I've played are some variation on a race to get the biggest things out or to stop your opponent from being able to play those powerful cards. The strategy is in how to be faster, or more powerful than your opponent. I'll have to play more to see if I agree with your take.
The games do play quickly though.
My favorite TCG for collecting is Flesh and Blood, the art is stunning.
Yeah I wanted to give this game a shot to play as a kitchen table game, but I’m afraid I have to agree. I just felt like I was playing lorcana or Pokemon.
This game is the nutz guys. I’ve got 5 buddies at my LGS already playing and liking the Twin Suns multiplayer format better than magic. Once one person is defeated you finish the turn and the games over. You don’t set around for an hour waiting to play again. And you get to play 2 leaders(commanders)!!!! This is just the first set, give it time!!!! And magic prereleases are always a race!!!!
@@capthefirstavenger I haven't played Lorcana, but it definitely didn't feel like Pokemon to me - though it's been many years since I played that 🙃
@@user-by1dq3dz6g Agreed, prereleases are straight up races usually. I guess I'm a bit stuck on the idea though of a game being a race meaning it is not strategic. I don't see how the element of racing being involved means there is no or little strategy.
And I couldnt care less. Im sorry, but to me SW is just a bad fairy tale set in space. But I understand, other people got socialized with it so it will always have its fans.
Why’d you click on the video then? 😂
@@DarthStalkerslol, exactly
Nerds get your light sabers out and pop this guy with a attack + 3 with light saber. You sit this is not a fairy tale, that's for you Disney guy, this is a epic battle between good and bad. I cast you into the pit of disparity.
@@DarthStalkers that is always confusing to me as well. Like why click on the video if you knew going in you had zero chance of being interested in it lol. And then to feel the need to also leave a comment is like🤯
The story telling for the sequel trilogy was god awful. Those movies damage the overall brand.